I never thought this would happen but seems there is a bit of interest from ppl over the 380.

1. A guy a few weeks ago at Bunnings on the northside Brisbane gave the car a big ogle and when I went to Supercheap down the road the same guy was there, came over and said how good the car looked.

2. Occassionally I've planted the throttle in light traffic which makes a bit of a racket. When I have, almost instantly I've had a Commodore nosing around close behind me, to the side and in front just giving the car a big eyeover. Of course they want to have a run which I ignore. The laughable thing is they have been Commodes (3 times) never Fords or any other model. If you are passing these types in the right lane on the hwy they always speed up. If it's a Ford they never seem to, just do their own thing.

Anyone else's experiences?

I reckon its those wheels that are grabbing everyones attention!! Regarding Commodores, I've had one VY appear pretty keen to race me away from the lights but with 2 kids in the car & peak hour traffic, I thought it wasnt the smartest thing to do. Perhaps the reason it always appears to be Commodores that want to have a run is because there seem to be more midly done up holdens (particularly older ones like VS, VT etc) than Falcons. Other than XR6's etc, you dont see that many done up Falcons compared to Commodores.

Us ford drivers are underdogs, we only do what is necessary......



Smoking a 380 isn't one of them :bowrofl:

Theres a gold series 2 (I think) VRX parked outside my house a few times a week on chrome 24 spoke (at a guess) 19's. It looks sensational. Like the TL they were very much ahead of their time and look better on the road now than when they were first new out. Mitsubishi timed things very poorly in that respect lol

I'm after that sort of wheel to replace my stock (gutter gouged) GT rims on my 2006 VRX. Tyres are due for replacement and it would be good to both at once. If you get a chance can you snap a pic? I am one who is a sucker for that type of wheel. Whilst the GT rims are OK for stock I want something that is a bit different. If you can supply a shot that would be excellent. Cheers...

Zarbs

I'm after that sort of wheel to replace my stock (gutter gouged) GT rims on my 2006 VRX. Tyres are due for replacement and it would be good to both at once. If you get a chance can you snap a pic? I am one who is a sucker for that type of wheel. Whilst the GT rims are OK for stock I want something that is a bit different. If you can supply a shot that would be excellent. Cheers...

Zarbs

Get some pics of your car and a few rims you like and put them up in the photoshop section if you want an idea of what they'd look like.

I can defiantly say that my 380 turns heads, which I like but I am concerned about the reason. I would most defiantly have to be the "P Plates" which pisses me off!!!

It's like if your 18-21 you can't have a nice car and if you do your mummy or daddy bought it for you or its their ride!! Come on !!!

I hate to break to those people but their are some young people with good jobs and GREAT taste in vehicles!!

sorry for the rant but it gets on my nerves!! oh and to the ford boys I have 3x BA XR6's smoked and unknown number of commodores VT are common thowe. Never underestimate the sleeping 380 gents we will get you!!

Stock for stock the 380 \ magnas will smoke any V6 commodores apart from the SV6 which is still a bit slow off the mark.

Whats funny is I saw a doof doof V8 commo pull up at the lights on the far left lane thinking he could get ahead of everyone once the light goes green, but the Ford Territory Turbo with bling rims smoked it from the lights. :bowrofl: Naturally the commo would have none of it and tried to catch up and overtook the 4WD after it had braked. lol

Stock for stock the 380 \ magnas will smoke any V6 commodores apart from the SV6 which is still a bit slow off the mark.

With the usual mods even the SV6 is slower.

I had a run when my car was absolutely stock with a VZ Calais (190KW) from about 40 to hwy speeds onto the hwy and it only just managed to pull ahead.

With the mods most 380 ppl have, the SV6 (VZ 190kw, VE 195kw) is fair game

The Big thing most people think about is "KW" figures and yes they are important, but why do people always forget about th most important stat and that is "POWER 2 WEIGHT RATIO" to the best of my knowledge the only other car to match (lest I say beat the 380 is the toyota).

People need to realise that more "KW" at the flywheel doesn't all ways mean you'll be faster than the other guy.

A point I love to prove!

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Couple of pics of my old 380 on 20s. Used to turn quite a few heads and attracted many comments, all of which were positive.

Kinda miss the car in a very weird sort of way......

Nah, not really.:bowrofl:

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Couple of pics of my old 380 on 20s. Used to turn quite a few heads and attracted many comments, all of which were positive.

Kinda miss the car in a very weird sort of way......

