The engine story so far:
3.0 TF tiptronic
Pacemaker ceramic extractors
Cat back Redback system
EZ Boy TB
RPW manifold
K&N pod in cold air box
Haltech Platinum Interceptor
6 NGK Iridium spark plugs
Barry's fuel rail, earth and gasket kits

So I need cams next. Who out there is running Tighe cams on a 3.0 of similar spec? What were the results? What did the cams cost?

I want Tighe cams but want to be sure I get the right profiles. Not worried about a slightly lumpy idle. But don't want a screaming top end at the total expense of low end wack.

Edit: And I will be porting and polishing heads at the same time as installing cams

honestly if you call them and tell them exactly what your after they will be able to recommend the correct profile for your application.. cams is what they do :)

Martin I'm sure you knew this was coming, but manaual conversion please:P

Seriously though, if you're sticking with the auto, that really does limit what sort of profile you can run that will be still have reasonable driveability.

Though I spose in theory you can use the tiptronic function like a manual to combat the effects of a "big" cam by hanging onto gears a bit longer, sometimes cruising in a lower gear etc.

What's the CR on the 3L? I suspect you'll find like the 3.5Ls, you'll need some headwork and higher CR to make use of anything beyond a "mild" cam upgrade.

Martin I'm sure you knew this was coming, but manaual conversion please:P

Seriously though, if you're sticking with the auto, that really does limit what sort of profile you can run that will be steal have reasonable driveability.

Though I spose in theory you can use the tiptronic function like a manual to combat the effects of a "big" cam by hanging onto gears a bit longer, sometimes cruising in a lower gear etc.

What's the CR on the 3L? I suspect you'll find like the 3.5Ls, you'll need some headwork and higher CR to make use of anything beyond a "mild" cam upgrade.
Forgot to say, it's a given that I will be porting and polishing heads. Change to CR will come much later in the year along with forged Cosworth pistons.

Can't do manual conversion - my wife can only drive auto's. Hence the thought that the cam does not need to be too radical or it just won't work with the torque converter (learnt this through bitter experience 25 odd years ago when I wacked a monster cam in my first Brock auto lol


honestly if you call them and tell them exactly what your after they will be able to recommend the correct profile for your application.. cams is what they do :)
So that's what you did????

in the past if i was trying to have a set of cams taylored to my specific requirements yes.. most definitly.. did that with my G200 (bored stroked out to 2.4 with forged high comp pistons, dual 40mm sidedrafts, stainless valves, dual valve springs, mass port work, and custom pipes (1 7/8th 36" long primaries, with a stepped merge collector) 2.5" mandril system, in my olg TG gemini.. they made me a cam with 108 deg lobe centre seperation, around 11.8mm lift in, 10.5mm out, and about 238 deg @ 50"

was one fat cam for a gem gem.. ran 13.9 @ 98mph all day long..

having a few mates that worked there helps also..

a place worth calling is also Camtech in NSW.. bit cheaper..

tighe cams are great! just ring them up, tell them what you have, what mods you have, and they will ring you back in an hour with a quote and what recogmended size. now i have 262 degree cams, which arent installed yet, but they suggested i could go all the way up to 270. but this is with a 3.5 ltr and they said with the 270 cams, the bottom end would be rough :). i have an auto as well hehe. but end of the year hopefully will be manual. hope this helps.

EDIT: for reference in a 3.5ltr the standard cams are 248 degree duration.

mike

martin, before you go porting and polishing see my post here (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=882931&postcount=16)regarding porting and polishing the magna heads. Also, i am led to belive that Tighe cams arent the best option to go with. RPW are just Tighe cams re-sold.

martin, before you go porting and polishing see my post here (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=882931&postcount=16)regarding porting and polishing the magna heads. Also, i am led to belive that Tighe cams arent the best option to go with. RPW are just Tighe cams re-sold.

thats what i was going to say...aren't RPW's made by tighe? AFAIK they are made to Daves specs. As you mentioned in other posts, he knows what he is talking about. I was happy dealing with him when i had my Stage ones installed. with your mods you could probably go stage 2's.

martin, before you go porting and polishing see my post here (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=882931&postcount=16)regarding porting and polishing the magna heads. Also, i am led to belive that Tighe cams arent the best option to go with. RPW are just Tighe cams re-sold.

