opilot87, post a pic when you get it back?

Here we are people, pic of it installed in my car. Its on a 2nd gen with cruise control, and to my suprise, the wiring was identical, so it was a case of unplug and plug for the wiring, easy as :)

Enjoy, was getting dark when I took them, so first pic is with flash so you can see detail, but the colours/look are more realistic on the 2nd pic without flash. Oh and last one is one of my car as i had just washed it lol

Ollie

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/opilot87/IMG_4664.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/opilot87/IMG_4666.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/opilot87/IMG_4672.jpg

I'm not sure if it's the flash but it looks like the re-coloured bits still have a tinge of red showing..

How much did it set you back, $75 was it?

awesome, how much did this cost? can most auto trimmers do this?

i plan to do this to my wheel when i get it, can they do it in all sorts of colours?

Awesome mate, what'd that set you back? Its exactly what I'm going to do with mine when I eventually get my hands on it :P Haven't looked into pricing much yet though.

I'm pretty much sure the shoe repair shop can re-dye it for cheaper price.

Nice work. BTW, anyone know what the difference is between the MOMO Ralliart steering
wheel and that on mine? Visually, mine is missing the MOMO badge. See my sig for an image
of my steering wheel.

Nice work. BTW, anyone know what the difference is between the MOMO Ralliart steering
wheel and that on mine? Visually, mine is missing the MOMO badge. See my sig for an image
of my steering wheel.

the ralliart wheel is red and black and the GTV / LE VRX is silver and black. im pretty shore the frame is the same.

Nice work. BTW, anyone know what the difference is between the MOMO Ralliart steering
wheel and that on mine? Visually, mine is missing the MOMO badge. See my sig for an image
of my steering wheel.
I have a similar wheel, except my inserts are metallic silver.

It cost me $75, and it was re-dyed, not re-trimmed. Re-trimming would have been a lot more expensive. I am not sure if they re-coloured the whole wheel or just the red bits, I think they mainly did the red bits and then blended it in by putting a light coat all over.

So it will probably cost the same or nearly the same if you want to change the colour of the whole wheel, and yeh they just use soem dye so I am sure they can do absolutely any colour you wish for.

vlad your wheel seems exactly the same except for the perforated momo section at the bottom which is curous. Dunno why they didnt just use the same wheel, maybe they would have had to pay royalty to momo or something.

I cant really see red, but I just looked at the wheel again, and if you go up real close and look down the deep stiching/join parts, you can just see traces of a little bit of red, which they couldnt get down to with the dye or whatever, but I dont think you would ever notice it unless you were looking for it.

Pretty happy with it, still got my cruise control and feels much much nicer to drive with. Feels like your holding a car now, and when you drive out of an intersection I love the soft smooth leather sliding through your hands.

Ollie

Here we are people, pic of it installed in my car. Its on a 2nd gen with cruise control, and to my suprise, the wiring was identical, so it was a case of unplug and plug for the wiring, easy as :)



did your old wheel have the same cruise control stalk hanging off the wheel, or was it the type with the buttons attached to the wheel?
looks very nice, cant wait to get mine.

Nice one opilot87. Wheel looks really nice, actually that's the cleanest looking 2nd Gen i've seen in a while :cool:

did your old wheel have the same cruise control stalk hanging off the wheel, or was it the type with the buttons attached to the wheel?
looks very nice, cant wait to get mine.

The KS had the stalk like the 3rd gens. However, the main switch is located next to the
dimmer dial. The 3rd gens have the main switch on the stalk.

The KS had the stalk like the 3rd gens. However, the main switch is located next to the
dimmer dial. The 3rd gens have the main switch on the stalk.

Yeah i have the main switch there too, but i have the buttons on the wheel, the wiring should be the same for when i get my new wheel yeah?

The KS had the stalk like the 3rd gens. However, the main switch is located next to the
dimmer dial. The 3rd gens have the main switch on the stalk.


only TH onwards had it on the stalk the TE/TF had it next to the dimmer.

only TH onwards had it on the stalk the TE/TF had it next to the dimmer.

I was talking about the Veradas...
Edit: Ignore the above. It was the alcohol typing.

I was talking about the Veradas...

the KE had the same stalk as the TE magna.

Looks good, and also good to see it can actually fit pretty easily. I'll give this a crack once I get the wheel + 3rd gen wheel fittings.

the KE had the same stalk as the TE magna.

Spot on, TE/TF/KE/KF had the button where the TCL switch is now on the newer models. TH/KH onward had the button on the end of the cruise stalk.

Yeah i have the main switch there too, but i have the buttons on the wheel, the wiring should be the same for when i get my new wheel yeah?

I would be pretty sure it does. When I was at the wreckers there was another wheel that had a new nicer stalk, and also had a push button on the side to turn cruise on/off. I thought this might be good coz I hate having to turn it on all the time using that button the dash. I ended up taking the one I have now coz it was a non-airbag wheel, and the horn pad cover is different, long story but I think the new system can be used "(though not sure if the extra on button would actually work) but it was simpler to take this whole wheel then have to mix and match.

I was just thinking that there are probably going to be quite a few people putting these wheels in that have never changed a steering wheel before so a couple of quick tips.

1. Be careful that you wont fall/move and wack your face on the steering wheel when undoing the big main nut. At first I was trying to hold the wheel with one hand and pull the ratchet lever the opposite way to un do it, but after a bit of effort I tried to simply clamp the steering wheel spoke and the ratchet lever together with one hand, and suprisingly came loose with little effort.

2. Once you loosen the main nut, loosen it a fair bit but leave it on. Then jerk the wheel back and forth and side to side until it comes loose. Once the wheel is loose take of the nut and wheel. Many a people have knocked themselves out as the steerign wheel is difficult to get unstuck, and when it finally does, goes flying in their face.

The first time I did this in my old car, I managed to give myself a blood nose. I actually used the 2nd trick, but when I was loosening the main nut I was putting in much effort and it suddenly came loose and as the ratchet handle just went limp I fell into the steering wheel and my nose hit smack bang on the rim :rant:

Also make you wheels dead straight when you take the wheel off, and try not to move it, so that when you put the new one on, you know to put the wheel heading dead centre and it will be in the correct alignment.

