View Full Version : is this a stupid move??
thebeast.
16-07-2008, 06:24 PM
OK well as you can see i have put a pod on a carby.
a few months ago i was given a pod and didn't know how do adapt it so it was sitting in the boot for ages then last night i "found" some piping and today i decided to try to connect it all up.
so i eventually came up with this. (keep in mine i will do it properly soon)
so i put the piping over the stock air box arm and taped it there so air didn't come in.
then a put the pod into the piping, very snug fit.
then i remembered where the stock air filter arm went into the side on the car so i just got another smaller piece of plastic piping put it in there and going into the pod.
(hard to understand but pics say 1000 words)
in the future I'm going to buy another stock box and silicone it all up air tight and replace the tape with silicone..
then run more of that plastic piping from under the car to the pod for a cold air intake
is it safe to run the plastic piping (extreme heat etc)
Madmagna
16-07-2008, 07:16 PM
Very dumb --- you asked
First of all, silicone is a silly move, if it is an ULP carb model, say ta ta to your cat etc
You are onto a good idea however, go to a wrecker, search some vans etc as mazda have a snorkel setup that allows a canister filter to be used remotely, use this and you may then get the idea you have here working properly.
thebeast.
16-07-2008, 07:43 PM
thanks. i just took it out for a spin. previously it had nothing over 5k (rev it out to 5 let foot off then stab it again, just revs with no pull). now its got pull till about 6k
did a 0-100 but couldn't tell cuz of wet roads
theres no wreckers around me that let you just go and look through the yards
magna00
16-07-2008, 07:59 PM
if you have a plumbers nearby get some rubber pipe adaptors instead of using silicon and tape, will look nice and tidy then and should be under the 30 dollar mark
thebeast.
16-07-2008, 08:18 PM
ok, do you think its alright for the moment
you may find that it's bypassing the filter from the hot air stove flap when the motor is cold.
i'm assuming that you took the existing filter out?
thebeast.
17-07-2008, 10:39 AM
yeah i took the old one out. im not sure if its bypasing it cause i can hear it sucking (from under the bonnet)
GT-Pete
17-07-2008, 01:29 PM
That sure does look pretty bogan!!!! You could have at least used black pipe and some black gaff couldnt you???
thebeast.
17-07-2008, 02:40 PM
your a bogan lol
i "found" the piping and already had the tape.
GT-Pete
17-07-2008, 02:42 PM
Fair 'nuff.
I assume you're going to fix it up nice and proper though at some stage
MicJaiy
17-07-2008, 02:49 PM
You'd be better off just running that pipe without the filter, otherwise you are just filtering the air twice (pod + carby)
magna buff
17-07-2008, 04:20 PM
that should get more air into the carb
the 2.6 motors do seem to be air starved from factory
let us know what the fuel consumption gets to
thebeast.
17-07-2008, 05:37 PM
Fair 'nuff.
I assume you're going to fix it up nice and proper though at some stage
yeah of course i am lol this is just for now
thebeast.
17-07-2008, 05:39 PM
You'd be better off just running that pipe without the filter, otherwise you are just filtering the air twice (pod + carby)
what do you mean?
like run the white pipe there without the pod on it and just have the stock filter on it
i thought pods were better then the stocko filter
thebeast.
17-07-2008, 05:41 PM
that should get more air into the carb
the 2.6 motors do seem to be air starved from factory
let us know what the fuel consumption gets to
did you say that MicJaiy's idea was good or mine lol had a long day....
also yeah ill find out fuel economy when i fill it up again
thebeast.
18-07-2008, 05:45 AM
OK because of all the criticism i took it off and put the stock air filter in. then ran a good cold air intake... yet to drive it.
floater05
18-07-2008, 03:33 PM
post up some pics of you cai when you get the chance.
in regards to your pod filter idea thebeast. you took the stock air filter out didnt you? and connected the pod filter to the air intake pipe?
if thats what you did the air should only be filtered once...:confused:
Gemini
18-07-2008, 08:41 PM
is that a metal type Apexi pod ? those things are good for air flow but crap for filtration lol
thebeast.
19-07-2008, 08:34 AM
post up some pics of you cai when you get the chance.
in regards to your pod filter idea thebeast. you took the stock air filter out didnt you? and connected the pod filter to the air intake pipe?
if thats what you did the air should only be filtered once...:confused:
yeah only the pod filter lol no point filtering it 2 times
thebeast.