Yeah i agree with Chris here id go and find his post but i CBF at this point in time haha,

Yeah i agree with Chris here id go and find his post but i CBF at this point in time haha,


i linked it mate. :nuts:

i linked it mate. :nuts:


ahh yes apon closer analysis of your previous post i do notice you have the link buried in there, perhaps i shouldnt post drunk :P

As ever guys thanks for your friendly and knowledgeable advice.

Chris that's interesting about the heads - so the fundamental design seems basically sound and doesn't need anything radical then. Interesting.

I should mention I had a chat with Dave T last week, ran him through my current list of mods and said I was looking at Stage 2 cams. He was adamant that Stage 1 was the way to go. The argument was Stage 2 would give big boost in top end hit but that the bottom end would be undriveably sluggish with an auto. So he recommend Stage 1 with vernier gears. So my thinking was whatever I do should be an "equivalent" of a RPW Stage 1-type tune - not too wild.

Anyone out there used Camtech at all??

I should mention I had a chat with Dave T last week, ran him through my current list of mods and said I was looking at Stage 2 cams. He was adamant that Stage 1 was the way to go. The argument was Stage 2 would give big boost in top end hit but that the bottom end would be undriveably sluggish with an auto. So he recommend Stage 1 with vernier gears. So my thinking was whatever I do should be an "equivalent" of a RPW Stage 1-type tune - not too wild.


A bit more to the RPW story; I also quizzed dave about the stage 2 cams for the 380 (tippy). As you know this has 10:1 CR and with the mods I have (interceptor) I thought these cams would be viable. He was still very strongly against the idea.

When I was chipped at ChipTorque, we talked about an auto TE, I believe, that awhile ago was brought in to be chipped. It had Stage 2 cams (plus extractors and similiar mods). It wasn't able to be tuned without rough vibration and idle issues and was there for some days. End result was it made less power than an inital benchmark dyno run. The cams were pulled out and returned to RPW.
I think it might be that experience that guides Dave's advice.

On the other hand, I don't see why Tighe can't recommend a suitable camset for a custom job if you stipulate all your mods and your CR etc.

For me, I don't think Stage 1 would give enough return for the investment.

then why would dave tell me the stage 2 cams i have will be suitable for my set up. he said the car will be able to be used for an everyday car, should get substaintual gains, with only a small amount of rough idol. :shock: so comfusing... mine should be going in soon, awaiting daves phone call to say i can bring it in as it was supposed to of gone in this week, but the workshop is full, so patitence is a vertue :)

Tighe cams are great.
I went to MITSUBISHI and brought:
RALLIART HEADS P/N MR924463 LEFT HAND
MR924464 RIGHT HAND
LIST PRICE $166, they have all the maching and port work etc,and theyre cheap.
The RALLIART CAMS
MR926589 LEFT HAND
MR926590 RIGHT HAND
They also were cheap.
Just something to think about.

then why would dave tell me the stage 2 cams i have will be suitable for my set up. he said the car will be able to be used for an everyday car, should get substaintual gains, with only a small amount of rough idol. :shock: so comfusing... mine should be going in soon, awaiting daves phone call to say i can bring it in as it was supposed to of gone in this week, but the workshop is full, so patitence is a vertue :)

I can only be thinking he would say that knowing you are wishing to convert to manual later.

yeh i just hope it is driveable and can hold out till end of the year as finds are drying about quickly :rant: bloody drout :( lol i will let all know how i go when they are in :)

Tighe cams are great.
I went to MITSUBISHI and brought:
RALLIART HEADS P/N MR924463 LEFT HAND
MR924464 RIGHT HAND
LIST PRICE $166, they have all the maching and port work etc,and theyre cheap.
The RALLIART CAMS
MR926589 LEFT HAND
MR926590 RIGHT HAND
They also were cheap.
Just something to think about.

cool idea. Have you had it dynoed? Also where did you get ya auto done. Have not heard of anyone that does auto upgrades for magnas

cool idea. Have you had it dynoed? Also where did you get ya auto done. Have not heard of anyone that does auto upgrades for magnas


are you telling me that the ralliart heads are onlt $166 each? is that cost price per cylinder?

