Hey guys, in the process of changing the wheel over (yes I know could have put this in an existing thread, want quicker responses than an old thread will give), got it all back together, all connected as it was when I took it out, but now the SRS light remains static, doesn't go off after a few seconds as per usual.

Has anyone come across this before, if I leave it for a while should it eventually turn off, or is it indicating a problem I need to attend to if I want the airbag to work in the event of an accident?

I want to take the car out tonight, don't really want to be driving with the SRS light on, but the connections all appear fine, I've triple checked it all....

Help? :confused:

if the light comes on and stays on, it is ment to indicate a fault in the system.

but it wasnt staying on before the wheel changeover was it?

might suggest removing the neg terminal on the battery again leave it for a few mins and then put it back on - might 'reset' the SRS system of sorts.

might have also knocked by mistake a connection or a wire out from somewhere when doing the change over

not much help i know, but if it was working before you took the wheel off and now its not... then it would suggest something has moved or is not connected correctly - and yes i read that you have triple checked everything.

if you take the car out, and have an accident and the airbags do not deploy in an instance at which they shoulda done - coz of the SRS light being on.. then i dont think your insurance would pay out on a claim..

also - side thought here, arnt airbags spose to be serviced every 10years or so?
i heard somewhere that they should be checked - it might be saying that its that time and might not actually indicate fault in the system..

Check the airbag connections, check the airbag fuse

but it wasnt staying on before the wheel changeover was it?
No, only came on now. When I was pulling the wheel off the steering column moved :shock:, thought I might have broken something then, but it was just the teeth that slipped on the adjustment, so I pulled the leaver back down and adjusted it back up, surely that wouldn't bust anything, its supposed to move.


might suggest removing the neg terminal on the battery again leave it for a few mins and then put it back on - might 'reset' the SRS system of sorts.
Had it off for 10-15 mins now, will go out and connect it again in a minute, see if anything different happens.


might have also knocked by mistake a connection or a wire out from somewhere when doing the change over
Checked all the connection wires, the AirBag wire is hard wired in somewhere behind the wheel, but its all firm and the connections are clean.


if you take the car out, and have an accident and the airbags do not deploy in an instance at which they shoulda done - coz of the SRS light being on.. then i dont think your insurance would pay out on a claim..
Hmm...how could they confirm the accident didn't cause the fault? Sometimes airbags don't work from new, sometimes accidents don't set them off, don't see how I could be refused the claim because of it.


also - side thought here, arnt airbags spose to be serviced every 10years or so?
i heard somewhere that they should be checked - it might be saying that its that time and might not actually indicate fault in the system..
I've heard about that, newer Falcons are supposed to be done every 50k or something now :nuts: Not sure, but I doubt the SRS light would display to tell me that, the car is in its 11th year now.


Check the airbag connections, check the airbag fuse
The fuse! Didn't think of that, fuse box in the cabin? How do I tell which one it is?

Does anything else operate on the SRS fuse that I could check for functionality?

its the interior fuse box, the one withthe steering wheel, second one 10A iirc.

You might have shorted something taking it off.

If it blows again, take it to an auto elec to get looked at. dont replace with a bigger fuse.

Try swapping it with the horn fuse next to it and see if the horn works

take it to a mitsu dealer, they can reset it on the spot. i had to replace a clock-spring for another member and only mitsu can clear the code.

when replacing the wheel did u move the clockspring?
Is the clockspring the thing around the rod the wheel bolts onto? That all the wires connect up to, if so I turn it a little bit, but not much, maybe an 1/8 of a turn by accident? Would that be enough to do it? If its just a code that needs resetting that'll be good.

Do they charge?


its the interior fuse box, the one withthe steering wheel, second one 10A iirc.

You might have shorted something taking it off.

If it blows again, take it to an auto elec to get looked at. dont replace with a bigger fuse.

Try swapping it with the horn fuse next to it and see if the horn works
Fuse is all good, swapped it with the horn, horn still functions.

Rhys

Put the other wheel back on. SRS might not be grounding correctly through the new wheel. You'll know for sure

Cheers
Blake

Rhys

Put the other wheel back on. SRS might not be grounding correctly through the new wheel. You'll know for sure

Cheers
Blake
Thanks for the suggestion.

From what I can tell it shouldn't be earthing through the wheel its self, the only part of the air bag that touches the phycial wheel are 2 plastic lugs, the rest is on brackets screwed into the wheel, which are earthed seperatly. The same earth earths the Horn and Cruise, and they both work. I might try it tomorrow, but I'll run it past mitsu first. I've gotta go out soon, contemplating driving it or the TR tonight atm.

Rhys

You did the entire operation with the battery disconnected, yes?

You did the entire operation with the battery disconnected, yes?
Of course :)

Is the clockspring the thing around the rod the wheel bolts onto? That all the wires connect up to, if so I turn it a little bit, but not much, maybe an 1/8 of a turn by accident? Would that be enough to do it? If its just a code that needs resetting that'll be good.

Yes that is the clockspring. Apparently they are fragile and have to align as per the illustration below. Perhaps the bump knocked it out?

I had this happen on my KE about 18 months ago when I replaced the wheel.....

My solution: Remove cluster and take the bulb out. Probably best to listen to other members advice first :)

Yes that is the clockspring. Apparently they are fragile and have to align as per the illustration below. Perhaps the bump knocked it out?
Hmm...Interesting, I checked the steering, turns to full lock each way light it always has, nothing appears to be non-functional. Haven't crashed the car to test the air bag yet, not really sure I want to lol

Hopefully its just the code that needs resetting after bumping the clockspring.

Until I take it to Mitsu on monday, should I avoid driving it where possible given I've got another car anyway, or shouldn't it be a risk?

Mate,
The SRS Light just indicates that the ECU has detected a fault with the SRS system. Chances are that the steering wheel has been the cause and it may just need a reset.

If you have another car and are worried then i would take that intead. Then again, a TR has no airbag and you would be in the same situation (with the Rada) if you had a crashlol.

P.S. Don't have a crash! as i would then feel badlol

Mate,
The SRS Light just indicates that the ECU has detected a fault with the SRS system. Chances are that the steering wheel has been the cause and it may just need a reset.

If you have another car and are worried then i would take that intead. Then again, a TR has no airbag and you would be in the same situation (with the Rada) if you had a crashlol.

P.S. Don't have a crash! as i would then feel badlol

Ended up driving the Verada, air bag didn't go off, and the wheel is awesomeeee. Was gonna take the TR, but deciding taking the one that appears to have a dieing battery out into the early hours of the morning was probably a bad idea too lol

Spoke to Nemesis about it tonight, he thinks it just because I started the car with the air bag off (believe it or not, 1000 times easier to remove a steering wheel with the engine running, god knows why) it detected the open circuit, creating an error code, which just needs resetting by mitsubishi. Makes sense really.

Didn't happen in Omars KJ we did the other day, but then he also has a passenger air bag, which might have changed the results? Who knows. I'll run it by Mitsu monday, get them to reset the code on it for me, and we'll see what happens from there.

Spoke to Nemesis about it tonight, he thinks it just because I started the car with the air bag off (believe it or not, 1000 times easier to remove a steering wheel with the engine running, god knows why) it detected the open circuit, creating an error code, which just needs resetting by mitsubishi. Makes sense really.



Rhys

That's why I asked you whether or not you did the whole operation with the battery disconnected. That included running the engine with the airbag disconnected.
The ECM checks for the problems with air bag soon after you energise it. If the air bag is not there when the system is energised it registers a code. Sounds like a reset and you're done

Blake

get a mitsu dealer to hook their diagnostic sytem up to it, they will be able to clear the fault code if that is what is causing it..

bit off topic sort of.. i know when i detail VY and VZ commodores, if you get the drivers side carpet too wet, the air bag light will come on and has to be reset by a holden dealer as there is a sensor or somthing under the carpet.. its only the later model commmodores that do it..

all they do is plug the computer in and clear the code - takes like 10 seconds..