Ollie

Steering wheel looks nice mate!
So how did you/they change the colour? Was it recovered or 'painted'/coloured?
I notice it still has the MOMO emblem at the bottom.

Did your car have an airbag?
Was just wondering if the Ralliart Steering wheel would fit a 2nd gen with airbag.

Well guys, since I dont think we want 60 threads saying hey look at my new MOMO ralliart steering wheel, I rekon we put it all in here? or not lol
Thanks so much to Marc (Anon) for organising, buying, and dispatching these.

Well this is wat mine looks like, it feels and looks soooo awesum! :D

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/aannese/DSC00382.jpg

Now I can add the stock steering wheel to my workshop a.k.a. bedroom which now contains headlights, indicators, a bonnet, steering wheel, axle stands, and oil change gear :P

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/aannese/DSC00376.jpg

Awesome, looks good

you guys should start doing some DIY's for the rest of us in regards to installing the wheels

I'm pretty sure a monkey could swap these over if you have no airbag like me lol

It would have took me 10 minutes max if i didn't thread the 2nd screw that i went to take out caus it was tighter than a fish's ***hole! So i had to find another way in, which was very umm, interesting :P But i got it in the end!

But yer, tomorrow night ill take the horn pad back off and do up a quick DIY.

It was funny though caus I put it on, went for a drive, and realised it wasnt straight lol but it only took like 30 seconds to get it off and on again.

Threads merged... cbf with one hundred of these... Useful posts only plz...

Here's what it looks like when it's retrimmed in different coloured leather

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/Verada/verada34.jpg

Here's what it looks like when it's retrimmed in different coloured leather

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/Verada/verada34.jpg

how much for the retrim mohit?

peace

how much for the retrim mohit?

peace

i think he said it was around 300 for the retrim, i got quoted 330 to do mine when i had it so it sounds around right.

Blackman and Sons does it for $250

I got quoted $250 for a retrim.

how much for the retrim mohit?



Blackman and Sons does it for $250
Yup exactly what I paid for a retrim from Blackmans

Steering wheel looks nice mate!
So how did you/they change the colour? Was it recovered or 'painted'/coloured?
I notice it still has the MOMO emblem at the bottom.

Did your car have an airbag?
Was just wondering if the Ralliart Steering wheel would fit a 2nd gen with airbag.

It was re-dyed, I asked how exactly but to be honest I dont really remember what they told me, apart from 'exactly how its done at the tannery'. I think they try take off the original colour and then use leather dye stuff to colour it the colour you want. A lot cheaper than re-trimming the steering wheel. (cost me $75) So thats why it still has the MOMO emblem, leather is still exactly the same.

My car did not have an airbag before. I dont think this wheel would fit a 2nd gen with an airbag. Well the wheel would fit, however im pretty sure the original airbag will not fit inside as its different to the 3rd gen inside airbag and parts. I dont think it would be wise to use a 3rd gen airbag either, as it wasnt designed for the car. You could just not use the airbag but then you lose the safety and it is illegal.

Ollie

im definitely going with the redye over the retrim. looks good btw.

would love a right up with some pics for those with airbags. could prob do it myself. but i would prefer just to see a right up so i have a bit more of an idea of what im doing.

from what ive gathered.
1. undo battery. can just undo the -ve cant i?
2. undo some nuts/bolts.
3. unplug cruise and airbag.
4. err undo big nut most the way.
5. loosen steering wheel.
6. remove nut. remove steering wheel.

hmm. i havn't actually looked at my steering wheel. but it seems pretty easy.
just a bit unsure about the airbag.

im definitely going with the redye over the retrim. looks good btw.

would love a right up with some pics for those with airbags. could prob do it myself. but i would prefer just to see a right up so i have a bit more of an idea of what im doing.

from what ive gathered.
1. undo battery. can just undo the -ve cant i?
2. undo some nuts/bolts.
3. unplug cruise and airbag.
4. err undo big nut most the way.
5. loosen steering wheel.
6. remove nut. remove steering wheel.

hmm. i havn't actually looked at my steering wheel. but it seems pretty easy.
just a bit unsure about the airbag.



:cool: :cool: its really quite easy,all you need to do is find the right star shaped socket(tork screw?)and undo the two bolts that hold the airbag on,they dont come out all the way as they are held in by tabs,simply wriggle the bag off,undo all the connections and swap everything over..just remember for complete safety to remove the neg battery cable and wrap it in tape or a cloth to avoid accidental contact with the terminal..its an easy job and the wheel looks and feels great....mmmm...momo....lol

Anyone have a recommendation for a redyer in Sydney/surrounding area?

star shaped socket(tork screw?)


torx my fuzzy wuzzy friend

Hey Guys
Two questions...
Anyone got a pic of a red and black momo in a TJ VR-X... without redying the red bits I mean.?

Also couldn't you just pull the airbag system's fuse out??

Every time I disconnect the battery i have to get the transmission reset at mitso using the MUT-II cos' it flares from 2nd to 3rd.... I'm getting over doing that....
Looks the goods though!!!

Cheers
Steve

Hey Guys
Two questions...
Anyone got a pic of a red and black momo in a TJ VR-X... without redying the red bits I mean.?

Also couldn't you just pull the airbag system's fuse out??

Every time I disconnect the battery i have to get the transmission reset at mitso using the MUT-II cos' it flares from 2nd to 3rd.... I'm getting over doing that....
Looks the goods though!!!

Cheers
Steve
Why go to all the trouble of trying to find the fuse when you can just yank the -ve wire on the battery? Seems easier for me. Strange problem you're having with the tranny though.

Why go to all the trouble of trying to find the fuse when you can just yank the -ve wire on the battery? Seems easier for me. Strange problem you're having with the tranny though.

Well from what the guys at mitso said it's common for the 5 speed tiptronics...
They turn off the invecs and test the tranny in pure mechanical mode to see if there's a defect. if all checks out ok during the test they just connect up the MUT and do something and she's all sweet again...

Do ya think a fuse would be enough... I've never played around with the SRS system before...

hell I can do everything else but having an explosive device going off in the face isn't my idea of fun.
Though... it'd be nice to have a few weeks off work.... and my nose smashed to the back of my head.... hmmmmm fun to be had right there!!!!

