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ishtalk
22-07-2008, 03:32 PM
I need some new ones, and kinda got no clue where to buy em, wanna get the best ones i can get, cause last set the mechanics fitted some real dud ones in before, which are absolute **** for driving on roads without lights, without having to use highbeams

doddski
22-07-2008, 04:14 PM
what sorta headlamps do you have?
parras or just standard exec style?

dont bother with the HID style globes for parras... its a waste of money.

just take an old globe out, wander into supercheap or autobarn, and tell one of the sales people - you want one of *these* and hold up the globe. they will be able to work out and get the right ones from there.

FamilyWagon
22-07-2008, 04:45 PM
Hey Mate.

I highly, highly recomend the new range of Phillips bulbs.

If you have Para's, you will need a H7.

I'm fairly sure the normal ones in Magna's are H4's.

The bulbs to get are the +50% brightness but if they have them in stock then go the +80%.

They are called
H4 X-TREMEPOWER + 80% 12 VOLT 60/55W
or
H7 X-TREMEPOWER + 80%

I paid approx $80 for a pair of H7's. Absolutely incredible the difference from the stock junk they have in them.
Also to other people, what also made a huge difference was putting the +50% in the fog lights.


Steer clear of Narva globes. I was changing them that frequently from blown bulbs it wasnt funny.

Phillips are a much better quality globe.

[TUFFTR]
22-07-2008, 04:51 PM
Also all auto stores will carry catalouges which state what globe is for what car usually hanging up where the light globes are too

ishtalk
22-07-2008, 04:52 PM
Nah no paras, just normal stock headlights, Where can i find them locally? or will i have to get em from mitsu?

ishtalk
22-07-2008, 04:53 PM
']Also all auto stores will carry catalouges which state what globe is for what car usually hanging up where the light globes are too
LOL just answered my question seconds before me post, cheers, will check out super cheap this weekend

Lugo
22-07-2008, 05:03 PM
Definitely Philips Crystal Visions. Best bulbs you can put in your car this side of HID's without getting in trouble (ie. What the Diamond Visions would do).

Theres a guy in Toorak who sells them on ebay, should be able to get a set from him for little more than $80 delivered if its H4's your after. Fanbloodytastic headlight bulbs, quite genuinely doubled the amount of light from my low beams, and its a really pure white.

Screamin TE
22-07-2008, 05:39 PM
phillips vision plus are great. Dont taken any notice of catalogues. they are usually bloody wrong and the numpties that work there usually dont know how to read them.

SupremeMoFo
22-07-2008, 05:53 PM
Great thread, saves me searching for info that might've been posted in the past :D Philips it is.

s_tim_ulate
22-07-2008, 06:11 PM
Great thread, saves me searching for info that might've been posted in the past :D Philips it is.
No this is a great thread... searching would have resulted in you finding it...

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57256

SupremeMoFo
22-07-2008, 06:17 PM
Nah, too much information, scary.

Steevo
22-07-2008, 06:31 PM
My advice after testing plenty of different types of globes and doing research with Philips reps (due to my job) is to keep away from anything with a blue or colured tint on the bulb,all these do is reduce the lumens of the globe below that of a standard globe (unless they are overdriven and then they are more inclined to just blow all the time)

If you actually want more light and lumens and not just better reflections from signs,catseyes etc (which is what those bue globes do,but put less light where you want it,on the road in front!),stick with the clear globes,the pick of the bunch are the new Philips X-treme +80% in H7 and H4 fitment,and they do not require relays and will not harm lenses etc,but loom and relay upgrades to squeeze every bit of light you can get are alaways worth it as the stock wires to the bulbs are like a strand of hair and cause voltage drop

Oh,I would keep away from supercheap etc if you want good advice,as they will most likely recommend some "calibre" blue globes cos they are "sick" and all the fellas buy them lol,try auto elec wholesale places like Ashdown-ingram.motor traders,bursons or similar,I know autobarn now sell philips aswell if you get stuck

So to cut a long story short Philips X-treme FTW!

Steve

ishtalk
22-07-2008, 07:08 PM
LOL that other thread just flew over my head , too much information, all i need is a name and the feedback from satisfied users, cheers guys, will go with the philips crystal or xtreme depending on the availability and me finding them.

Edit: I just Put a link in the For Sale Ebay thread, and there the H4 Like Familywagon, can anyone confirm these will fit the stock headlamps for a 1996 TE Exec Magna, Before i buy em

el3ment
22-07-2008, 07:59 PM
Definitely Philips Crystal Visions. Best bulbs you can put in your car this side of HID's without getting in trouble (ie. What the Diamond Visions would do).

Theres a guy in Toorak who sells them on ebay, should be able to get a set from him for little more than $80 delivered if its H4's your after. Fanbloodytastic headlight bulbs, quite genuinely doubled the amount of light from my low beams, and its a really pure white.
Wrong. Crystal Visions are illegal too ;) Read the packaging. Last time i checked its for off-road use only.
However I use them, and had them for around 2 years now. Love them. Been using Philips bulbs for 8 years now.
Never tried the +80% ones, but am sure to try them next time around.

ishtalk
22-07-2008, 08:59 PM
Wrong. Crystal Visions are illegal too ;) Read the packaging. Last time i checked its for off-road use only.
However I use them, and had them for around 2 years now. Love them. Been using Philips bulbs for 8 years now.
Never tried the +80% ones, but am sure to try them next time around.