Tighe cams are great.
I went to MITSUBISHI and brought:
RALLIART HEADS P/N MR924463 LEFT HAND
MR924464 RIGHT HAND
LIST PRICE $166, they have all the maching and port work etc,and theyre cheap.
The RALLIART CAMS
MR926589 LEFT HAND
MR926590 RIGHT HAND
They also were cheap.
Just something to think about.

Doesn't seem right considering they charge more than that a stick for the Cams

Tighe cams are great.
I went to MITSUBISHI and brought:
RALLIART HEADS P/N MR924463 LEFT HAND
MR924464 RIGHT HAND
LIST PRICE $166, they have all the maching and port work etc,and theyre cheap.
The RALLIART CAMS
MR926589 LEFT HAND
MR926590 RIGHT HAND
They also were cheap.
Just something to think about.
That's an interesting alternative. So just to confirm, heads were 166 each???

And what were the cam prices each??

found out that was bare heads tho, no cams, valves or rocker gear.

cam prices are around 270 each for 380 camshafts which are exactly the same as ralliart units

cam prices are around 270 each for 380 camshafts which are exactly the same as ralliart units

Wrong cant remember who told me but i think it came form MR B but Ralliart and 380 cams are different in some way.

yeah, about twice the price......aaahhh hah hah hah...many lolz. But i believe thay are the same duration and lift. easy way to tell is look at the factory w/s manual for the specs.

THE 380 CAMS ARE THE SAME AS RALLIART CAMS,BUT, ARE SLIGHTLY THICKER,ABOUT 10THOU ON THE BEARING JOURNALS,SO WHEN THEY GET WORKED HARD AND HOT THEY SEIZE.
A friend of mine did the exercise and found out the hard way.

Tighe cams are great.
I went to MITSUBISHI and brought:
RALLIART HEADS P/N MR924463 LEFT HAND
MR924464 RIGHT HAND
LIST PRICE $166, they have all the maching and port work etc,and theyre cheap.
The RALLIART CAMS
MR926589 LEFT HAND
MR926590 RIGHT HAND
They also were cheap.
Just something to think about.

did you change valve springs aswel, or left them standed?

THE 380 CAMS ARE THE SAME AS RALLIART CAMS,BUT, ARE SLIGHTLY THICKER,ABOUT 10THOU ON THE BEARING JOURNALS,SO WHEN THEY GET WORKED HARD AND HOT THEY SEIZE.
A friend of mine did the exercise and found out the hard way.



so there not there same you even said it yourself.

**EDIT**

If i remember correctly one day someone made the comment about the two cams being the same and ever since it has always been said no one has really checked.

The 3.0, 3.5 are Lonsdale Engines,as are The Ralliart 3.5 engines,the cam billets are AUSTRALIAN MADE,the valve springs are Japanese.
The 380 engine is fully imported from japan as a unit.
The cam grind and the head work are taken from the Ralliart spec.
For some reason the Billets ARE machined different in the journals,we dont know why,
manufacturing differences between here and there i quess.
The bottom line is Aussie cams with Aussie heads,and 380 with 380.

The 3.0, 3.5 are Lonsdale Engines,as are The Ralliart 3.5 engines,the cam billets are AUSTRALIAN MADE,the valve springs are Japanese.
The 380 engine is fully imported from japan as a unit.
The cam grind and the head work are taken from the Ralliart spec.
For some reason the Billets ARE machined different in the journals,we dont know why,
manufacturing differences between here and there i quess.
The bottom line is Aussie cams with Aussie heads,and 380 with 380.

So what your really saying is im right they are different cams NOT the same as Ralliarts

Well if the 380 cam journals are slightly larger, you could machine the the RalliArt spec 380 cams down to fit the Magna heads properly.

Well if the 380 cam journals are slightly larger, you could machine the the RalliArt spec 380 cams down to fit the Magna heads properly.