Steve

Hey Guys
Two questions...
Anyone got a pic of a red and black momo in a TJ VR-X... without redying the red bits I mean.?

Also couldn't you just pull the airbag system's fuse out??

Every time I disconnect the battery i have to get the transmission reset at mitso using the MUT-II cos' it flares from 2nd to 3rd.... I'm getting over doing that....
Looks the goods though!!!

Cheers
Steve

Here's how you solve it

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7203/mitsunewshiftnn8.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mitsunewshiftnn8.jpg)

For anyone interested, i did mine yesterday, and the torx screw bit i used to get the airbag off was a T-30. So if you dont have a torx set you can just buy the one piece.

Anyone got a pic of a red and black momo in a TJ VR-X... without redying the red bits I mean.?

Mine was sent yesterday, so hopefully I'll have a pic for you Thursday night:)

Here's how you solve it

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7203/mitsunewshiftnn8.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mitsunewshiftnn8.jpg)

Thanks TJAWD,

I did that exact sequence.... I have the workshop manual on my laptop...(and all the guides written here on AMC.
I sat there for pretty much one whole afternoon doing this...

At gentle throttle it worked a treat... when I went for an overtaking move it flared...

Apparently it takes approx 40 key starts to fully relearn this thing.... easier and quicker just to get the mitso guys to do it in 10 minutes.... and it's perfect.

I just ordered my MOMO wheel too from a guy in the ACT....
Do you guys think this MOMO wheel would look good without re-dying the red inserts on the TJ VR-X with it's red dials???

Can't wait...
I'm gonna pull the SRS fuse instead.....

Steve

Mine was sent yesterday, so hopefully I'll have a pic for you Thursday night:)
Thanks champ...

I bought mine this morning so I'll prolly get mine by friday ...

Please post a pic when it's in!!

Cheers

Steve

Can anyone confirm if it's safe to do this without d/c the battery and just d/c the airbag fuse? (assuming there's an airbag fuse)

Saves me losing my audio settings which is a hassle. Along with avoiding resetting the cars CPU

Cheers

Saves me losing my audio settings which is a hassle.

aww diddums

lol

i would safely say that removing the fuse would do the job, that was my plan with it

anyone recommend a good re-trim place?

Can anyone confirm if it's safe to do this without d/c the battery and just d/c the airbag fuse? (assuming there's an airbag fuse)

Saves me losing my audio settings which is a hassle. Along with avoiding resetting the cars CPU

Cheers
Just be sure you pull the right fuse, don't really want to hear about any deaths on the news from someone trying to change the steering wheel on a magna.

i would safely say that removing the fuse would do the job, that was my plan with it

What fuse is it and where?

I'd rather yank a fuse out, it always seems to take my car 2-3 weeks to relearn the auto :/

..its a matter of members interest to see what others do,so here is a "boring " shot of my new wheel in my Sports....

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/Image020.jpg

i kill all of you!!!

i kill all of you!!!

Nice me first then!!!

That shot of the MOMO in the sports looks HOT!!
I'll def keep the red on my wheel!!!
Thanks for posting that VERY boring shot ;) of the wheel in your car maggie 3.5!!!

Steve

..its a matter of members interest to see what others do,so here is a "boring " shot of my new wheel in my Sports....

It's colour coded with your lights and dials so I'll let it slide :)
Got mine, I know if I install it now I will never color code it. Hmmm... Ponders.

anyone in melb found a place to get the wheel dyed?

Here's what it looks like when it's retrimmed in different coloured leather

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/Verada/verada34.jpg

the fact that you have lost the momo embossing on the bottom of the wheel by retrimming isnt a good thing I wouldnt have thought but colour looks good

the fact that you have lost the momo embossing on the bottom of the wheel by retrimming isnt a good thing I wouldnt have thought but colour looks good
Loosing the Momo logo didn't really bother me but if it does i can always get it stitched in if required.

I just got my wheel today and just finished installing it!!

Yes at 1AM (I work shift work...neighbours must hate me)
Took 20 minutes and all I can say is pass me a tissue!

They look good in photos, but installed with your hands around it... it's just plain awesome!!!
Can't believe how a simple mod like this can transform the feel of a car......

Now every car I've owned has had a MOMO wheel on it!!!

I just pulled the fuse for the SRS airbags (In the TJ VR-X series 2 it's the Hazard flasher fuse 10Amp inside the drivers footwell) and I disconnected the horn too cos those #30 Torx bits are damn tight) reconnected everything and she's beautiful!!!

And thanks to all the AMC guys for posting pictures of their wheels..... Made me get one!!!

Steve

I ended up having to drill the screw out to get the airbag off, but once it was out...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/mitchello/ralliartwheelmitchello.jpg

Did anyone have any problems actually getting the wheel off? I'm at this stage:
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8246/dscf1961jd3.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf1961jd3.jpg)

But despite no matter how hard I pull, I can't actually get the wheel out (the nut's loosened but not totally removed). Is there something I'm doing wrong?

If it means anything, the steering wheel is 'locked' there - there's no flex side to side like there normally is...

when i took off my wheel in my last car i left the nut on and gave it a bit of a tap with a hammer. But with the 3rd gens i don't know if it will affect the airbag spring ??

Did anyone have any problems actually getting the wheel off? I'm at this stage:
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8246/dscf1961jd3.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf1961jd3.jpg)

But despite no matter how hard I pull, I can't actually get the wheel out (the nut's loosened but not totally removed). Is there something I'm doing wrong?

If it means anything, the steering wheel is 'locked' there - there's no flex side to side like there normally is...


mmmm if its locked there you obviosly have the keys out,put them back in to unlock the steering lock and straighten up the wheel,give it a thump forward,ie hit it on both sides of the wheel at once with both hands and try getting both hands behind the wheel and hitting and pulling on it...shoundnt be that hard,,,,,

Did anyone have any problems actually getting the wheel off? I'm at this stage:
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/8246/dscf1961jd3.th.jpg (http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf1961jd3.jpg)

But despite no matter how hard I pull, I can't actually get the wheel out (the nut's loosened but not totally removed). Is there something I'm doing wrong?

