i just bought a ts magna v6 only 80.000kms, however since i bought it (dunno how i didnt see it when i checked underneath when i bought it) ive noticed that there is oil on the bottom of the car over on the left handside front, and also a little bit on a piece in the middle of the front end. The car runs beautifully, is very economical, and im not sure what it is. The only other glitch ive noticed is my rear view mirror very slightly vibrates sometimes at certain low speeds,(i know this because the rear view reflection in mirror blurrs a bit) which may indicate a bit of slight vibration in the motor, dont know what this is. Power all seems to be there.
I have no idea about the mechanics of this car so can someone help me out.
cheers.

not as simple as the oil sump drain plug is leaking a little as thats on the passenger side?. and then the oil filter is sotof in the middle at the front, though i wouldnt blame an oil filter as thats pretty unlikely.
edit. wait you said v6 that information probably doesnt apply as its from the 4cyl engine. sorry

ok then how much to take to a mechanic to check it?... (thats if ADZA27 cant pin-point it hopefully he can.) Im thinking now im getting rid of this thing and just driving the vr-x.! better be something cheap to fix.

well, i can tell you that with the mirror you are not alone. i just replaced mine cos it was rattling terribly with the sub. i just got one from a wreckers. i went along and just tapped the mirrors til i found one that didnt rattle.

as far as the oil leak goes, it could be many things. best thing to do it is to get some degreaser and clean off the engine, then look for fresh oil. that will answer it pretty quick and you get a clean engine :)

check the direction of the oil. Is it all on one side of something or is it gathered on a particular spot. (just to see if it's from one spot or it's being blown backwards when you actually drive the car, my mate spent 1000 bucks replacin bits before i told him the oil was from a metre forward, turns out he needed to replace a seal bahhahaha)
Thats about all the help i can give you. Hope you sort it out,

~twiggy~

ok then how much to take to a mechanic to check it?... (thats if ADZA27 cant pin-point it hopefully he can.) Im thinking now im getting rid of this thing and just driving the vr-x.! better be something cheap to fix.

Cass pretty much all 2nd gens leak (Was probably a factory fitted extra) so thinking of selling it just becuase it is leaking is stupid:P
They are simple cars to fix...
Like mentioned, use degreaser to find out where its coming from.
It could be anything, as you have no idea when most of the seals were changed they could all be hard....Either way, ADZA should be able to help you out...

OK just took it down the town to a local guy, he was happy to just lift the car up and look underneath... he couldnt pinpoint the place as there was a fair bit of oil... so he cleaned it up a bit for me... then has told me to drive it around a bit, then bring it back to him later in the week.
its obviously coming from the motor somewhere as its all underneath it. what worries me is that it may be coming from the big pully thing, in which case the whole friggen motor may have to come out?!.
If that the case im getting rid of it. someone else can do the hardyards,.. it would be a pity because ive never seen a 2nd gen in such good nick. it literally hasnt got one dint.

OK just took it down the town to a local guy, he was happy to just lift the car up and look underneath... he couldnt pinpoint the place as there was a fair bit of oil... so he cleaned it up a bit for me... then has told me to drive it around a bit, then bring it back to him later in the week.
its obviously coming from the motor somewhere as its all underneath it. what worries me is that it may be coming from the big pully thing, in which case the whole friggen motor may have to come out?!.
If that the case im getting rid of it. someone else can do the hardyards,.. it would be a pity because ive never seen a 2nd gen in such good nick. it literally hasnt got one dint.

motor wont have to come out even if its one of the cam or crank seals.
I've been charged about $80 for a cam seal before, so not too bad
I wouldn't worry that much cass, Could be simply the rocker cover gaskets which are dead easy to change, or maybe its the crank seal which have a habbit of leaking, not many places for them to leak really.
Let us know how you go anwyay hey

thanks i hope your right its a nice car- :)

i found this in a mitsubishi owners thread about oil leaks in the v6 second gen...
here is where these engines do leak from.
1/ rocker cover gaskets and bolt seals. (do not skimp on bolt seals, are a few cents each from mitsu)
2/ Oil filler cap, gasket about 3 bucks
3/ Cam seals
4/ crank seal front (do when doing cam belt)
5/ Blind end crank seals(oppersite end of cam belt)
6/ Sump, it has no gasket, is a sealent seal, have to ensure proper sealant is used.
7/ Oil pressure switch
8/ Rear main oil seal but this will be more middle leak.

hopefully each of these things arent major and wouldnt cost much to replace.

Well, your rear main seal is going to be the most expensive labour wise - your transmission will have to come out.

Next up is cam seals, as your timing belt and cam gears will have to come off (try and wait until you are getting a 90,000 or 180,000Km service when the timing belt is ude to be changed anyway).