All that for how much gain??? may as well go stage ones and be done with. better result anyway

All that for how much gain??? may as well go stage ones and be done with. better result anyway

You're right. Unless you picked up the 380 cams cheap.

thats what i was going to say...aren't RPW's made by tighe? AFAIK they are made to Daves specs. As you mentioned in other posts, he knows what he is talking about. I was happy dealing with him when i had my Stage ones installed. with your mods you could probably go stage 2's.

i rang tighe cams today, and rang rpw straight after... if rpw cams are just tighe cams why are tighe almost $300 dearer than rpw? shouldnt it be the other way around?

i rang tighe cams today, and rang rpw straight after... if rpw cams are just tighe cams why are tighe almost $300 dearer than rpw? shouldnt it be the other way around?

this is what i concluded as well. i presumed that it was because RPW buy bulk.

this is what i concluded as well. i presumed that it was because RPW buy bulk.

yeah but rpw are rpw! surely they want to make money as usual.

this just doesnt make sence

yeah but rpw are rpw! surely they want to make money as usual.

this just doesnt make sence

What price did Tighe quote you? The sets of magna cams ive got from them have been around $800 including GST, whereas RPW's are around $950 including GST.

One thing to consider is that Tighe will make cams to "your" specs whereas RPW will tell you what they reckon you need and then try and sell you whatever they have in stock :bowrofl: .

What price did Tighe quote you? The sets of magna cams ive got from them have been around $800 including GST, whereas RPW's are around $950 including GST.

One thing to consider is that Tighe will make cams to "your" specs whereas RPW will tell you what they reckon you need and then try and sell you whatever they have in stock :bowrofl: .

i got quoted 1250 from tighe

i am still up in the air as to what profile to get, is it ok to pm you a list of mods and see what you think?

i got quoted 1250 from tighe

i am still up in the air as to what profile to get, is it ok to pm you a list of mods and see what you think?

Go for it.

Most of the time if your running a Manual 3.5L NA with higher comp (10:1+) and headwork, i recommend around 260-270degree duration with around 50-60degrees of valve overlap and 108-110 lobe seperation.

Go for it.

Most of the time if your running a Manual 3.5L NA with higher comp (10:1+) and headwork, i recommend around 260-270degree duration with around 50-60degrees of valve overlap and 108-110 lobe seperation.

ill just do it here

pacemakers, full exhaust, sprintex, other small stuff. manual conversion to be done on monday.

any advice would be appreciated

ill just do it here

pacemakers, full exhaust, sprintex, other small stuff. manual conversion to be done on monday.

any advice would be appreciated

and the heads will be rebuilt with valves, springs, port and polish already done

back to the original post, how are you going with these. Chisolm made an interesting post at the start of this thread about the profile type with reasonable driveability, which of course has to be considered. I can tell you from experience, that my cams in my car (auto) are actually stage 1 manual cams, which I got 2nd hand more than 30000km ago.

The car is very driveable, however lacks the low down torque, which would have been gained with the auto cam profile. That said, i intend dialing my cams to advance a bit to move the power band as i have plenty of boot over 6000rpm which i dont use at all. (It was only after i had them installed i discovered they were manual profile)....still, it did a 14 sec pass:cool:

What price did Tighe quote you? The sets of magna cams ive got from them have been around $800 including GST, whereas RPW's are around $950 including GST.

One thing to consider is that Tighe will make cams to "your" specs whereas RPW will tell you what they reckon you need and then try and sell you whatever they have in stock :bowrofl: .

No, RPW will sell you what did not work for the last poor victim they sold them to, prob euro accord.....

So are the cams from the OP actually in yet, will be interesting to see them in.

And yes, even if they are more expensive, at least with with Tighe you get a warranty if it is needed

i rang tighe cams today, and rang rpw straight after... if rpw cams are just tighe cams why are tighe almost $300 dearer than rpw? shouldnt it be the other way around?

Because they knew you were going to do that! Tighe is trying to support his magna reseller, if you pay his price he's laughing - until you send them back, then again, then again.......

Because they knew you were going to do that! Tighe is trying to support his magna reseller, if you pay his price he's laughing - until you send them back, then again, then again.......

and again....

and again....

And once more for good measure....

and again!

Still havnt got mine back from them after the third stuff up! Its been 11weeks so far this time around, hell i even sent them a complete pair of heads so they can get my cams correct...... Time will tell, might have them by next year :bowrofl:

awesome, modding a magna sux balls

if i was modding a commodore i could probably find cams in my neighbours bin

awesome, modding a magna sux balls

if i was modding a commodore i could probably find cams in my neighbours bin

The funny part about what you said is the speedway commodore and falcon street stock guys nearly all use tighe to do there cams..... even they have issues with some of his grinds.

