Hi

I want an AWD Verada wagon, but they don't seem to exist, is this right?

How hard would it be to customise up a standard AWD wagon to verada levels? I'm particularly interested in making sure the suspension, noise etc is better

thanks

Sorry buddy but their aint no such thing as an AWD wagoon. And the costs of doing it would be hideously expensive. If RWD is vital to you look at getting a BA wagon or similar.

Sorry buddy but their aint no such thing as an AWD wagoon.

As far as i know Type40 is right about that, bringing a normal Magna to Verada standards depends where you start i suppose? what model of magna were talking about, although i dont see it being cheap correct me if im wrong

Sorry buddy but their aint no such thing as an AWD wagoon.


........or even an AWD wagon, for that matter lol lol

........or even an AWD wagon, for that matter lol lol
Twas deliberate Al! :D

VR4 liftback?

Or a Mitsubishi Legnum - they look sweet!

audi rs4 wagon.

either that or some hideous panelwork on a Verada AWD.

I'd be going the Legnum ....

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3676/leg4copyls5.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=leg4copyls5.jpg)

forrester GT, liberty gt?

+1 to the no AWD magna / verada wagon unfort :(

woulda been a good machine IMO if they did make one.

thanks all, I was sure I had seen a ref to an AWD magna wagon, but obviously wrong.

thanks for the suggestions of alternatives re liberty etc, but I wanted something a bit bigger. I think the legnum is also smaller than the magna isnt it?

I think the legnum is also smaller than the magna isnt it?Not exactly sure, but I was under the impression that they are of a fairly similar size? Dunno what the boot size difference would be though, which I guess is what you are after?

Here's some specs on the Legnum ......

Body type Wagon
Drive FULL 4WD
Transmission INVECS-II sport mode 5A/T
Displacement, cc 2498
Frame GF-EC5W-LYGF3
Price of new car, thousands yen (Tokyo area) 2850 (~$23700)

SPECIFICATION (SPECS)

EXTERIOR
Exterior dimensions (LxWxH), mm 4740 x 1740 x 1450
Interior dimensions (LxWxH), mm 1870 x 1455 x 1190
Wheel base, mm 2635
Treads (F/R), mm 1510 / 1505
Ground clearance, mm 150
Curb vehicle weight, kg 1550
Gross vehicle weight, kg
Seating capacity, persons 5
Doors number 5
Min.turning radius, m 5.8
Fuel tank capacity, l 60


ENGINE
Displacement, cc 2498
Engine model 6A13
Max.power (Net), kw(PS)/rpm 280 ps (205.94 kw) / 5500 rpm
Max.torque(Net), N*m(kg*m)/rpm 37.0 kg*m (362.85 N*m) / 4000 rpm
Power density 5.54
Engine type V type 6 cylinderDOHC24 valve IC twin turbo
Engine information
Fuel system ECI-MULTI
Turbocharger Twin Turbo with intercooler
Fuel type Unleaded premium gasoline
LEV system (Low emission vehicle) No
Compression ratio 8.5
Bore, mm 81
Stroke, mm 80.8
Final gear ratio
Fuel consumption at 10-15 modes, l/100km 11.7
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Price (rrp) $38,030
Badge Advance
Series TJ MY02
Body Wagon
No. Doors 4
Seat Capacitiy 5
Transmission Automatic
Gear Location Floor
Drive Front Wheel Drive
Fuel Type Petrol - Unleaded ULP
Recommended RON Rating 91
Release Year 2002
VIN Number 6MMTJ8A42YT000017
Country of origin AUSTRALIA
Dimensions
Kerb Weight (kg) 1566
Tare Mass (kg) 1505
Gross Combination Mass (kg) 3342
Gross Vehicle Mass (kg) 1992
Pay Load (kg) 459
Towing Braked (kg) 1500
Towing Not Braked (kg) 500
Wheel Base (mm) 2722
Length (mm) 4832
Width (mm) 1785
Height (mm) 1482
Track Front (mm) 1545
Track Rear (mm) 1505
Engine
Engine Location Front
Configuration V60
Engine Size (cc) 3497
Cam Overhead Cam
Engine Cycle 4 Stroke
Engine Type Piston
Engine Number 6G74M-######
Engine Code E35
Cylinders 6
Valves per Cylinder 4
Compression Ratio 9
Power 155kW @ 5250rpm
Torque 316Nm @ 4000-4000rpm
Induction System Aspirated
Fuel Tank Capacity (litres) 68
Fuel Delivery Multi-Point Injection
Method of Delivery Electronic Sequential