The rest are pretty basic; rear rocker cover is a bit of a pain to get to.

Haha, you guys think second gens leak bad? Mitsu put out a recall on all third gen/3.5L sumps becfause they ALL leaked from factory! The fix was to remove, clean like crazy, and reseal. :bowrofl:


If you get some photos from underneath, I could give my opinion.

Edit: just thought - are you sure the transmission isn't leaking at all? You said LHF? So that would be the passenger side, where the box is.

Edit: just thought - are you sure the transmission isn't leaking at all? You said LHF? So that would be the passenger side, where the box is.

In a second gen the engine would be on the passenger side. Transmission on the drivers side.

first thing to do is to replace the rubber pipe running off the front bank into the throttle plenum. If this gets blocked with gunk, oil pressure can be a real problem and end up causing a lot of damage. This is what happened to my 2nd gen when it died a horrible death

Sorry Cybermonkey, looks like we are on the same page.

Have a look at the 2 hoses and metal outlets that come off the front and rear rocker covers. if one or both are blocked, it can cause a build up of pressure within the engine and force oil out.

If they are blocked, take the hoses off and using carburetor cleaner clean out the hoses. For the 2 metal outlets on the rocker covers, some stiff wire or long pipe cleaners twisted together will also do the job in unblocking those outlets. Don't spray any carburetor cleaner into those metal outlets as it will end up in the engine.

I had this problem and was forced to replace all engine seals. Now I clean them every 6 months and have had no problems since.

Also helps to know what color the oil is. If its red, its would be your transmission thats leaking or your power steering. If its black, it would be from your engine.

ADZA27- adam has had a look look and it seems to be something simple to fix.(hopefully)- seems to have happened due to the time its been sitting in the garage- after all 80 000kms is nothing for a 13 or more year old car. looks like the rear rocket cover stuff i think he said. Looking at it properly on sat.

looks like the rear rocket cover stuff i think he said. Looking at it properly on sat.

Hmmm... no wonder your car is having oil leaks - I don't think they are made to handle rocket propulsion... lol

Although, in your defence, the "t" is next to the "r" on the keyboatd.

ok sorry my mistake rocker cover, anyway seems that was the problem the seals were hard so replaced it front and back,. Now just need to drive around a bit and see.

ok sorry my mistake rocker cover, anyway seems that was the problem the seals were hard so replaced it front and back,. Now just need to drive around a bit and see.

:P Sorry - didn't mean to offend. Oil leaks are a pain to work out and often the reason people sell cars - but also a way to get a cheap car with essentially nothing wrong with it but a gasket. Hope your oil leak has gone!

In a second gen the engine would be on the passenger side. Transmission on the drivers side.

Damnit, I'm such a retard sometimes. :nuts:

Damnit, I'm such a retard sometimes. :nuts:

Happens to all of us every now and then. No big deal. :)

That engine layout (drivers side engine, passenger side trans) is correct for 3rd gens anyway, so partially right. First & Seconds it's the other way though.

Its annoying - I have the TS and a VL, AND I'm used to servicing 3rd gens everyday. :bowrofl:

It all kind meshes into one messy north-south-east-west engined petrol guzzler that I can never remember anything about. :nuts:

I thought about it after I saw your reply, then realised I'd been diagnosing belt noise not that long ago - on the passenger side! lol

I often wonder why people find oil leaks hard to fix.

First of all clean the engine until it is sparkling

Drive it and then look over it for the leaks

Places they leak

Rocker Covers
Oil Pressure switch (far left side at rear)
Front Oil seal
Cam Seals
Cam blind plugs (rh end of heads)
Rear oil seal
Sump

If the car only has 80k on it, I personally would be looking to do all seals with exception to rear main as it would indicate a lot of short trips or long time not being driven. I would also do timing belt as they do state every 5 years or 100k

And whilst your timing pulley is off, replace your crankshaft seal.

the timing belt was done on time rather than kms. It was done at 60,0000kms.
The oil leak wasn't hard to fix madmagna, was just the rocker cover seals. It hasn't leaked since....TOUCH WOOD :p

i found this in a mitsubishi owners thread about oil leaks in the v6 second gen...
here is where these engines do leak from.
1/ rocker cover gaskets and bolt seals. (do not skimp on bolt seals, are a few cents each from mitsu)
2/ Oil filler cap, gasket about 3 bucks
3/ Cam seals
4/ crank seal front (do when doing cam belt)
5/ Blind end crank seals(oppersite end of cam belt)
6/ Sump, it has no gasket, is a sealent seal, have to ensure proper sealant is used.
7/ Oil pressure switch
8/ Rear main oil seal but this will be more middle leak.

hopefully each of these things arent major and wouldnt cost much to replace.