Nah, not really.:bowrofl:
While we are on the subject of cars attracting attention, how's the Clubsport going??? Got the OTR yet?

My 380 has turned heads; not everyday and everywhere I drive, but occasionally. And that's without flashy wheels (just the stock 16s) - though exhaust should have a nice note to it (not that I've heard it from the outside yet). Perhaps also because car is black (and clean most of the time).
I imagine any 380 that is slightly different to the norm is a standout in itself, as 99% of the ones you see (certainly the ones I see) are stock standard. I certainly turn to see a passing one if it has different and/or bigger rims fitted.

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Couple of pics of my old 380 on 20s. Used to turn quite a few heads and attracted many comments, all of which were positive.



They looked great mate. Really matched the colour well.

Im sorry but if your proud of beating a VT commodore you need to race faster cars.
(Dont drag on the roads though :D)
VY still has the same crap motor thats in the VT's too so either of them are nothing.
and a BA XR8 is just a heavier BA XT
again, race faster cars

I would definatly look twice is i saw that Blue 380, but yeah, i dont really look at 380's, all that i've seen are pretty bland. we need some heavily modified ones...

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VZ still has the same crap motor thats in the VT's too so either of them are nothing.


Oh good god Tuffy... The VZ has the Alloytec 3.6 twin cam V6 as opposed to the VY Ecotec 3.8 pushrod engine... :redface:

Oh good god Tuffy... The VZ has the Alloytec 3.6 twin cam V6 as opposed to the VY Ecotec pushrod engine... :redface:
My mistake i meant to type VY....
I KNEW THAT!!

']My mistake i meant to type VY....
I KNEW THAT!!
lol Sure!

pffft, Alloytec engine is nothing special anyway, hates revving and has no guts low down either. My dad has the SV6 VZ and it's no way near as sharp as the magna. New VE V6 is no different either, and that was an SV as well...

here's a joke, i remember going up against a mate on the drag strip, I was in my Barina SRi and he was in a VY S Supercharged. What a POS! Couldnt even gain ground on the barina :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

pffft, Alloytec engine is nothing special anyway, hates revving and has no guts low down either. My dad has the SV6 VZ and it's no way near as sharp as the magna. New VE V6 is no different either, and that was an SV as well...
Thats odd that you find the Alloytec a non revver... The SV6 revs out to 6800 rpm from memory and produces most of its thrust after 3500... As you said they are a bit soft below that which makes them feel doughy off the line. but, they sound woeful when you are giving them a rev. Like nannas Janome sewing machine.

Speaking of turning heads, most of my mates make comments like "you got a flash car - must get paid heaps" after seeing it for the first time. Then I just burst their bubble and my ego by telling them it's a poor man's HOSV/FPV (dunno why - must have a superiority complex or sumthin'). Black cars seem very executive I guess, and the stock 17s with low profile spoilers aren't too shabby. Maybe it has something to do with the way the 380s never really got advertised much so many people don't recognise it and mistake it for an american muscle?

Now there's this electric blue 380 I've seen around the traps and the colour makes me turn my head to perv at it too!

Thats odd that you find the Alloytec a non revver... The SV6 revs out to 6800 rpm from memory and produces most of its thrust after 3500... As you said they are a bit soft below that which makes them feel doughy off the line. but, they sound woeful when you are giving them a rev. Like nannas Janome sewing machine.


thats the thing, 6800rpm and it never actually feels like it wants to go there! approaching 5000 and this tinny pain in the ass sound starts rattling through the cabin. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, CHANGE GEAR!!! Would be suited with a nice GT35 Turbo

Thats odd that you find the Alloytec a non revver... The SV6 revs out to 6800 rpm from memory and produces most of its thrust after 3500... As you said they are a bit soft below that which makes them feel doughy off the line. but, they sound woeful when you are giving them a rev. Like nannas Janome sewing machine.


I tested a Man VZ SV6 with I was looking for a new car again, got the TL in the end but the engine in the VZ was gutless untell mid range and at top end sounded like it was straining like all ****a and to top it off it had no response, somethine all manual magna owners love to death.

Oh stock for stock at the drags, My TL vrx 14.8's, SV6's 15.0's and up. Same story on the street, but I have an uncanny abaility to drive my car, Type40 also has that abaility :D

I think the problem with the 3.6/3.8 is the head gear is an adaption for more power and not designed from bottom up for overhead cam heads. I had this discussion with the head mechanic at Nundah Mitsu. The problem is the cam belt drive system is inefficient and prone to long term wear - why it doesn't like revving.