If it means anything, the steering wheel is 'locked' there - there's no flex side to side like there normally is...
You really have to grab the top of the wheel and rock the bastard toward you, it has been on there an awful long time so it probably doesn't want to move, give it a hefty shake :)

Watch your teeth too.

it is also mounted on a tapered shaft, so that makes it even harder to get off.
You may need to buy/borrow a steering wheel puller from somewhere.

Thanks for the tips. Turning the engine on and pulling it off did the trick. Came off first go when I had the engine on! I was too scared to do it originally in case it messed up something with the airbags :P

Looks sweet feels sweet... can't wait to take it for a spin...

An attempt at an "interesting" pic of the Ralliart wheel ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/mitchello/ralliartwheelinuse.jpg

An attempt at an "interesting" pic of the Ralliart wheel ;)

Better than your last one!

when i took off my wheel in my last car i left the nut on and gave it a bit of a tap with a hammer. But with the 3rd gens i don't know if it will affect the airbag spring ??
I wouldn't be putting a hammer between my face and an airbag under any circumstances :bowrofl:

I wouldn't be putting a hammer between my face and an airbag under any circumstances :bowrofl:

Pretty sure you have to take the airbag off before you can undo the bolt mate:cool:

hahahaha don't mind me!

gettingTFO :gtfo:

An attempt at an "interesting" pic of the Ralliart wheel ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/mitchello/ralliartwheelinuse.jpg
Shouldn't you be watching the speedo a bit lol or did you take that photo in a 110km/h zone? Wheel looks good.

Question directed at everyone who's fitted theirs thus far.

What tools did you require to remove the wheel and refit it? Please be specific, I need to know what I've got to get and what I already have, if I need too many tools I'll just get it fitted by Mitsu, they're not very expensive and can do it on the spot I believe. Cheers

Nevermind Mitchell just informed me :)

mine and Gas_Heds

just re-dyed lookin sexy :cool:

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6677/redyeralliartwheelih9.jpg

mine and Gas_Heds

just re-dyed lookin sexy :cool:


did you do it yourself?

did you do it yourself?

he does all his work himself, with randals occasional help :P

did you do it yourself?


yeah took about an hour

yeah took about an hour

did you just spray it straight on?
or did you do any prep work?
does it feel like it's always been black? wondering how good it is for wearing

did you just spray it straight on?
or did you do any prep work?
does it feel like it's always been black? wondering how good it is for wearing



you wouldnt even know it was red no prep just vinyl paint looks and feels normal to me

got mine in, put it in today. And you gotta be friggin kidding me...

i spent hours out there (missing the gordon ramsey show and everything) trying to get the wheel off, i was whacking, trying to fabricate a puller (dont have one) and everything. I came here and saw someone (sorry forgot who) earlier in the thread who said that starting the car and the wheel came off. Sounded weird but it tried.

I started the car and grab the top of the wheel and yank it back an forth many times, moving the whole car, and then i turn the wheel left right, left right, and pop it just pops off. Damn it!

Now its on and im very happy. I dont have interesting photos, just the regular.

mine and Gas_Heds

just re-dyed lookin sexy :cool:



just wondering did you have to cover the rest of the wheel and then spray the red?

just wondering did you have to cover the rest of the wheel and then spray the red?

Nope no covering the rest just spray on cause it blends in well.

We dyed them ourselves, it actually soaks into the leather and looks quite good.

The only issue we had was that after it had sucked in about 5 coats and dried the surface had a very dry look to it, kinda chalky looking but no actual residue on it, we just massaged a little baby oil into it and the lustre returned. Apparently the baby oil is wonderful for reconditioning leather such as baseball mits/shoes etc.

Total cost - $0 (we had baby oil cos BJ31OS has a little dude, and MagnaTRDriver had the dye from previous mods and lives around the corner...)

We dyed them ourselves, it actually soaks into the leather and looks quite good.

The only issue we had was that after it had sucked in about 5 coats and dried the surface had a very dry look to it, kinda chalky looking but no actual residue on it, we just massaged a little baby oil into it and the lustre returned. Apparently the baby oil is wonderful for reconditioning leather such as baseball mits/shoes etc.

Total cost - $0 (we had baby oil cos BJ31OS has a little dude, and MagnaTRDriver had the dye from previous mods and lives around the corner...)

i reckon it looks better matt but it will go shiny eventually from wear. nice work luke cause thats what the leather places do anyway. just dont go too thick with the dye casue it does crack if its too thick.

i reckon it looks better matt but it will go shiny eventually from wear. nice work luke cause thats what the leather places do anyway. just dont go too thick with the dye casue it does crack if its too thick.

I figured as much, there was no way I was paying $75 to colour a $40 wheel. The way I saw it was if I completely ruin it then Ive only wasted $40.....And when I googled Baby Oil and Leather I got 4 billion results so I figured I must have guessed the right product to use on it...

well, looks like we all have a great alternative to a re-trim
thanks for the tip gas-hed

ok. so the question is, is it better to redye it, or to spray it with the vinyl paint?

ok i managed to get one of these babies off ebay for 65 bucks :D... (i missed out on the group buy)...

anyway, one thing i forgot to look before i got it was can i keep my cruise control with it???

ok i managed to get one of these babies off ebay for 65 bucks :D... (i missed out on the group buy)...

anyway, one thing i forgot to look before i got it was can i keep my cruise control with it???

Yes you can keep it

Here is my Momo wheel after I dyed it myself last weekend. I masked it off so that I only dyed the red parts then used some leather conditioner on it. :)

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/walker35tc/S7300335.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/walker35tc/S7300336.jpg

Now that looks Classy!
I'm keen to see the longevity of the dieing process, if it rubs off etc.

Here is my Momo wheel after I dyed it myself last weekend. I masked it off so that I only dyed the red parts then used some leather conditioner on it. :)

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/walker35tc/S7300335.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/walker35tc/S7300336.jpg

That looks like a really good job, if I knew mine would turn out like that, I would have probably done it myself rather than proffessionally. Does it still FEEL like leather and the rest of the steering wheel? Was thinking if that spray on paint stuff is on too thick it might not feel like nice soft leather anymore?

