Im a tad curious as to what other engines would fit into the TP Magna, is it just the 4G54? Like... is there a stock turbo engine that would fit? Or... I dont know... say I wanted to upgrade the engine to something newer... is there anything that fits or just this 1?

thanks

I've heard that the Turbo motor from the turbo sigma model fits in quite well (although I can't remember whether it's a 2.0L of 2.6L engine though) . And could be cheaper then actually getting a Turbo for your car haha. Not 100% sure if this is right, but it sounds right, the engines are quite similar.

Why not try a 6G72 SOHC?


I've heard that the Turbo motor from the turbo sigma model fits in quite well (although I can't remember whether it's a 2.0L of 2.6L engine though) . And could be cheaper then actually getting a Turbo for your car haha. Not 100% sure if this is right, but it sounds right, the engines are quite similar.
Not quite... That would be a RWD engine. You can bolt the components up to the 4G54 2.6L but you will have to fabricate the dump pipe and IC piping (among other things)... Not as simple as you'd think sadly.

Why not try a 6G72 SOHC?


no reason why not... what does it come out of? wait, the turbo wont fit... but the 6g72 will?

In terms of engine transplants there are a few that have been done

VR4 4G63 can be fitted but it will still require extensive modification.
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53965&highlight=4g63

Turbo Sigma 2L that blazinTP mentioned still needs modified mounts.
http://www.mitsubishiclubaustralia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5200

or if you have a search there have been a few turboed Astron first and second gens.

Honestly theres plenty of power to be had a from an NA astron.

The 6G72 is the 3L V6 from a TR/TS.

Not quite... That would be a RWD engine. You can bolt the components up to the 4G54 2.6L but you will have to fabricate the dump pipe and IC piping (among other things)... Not as simple as you'd think sadly.

ah ok, I have heard of someone doing this conversion before tho, I'm sure of it... Don't think it was Rosa with the TM, pretty sure he got a turbo from somewhere else. but I have heard of it... time to search haha

i like the idea of a 3L in the TP... I'm really serious about modding the TP. I've got until January before my P's so I want to Mod it until then. SO I've got the time to do it. If I was to change the engine, would I have to change the gearbox... excuse the uneducated questions....:redface:

If its anything like a 2nd gen, From doing some rough measurements the only engine mount in a 2nd gen that will need to be changed will be the timing belt side.

Besides that it should fit in.
Needles to say i think a SOHC V6 in a 1st gen would be sweet as :cool:

']If its anything like a 2nd gen, From doing some rough measurements the only engine mount in a 2nd gen that will need to be changed will be the timing belt side.

Besides that it should fit in.
Needles to say i think a SOHC V6 in a 1st gen would be sweet as :cool:

Are the 2.6L and 3L gearboxes in a 2nd Gen interchangeable?

yer should be sweet. Theres one on trading post ATM looks mint for $850. doesnt say how many Km's. I will try and find a decent engine. But like i said before... would I need to change the gearbox? I want to manual anyway so.... but if i can get away with it i will keep the auto in (Just had it put in after the old one FAILING)...

yer should be sweet. Theres one on trading post ATM looks mint for $850. doesnt say how many Km's. I will try and find a decent engine. But like i said before... would I need to change the gearbox? I want to manual anyway so.... but if i can get away with it i will keep the auto in (Just had it put in after the old one FAILING)...

I'm not 100% sure, I mean they look the same, But I'm sure on the forums someone said they are different.
Either way, if you want a 2nd gen V6 Auto (Needs a service, slips) Its yours for $120

The 6G72 is the 3L V6 from a TR/TS.TR, TS, TE, TF, TH, TJ Series 1.

TE onwards is orientated around the other way, ie gearbox on the right.

']I'm not 100% sure, I mean they look the same, But I'm sure on the forums someone said they are different.
Either way, if you want a 2nd gen V6 Auto (Needs a service, slips) Its yours for $120


$120... I will keep that in mind. Thanks for the offer

I think he meant the "SOHC 6G72 12-valve" As its orientated the same way as a 1st gen :)

If your going custom mounts anyway why now use a 24V 6g74? just put it in the way it is, use the 3.5 gearbox again with custom mounts, then get some driveshafts and CV's made up. I dont see the problem, the only thing is with the plenum sizes from memory. The NZ sigma with the 12v 6G72 has a much smaller plenum due to the placement of the firewall in the 1st gen's compared to the 2nd gens. If you do go 6g72 12V you will have to get that plenum or make one yourself.