19-07-2008, 08:35 AM
is that a metal type Apexi pod ? those things are good for air flow but crap for filtration lol
yep it was, but i tool it off and did something else ill post up a pic in a few min's
thebeast.
19-07-2008, 08:47 AM
well here are ther pics..
first i connected the snorkel to the air box then pointed it down
then i cut up a snorkel off a falcon and taped it in position
then secured it into place with some good old zip ties
and yes they do hold in place, its very firm, had the car doing about 130 and it didnt fall off or anything.
when the car is ideling and you put your hand over the C.A.I you can feel it sucking so theres no leaks.
also now you can hear induction noise about about 4000RPM and over
MicJaiy
19-07-2008, 09:13 AM
alot better, but how much ground clearance have you got? lol
thebeast.
19-07-2008, 02:42 PM
heaps, the bottom of the intake is about 15cm under the bumper
I'd be moving the intake... if you get a mouthful of water you might be saying goodbye to the engine!
Mrmacomouto
20-07-2008, 09:12 AM
I prefered the povo solution.
thebeast.
20-07-2008, 09:38 AM
lol great now i dont know what to do
Mrmacomouto
20-07-2008, 09:49 AM
If it were me I would neaten up your first job and run with that.
Hell it's an Astron2, go and get the head of a second gen with some better rockers and what not like I did, much better.
floater05
20-07-2008, 02:08 PM
thebeast. i tried your "povo" solution today with the pod from my parts car.
took the car for a drive, and there was no noticable difference in power or sound. so i took it back off again.
i couldnt fit the pod in the same place you did. so i sat it near the battery and ran tubing (which got so hot it wasnt funny) between the engine and radiator.
didnt take a pic, didnt think off it till i had alredy taken the pod off.
MicJaiy
20-07-2008, 05:43 PM
lol great now i dont know what to do
what you done the second time round is fine.
thebeast.
21-07-2008, 11:21 AM
yeah im thinking about just leaving it like that. but someone mentioned water getting up into the engine.. what are the chances of that??? cause it would bassically have to travel up a s bend
MicJaiy
21-07-2008, 12:15 PM
but someone mentioned water getting up into the engine.. what are the chances of that???
rmininmal to none, if anything the water would get stuck at the first bend anyway.
that someone must think your intake is like a vacuum cleaner :bowrofl:
thebeast.
21-07-2008, 02:51 PM
lol yeah thats what i thought, i didnt thik it would go all the way up. maybe drill a hole at the bottom of the intake to let water out. wouldnt minamise air flow would it?
rmininmal to none, if anything the water would get stuck at the first bend anyway.
that someone must think your intake is like a vacuum cleaner :bowrofl:
Well it was a mate that dove through those melbourne flood waters a while ago, all the other cars drove through, it didnt appear deep & other "similar" cars were fine, so he followed...
It was a 306 Pug, ended up with an $11k engine bill.
your call.
thebeast.
22-07-2008, 06:52 AM
well if it starts to rain ill just take this off then put it back on when its dry. simple
Lucifer
22-07-2008, 07:12 AM
Well it was a mate that dove through those melbourne flood waters a while ago, all the other cars drove through, it didnt appear deep & other "similar" cars were fine, so he followed...
It was a 306 Pug, ended up with an $11k engine bill.
your call.
Crossing floodwater is risky business anyway... The best option is to detour around it :nuts:
MicJaiy
22-07-2008, 09:56 AM
Well it was a mate that dove through those melbourne flood waters a while ago, all the other cars drove through, it didnt appear deep & other "similar" cars were fine, so he followed...
It was a 306 Pug, ended up with an $11k engine bill.
your call.
WOW thats nice to know!!! I didn't know that driving into flood water could possibly wreck my car. Gee you must be a rocket scientist or something.... :doubt:
Your mate is retarded if he/she intentionally drove straight into flood water.
also, Peugeots are crappy cars anyway... $11k bill was probably just another service to keep that heap of **** on the road :nuts:
Thebeast, I will guarantee that intake your is fine, that you wont even have to take it off even if you drive through heavy rain... but if you don't have common sense like Nate's friend here, then I am not responsible for damaging your car :bowrofl:
Lucifer
22-07-2008, 09:59 AM
http://packphour.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/common-sense.jpg
It's all you need :)
thebeast.