Correct me Type40 if you know more :P

While we are on the subject of cars attracting attention, how's the Clubsport going??? Got the OTR yet?

The Clubsport is going great, thanks for asking mate. Now it does definitely turn heads. Gave it a nice going over with a claybar this morning followed by a coating of Meguires Techwax, best mirror finish I have ever seen.

OTR, Duel 2 1/2 in exhaust and a tune booked in for 3 weeks time :D

The Clubsport is going great, thanks for asking mate. Now it does definitely turn heads. Gave it a nice going over with a claybar this morning followed by a coating of Meguires Techwax, best mirror finish I have ever seen.

OTR, Duel 2 1/2 in exhaust and a tune booked in for 3 weeks time :D
I'm very glad (and envious) that your loving your car!!!! I realise this is a Mitsubishi forum but perhaps you can keep us posted re gains after your mods.

By the way, whats a claybar?

I think the problem with the 3.6/3.8 is the head gear is an adaption for more power and not designed from bottom up for overhead cam heads. I had this discussion with the head mechanic at Nundah Mitsu. The problem is the cam belt drive system is inefficient and prone to long term wear - why it doesn't like revving.

Correct me Type40 if you know more :P


I thought the alloytec had a timing chain rather than a belt ?

I thought the alloytec had a timing chain rather than a belt ?

Yeah, good pickup.

i did some research -


The Alloytec V6 engines operate with advanced double overhead camshafts and four valves per cylinder. A combination of high feature technologies allows them to extract more power from less fuel, with emissions levels well within the latest Euro 2 standard.

Electronically controlled and hydraulically actuated, continuously variable cam phasing brings outstanding camshaft operational flexibility, permitting variability of valve timing to maximise performance, fuel economy and emissions control. For increased efficiency, the Alloytec 190 is equipped with variable cam phasing on exhaust as well as inlet camshafts, which is a GM engine 'first'.

A dual stage variable intake manifold, specified on the Alloytec 190, facilitates greater torque at low to medium engine speeds and increases power at high speed.

Among other key contributors to superior Alloytec V6 performance and durability are a precision sand-cast alloy cylinder block (almost 10kg lighter than the ECOTEC block), a heavy duty micro-alloy forged steel crankshaft, piston-cooling oil jets, latest technology three-chain cam drive and coolant loss protection software.

And I believe that's where the energy loss is at higher revs; three chains to drive DOHC per bank - according to this head mechanic anyway.

When you read about the Alloytec engine it makes the 3.8 L Mitsubishi look really good. 175 KW out of a bore X stroke - no variable timing or DOHC or variable intake manifold. Crap, they fitted the four cylinder intake for gods sake ...

I'm very glad (and envious) that your loving your car!!!! I realise this is a Mitsubishi forum but perhaps you can keep us posted re gains after your mods.

By the way, whats a claybar?

Detailing Clay. Picks up all the tree sap, pollution etc that sits on your paint.
On a new car its not really needed, every 2 years or so.
Follow it up with a good polish and wax, by hand is fine.
For dark colored cars the Meg's NXT tech wax is bloody fantastic
http://www.waxit.com.au/products.asp?cat=3

']Detailing Clay. Picks up all the tree sap, pollution etc that sits on your paint.
On a new car its not really needed, every 2 years or so.
Follow it up with a good polish and wax, by hand is fine.
For dark colored cars the Meg's NXT tech wax is bloody fantastic
http://www.waxit.com.au/products.asp?cat=3

Thanks for the detailing info TUFFTR.....I might give it a go this weekend.

Yeah, good pickup.

i did some research -



And I believe that's where the energy loss is at higher revs; three chains to drive DOHC per bank - according to this head mechanic anyway.

When you read about the Alloytec engine it makes the 3.8 L Mitsubishi look really good. 175 KW out of a bore X stroke - no variable timing or DOHC or variable intake manifold. Crap, they fitted the four cylinder intake for gods sake ...

6G75 is a fantastic engine when you look at the specs. SOHC, yet so god damn eager!! My dad has said it is by far the best 6 cyl car he has driven, including the VE SV6, which was rubbish in comparison. I personally am starting to move away from looking at a Magna VR-X and looking at picking up a 380.

Thanks for the detailing info TUFFTR.....I might give it a go this weekend.

Clay bar is a detailing miracle. It is amazing how much burnt-in dirt and oil is found on car paint. I use Meguiars detailing clay and it always brings the car up to a brilliant shine after a polish and few coats of wax