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Sorry that's a long post but what a comparison......hmmmm AWD Twin Turbo.
I nearly bought one but just couldn't find the right one then my Chaser came along.

Still I might end up getting one as the Chaser boot space is woeful. Compared to my old TH:shock:

Mitsubishi Legnum and Nissan Stagea are 2 alternatives. Both are good sized wagons. The Legnum is pretty much the same size as the Magna wagon. It may be a tad smaller but not much.
I prefer the Legnum over the Stagea, but spare parts for the Stagea are more readily available.

Of course there is always this altenative EVO Wagon.......

http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/index.php?ID=13234 :shock:

The legnum is a tight fit but feels like a glove especially if you can get the spec edition with Recaros.

Audi allroad, is a 2.7t, goes like the clappers, awsome to drive and looks the part. Whats more you have the experience of a car company who have made AWD's for eons

stagea ftw

stagea ftw

Stageas look ugly IMO, are heavy and drink premium fuel like a fish - in a drought.

WRX Wagons look sweet... I want one everytime I pass one.

Stageas look ugly IMO, are heavy and drink premium fuel like a fish - in a drought.


Agree, brother in law sold his Series 2 Stagea for that reason. Was very thirsty.


WRX Wagons look sweet... I want one everytime I pass one.
But not what this guy is looking for... they have a smaller boot than my magna :nuts:

Audi allroad, is a 2.7t, goes like the clappers, awsome to drive and looks the part. Whats more you have the experience of a car company who have made AWD's for eons

LOL Both Nissan (Stagea) and Mitsi (Evo) have had years and years of experience with the AWD system. And both of their setups have VERY good reputations.
And the Audi allroad is a significant jump in price... Like over 15k more.

Fit a good set of tyres and don't drive like a twit. Any Verada will be as good in normal speed limits as an All Wheel Drive.

thanks again all.

the stagea does look a bit bloated, and while the Legnum has awd I'm abit worried about longevity and parts, so maybe it will be the verada wagon (plus sunroof).

Passed what must have been a Stagea the other week, thought it was a pimped-up Volvo!:badgrin:

Get a rear-ended AWD and make it into a Magna-Brumby!

But not what this guy is looking for... they have a smaller boot than my magna :nuts:

Oops - I missed that post :redface:

How about the Mitsubishi RVR - AWD Van with an EVO engine and drivetrain - sunroof, can fold the back seats down to make a bed ;)

Getting a bit old, but very cheap and spare parts readily available (Evo and Nimbus). The newer RVRs are not being imported yet - hopefully they will be someday!

it wouldn't be that hard to do. The engine, gearbox and transfer case from the awd would be a direct transplant to the wagon. Then you just need to transplant the rear diff assembly, a longer rear drive shaft and maybe a little bit of cutting for a tailshaft tunnel. It could be done for less than $30,000 which would include the cost of the two donor cars.

it wouldn't be that hard to do. The engine, gearbox and transfer case from the awd would be a direct transplant to the wagon. Then you just need to transplant the rear diff assembly, a longer rear drive shaft and maybe a little bit of cutting for a tailshaft tunnel. It could be done for less than $30,000 which would include the cost of the two donor cars.


err from what I understand, the whole floor plan of the FWD and AWD is quite different. So the transmission, rear diff etc and going to take a hell of a lot of pain to get in if possible at all! I stand to be corrected though.

floorpans are completely different, it would be easier to drop a wagon shell onto the floorpan :badgrin: