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Eddo
29-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Has anyone had this? When turning ignition on, before starting the engine in morning there is a tapping/knocking noise from the lower dash/console for about 3 seconds only. Its only when car has been left overnight. Thought it might be the fuel pump but as this is in the gas tank it seens unlikely....any ideas?

seadevil
30-05-2008, 09:37 AM
yeah mine does that. same noise for same time...never been concerned over it though

TJ Sports
30-05-2008, 10:53 AM
does it sound like rubber rubbing on somthing, i think its the climate control doors. try turing the heater controls when the noise stops and it should make that nosie.

danthevrxman
30-05-2008, 11:08 AM
sure it's not just your fuel pump priming up?

Ricbec
30-05-2008, 04:48 PM
sure it's not just your fuel pump priming up?





Has anyone had this? When turning ignition on, before starting the engine in morning there is a tapping/knocking noise from the lower dash/console for about 3 seconds only. Its only when car has been left overnight. Thought it might be the fuel pump but as this is in the gas tank it seens unlikely....any ideas?


answer your question?

danthevrxman
30-05-2008, 05:31 PM
answer your question?

thanks for pointing that out, i only skim read posts

seadevil
30-05-2008, 05:57 PM
out of curiosity...my car is an auto. Does anyone have this same noise with the manual?

Blue 380
30-05-2008, 06:11 PM
out of curiosity...my car is an auto. Does anyone have this same noise with the manual?
I have a manual & mine makes exactly the same noise when left overnight. I was starting to get concerned about it & was going to get Mitsubishi to look at it.

zarbs
30-05-2008, 06:21 PM
does it sound like rubber rubbing on somthing, i think its the climate control doors. try turing the heater controls when the noise stops and it should make that nosie.

This used to bug me for a while but I got in one morning and pulled the side panel off as my wife started up the engine and, as TJ Sports noted, the noise came at the same time the climate control system started moving the flaps inside the control unit at the rear of the console. Interestingly, I only hear this on the coldest of nights/mornings as I garage my car nightly. If I left it in the open the noise is more prevalent. I also noted that the front de-mist icon was present on the LCD display at these times also so the control system is probably rotating the the flap to direct warm/conditioned air to the screen to prevent fogging. Cheers...

Zarbs

PS. Auto VRX Series 2...

seadevil
31-05-2008, 01:03 PM
ah...another question solved then. http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/images/smilies/abiggrin.gif

Grubco
31-05-2008, 02:49 PM
I don't recall hearing that noise on my car, but it's always garaged and not used everyday.
I'll keep an ear out for it next time.

Hoon
31-05-2008, 05:20 PM
Hi Guys, this is a known problem with mitsu dealers... Go speak with them. now the answer.

I is a design flaw a number of heater coils, easy fix the just replace the heater core with a newer line and problem solved. Should be a 100% warranty fix. you will loose your ride for a day thowe.

I hope this helps and know one else had already stated this.

Blue 380
31-05-2008, 07:14 PM
Hi Guys, this is a known problem with mitsu dealers... Go speak with them. now the answer.

I is a design flaw a number of heater coils, easy fix the just replace the heater core with a newer line and problem solved. Should be a 100% warranty fix. you will loose your ride for a day thowe.

I hope this helps and know one else had already stated this.
Thanks for the answer Hoon.... I will get mine back to Mitsubishi.

zarbs
01-06-2008, 09:10 AM
Hi Guys, this is a known problem with mitsu dealers... Go speak with them. now the answer.

I is a design flaw a number of heater coils, easy fix the just replace the heater core with a newer line and problem solved. Should be a 100% warranty fix. you will loose your ride for a day thowe.

I hope this helps and know one else had already stated this.

Sounds like my answer was not the full solution. Looks like I may need the new heater coil and the flap movement is just happening at the same time. I'll check mine with the dealer at my 45k which is due in 4k. Thanks Hoon for the info...

Zarbs

zarbs
01-06-2008, 01:40 PM
Hi Guys, this is a known problem with mitsu dealers... Go speak with them. now the answer.

I is a design flaw a number of heater coils, easy fix the just replace the heater core with a newer line and problem solved. Should be a 100% warranty fix. you will loose your ride for a day thowe.

I hope this helps and know one else had already stated this.

I'd be interested to know what noise everyone hears in their situation. Mine distinctly sounds like a rubber against plastic or metal squeak for a very short time (2 seconds max.) and then it is gone until the next startup on a real cold night. Most times I start up every morning with no sound at all. When it does happen it comes the instant the engine kicks into life. Doesn't sound like a expansion noise you'd associate with a heater coil getting hot coolant and expanding in the housing or am I getting this wrong. My noise relates very closely to the movement of the air control flaps at startup. Hence my previous post.

I don't want these guys pulling things to bits if its not required because that's where those annoying rattles come from down the track because the location of the bolts was to hard to get a torque wrench to and they didn't bother. Ergo - bolt gets looser and the parts rattle or squeak with road bumps etc. If it's not a big issue I might let it ride as is.

What does your noise sound like?

Zarbs...

Hoon
01-06-2008, 07:08 PM
I'd be interested to know what noise everyone hears in their situation. Mine distinctly sounds like a rubber against plastic or metal squeak for a very short time (2 seconds max.) and then it is gone until the next startup on a real cold night. Most times I start up every morning with no sound at all. When it does happen it comes the instant the engine kicks into life. Doesn't sound like a expansion noise you'd associate with a heater coil getting hot coolant and expanding in the housing or am I getting this wrong. My noise relates very closely to the movement of the air control flaps at startup. Hence my previous post.

I don't want these guys pulling things to bits if its not required because that's where those annoying rattles come from down the track because the location of the bolts was to hard to get a torque wrench to and they didn't bother. Ergo - bolt gets looser and the parts rattle or squeak with road bumps etc. If it's not a big issue I might let it ride as is.

What does your noise sound like?

Zarbs...

Zarbs you do have a very good point, this is what my dealer has told me is the cause and solution. I do agree that it is a rubber on plastic noise and it would be the rubber expanding etc..... Mine is due to be fixed this week coming I will let you how they go

Eddo
07-06-2008, 04:53 PM
Thanks guys, what you say makes sense. Mine definitely sounds like a rubber/plastic part moving against something else. Let us know how you get on with the Mitsu dealer.

Eddo

SH00T
07-06-2008, 06:19 PM
I get that Plasticky kinda cog slippin, sorta vent creakin, mostly mal-adjustment noise as well.:badgrin:

Hoon
13-06-2008, 04:01 PM
Hi Gents,

Got my car back yesterday problem solved, very happy heater even works better now. Did loose my car for 2 days thowe :cry:. New exhaust will fix that.

Cheers.

Eddo
16-06-2008, 07:07 PM
Hi Hoon, so what exactly was the problem then and how did they fix it?

Hoon
17-06-2008, 01:31 PM
Hi Hoon, so what exactly was the problem then and how did they fix it?

Short answer, this is a ticket item meaning that if you visit your local mitsu dealer and describe the fault they can look it up for you.

Long answer, Incorrect adjustment of the climate control system internal workings coupled with heater core problems. Can't really say any more than that just what I was told.

I hope this helps :rant:

Eddo
18-06-2008, 08:50 AM
Yeah thanks I'll get her booked in.
Eddo

Blue 380
29-06-2008, 05:21 PM
I rang Mits to get mine looked at, its booked in for this Tuesday. When I decribed it to the service guy who answered the phone, he had no idea what I was talking about & had never heard of the problem before.

HOON: Can you tell me which dealer fixed yours??? That way I can get my local to contact yours if they dont know what the problem is.

Hoon
30-06-2008, 03:16 PM
I rang Mits to get mine looked at, its booked in for this Tuesday. When I decribed it to the service guy who answered the phone, he had no idea what I was talking about & had never heard of the problem before.

HOON: Can you tell me which dealer fixed yours??? That way I can get my local to contact yours if they dont know what the problem is.

Kings ballarat, they contacted Camberwell I believe mate

Blue 380
30-06-2008, 04:23 PM
Kings ballarat, they contacted Camberwell I believe mate
Thanks heaps for that.

Eddo
04-07-2008, 06:16 PM
Hi guys, just got car back from local Perth Mitsu dealer, they cannot find the problem and were going to charge me $115 for looking - until I told them about your experiences in Victoria and gave them the phone number of Kings Ballarat who confirmed what Hoon said. I also rang Mitsu central who weren't able to help and didn't know of the issue. Did anyone else get any further details of what the problem is called etc?

Hoon
04-07-2008, 09:12 PM
Hi guys, just got car back from local Perth Mitsu dealer, they cannot find the problem and were going to charge me $115 for looking - until I told them about your experiences in Victoria and gave them the phone number of Kings Ballarat who confirmed what Hoon said. I also rang Mitsu central who weren't able to help and didn't know of the issue. Did anyone else get any further details of what the problem is called etc?

Sorry Eddo, wish you could have had a better experience plug on with it. If they called kings they probably would have spoken with Michael who is my local service guy, he should of been able to give them the mitsubishi ticket for the issue etc. Let me know how you go I was hopping that this would help people not irritate them.

Blue 380
05-07-2008, 08:31 AM
Hi guys, just got car back from local Perth Mitsu dealer, they cannot find the problem and were going to charge me $115 for looking - until I told them about your experiences in Victoria and gave them the phone number of Kings Ballarat who confirmed what Hoon said. I also rang Mitsu central who weren't able to help and didn't know of the issue. Did anyone else get any further details of what the problem is called etc?
They looked at my car last Tuesday & had to order the part so it is getting fixed next week. According to the service invoice, they believe the cause is faulty heat motor gears.

Eddo
05-07-2008, 10:28 AM
Cheers Hoon & Blue 380 you've been a great help. My dealer is going to ring Kings on Monday!

Blue 380
14-07-2008, 08:16 AM
Mitsubishi had my car for 2 days last week to fix the noise in the console. Went to start my car this morning (very cold morning) and it still makes the noise except it went for about 5 or 6 seconds which is longer than normal. So not only they havent fixed the problem, they have damaged the bottom or the leather steering wheel as well (looks like they've rubbed something sharp along it which has caused a series of slices in the leather). So now I am bluing with them about the damage to the wheel & they will have to have the car back to fix the noise...not happy!!!

Hoon
14-07-2008, 09:23 PM
Mitsubishi had my car for 2 days last week to fix the noise in the console. Went to start my car this morning (very cold morning) and it still makes the noise except it went for about 5 or 6 seconds which is longer than normal. So not only they havent fixed the problem, they have damaged the bottom or the leather steering wheel as well (looks like they've rubbed something sharp along it which has caused a series of slices in the leather). So now I am bluing with them about the damage to the wheel & they will have to have the car back to fix the noise...not happy!!!

Unbelieveable, mate I am feeling for you! Sounds like your local dealer needs to pull up their socs. I can happly attest mine is fine now "Ballarat gets real cold, as anyone who has been here will attest".

I do have a different concern, since installing the K&N my internal fan seems to sneeze under load due to air pressure anyone having this problem?

Knotched
15-07-2008, 05:18 AM
I do have a different concern, since installing the K&N my internal fan seems to sneeze under load due to air pressure anyone having this problem?

:eh:

Did you fit it with the 90mm air intake?

Because the K&N is made for the US 90mm air intake. Blue 380 had problems using it in the std OZ intake and sold it to me. Once he fitted the larger intake there was no problems.

Hoon
16-07-2008, 07:48 AM
:eh:

Did you fit it with the 90mm air intake?

Because the K&N is made for the US 90mm air intake. Blue 380 had problems using it in the std OZ intake and sold it to me. Once he fitted the larger intake there was no problems.

No I haven't fitted the bigger intake, would this really help?

Blue 380
16-07-2008, 08:06 AM
No I haven't fitted the bigger intake, would this really help?
Definetely. As mentioned, I had a K & N with the standard intake & it ceated a flat spot. Got the 90mm & never looked back. For $47 delivered, you cant wrong. Knotched had it dyno'd & it gave 13 (?) HP atw. Theres about 20 threads on intakes and K & N's so you should check them out.

Hoon
16-07-2008, 11:33 AM
Definetely. As mentioned, I had a K & N with the standard intake & it ceated a flat spot. Got the 90mm & never looked back. For $47 delivered, you cant wrong. Knotched had it dyno'd & it gave 13 (?) HP atw. Theres about 20 threads on intakes and K & N's so you should check them out.

where do i get it for $47???

Blue 380
16-07-2008, 01:28 PM
where do i get it for $47???
Check out this link:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56400&page=2
The third post down on that page explains the process & part number.
For help with fitting, try this link:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58821

Hoon
16-07-2008, 04:24 PM
Thanks blue, champ!

Blue 380
17-07-2008, 03:26 PM
My car was back at Mits today to try again & fix the heater noise & also look at the damage they caused to the steering wheel last time they had it. They have told me both the heater part & new steering wheel have been ordered from Japan & they will fit both when they arrive. I am just relieved they are replacing the steering wheel without me having to blue with them about it.

Hoon
17-07-2008, 08:52 PM
My car was back at Mits today to try again & fix the heater noise & also look at the damage they caused to the steering wheel last time they had it. They have told me both the heater part & new steering wheel have been ordered from Japan & they will fit both when they arrive. I am just relieved they are replacing the steering wheel without me having to blue with them about it.

Nice blue it will take about 2 weeks, my parts ironically the same as yours took about 2 weeks to come in. Good luck with take 2!

Blue 380
01-09-2008, 05:05 PM
The car went back on Friday as the heater part & new steering wheel arrived from Japan. Good news is they replaced the steering wheel under warranty....Bad news, they replaced a part in the heater however it still makes the rubbing noise on start up in the mornings. Mits have now had the car 3 times to fix the heater noise and after replacing 2 different parts, they still havent fixed it. I'm starting to get very frustrated!!!

Grubco
01-09-2008, 07:17 PM
At this rate, they'll have replaced everything else in the car first!
Seriously though, sorry to hear about the ongoing dramas.

Eddo
07-12-2008, 09:11 AM
Hi having started this thread, I thought I'd give you the latest. Having spoken several times to my dealer in Perth and to Mitsubishi themselves it turns out that this is a recognised issue after all, it is confirmed as the aircon unit re-configuring itself from the settings you used the day before to the new day's settings. HOWEVER there is no recommended fix as it is considered to be an operational noise! I guess I'll have to live with it which is annoying because it sounds like a simple squirt of WD40 would fix it.

zarbs
07-12-2008, 05:55 PM
I've been running with air con off and the windows down lately because of the nice weather. Startups don't have the noise in this mode of operation as there is nothing to reconfigure in the system - it's all off. Eddo's explanation is what I saw when I did some under dash checking at the time it first got my attention. I've learned to live with it...

Grubco
07-12-2008, 06:16 PM
I've been running with air con off and the windows down lately because of the nice weather. Startups don't have the noise in this mode of operation as there is nothing to reconfigure in the system - it's all off. Eddo's explanation is what I saw when I did some under dash checking at the time it first got my attention. I've learned to live with it...
Is that why I never heard this noise? I always turn my aircon off before turning the engine off, as I'd heard people say (back in the day) that starting the engine with aircon (and other powerful appliances) already on, could cause damage. Perhaps that's an 80s thing, but I always stood by it. If it has no effect nowadays, I'll leave mine on oneday and see if I hear it then next day.

Ers
09-12-2008, 09:52 AM
that starting the engine with aircon (and other powerful appliances) already on, could cause damage. Perhaps that's an 80s thing, but I always stood by it. If it has no effect nowadays, I'll leave mine on oneday and see if I hear it then next day.

It shouldnt cause any damage.

When you put the key onto 'start' everything electrical that isnt essential (climate, radio, power windows etc) has its power cut until the car kicks over.

Though some cars dont kill the headlights, which isnt great to try and start a car with headlights on, but wont damage it - just your battery gets a bit more of a workout.