Oops I have been quoted from another forum lol (either that or someone has found one of my posts here and quoted me lol)

Good to hear is fixed, contry to popular belief, oil leaks are not normal on any Magna, if you look at my web pages of my KR, the engine looked like it was only built yesterday.

Oops I have been quoted from another forum lol (either that or someone has found one of my posts here and quoted me lol)

Good to hear is fixed, contry to popular belief, oil leaks are not normal on any Magna, if you look at my web pages of my KR, the engine looked like it was only built yesterday.
Well you have a bloody rare one!
At all my times trawling through wreckers, only once....ONCE, have I seen a V6 even close to oil-leakless, was on a KS, front and RHS were spotless, I had to take another look as i didn't believe what i saw, on closer inspection is was leaking from the rear lol Ah well.

I could swear that on 2nd gens "Oil-Leaks" were a factory fitted option sometimes :bowrofl:

My car has 215,000kms on it and the engine bay is spotless, havent used any oil since i bought it last year:D *knocks on wood*
While im at, when is a good time to rebuild? Is there any signs that an engine needs rebuilding and how much would it set you back?

My car has 215,000kms on it and the engine bay is spotless, havent used any oil since i bought it last year:D *knocks on wood*
While im at, when is a good time to rebuild? Is there any signs that an engine needs rebuilding and how much would it set you back?

Yeah, when it seizes is usually a good time :)

prob when it starts to burn oil and blow blue smoke?. :p... if it seizers your probably too late id think :P.
Adam just re-cond his engine by himself at 260,000kms and it cost 2 grand in parts and engineering work. Someone on ebay said they got a re-cond engine put it an 2500 grand- dunno how they did this... think thats cheap

Cmn Tuff, you know as well as anyone that if yo have a mechanic that has half a brain and you care for your car, it will not leak.

As for rebuild, if you have good compression, you are not using oil, leave well enough alone

Cmn Tuff, you know as well as anyone that if yo have a mechanic that has half a brain and you care for your car, it will not leak.

As for rebuild, if you have good compression, you are not using oil, leave well enough alone
Considering that in my handbook, right up until i ripped the pos out, it had every interval stamped, I'm pretty pissed it leaked as much as it did. Now i think its just the luck of the draw i guess.

2 grand to rebuild a SOHC jesus I hope he gets his 2 grands worth back on that...

Now let's see my son's V6 TS leaks oil, my V6 TS wagon leaks oil, my KS Verada (116.000KM's) leaks oil, my NH 2.6 Pajero dosen't and the KS Verada XI that I'm working on at the moment leaks oil, er no it dosen't it just pisses out, so that's not normal for 6G72 to do?:confused:

Now let's see my son's V6 TS leaks oil, my V6 TS wagon leaks oil, my KS Verada (116.000KM's) leaks oil, my NH 2.6 Pajero dosen't and the KS Verada XI that I'm working on at the moment leaks oil, er no it dosen't it just pisses out, so that's not normal for 6G72 to do?:confused:

My motor leaked so much, from where I don't care for (yet, until I'm done with the conversion) that when i took it out, i dropped all the oil.
Had it on the stand and rotated the motor about 45 degrees or so to see a thick oily sludge leak out from somewhere behind the timing cover.
Beautiful...
Mal I think you have a freak magna :P

Geez mate, and I thought the Astron was supposed to be the leaky one. lol

Sorry, couldn't resist.

I'd have to agree completely with Madmagna in regards to the rebuild. If the engine is operating as it should with good compression, then there's no need for a rebuild. There's no specific rebuild time unlike timing belts and so on.

All cars leak oil at different stages of their life. This is supposed to be picked up at services and rectified. If the faults are fixed when they start it's a lot easier then trying to find a leak in the filth with some moving parts after it's all been coated. If you think the 6g72 is bad take a look under any ford e-series falcons, you'll know the meaning of oil leaks.

my engines brand new and it leaks, ahah... not bad tho, I think its just from my copper head gasket, although its bedded in, i dont think its still sealing properly. Just give the block a little TLC once a week.

I always try and keep ontop of any issue that arises in my car, no point leaving it, only going to get worse.

my engines brand new and it leaks, ahah... not bad tho, I think its just from my copper head gasket, although its bedded in, i dont think its still sealing properly. Just give the block a little TLC once a week.

I always try and keep ontop of any issue that arises in my car, no point leaving it, only going to get worse.
Your kidding me dude...thats not good for anyone :confused:

hmmm e-series infact stands for extra leaks and these also really suffer as the sealed crankcase when it leaks chews fuel like there is no tomorrow.

If a copper head gasket has been correctly fitted it will not leak, personally unless it is a racing car I would not bother with one, even in a high boost turbo a good quality head gasket will live quite fine