That's why I asked you whether or not you did the whole operation with the battery disconnected. That included running the engine with the airbag disconnected.
The ECM checks for the problems with air bag soon after you energise it. If the air bag is not there when the system is energised it registers a code. Sounds like a reset and you're done
You know that didn't even register to me when you asked that, I just automatically thought yeah pulled it all apart with the power off. The other thing that threw me is Omar and I did the same thing with his car, yet the SRS light isn't staying on with him. Confusing.

What do I need to ask when I go in. Should I just explain the wheel was changed over during the weekend, but the car was run at one point when the air bag was disconnected, causing and error I need to get reset? I'd be going into the service dept. yeah?

Ringa, its stupid little things like that which make me refuse to own a commodore lol

What do I need to ask when I go in. Should I just explain the wheel was changed over during the weekend, but the car was run at one point when the air bag was disconnected, causing and error I need to get reset? I'd be going into the service dept. yeah?
That pretty much sounds right. Lugo, can you please do me a favour when you go to the service dept? Can you please ask how much they charge to check for error codes when there aren't any signs of any? Thanks.

That pretty much sounds right. Lugo, can you please do me a favour when you go to the service dept? Can you please ask how much they charge to check for error codes when there aren't any signs of any? Thanks.
Will do, I'll PM you or text you when I find out. Should be dropping in tomorrow during my lunch break, don't really want to drive around with SRS in my face for too long.

Excellent Rhys

Hopefully quick and easy!

Cheers mate
Blake

HELP, i just swapped my wheel over, and the SRS light is on, and yes i did start the car with the airbag disconected.
lugo how did you end up fixing it?, taking it to a dealer, or can a mechanic do it? how much did they charge?

HELP, i just swapped my wheel over, and the SRS light is on, and yes i did start the car with the airbag disconected.
lugo how did you end up fixing it?, taking it to a dealer, or can a mechanic do it? how much did they charge?

believe he had Nemesis take it to his TAFE to clear the error code, have you tried disconnecting the battery, reconnect the air bag, reconnect the battery. That might fix it... I did forget to reconnect the airbag one time was kicking myself when i saw the warning light, plugged it back it, light went away but, it was done in the TL.

I believe the code is saved to the computer, thats why during the wheel swapover you are suppose to disconnect the battery, and KEEP IT DISCONNECTED until the airbag is plugged back in...

yeah, but i started the car to drive around the block, to make sure the wheel was perfectly straight, i knew it would generate a fault, but i didnt think it would save the code even after the fault has been fixed

Hey my manual says if you turn the key from off to on (just before start) 10 times it will clear the light if there is no fault with system and you made it come on. mine came on once when i had a low battery and got a jump start. also any auto electritian can do it, mine cost $30 at an auto sparky before i read about the ignition trick.

You need the MUTT to clear the SRS code, this is the only way I know of to clear it

You can try the ignition thing but I highly doubt it

If you take it to Mits, they will most likely refuse to do it unless you replace the bag as they will assume the bag is faulty

Pity you are not in Vic as I have access to a MUTT

Im just quoting the owners manual i have, but the auto sparkys over here have the connection, just plugged it in, cleared it then we checked to see if it came back on. could you leave the battery off again and reset it so it relearns with SRS connected? or do SRS fault codes stay?

I went to Mitsubishi, they cleared the fault code, charged me $0

You need the MUTT to clear the SRS code, this is the only way I know of to clear it

You can try the ignition thing but I highly doubt it

If you take it to Mits, they will most likely refuse to do it unless you replace the bag as they will assume the bag is faulty

Pity you are not in Vic as I have access to a MUTT

had a feeling i may need to do this, dads got a friend who is a mechanic, he says he has one, ill drop it to him saturday morning, he could prob check why my ABS light is also on (unrelated)