Me and a mate were going to do this to his mint wagon. But sourcing a plenum was a chore. Then we actually thought about it. And he bought another car lol

yer should be sweet. Theres one on trading post ATM looks mint for $850. doesnt say how many Km's. I will try and find a decent engine. But like i said before... would I need to change the gearbox? I want to manual anyway so.... but if i can get away with it i will keep the auto in (Just had it put in after the old one FAILING)...

That $500 car was sold to you with a busted gearbox. You knew that before you brought it....

try and source a inlet manifold from nz then the engine will fit.. just look up sigma in google.co.nz.. should see the v6 manifold..

Would be very nice..

I have only seen 1 v3000 1st gen in aus in brisbane.. man it was nice. black with the elante kit and sounded like the nice v6..

That $500 car was sold to you with a busted gearbox. You knew that before you brought it....


yea... whats your point? i knew that it was broken lol.

yea... whats your point? i knew that it was broken lol.

Oh from the way your post was worded, it seemed like you were pissed off about the g/box.
No probs then lol

Oh from the way your post was worded, it seemed like you were pissed off about the g/box.
No probs then lol
You sold him a car with a broken gearbox? Your a prick, Cant believe you did that Andy lol

Screw trying to find the manifold.
Run 6 individual throttle bodies from each runner through the bonnet oh yeah :D

If your going custom mounts anyway why now use a 24V 6g74? just put it in the way it is, use the 3.5 gearbox again with custom mounts, then get some driveshafts and CV's made up. I dont see the problem, the only thing is with the plenum sizes from memory. The NZ sigma with the 12v 6G72 has a much smaller plenum due to the placement of the firewall in the 1st gen's compared to the 2nd gens. If you do go 6g72 12V you will have to get that plenum or make one yourself.

Me and a mate were going to do this to his mint wagon. But sourcing a plenum was a chore. Then we actually thought about it. And he bought another car lol

the 24V 6G74...
I would need the 3.5gearbox, custom mounts, New cvs... sweet. The Plenum -(No idea what that is)- would be sourced from a NZ SIGMA? or would that be too small?

This engine comes in SOHC, DOCH, and MIVEC.

Would the MIVEC fit and if so from what car?

hey mate your after the 3l sohc engine. same as kr ks verada or v6 magna .. 91-95. dont think 3.5l..its also only a 12valve.. 3rd gens have the 24 valve

Inlet manifold is the big metal thing that sits on top of the heads, 6 pipes go into the head..
also connects to air intake...

make sense??

Yeh if you get one from nz, im sure a few people on here would love to help you out.. i know i would be i live on the gold coast...

Good luck

AND after all this modding, turboing etc etc, you'll have to catch the bus to wherever it is you're going due to P plater law restrictions...lmfao

Anyway, Ive always wondered if the 6G72 would fit, I'm sure as hell it would with the same modifications that would be needed as the TR...you culdalways go to some wreckers with a measuring tape and check it out.

http://www.mitsubishiclubaustralia.com/forums/files/v3000_176.jpg
possible!!

http://www.mitsubishiclubaustralia.com/forums/files/v3000_176.jpg
possible!!
Ahh,but is that a magna or v3000.im guessing because of the different plenum, its a v3000...

I'd be thinking the only plausible V6 would be the 2nd gen 12v 3L, not that 3rd gen due to orientation which means you'll have to get everything custom made and it would NOT be worth it. Plus the 3L 12v should be fairly cheap as a reco vs an import donk, which means you could work your reco as well, that or buy a DOHC 3L 24v like was in Killbilly's car and try that, which I think you may have better luck selling on if your project dies in the butthole. Then you'd just need the ECU, looms etc etc..

Only other thing no one has mentioned and they should've (bad people!) is wiring, which can be a nightmare for someone not so inclined and will cost you another arm to get a professional to do it..

Ahh,but is that a magna or v3000.im guessing because of the different plenum, its a v3000...


Its a NZ built v3000, which was a sigma body ( 2" narrower then a 1st gen) with 1st gen bumpers put on.