Ollie

what air-bagged or not wheels fit in with the ralliart outer section?

I have a 2nd gen so i need to buy a whole 3rd gen wheel for the centre piece. Tops.

Yep, after I used leather conditioner to remove the chalky residue, it feels the same. I must have done at least 10 coats maybe more on it so I am hoping it will last a long time and no sign of wear as yet. The only concern was an initial but barely noticable dye smell on my hands/fingers after an hour drive to/from work but that it gone now. Then again, if you use a lot of leather conditioner, that probably won't happen.

what air-bagged or not wheels fit in with the ralliart outer section?

I have a 2nd gen so i need to buy a whole 3rd gen wheel for the centre piece. Tops.

I'm not sure how an non airbag 3rd gen front cover is held on. If it's anything like my mum's Camry, the cover is pushed on and held by clips, then there is one screw in the bottom of the wheel. I don't know how you would go securely fitting it to the momo wheel though as it only ever came with an airbag. However, if you want a 3rd gen airbag front cover, the front cover is attached to the airbag itself, which is then secured from each side of the wheel with torx screws. So in order to have the front cover, my understanding is that you need the airbag which is no big deal. Then you would also need the rear cover housing, the 4 screws which secure it and hold the airbag torx screws, plus the horn pad assembly.

hey i just got (getting) a wheel. has any1 posted step by step pics and instructions on how to change over without deploying airbag? and where do i get the screwdriver bit? any1 want to sell me 1?

and where do i get the screwdriver bit? any1 want to sell me 1?

They're Torx bits. You can buy them from Bunnings. I found a pack of six or so bits as well as a driver for $7 (underneath the screwdrivers). You need to get a 'T30' size bit.

I don't have a guide, but it's really easy to do. Once you take the horn/airbag off (a torx screw either side of the wheel, and unplug a cord), you're greeted with this (pic attached). Basically you just undo everything, and put it back when you have the new wheel on.

I disconnected the battery (removed the negative terminal) to make sure the airbag didn't go off.

I have read here many times that you need a size 30 torx bit, i got one of them and it was too big, i ended up using a size 28.

See my attachments-

1) that's the fuse you remove to stop the airbag going off, if you dont want to remove the battery. Also (i didnt take a pic) but if you dont want the horn to keep going off, you will need to remove the fuse for that in the engine bay.

2) this is one of the screws you need to remove, it is on the right next to the cruise control, there is also one at the same spot, other side.

3) this is when the nuts have been undone and the airbag has been pulled out (will take a lilttle force, dont be afraid) that yellow wire in the middle connects to the airbag. If you remove this connection then you can take the airbag out and put it aside.

4) this is with the airbag removed and with those springs removed also (as seen in Red Valdez's pic)

Undo pretty much all the screws you can and undo the nut in the middle, but dont remove it completely for now. There are various ways of removing the wheel, some use a puller, some say you can yank it, i found that turning the wheel quickly left and right made the wheel loosen, then you can remove the centre nut, and pull the wheel off (provided you have removed the screws that connect it to the plastic cover that covers the rear side of the steering wheel)

As always, replacement is the reversal of the removal procedure.

thanks Meph, can you have that put into the DIY section, would be great for people looking for it in the future

Meph, I don't know about your car, but thats not the airbag fuse in mine. Mines the 2nd from the right in the bottom right corner. Probably best to read the fuse cover and pull the right one, not worth the risk of just presuming whats written here is correct.

With help of our friend WD40 and a good nudging, Cruiser has a new wheel.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1255/p0609081635jd3fg9.jpg

Meph, I don't know about your car, but thats not the airbag fuse in mine. Mines the 2nd from the right in the bottom right corner. Probably best to read the fuse cover and pull the right one, not worth the risk of just presuming whats written here is correct.

Well i looked at the lid for the fuse cover and i pulled out the ones that looked like they could have been for the airbag (2nd and 3rd from bottom right). So i turn the car to "on" and the SRS light goes out.

Hmm... *gets out the manual* ok its the (one in the picture) so i pulled that out, turned car to "on" and the SRS light stays on.

Also the one you would think is the horn one (in the footwell) isnt for the horn, you need a strange one from the engine bay (again check the manual) its like the covers for the fuse boxes are wrong. Unless its because mine is one of the first TL's and they have the TJ covers which are different? i dont know.

hey. where do we buy the leather dye?
and is there any recommended products?

I just went down to my local repco for my dye...
It was just called Plastic and Vinyl dye. Can't remember the brand though soz :/

hey. where do we buy the leather dye?
and is there any recommended products?

super cheap auto or autobahn or similar. bunnings might even have them in the paint/hobby section perhaps. the only brand i could find is 'septone'

I love the wheels which people have been dyed and retrimmed, the red just looks cheap and nasty and doesn't seem to go with any of the magnas interias

I got offered a ralliart wheel a long time back for my old vrx when I got the seats, if I knew about retrimming I would of definately got one. They look so classy retrimmed :cool:

I love the wheels which people have been dyed and retrimmed, the red just looks cheap and nasty and doesn't seem to go with any of the magnas interias

I noticed that too, up close they don't quite look cheap and nasty up against the black dash, but still out of place. I'll be retrimming and repainting the dashboard to match up. Maybe i'll just have the wheel done. Need some photoshop concepts whipped up first. Kind of hard to tell, i'm not trying to make a "modern classy" but rather a retro classy, black all around with light splashes of subtle red thrown in. :cool:

I noticed on the second gens these stick out an extra inch or so due to the added length of the horn pad. The actual horn attachment also doesn't feel as sturdy as the factory standard second gen wheel. That said, can't complain. The results were nice and the wheel is much nicer to hold.

the red just looks cheap and nasty and doesn't seem to go with any of the magnas interias

It depends on the car though. I initially had reservations about putting the red inside my VR-X (I was going to re-dye it silver to match the outside), but it turns out the red wheel is a pretty sweet match for the red dials.

I noticed on the second gens these stick out an extra inch or so due to the added length of the horn pad. The actual horn attachment also doesn't feel as sturdy as the factory standard second gen wheel.

