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KMAN
24-06-2008, 11:54 AM
Im thinking about selling my 04 TL ES manual with 120,000 kms, and I was wondering whats a reasonable price to ask.

matty.c
24-06-2008, 12:04 PM
10-11k i'd say.. if all books done, and in general good order.. the only thing really is going for it is that it's manual..

GT-Pete
24-06-2008, 12:19 PM
10-11k i'd say.. if all books done, and in general good order.. the only thing really is going for it is that it's manual..

I thought autos were more expensive.... :nuts: Does the resale value change things or something?

NORBY
24-06-2008, 12:36 PM
I thought autos were more expensive.... :nuts: Does the resale value change things or something?
autos cost more ot buy but manuals have better resale

GT-Pete
24-06-2008, 12:36 PM
Well that sucks for new car buyers... lucky im not one of them.....

matty.c
24-06-2008, 01:21 PM
yeh manual V6 manual's especially in the later TL/TW is more of a rarity.. they are a bit more sought after.. not just the old boring auto..

(not dissing the auto.. i have a 4spd tippy afterall)

Bain
24-06-2008, 01:54 PM
Im thinking about selling my 04 TL ES manual with 120,000 kms, and I was wondering whats a reasonable price to ask.

8k.. (if youre lucky)

Youve got 2 things going against you.

The TL shape and fuel prices..

MitchellO
24-06-2008, 01:59 PM
8k.. (if youre lucky)

Youve got 2 things going against you.

The TL shape and fuel prices..

Yeah, and a fair few kms for an 04. Still as has been mentioned, the manual should get you a bit more than an equivalent auto.

Good luck with it though mate, hope you get what you need for it.

Lugo
24-06-2008, 02:05 PM
The TL shape and fuel prices..
They're actually going for it more than against it. The TL shape now makes it look like a newer car than it really is, and it fits in with other new cars now, so its not looked at so much as a bad design anymore.

As for fuel prices, well what big V6 sedan gets better economy than a manual Magna? If you need a big car and good economy, can't go past the Magna's really.

I'm saying $10k-ish

vegas18
24-06-2008, 02:28 PM
I was offered 10,500 as a trade on a brand new lancer. But no-one here is keen on buying mine. Other than that I was offered 8,500 trade on any car under $18,000, and 9,500 on any car over 18k.

Bain
24-06-2008, 02:41 PM
They're actually going for it more than against it. The TL shape now makes it look like a newer car than it really is, and it fits in with other new cars now, so its not looked at so much as a bad design anymore.

What other cars does it fit in with?



As for fuel prices, well what big V6 sedan gets better economy than a manual Magna? If you need a big car and good economy, can't go past the Magna's really.

I'm saying $10k-ish
Youre talking from the point of view that the end buyer knows the fuel usage and economy of a magna.. Im pretty sure we are in the minority of users that know anything about the magna..

Example: Average Joe and Jan who are a young couple with a child on the way wouldnt know all that much about magna's except for the fact that the makers of the vehicle "went out of business".. Not exactly a car you would want to buy in terms of getting parts etc..

I of course know that Mitsu has to keep parts for the next 5 years, but average joe wouldnt know that.


The car only appeals to a 2% demographic (if that). In that 2% there is probably 3000+ of these cars being sold privately or sitting in car yards with "Crazy Deals are Crazies" slapped across the front windscreen.

Edit: For your viewing pleasure.

Carsales Dealer results (http://carsales.com.au/used-cars/MITSUBISHI/MAGNA/dealer-results.aspx?N=4294964597%200%204294964374%2042949 33261%204294928893%204294926240%204294928357%20429 4926368%204294930215%201216&State=All%20States&distance=25&Make=MITSUBISHI&Model=MAGNA&Ns=pCar_Price_Decimal%7C0%7C%7CpCar_StatusSort_Int 32%7C1&state_id=0&sort_type=3)

Dont forget the markup these cars have on them. So take off anywhere from 1k - 2k and you now have ranges from 6k - 8k

Gerard
24-06-2008, 02:50 PM
Bain, why are all of your posts here so negative and harsh, everytime i see you post, your always so mean, judgmental and opinionated :cry:

I'm not complaining, it's a good read. You just come off as a very angry person!

But we know you're a nice person inside Milton, and you just need a hug

((hug))

Lugo
24-06-2008, 02:51 PM
Fits in well when its parked next to a new Commodore or Falcon, Camry, Aurion, etc. Looks years younger than equivalent models in the above cars.

I take your point on the second though, you'd need to do some research before you realised the differences. That said, your a damn fool if you spend that much money on a car without researching into it first.

As for your car sales results, Aus wide according to your search there is 3 TL ES Manuals, the cheapest of which is $8650 with 180k's on the odo, the following two are $12,500 and $14,990 with 78k's and 72k's respectively. Knock off your $1-2k margin for being a dealership and its not unfair at all to expect ~$10k for this TL Es.

Edit: In your defense there is a is a 2003 TL ES Manual with 76k on the clock being sold privately at a list price of $8700, but that's not to say its in the same condition (presuming this one's a goodin) and it is a year older but has lower k's. Maybe $8-9k would be reasonable to ask, I'd list it for $9.5-10k first up though. Doesn't hurt to be optimistic :P

Bain
24-06-2008, 03:08 PM
Bain, why are all of your posts here so negative and harsh, everytime i see you post, your always so mean, judgmental and opinionated :cry:

I'm not complaining, it's a good read. You just come off as a very angry person!

But we know you're a nice person inside Milton, and you just need a hug

((hug))
Shh G.

I get my hugs from my anger management councillor.

I generally only reply to posts where i think it would be of benefit, negative or not.. Most of the time its to question ones opinion/knowledge of whatever it is they are replying to.

Everyone knows im nice, i just dont tolerate stupid people. :)

Anyhow, its rare these days to actually have a debate with someone who doesnt resort to flaming.. So thanks to Lugo for sharing your opinions in an appropriate manner.


Fits in well when its parked next to a new Commodore or Falcon, Camry, Aurion, etc. Looks years younger than equivalent models in the above cars.
The sales of the other respective cars would tell you differently.



I take your point on the second though, you'd need to do some research before you realised the differences. That said, your a damn fool if you spend that much money on a car without researching into it first.
True dat.


As for your car sales results, Aus wide according to your search there is 3 TL ES Manuals, the cheapest of which is $8650 with 180k's on the odo, the following two are $12,500 and $14,990 with 78k's and 72k's respectively. Knock off your $1-2k margin for being a dealership and its not unfair at all to expect ~$10k for this TL Es.
Again this is an assumption that those looking for one of these cars is after a manual. If they are specifically after a manual it reduces the amount of buyers considerably. I think there was a figure floating around of about 15% of all of the TL shape magnas were manual. That shows there was never a demand for them.



Doesn't hurt to be optimistic :P
Correct, doesnt hurt to be optimistic. But then again, its no good getting your hopes up knowing that its a luck and a prayer that someone out there wants your car..

The glass is half empfull

KMAN
24-06-2008, 05:39 PM
If it sells,it sells were only selling it cause we bought a 8 seater for the missis and I get the magna if it dosent sell. Im thinking track car.:badgrin:

6sik6trimming
24-06-2008, 05:50 PM
would yas swap for 7 seater and a couple grand cash mate


scrap that i just reread your thread and you have bought one already

TL-R
24-06-2008, 05:53 PM
yeh manual V6 manual's especially in the later TL/TW is more of a rarity.. they are a bit more sought after.. not just the old boring auto..

(not dissing the auto.. i have a 4spd tippy afterall)

There is a reason they are 'rare'. It's because the demographic targeted for this type of car wants an automatic.

I think it will hamper the efforts to sell it rather than enhance.

matty.c
25-06-2008, 04:53 AM
They're actually going for it more than against it. The TL shape now makes it look like a newer car than it really is, and it fits in with other new cars now, so its not looked at so much as a bad design anymore.

As for fuel prices, well what big V6 sedan gets better economy than a manual Magna? If you need a big car and good economy, can't go past the Magna's really.

I'm saying $10k-ish

camry? aurion? :) just to name 2 (but i am toyota biased) lol..

matty.c
25-06-2008, 04:57 AM
If it sells,it sells were only selling it cause we bought a 8 seater for the missis and I get the magna if it dosent sell. Im thinking track car.:badgrin:

lol!!! there are much much better basis to have a track car than this..

Lugo
25-06-2008, 06:52 AM
camry? aurion? :) just to name 2 (but i am toyota biased) lol..
Camry's a boring drive (doesn't come in a V6 either if you get a newer one), and the Aurion doesn't come in manual.

GT-Pete
25-06-2008, 09:24 AM
I think the aurion's look pretty sporty, not sure how they drive though I've never been in one.... Love the front bars on them

KMAN
25-06-2008, 11:21 AM
I think the aurion's look pretty sporty, not sure how they drive though I've never been in one.... Love the front bars on them



Yeah i must say i like them more than a 380 (looks anyway)

Boozer
25-06-2008, 12:44 PM
I think the aurion's look pretty sporty, not sure how they drive though I've never been in one.... Love the front bars on them

Wanna know how the Aurion drives? Have a look at this video clip that was taken at Heathcote (VIC) a few weeks back.

http://s282.photobucket.com/albums/kk253/My_Album_13/?action=view&current=M2U00338.flv

The Aurion is a nice looking car, pitty it didn't come in manual, or I would have considered buying one instead of the TL.