22-07-2008, 11:30 AM
haha ok thanks guys is staying on then, its running soooo much better since its been on
Blazin'
22-07-2008, 01:11 PM
Hey does anyone know how the air filter compares to with the carby/EFI models? I'd be interested in doing something similar to this to my EFI system, but not sure if it will work, it already had a pod filter in the big black box there which is a pain in the ass... what sort of upgrades are available for something like mine?
btw I havn't modified anything under the bonnet... bar the recond head with the valve grind...
Killzone
22-07-2008, 03:40 PM
WOW thats nice to know!!! I didn't know that driving into flood water could possibly wreck my car. Gee you must be a rocket scientist or something.... :doubt:
Your mate is retarded if he/she intentionally drove straight into flood water.
also, Peugeots are crappy cars anyway... $11k bill was probably just another service to keep that heap of **** on the road :nuts:
Thebeast, I will guarantee that intake your is fine, that you wont even have to take it off even if you drive through heavy rain... but if you don't have common sense like Nate's friend here, then I am not responsible for damaging your car :bowrofl:
I disagree. Company car ford territory, 1m deep water, 70km/ph = tidal wave. Awesome fun. But the intakes so high on the terries it was fine.
Hey does anyone know how the air filter compares to with the carby/EFI models? I'd be interested in doing something similar to this to my EFI system, but not sure if it will work, it already had a pod filter in the big black box there which is a pain in the ass... what sort of upgrades are available for something like mine?
btw I havn't modified anything under the bonnet... bar the recond head with the valve grind...
the filters are completely different on the EFi and the carby. you cannot eliminate the EFI airbox as it houses the Karmen Vortex.
MicJaiy
22-07-2008, 04:45 PM
I disagree. Company car ford territory, 1m deep water, 70km/ph = tidal wave. Awesome fun. But the intakes so high on the terries it was fine.
I don't understand why you "disagree".. you reallly have to be retarded or lacking basic common sense lol to drive into flood water with a CAR... not a 4WD
Blazin'
22-07-2008, 08:15 PM
the filters are completely different on the EFi and the carby. you cannot eliminate the EFI airbox as it houses the Karmen Vortex.
Yeah I was thinking that would be the case... ah well, i'll live with my stupid hard-to-modify-cheaply efi... at least the stock power is minutely higher :)
thebeast.
23-07-2008, 10:29 AM
I disagree. Company car ford territory, 1m deep water, 70km/ph = tidal wave. Awesome fun. But the intakes so high on the terries it was fine.
well im pretty sure im not going to be driving in 1 meter high water.. i'd get drifted away
thebeast.
23-07-2008, 10:30 AM
took it for a drive in the wet today. ran fine went thru puddles and nothing happened.
hammered it off the lights, spun in 2nd doing 80. so im pretty happy
WOW thats nice to know!!! I didn't know that driving into flood water could possibly wreck my car. Gee you must be a rocket scientist or something.... :doubt:
it wasnt me that did it, & it wasnt exactly a "flooded" road...
I only used it as an example to demonstrate that an engine can suck water up through an intake, get it through the air filter & ingest it to cause a nice case of hydraulic lock, and not just "stop at the first bend". I even quoted you in my response.
Sadly you either didnt read the full post or cant comprehend this, i'll try to be more specific & lay it out clearer next time.
Ashneel
23-07-2008, 11:53 AM
quick question are you running 2 filters? one in that round thing ontop of the carb abd the pod?
if so then very very very silly
thebeast.
23-07-2008, 12:15 PM
quick question are you running 2 filters? one in that round thing ontop of the carb abd the pod?
if so then very very very silly
actually im running 3 filters. the oval one in the air box and 1 i made of chicken wire between the piping and a invisable pod..
sorry no just the one oval filter. i was running just a pod at the start (the first pics) then i took it apart and started from scratch again and now im just running the one oval filter..
thebeast.
23-07-2008, 12:26 PM
Hey does anyone know how the air filter compares to with the carby/EFI models? I'd be interested in doing something similar to this to my EFI system, but not sure if it will work, it already had a pod filter in the big black box there which is a pain in the ass... what sort of upgrades are available for something like mine?
btw I havn't modified anything under the bonnet... bar the recond head with the valve grind...
a few weeks ago i was looking thru the forums and if i remember correctly fudgesical made a C.A.I with a EFI and all he did was cut a hole in the air box and run tubing down a hole next to the battery and under the bumper. would be easy enough.
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