But isnt the whole steering wheel from a 3rd gen??? If the horn pad seems to stick out, you can actually adjust it. I didnt get the screws that hold the horn pad in, so I had to use the one from my old wheel, except the 3rd gen needs two screws. So sometimes the left side sticks up a bit, need to find another screw for it.

But if you disconnect you horn, or you can just really piss off the neighbours, press the horn pad down and then screw in/tighten the screw that holds the horn pad in. I did this the first time, and it actually seemed to be holdign it down to much like the horn was going to go off permanentely so I loosened it a bit. Give this a try, might help.

Ollie

Ah, I actually meant the entire assembly was longer than second gen wheels, but the horn pad itself does stick out a little. I'll give this a try tomorrow. Probably just needs a little "fine tuning". Cheers for the tip :)

thanx heaps... awsome help... i think i could even do this..great pics and discription
thanks again

I have read here many times that you need a size 30 torx bit, i got one of them and it was too big, i ended up using a size 28.

See my attachments-

1) that's the fuse you remove to stop the airbag going off, if you dont want to remove the battery. Also (i didnt take a pic) but if you dont want the horn to keep going off, you will need to remove the fuse for that in the engine bay.

2) this is one of the screws you need to remove, it is on the right next to the cruise control, there is also one at the same spot, other side.

3) this is when the nuts have been undone and the airbag has been pulled out (will take a lilttle force, dont be afraid) that yellow wire in the middle connects to the airbag. If you remove this connection then you can take the airbag out and put it aside.

4) this is with the airbag removed and with those springs removed also (as seen in Red Valdez's pic)

Undo pretty much all the screws you can and undo the nut in the middle, but dont remove it completely for now. There are various ways of removing the wheel, some use a puller, some say you can yank it, i found that turning the wheel quickly left and right made the wheel loosen, then you can remove the centre nut, and pull the wheel off (provided you have removed the screws that connect it to the plastic cover that covers the rear side of the steering wheel)

As always, replacement is the reversal of the removal procedure.

It depends on the car though. I initially had reservations about putting the red inside my VR-X (I was going to re-dye it silver to match the outside), but it turns out the red wheel is a pretty sweet match for the red dials.

yep you are quite right there

i wanted to dye mine but was told in no uncertain terms by she who must be obeyed that it looked allright

i suppose those of us with Sports/VR-X are lucky because we have the red dials and splashes of red in our seats...regardless the wheel is great to drive with...

I love the wheels which people have been dyed and retrimmed, the red just looks cheap and nasty and doesn't seem to go with any of the magnas interias

I got offered a ralliart wheel a long time back for my old vrx when I got the seats, if I knew about retrimming I would of definately got one. They look so classy retrimmed :cool:

hahahaha what about those of us with the full (ish) red leather VRX interior on the way and a custom airbrushed centre consoles and various other red interior ideas? :cool:

Im thinkin the red wheel looks pretty sweet. But i do understand what your saying, with nothing else changed it would look a bit odd. Just as mine did before i started changing other things lol

Kieran

Undo pretty much all the screws you can and undo the nut in the middle, but dont remove it completely for now. There are various ways of removing the wheel, some use a puller, some say you can yank it, i found that turning the wheel quickly left and right made the wheel loosen, then you can remove the centre nut, and pull the wheel off (provided you have removed the screws that connect it to the plastic cover that covers the rear side of the steering wheel)

As always, replacement is the reversal of the removal procedure.

Warning to all. This is an important step, and as obvious as it sounds, if you do not do this, you will damage the slip ring or clock spring assembly. Great DIY write up.

Well i looked at the lid for the fuse cover and i pulled out the ones that looked like they could have been for the airbag (2nd and 3rd from bottom right). So i turn the car to "on" and the SRS light goes out.

Hmm... *gets out the manual* ok its the (one in the picture) so i pulled that out, turned car to "on" and the SRS light stays on.

Also the one you would think is the horn one (in the footwell) isnt for the horn, you need a strange one from the engine bay (again check the manual) its like the covers for the fuse boxes are wrong. Unless its because mine is one of the first TL's and they have the TJ covers which are different? i dont know.

Just went and pulled out the fuse you claim is the Airbag one (well it is in your TL anyway) and it killed my indicators. Checked all my fuses, they all seem fine, be damned if I know why my SRS light is jammed on, must be the error code people are talking of. Anyway not the thread for that, just wanted to post my fuse discoveries :)

I have pulled my wheel on/off multiple times now.....

I dont disconnect the battery, but I do remove the following fuses:

Footwell: 10A Indicator fuse and 10A Horn Fuse
Engine Bay: 10A Indicator Fuse and Horn Relay

Never had an issue.

I have pulled my wheel on/off multiple times now.....

I dont disconnect the battery, but I do remove the following fuses:

Footwell: 10A Indicator fuse and 10A Horn Fuse
Engine Bay: 10A Indicator Fuse and Horn Relay

Never had an issue.
How does that disconnect the airbag?

The indicator fuse is the airbag fuse aswell, or so I have been told, and Im still alive with face intact after about 5 wheel removals so I must be doing it correct....

The indicator fuse is the airbag fuse aswell, or so I have been told, and Im still alive with face intact after about 5 wheel removals so I must be doing it correct....

he's right, if you remove the fuse and turn the car on, you will see the srs light come on showing an error

do not turn the car on with the fuse out, as that error will stay on and not go away.

The indicator fuse is the airbag fuse aswell, or so I have been told, and Im still alive with face intact after about 5 wheel removals so I must be doing it correct....
Your face looks pretty messed up Luke, are you sure they haven't hit you a couple of times? Any part of replacing the steering wheel that you can't remember? It would explain a bit... :bowrofl:

Bummer... I have just found out that my TH Sports doesn't have an airbag!!! I pulled out a multitude of fuses and no SRS light came on. So very gently pulled the horn pad off and .... no yellow wire and nothing that remotely looks like an airbag!
So I could have got that momo steering wheel I have loved for years :(
Oh well... $20 odd is cheaper than $400 I guess.