It seems to be about one in every 4 cams they stuff up from all the converstations ive had with people who use tighe for there cam grinding.

The sad part is he has a machine called a cam doctor which reads every lobe on the cams to make sure they are correct and the lobe placement is spot on but it seems he doesnt use it very often or just thinks that 90% people will just throw the cams into the engine and hope they work.

Big word of warning: IF YOU use tighe cams make sure you dial each cam in by checking the opening/closing of the valves (valve timing) and you check the overlap is correct as well. As i said a while back, it was found that the exhaust lobes on the front cam he supplied me were out 30degrees in timing compared to the specs i gave him, the inlets were spot on though. The rear cam was pretty good/close to my specs required.

is there anyone that can do a job properly first time around?

i mean if youre having these problems with tighe why keep going there? surely someone else can help

is there anyone that can do a job properly first time around?

i mean if youre having these problems with tighe why keep going there? surely someone else can help

Im not spending money having someone else make the parts that shouldve been done correctly the first time.

At the end of the day, my cams are costing him as ive refused to pay for any of the freight and the making of the new pairs of cams. Eachtime he stuffs them up, it costs him.

Next set if they are no good he will be refunding me the amount i payed for the first and only set that ive payed for.

There are others out there who can do it but A) most arnt interested because its for a magna, its just too hard for them to get there head around. B) Cant make the blank billets. C) Argue that the specs i want wont work even though ive built a previous engine that my specs have worked well in. D) These guys are so used to working on pushrod chev/ford **** and cant see things outside of the square cave that they live in.

yeah that seems to be where im at right now

guys not returning calls, overquoting even laughing because parts are for a magna

There are others out there who can do it but A) most arnt interested because its for a magna, its just too hard for them to get there head around. B) Cant make the blank billets. C) Argue that the specs i want wont work even though ive built a previous engine that my specs have worked well in. D) These guys are so used to working on pushrod chev/ford **** and cant see things outside of the square cave that they live in.
Amen to that. Been and done all the research and basically it's Tighe or nobody. Oh, and I ordered my 252 grinds 8 weeks ago. They were supposedly gunna be shipped two weeks ago. As of Friday last week they are supposed to be shipped this week. Sigh...

shame you dont live 10 minutes from him like i do.:doubt:

Amen to that. Been and done all the research and basically it's Tighe or nobody. Oh, and I ordered my 252 grinds 8 weeks ago. They were supposedly gunna be shipped two weeks ago. As of Friday last week they are supposed to be shipped this week. Sigh...

Yeah i rang Mr Dean Tighe today and they havnt even started making the new replacement pair for my engine.... Hmm 11weeks and counting, hell my new engine now has nearly 3000kms on it, oh well at least its now fully run in i guess :bowrofl:

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/default.html

Ok Because the whole Tighe cams things seems to be a bit hit and miss and has been for some time ..... well forever from what I can tell ! This is what I am prepared to do for all us magna people if someone is willing to help me a bit.... If someone can supply some 6g74 heads to dean tighe I will drop off a short motor for the purpose of R&D so we can get this sorted once and for all..... is anyone will to help me get this done ????

I rung Dean this morning as I thought he may have a set of heads there ATM but he doesn't.

Anyway Just a thought :cool:



Yeah i rang Mr Dean Tighe today and they havnt even started making the new replacement pair for my engine.... Hmm 11weeks and counting, hell my new engine now has nearly 3000kms on it, oh well at least its now fully run in i guess :bowrofl:

will this be a donation to tighe cams? or will the heads come back?

my spare heads are ported so i dont think theyll be of any use.

The heads will most certainly be a boomerang..... are they complete heads ? springs, valves rocker gear etc etc .....

These spare heads when you say ported what has actually been done ?

I only have my brand new Ralliart heads and they aren't leaving my sight.

I'm gunna call Dean again today and just keep hassling him :badgrin:

Ok I asked if someone could help..... I didn't really need to know if someone couldn't help or what heads they do or don't not have! What people need to understand is that Dean Tighe needs a complete engine so he can turn it over a couple of hundred times so he can set these cams up correctly.... once and for all.
Ringing him and hassling him is still going to give us the hit & miss approach as he has never even seen one of our engines before

I hope that make sense :D

I say F... him!

If he wants to charge people a good sum of $$$$ to buy his cams then HE should be the one sourcing a engine to play with and in all honesty, HE should be able to get things right without customers supplying him components!

At the moment he seems to be able to get 3 out of 4 sets correct which means he doesnt need a engine to play with, what he needs is to stop smoking dope (or at least give his workers a swift kick in the ass) and do the BLOODY JOB correct the first time, ya know whats funny is when people buy stuff from overseas the local makers/suppliers cry fowl but if they picked up the customer service and actually gave a **** about the locals then they might actually get more sales....

The only person who seemed to know what was what at Tighes was luke but he left.... makes ya wonder why doesnt. I'll give tighes 2 more weeks and if i get nothing then consumer affairs are going to be notified, its about time some of these useless places get a kick where it hurts.

Oh an it seems my "old" 3.5L heads have gone walkabouts on the way to his business, funny thing is he got my wrongly made cams and a V6 commodore cam and they were all sent together in the same package. :rant:

Oh and Chaddy i think hes been feeding you a bit of **** because a good friend of mine who builds drag and drift engines here in SA uses tighe to make his cams and has not had one stuff up and when he has spoken to Dean tighe on my behalf, he has been told that he knows exactly what a magna V6 engine looks like etc...

Wow, can't have that kind of stuff happening.

Just tell them your calling the office of fair trading, that should sort them out pretty fast.

Thanks Jason but Im sorry I completely disagree... IMO he seems to be able to get 3 out of 4 sets close which is good for some but not for me ! Out of curiosity how did you sent the heads ? if it was correctly you would have proof that the items arrived safely with a sign confirmation and receipt on arrival on the entire package not part of it !

Im not sure on this occasion who is been feed the bull **** ! I guess time will tell hey.



I say F... him!

If he wants to charge people a good sum of $$$$ to buy his cams then HE should be the one sourcing a engine to play with and in all honesty, HE should be able to get things right without customers supplying him components!

At the moment he seems to be able to get 3 out of 4 sets correct which means he doesnt need a engine to play with, what he needs is to stop smoking dope (or at least give his workers a swift kick in the ass) and do the BLOODY JOB correct the first time, ya know whats funny is when people buy stuff from overseas the local makers/suppliers cry fowl but if they picked up the customer service and actually gave a **** about the locals then they might actually get more sales....

The only person who seemed to know what was what at Tighes was luke but he left.... makes ya wonder why doesnt. I'll give tighes 2 more weeks and if i get nothing then consumer affairs are going to be notified, its about time some of these useless places get a kick where it hurts.

Oh an it seems my "old" 3.5L heads have gone walkabouts on the way to his business, funny thing is he got my wrongly made cams and a V6 commodore cam and they were all sent together in the same package. :rant:

Oh and Chaddy i think hes been feeding you a bit of **** because a good friend of mine who builds drag and drift engines here in SA uses tighe to make his cams and has not had one stuff up and when he has spoken to Dean tighe on my behalf, he has been told that he knows exactly what a magna V6 engine looks like etc...

Thanks Jason but Im sorry I completely disagree... IMO he seems to be able to get 3 out of 4 sets close which is good for some but not for me ! Out of curiosity how did you sent the heads ? if it was correctly you would have proof that the items arrived safely with a sign confirmation and receipt on arrival on the entire package not part of it !

Im not sure on this occasion who is been feed the bull **** ! I guess time will tell hey.

Well im going to agree to disagree with you!

One of my cams was spot on so replicating the other should be easy. I used to work at a CNC machining place (after i left MMAL) and once the "machine setup" for one part is done then many many more can be pumped out exactly the same.

As for my heads (and the 3 cams) they went up with the same guy who has been delivering my uncles parts to tighe for the past 1 1/2yrs!!!! He takes them up for a small fee in cab of his semi because his companies depot is 1 street away from tighes.

I fail to see why we the customer have to supply a business who wants our money, parts so they can make things correctly. Dean Tighe needs to pull his head out of his ass and sort it out otherwise if he wants "us" to supply him a engine to get "his" parts supposidly 100% correct, then he needs to agree to drop his prices by a fair amount to cover all the costs/favours we are doing for him and his business.

He seems to have spun you a great story, so if its making you feel better then go for it but ive been dealing with him for nearly 3yrs and dont see anything changing.

Arrogant yes but WHY after the past 18months of F...ing me around with this last set of cams is he ONLY NOW saying he needs a engine to work things out, surely he wouldve asked RPW 4yrs ago for a engine when he started doing there cams.

In my opinion tighe should get on here and defend his cams/manufacturing techniques, not get other people to do his work.

Anyway im done posting in here, arguing on a public forum is stupid and gets nobody anywhere :D

Will a Catalytic converter gain power ? or should i leave my exhaust without one and i am aware of penaltys

speaking with the guy doing my heads this evening, does not rate tighe at all. After his experiences with FJ20 cams, claiming their a new billet whcih turned out to be a regrind, he will never use them again

Thanks Jason but Im sorry I completely disagree... IMO he seems to be able to get 3 out of 4 sets close which is good for some but not for me ! Out of curiosity how did you sent the heads ? if it was correctly you would have proof that the items arrived safely with a sign confirmation and receipt on arrival on the entire package not part of it !

Im not sure on this occasion who is been feed the bull **** ! I guess time will tell hey.

Also when it comes to cams/engine parts 99.99999999999999x10 of the time there is no such thing as close enough is good enough, being that ive read the few bits and pieces of info that Jason has "leaked" of his testing and his car, i tend to think he knows what he is talking about.

I agree he does know his ****.... Im not disagreeing with you on that point but Im sorry its really obvious that Dean and Jason are not going to resolve the issue without it getting ugly...

He turned a replacement camshaft for me around in half a day and was happy to listen to what I needed and fix it practically on the spot lol

Anyway Im done in hear as well..... I wish you all good luck in the quest..... and I feel sorry for the unlucky 1 out of the 4



Also when it comes to cams/engine parts 99.99999999999999x10 of the time there is no such thing as close enough is good enough, being that ive read the few bits and pieces of info that Jason has "leaked" of his testing and his car, i tend to think he knows what he is talking about.

I agree he does know his ****.... Im not disagreeing with you on that point but Im sorry its really obvious that Dean and Jason are not going to resolve the issue without it getting ugly...

He turned a replacement camshaft for me around in half a day and was happy to listen to what I needed and fix it practically on the spot lol

Anyway Im done in hear as well..... I wish you all good luck in the quest..... and I feel sorry for the unlucky 1 out of the 4

It wont get ugly from my side. The problem we have is he hardly ever answers the fone and when he does its that bloody noisey he can hardly hear ya speak. Would be easier to deal with him in person but im not paying for a ticket to fly up and see him, id rather my money back.

Let me know if I can assist you in anyway as Im 5 Min away :D



It wont get ugly from my side. The problem we have is he hardly ever answers the fone and when he does its that bloody noisey he can hardly hear ya speak. Would be easier to deal with him in person but im not paying for a ticket to fly up and see him, id rather my money back.

Let me know if I can assist you in anyway as Im 5 Min away :D

Will do.

Tomorrow i will be chasing up the heads with the truck driver and will try calling dean again regarding the cams. Hell if he cant make the ones that i payed for, i'll happily take some slightly smaller sticks say around the 280 duration mark.

I just want to get the car up and fully running as the current sticks (prototype ralliarts) in the car are killing the top end over 6000 rpm.

Yeah the search for the top end...... Hey quick question Jason is it possible to get a degree wheel onto the crank to dial camshafts in with the engine in the car ?

Have you done this before ?

:redface:



Will do.

Tomorrow i will be chasing up the heads with the truck driver and will try calling dean again regarding the cams. Hell if he cant make the ones that i payed for, i'll happily take some slightly smaller sticks say around the 280 duration mark.

I just want to get the car up and fully running as the current sticks (prototype ralliarts) in the car are killing the top end over 6000 rpm.

Well would you believe it. Called Tighe yesterday and the cams are being shipped today. Let's hope I'm one of the 3 in 4 who get the right ones. Oh, and going back to the earlier part of the thread, total invoiced cost is $850 (gst and post included).

Yeah the search for the top end...... Hey quick question Jason is it possible to get a degree wheel onto the crank to dial camshafts in with the engine in the car ?