So what, the police are gonna know what type they are, by take my headlights apart lol, Reckon i should still get them? they arnt gonna be freaking powerful like highbeams right, and piss off other drivers?

Steevo put a link for the xtreme philips bulbs, in the ebay thread, reckon i should get em, also i got no clue when my owners manual is, somewhere in the garage somewhere...

FamilyWagon
23-07-2008, 01:04 PM
Just go the +80%.

Palces like autobarn will usually have them. Maybe ring before hand to see if they are in stock because they are usually out.

Yeah as Steevo said, keep away from any of that fancy blue/silver/yellow tint crap. Just show pony stuff. As he said, all it does is reduce the amount of light output and in my opinion looks terrible anyway. The +50% and +80% are just a clear globe but obviously 80% more light without any more wattage or heat.
They are totally legal as it is all over the packaging.

Well worth every cent mate.

Also dude, nah, they arnt anything rediculous to look at. Prob wont even see a difference looking at the car. Maybe gets rid of that slight brown look the stock ones have.

Also, the thing that can make thew biggest difference in your head light performance is how the lights are aligned. Too low and you don't get the distance, too high and light/beam is wasted and you also piss off other drivers.

_Nick_
23-07-2008, 02:44 PM
i have heard from a few places recently that the crystal vision globes arnt illegal anymore but i dont really know for sure.
the last packet of them i got had nothing about off road use written on them.

like everyone is saying go for the plus 80s. crystal vision are crap for light i have found.

Lugo
23-07-2008, 03:02 PM
Wrong. Crystal Visions are illegal too ;) Read the packaging. Last time i checked its for off-road use only.
I never said they weren't illegal, I just said any higher and you'll probably get in trouble. Neither Crystal or Diamond visions are ADR certified, and hence not legal for road use, but the diamond visions output an obviously blue light, and blue lights are illegal. The crystals on the other hand output a white light like many factory merc's, beemers, hondas etc, you won't be picked on it. If on the very very odd chance you do get picked on for it, just say they're the factory globes from Mitsubishi, they're not going to pull them out of the housing, they'd be there forever in a 3rd gen engine bay!

As for confirmation that they work, when I bought the H7 low beams for my car I also picked up a set of H4's for Nemesis, he has them fitted in his TF's low beams, which are the same headlights as the TE's, they'll be fine.

I disagree with you Nick, I've been in cars with the plus80's, which were the other light I considered, and the Crystals are far better, but maybe thats related to the parras as well. I'm also quite fond of the really white light, shows up the lane markings really clearly even in the rain where they'll just blend in with the reflection from the road with the standard coloured globes.

Steevo
23-07-2008, 04:45 PM
I had a yarn to the Philips rep today regarding lumen outputs etc,the book and he stated that crystal vision offers slightly less distance and output than a standard 60/55 bulb,whereas the diamond visions only offers approx 80% of the distance and output of a standard bulb!,but like we stated ,better reflection of signs etc due to the kelvin temp of the bulb,so its really what you are after from a bulb

Lugo,If the crystal vison were fitted to parras,they may well appear brighter than a +80 in a decent reflector housing like an executive one, due to the fact that parras produce a huge amounts of foreground illumination which only serves to reduce night vison, back to back testing in the same reflector would see the +80 win hands down in every aspect of performance over diamond vision,excepty colour of course

But try the blue globes by all means if you want,,i have,but i didnt like the colour temp or the reduced light ouput,I am now wiser from my tinkering!,but you may enjoy the better reflection and white/blue hue

Steve

Lugo
23-07-2008, 05:03 PM
Lugo,If the crystal vison were fitted to parras,they may well appear brighter than a +80 in a decent reflector housing like an executive one, due to the fact that parras produce a huge amounts of foreground illumination which only serves to reduce night vison, back to back testing in the same reflector would see the +80 win hands down in every aspect of performance over diamond vision,excepty colour of course
I know someone with the +80's in a KH Verada, definitely a lower output in my experiences, but hey I'm no expert, just offering my opinion and personal experiences, as is everyone. Its personal preference in the end.

Nexus
23-07-2008, 05:49 PM
I used Diamonds for a year no issues, no arguement on Crystals as they are nice too. They are the only 2 I would go for if you want white light effect otherwise Vision Plus is good enough.

wollongongVerada
23-07-2008, 06:17 PM
I've got Narva Arctic Blue in Hi, low and fogs. Love the way they really light up road markings and signs and they give a really good distance without being distracting to other drivers.

MrPerkasa
28-07-2008, 03:45 PM
I use Osram Silverstar in My Magna for the last two years. They are 50% brighter. They also claim that therse bulbs give 20m longer distance. I can confirm that they reach longer distance, but I am not sure whether 20m is an exageration or not. I think being "high efficient" bulbs, their lifetime is something like 2/3 of the standard bulbs (but they have lasted for two years anyway!)

I tried Osram NightBreaker last month, and they are excessively bright it is not funny. They more contrast between the lit and the non-lit part of the road. They claim 90% brighter, and I think they are not joking. They also claim 1/3 lifetime than standard bulbs. I strongly recommend these bulbs if you really need something bright without disturbing oncoming traffic.

None of the above bulbs are "blue" or "white" etc. Just simple brighter-than-standard bulbs.

GT-Pete
28-07-2008, 03:49 PM
I've got Narva Arctic Blue in Hi, low and fogs. Love the way they really light up road markings and signs and they give a really good distance without being distracting to other drivers.

Same here, great lights for $40 odd