Bummer... I have just found out that my TH Sports doesn't have an airbag!!! I pulled out a multitude of fuses and no SRS light came on. So very gently pulled the horn pad off and .... no yellow wire and nothing that remotely looks like an airbag!
So I could have got that momo steering wheel I have loved for years :(
Oh well... $20 odd is cheaper than $400 I guess.
you've been driving with a false sense of security all these years! now you might have to actually drive safely :shock:

so non-airbag cars cannot use these wheels? why is that? it doesnt fit?

do not turn the car on with the fuse out, as that error will stay on and not go away.
The car is actually supposed to detect normal operation of the circuit again and reset the error code, it appears to be a malfunction that it doesn't :doubt:


so non-airbag cars cannot use these wheels? why is that? it doesnt fit?
They fit fine, he was just commenting on not having the airbag. Nothing wrong with driving a magna that doesn't punch you in the face when you crash it :P

I received my wheel yesterday cheers anon much appreciated, although the old wheel caused major dramas with it not coming off, even with the car started it took quite an effort to get it off, but the new wheel looks and feels awesome thanks mate.

Yeah once I found out I didn't have an airbag I realised I could stop searching the car for a fuse for it! That was what took me the longest :P
After that it was a very quick and easy procedure. Looks great! And i didn't have any torx head screws at all... which I assume is because of the lack of an airbag.

The car is actually supposed to detect normal operation of the circuit again and reset the error code, it appears to be a malfunction that it doesn't :doubt:

not for the airbag circuit its a safety issue. but it takes a dealer 2 secs to reset it. unlike when it deploys in an accident u have to replace the computer that can't be reset.

well i dont know if the code is stored anywhere, because i pulled the fuse, turned the car to "on" to see if the light stayed on (it did)

when i was done, fuse back in, car to on, light went off... So as long as the bag goes boom, im happy.

Damn I wish I'd got one of these now :cry: they look hot!

well after changing the headlight globes on my TL this job was piece of piss. looks sweet as.

I'm surprised that no one else has done this yet with their wheel.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a268/KansaiDorifto/DSCF0662.jpg

I found the Septone Vinyl and Plastic paint went on but came off the moment you brushed it with a fingernail. Bit of a shame really. Up until the paint came off it looked quite good. The other thing was that the paint needed to be shaken for a while before use otherwise the stuff that would come out would just strip the old paint off the surface of where you were spraying.

I redid mine with Waproo Dye and Shine (rejuvenator dye) and shined it up with Kitten Leather Conditioner and Cleaner and it came up mint.

The dye and shine came in a 50ml bottle from the Mr Minit Kiosks in shopping centres.

That looks really good. I love how you've kept the Momo bit red. Do you know if the dye and shine comes in colours other than black?

The dye and shine is just a black colour but they have Sprayon Colour change cans.

http://www.waproo.com.au/products/sprayon.htm

that stuff should do the trick too.

Better pic -

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y32/emarkby/car/IMGP45771024x768.jpg

has anyone else had the septone peeling off??

5th post this page...

I found the Septone Vinyl and Plastic paint went on but came off the moment you brushed it with a fingernail.

it's on...

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1012/wheel1tm0.jpg

cheers,
.wook

Surely there must have been an easier way to fit a steering wheel than dismantling your car... lol

5th post this page...

ie anyone else had any problems

ie anyone else had any problems

im interested too cause i bought a AU momo wheel for the XR6 and i dont want it peeling. did people use the gloss or matt black? thanks.

VHT vinyl paint... Satin Black.

have used it on several high traffic areas in my car without issue. about $15 a can.

Surely there must have been an easier way to fit a steering wheel than dismantling your car... lol
there probably was, but I felt like pulling everything out!! lol

Looks great wookiee, not too shiny.

VHT vinyl paint... Satin Black.

have used it on several high traffic areas in my car without issue. about $15 a can.


thanks i used the septone stuff b4 and didn't have peeling, those with peeling are u using gloss paint unless they changed the formula recently?

I used that VHT vinyl paint as well in matt (satin) black and mine is holding up fine with no paint scratched/peeling off yet. It must be almost a couple of months ago since I dyed it.

can you the VHT vinyl paint in grey?
i know you can get the waproo stuff

do you thick the grey will cover the red?

ayne']can you the VHT vinyl paint in grey?
i know you can get the waproo stuff

do you thick the grey will cover the red?
I used the waproo stuff on mine used two coats when dry I used a topcoat sealer to finish off. Check out my ride in members machines for a pic as I had just done mine.

where would have the best range of VHT vinyl paints?
as i dont know which grey i need to match to my leather

its taken me a while to read the 15 pages on this post (and other posts) to make sure it hasnt been mentioned prior so.. is there any other place (besides ebay) that you can get ralliart steering wheels from? JM

eBay would be the main one. They were sold off in bulk lots from Greys Online for cheap, and eBay is obviously the easiest way to sell it off, especially for a niche like Magnas.

Forum member Anon did a group buy for AMC, but that was ages back, and was limited to 60 people. You could always place a WTB thread in the For Sale section in case anyone is selling theirs.

i bought some light grey VHT vinyl spray today for my wheel

just wondering for the people who masked there wheels when they did it how effective was it?
did it run or masked well?

Depends on the quality of the masking tape. The 3M stuff worked really well.

Depends on the quality of the masking tape. The 3M stuff worked really well.
sweet man!
knew i should of got some while i was in town
too distracted by the hawthorn theme song

so the curves weren't that hard to mask properly?
did you use any of that vinyl prep stuff or straight on with the dye?

Personally I found the VHT leather and vinyl dye spray to be very poor, it pretty much came off as soon at it had set and I had cleaned the thing first with a proper leather cleaner.

The masking was easy enough, just mask in lots of straight lines and they'll do the job fine.

kept mine in the red and black - getting the gear knob and hand brake trimmed to match it.