Have you done this before ?

:redface:

Yes but it must be the "smallish" 8" type degree wheel. Ive done mine plenty of times in the car.

Oh and my degree wheel is just a daggy old speco one but it does the job just fine.

http://www.speco.com.au/accengine.html#wheel

Thanks Jason...... that's some handy info :D




Yes but it must be the "smallish" 8" type degree wheel. Ive done mine plenty of times in the car.

Oh and my degree wheel is just a daggy old speco one but it does the job just fine.

http://www.speco.com.au/accengine.html#wheel

Let me know if I can assist you in anyway as Im 5 Min away :D

ah huh! so the phantom Chaddy is not so far away at all:think: which Suburb?

It is easier to deal in person, i agree.

:D :D :D Middle Park........... Always easier to deal in person.....

What about you ?



ah huh! so the phantom Chaddy is not so far away at all:think: which Suburb?

It is easier to deal in person, i agree.

Other direction similar distance, Springfield Lakes.

We bought cams from them for our corolla 4age race car. We spoke to Ivan Tighe I think, he knew the 4age well. We told him the mods to the car and what we had planned and what we wanted, high end torque and he came up with a good profile. we got a very lumpy long dur cam and it idles like dog **** now and is easy to stall at low rpm, but at around 5k-9k rpm its off its tits.

You have an interceptor so you really are not limited, you could get a pretty out there cam profile. Check out regrinds too, they can sometimes be cheaper.

We bought cams from them for our corolla 4age race car. We spoke to Ivan Tighe I think, he knew the 4age well. We told him the mods to the car and what we had planned and what we wanted, high end torque and he came up with a good profile. we got a very lumpy long dur cam and it idles like dog **** now and is easy to stall at low rpm, but at around 5k-9k rpm its off its tits.

You have an interceptor so you really are not limited, you could get a pretty out there cam profile. Check out regrinds too, they can sometimes be cheaper.

I think when it comes to cams for the 3rd gen magna, i know quite abit about them for NA engines, hell ive only had 5 different grinds/combos in the engines ive done and theyve been mild to wild in there specs.

My last engine had 308/306 degree duration cams in it :)

I have some New Cams :D :D

I have some New Cams :D :D

YES......? :snooty:

Received mine from Tighe yesterday too. Have checked profiles, notching and lobe positioning and all looks good (phew).

haha seems like the ol' AMC has a bit of sway.

haha seems like the ol' AMC has a bit of sway.

Doubt it.
Cos Mr Tighe reckons he cant/wont be able to get my cams correctly made without a engine etc blah blah blah..... So if hes made the above 2 sets correct then he most definately should be able to get mine right :nuts: Hell all ive asked for is more duration and lift.

I also learnt today from a local engine builder friend of mine that uses tighe cams and he reckons with the cam pro analyzer program http://www.performancetrends.com/ca20.htm that tighe uses he should most definately get my cams correct. He even showed me a "print out" for a V6 commodore cam and a pair of RB26 skyline cams that tighe made for him. Tighe apparently even fixed up a stuff up that crow cams did on a new set of high performance billets for a 6cyl BA falcon, so its known that he can make good stuff if he tries.

My friend is going to speak to dean on my behalf and try and get this sorted once and for all.

At the end of the day this needs to be sorted and sorted fast. Hell if he cant make them correctly (or doesnt wanna try and get them right this time) then just direct transfer the money i payed for the cams back into my bank account and i'll walk away.

What size did you go for ?? do you have your cam card?
Cheers Chaddy
Received mine from Tighe yesterday too. Have checked profiles, notching and lobe positioning and all looks good (phew).

What size did you go for ?? do you have your cam card?
Cheers Chaddy

Afaik he went a standard stage 1, which isnt a bad cam for a 3.0 auto either given on BEJ1OS car. Pretty mean idle and pulls well from 3k onward. Will be interesting to see what its like once he is blown.

Awesome.... look forward to some power figures:)

Afaik he went a standard stage 1, which isnt a bad cam for a 3.0 auto either given on BEJ1OS car. Pretty mean idle and pulls well from 3k onward. Will be interesting to see what its like once he is blown.
Correct. But in my case I am mating the cams to worked Ralliart heads too (see my additions to your current seperate head thread).