Mitsubishi chadstone did the install at the last service at no cost!

just spent 2.5 hours masking mine and then prep'd it with some K&H cleaner stuff and then sprayed the first grey vinyl coat on

have to say
looks pretty damn sweet!

just waiting for it to soak/dry a bit and ill give it another coat

Vynal Paint - Paint - will wear off after extended use
Vynal Dye - soaks into leather - will not wear out
I've used the paint on another high wear area, actually less wear then what a wheel would get and within a month or two it was bye bye

use a form of shoe dye to permanently change the color
wookie, nice :cool:

']Vynal Paint - Paint - will wear off after extended use
Vynal Dye - soaks into leather - will not wear out
I've used the paint on another high wear area, actually less wear then what a wheel would get and within a month or two it was bye bye

use a form of shoe dye to permanently change the color
wookie, nice :cool:

did i say paint ? :S
its the VHT dye that everyone else is using

wonder how my leather seats would come up with the black stuff
might be a future mod

ayne']did i say paint ? :S
its the VHT dye that everyone else is using

wonder how my leather seats would come up with the black stuff
might be a future mod
I wasnt referring to YOU, I was saying in general, some people are using a paint, if it works for them well they are lucky, cause paint will wear off.
Just saying, use a dye, not a paint..

Well i tried VHT Light Grey Satin and it had a blue tinge and was too light
I spent 2 weeks waiting for VHT Dove Grey and I found out today its not longer made
So today I'm Trying VHT Silver Vinyl Dye its close to the colour of my grey leather however it has a metallic look to it

so now i dont know what to do
I think i will just paint it black afterall
zzzz

got some grey waproo colour change stuff
put one coat on and its taken the silver colour away
i think after a couple more coats over the next few days it will just about be a perfect match

should have just used the waproo stuff to start with

Well, after 3 layers of separate dyes the dye was no longer working
so i decided to strip it back and it didnte work properly do i dyed over my half done striping and it looks like crap!

should have painted it black in the first place considering my seats are going to go black soon

so now im without a wheel! and im extremly p***** at myself!
:@
:@
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I just gave mine to a professional leather repairer. He stripped it completely and re-did it all black. It cost me $100 to get it done and its guaranteed not to rub off. He re-colours complete leather lounge suites for Domayne so I have not worries about the quality of his work.

I just gave mine to a professional leather repairer. He stripped it completely and re-did it all black. It cost me $100 to get it done and its guaranteed not to rub off. He re-colours complete leather lounge suites for Domayne so I have not worries about the quality of his work.

Which business did you use?

I just gave mine to a professional leather repairer. He stripped it completely and re-did it all black. It cost me $100 to get it done and its guaranteed not to rub off. He re-colours complete leather lounge suites for Domayne so I have not worries about the quality of his work.

wow $100 that's really cheap, what's the name of the place he works at? do he have a website?

yeh that sounds good!
might ring up my local leather place

I used BM Leather Creations in Richmond to get mine dyed all black. Cost $150 cash, with haggling!

No pics but you'd never know this wheel wasn't always black. :D

wow $100 that's really cheap, what's the name of the place he works at? do he have a website?

The guy who did it has a business in Wollongong. I think its a franchise but his work is awesome.
the website is www.newliferepairs.com.au

I'll post up a photo of mine tomorrow.

Here are the photos of mine after the re-colouring.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll32/wollongongVerada/SL370652.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll32/wollongongVerada/SL370654.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll32/wollongongVerada/SL370657.jpg

Im pretty sure there is a stinge of red on the bottom of that wheel. 2nd pic.

Im pretty sure there is a stinge of red on the bottom of that wheel. 2nd pic.


yep....definately looks like a tinge of red....

Does look a bit red. Checked it today and you definatly cant see red at all. Maybe cause when I took the photo it was pitch black and a very bright flash.

Flash does funny things to photos of interior parts. If you can't see it in real life I wouldn't stress.

Best looking dye of a Ralliart wheel I've seen! Looks just as good as my stock all-black Momo wheel.

That is one brilliant job. It matches the existing colour of the wheel (slight very dark grey) perfectly! Even under the exposing harshness of camera flash (which even makes all the airbag covers seem to mis-match).

that is one hot wheel!

Yeah it looked pimp when he was around brads putting it on, and felt really good as well

Best looking dye of a Ralliart wheel I've seen! Looks just as good as my stock all-black Momo wheel.

Pfft mines better...:P

I got mine done by the same company.. I got a mate that has the franchise is Sydney..:)

Awesome job.. Best money spent.. Its actually colour matched to the grey. Every thinks the wheels are black but they are actually grey..:)

True that, the wheel that came with my TL LE is black, but the Ralliart wheel that I bought for my Verada was a dark grey (plus the red bits of course).

What does everyone think would be a decent price to pay for one of these wheels (uncolour-coded)? I've seen them on eBay starting at $100 and with a buy it now price of $150. Is this reasonable or a little steep?

Also can anyone recommend a place in Melbourne that does a good job of dying these other than the place in Richmond mentioned a page back? Mainly just interested to know if anyone else in Melbourne got their's done professionally for less than $150.

It is what it is. I paid $40 for mine during the group buy, best price on eBay these days is around $100.

It is what it is. I paid $40 for mine during the group buy, best price on eBay these days is around $100.

Mine is sitting on my desk atm waiting for dye money - $80 off ebay. *with* momo badge - Mitch :)

What does everyone think would be a decent price to pay for one of these wheels (uncolour-coded)? I've seen them on eBay starting at $100 and with a buy it now price of $150. Is this reasonable or a little steep?

If you want one, ~$100 seems to be the going rate. Remember, the only other place to buy it from is Mitsubishi themselves, and it's 10x the price. It's not as good as the $40 that some of us paid, but that was basically at cost price.

Even at $100, its still cheaper than most aftermarket wheels out there, and is a ****load better

i know its probably already been addressed, but im too tired to read every page to find out.

does the cruise control button/arm thingy from a tj exec go with this wheel? if so is it an easy plugin? i really want one, but use cruise control all the time and wouldnt like to give it up.

The MOMO impoter in Sydney is Auto Tech. They sell them brand new for $350..:) Mits $850 and fleabay around $100.. looks like your only option..:)

does the cruise control button/arm thingy from a tj exec go with this wheel? if so is it an easy plugin? i really want one, but use cruise control all the time and wouldnt like to give it up.

Fits fine.

Got mine on eBay for $100 recently. I just wanted the great looks, but having driven with it, I feel it makes a real tangible difference to steering precision - probably because it's so good at communicating exactly where the steering wheel is at all times, by means of the various shapes and sections.

Highly recommended!