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eaglerock18
06-08-2008, 03:32 PM
How much should i expect to pay for a power window conversion in my TF??

I have all the parts required, just need someone to install for me...

Cheers,
Bonnie

yann89
06-08-2008, 03:41 PM
How much should i expect to pay for a power window conversion in my TF??

I have all the parts required, just need someone to install for me...

Cheers,
Bonnie

do it yourself , it's easy. I just did mine and it took me two days on n off. Trust me, paying someone to do it will never cut it. And on top of that, you gain experience in doing it yourself :cool:

EDIT: better TUFF? lmao

eaglerock18
06-08-2008, 03:47 PM
Wanna post a DIY?? I've had never ending drama's with my electrics- so more inclined to get someone to do it if it'll make my problems any worse...

Kieran
06-08-2008, 03:54 PM
Wanna post a DIY?? I've had never ending drama's with my electrics- so more inclined to get someone to do it if it'll make my problems any worse...

If your sketchy about the electronics side of things, what about mounting everything in the associated brackets and such and then just calling an auto lekky to do the wiring?

I have no idea how to do any of it but its just my idea :D

Kieran

yann89
06-08-2008, 03:59 PM
I didnt get around to finishing my DIY on a 2nd gen...i'll finish it soon. If it's anything like the 2nd gen, it's straightforward

all wires from passenger windows go to drivers switch. From drivers switch, one power line goes to ACC power (mine was in the engine bay fusebox) and a ground can be found (if the same as 2nd gen) on the original loom from the car, tap into that ground and everything will be sweet...

YLD35L
06-08-2008, 04:02 PM
it just all plug and play just need fuse in engine bay remove old wiring in doors and plug in new wiring

eaglerock18
06-08-2008, 04:03 PM
it just all plug and play just need fuse in engine bay remove old wiring in doors and plug in new wiring

Pretty sure there is no wiring in the doors- they're currently the windy type...

yann89
06-08-2008, 04:03 PM
it just all plug and play just need fuse in engine bay remove old wiring in doors and plug in new wiring

are you serious? you've actually got the full power windows lom in it but it's just not hooked up? THATS DOG! why didn't 2nd gen have this !!!!!:rant:


Pretty sure there is no wiring in the doors- they're currently the windy type...


There'll have to be at least four wires for the mirrors and central locking.

YLD35L
06-08-2008, 08:00 PM
nah must have wiring as metioned above..... just rip all that out and replace with power window loom

SupremeMoFo
06-08-2008, 08:21 PM
Unless the wiring is already there there's no way in hell I'd do this, I did the stereo in my car myself but the sheer volume of cables for the power windows makes me blanch.

Life
06-08-2008, 08:26 PM
I'd like to see a DIY if anybody does this. the winder is pissing me off.

hedgie
07-08-2008, 07:05 AM
I'd like to see a DIY if anybody does this. the winder is pissing me off.

:shock: is that legal?

perry
07-08-2008, 07:12 AM
all i done when i was converting my 2nd gen was take the whole door loom out of the old car and use that + run the wires for the doors to the main switch

GoTRICE
07-08-2008, 07:48 AM
i've recently done this on my 2nd gen bon. Are you in bris at the moment??

I ran my own wiring though.

I'd be happy to help out provided you find the wiring info for the 3rd gen and locate a power source :cool:

eaglerock18
07-08-2008, 09:25 AM
Nope, still in woop woop unfortunately- The car won't be back in Bris till i move back, or there's something well worth the b*tch of the drive to bring it back for. Will investigate the wiring option from the donor car- he may decide to charge me more though.

GoTRICE
07-08-2008, 10:24 AM
Nope, still in woop woop unfortunately- The car won't be back in Bris till i move back, or there's something well worth the b*tch of the drive to bring it back for. Will investigate the wiring option from the donor car- he may decide to charge me more though.

yeah defs just cut the grommets out and pull the whole thing through. Then you wont have to resolder and work out where things go. Might be a bitch to trace back to the drivers side.

He shouldnt charge extra as you cutting the loom will make it useless anyway...

Mrmacomouto
07-08-2008, 11:24 AM
heh, I did all my own wiring, wasn't to bad.

[TUFFTR]
07-08-2008, 03:47 PM
Unless the wiring is already there there's no way in hell I'd do this, I did the stereo in my car myself but the sheer volume of cables for the power windows makes me blanch.
Dude its easy, 3 wires a door, 1 power and 2 earths, its easy for 3rd gens as (I'm pretty sure) It's all plug'n'play

What i would do is head to the wreckers and suss it all out! Just rip out the looms from one with power windows and then it makes it easy to put it into your car as you've already done it once.

Annese
07-08-2008, 08:52 PM
Yea if someone does end up doing this on a 3rd Gen a DIY would be sweet!

I'm not too sure my TE Exec would have the wiring all there ready to plug in, maybe I should just take the door skins off and have a look :think:

Lucifer
08-08-2008, 07:15 AM
If the pirates here at my local wreckers didn't charge $150 per door for the regulators, motors and such, then I'd have done this by now. If anyone is willing to source me the regulators, motors and loom (or at least the plugs) then I'd be happy to write a DIY ;)

That's a serious offer too by the way, I'll pay for regulators and shizzz... You just have to find them :D

toocky
08-08-2008, 09:14 AM
If the pirates here at my local wreckers didn't charge $150 per door for the regulators, motors and such, then I'd have done this by now. If anyone is willing to source me the regulators, motors and loom (or at least the plugs) then I'd be happy to write a DIY ;)

That's a serious offer too by the way, I'll pay for regulators and shizzz... You just have to find them :D
someone is selling them on ebay

Lucifer
08-08-2008, 09:34 AM
someone is selling them on ebay
Can't find them, all I see is window switches and trims... Or manual regulators etc.

toocky
08-08-2008, 10:07 AM
Can't find them, all I see is window switches and trims... Or manual regulators etc.
must have ended guy was selling a heap of tj parts

Annese
08-08-2008, 10:30 AM
Would it possible to use a generic system like the one below and use proper magna switches?

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?p=900579#post900579

eaglerock18
08-08-2008, 10:33 AM
Got another question for you guys that have done this or know anything about it- do i require the use of the toothed spline from the manual winder?? something about fitting into the gears?? Mines screwed due to crappy billet winders....

Lucifer
08-08-2008, 10:38 AM
Got another question for you guys that have done this or know anything about it- do i require the use of the toothed spline from the manual winder?? something about fitting into the gears?? Mines screwed due to crappy billet winders....
If you're swapping out the manual gear for the automatic ones, then no, you'll be replacing the entire mechanism and bolting it back to the chassis and the window.

eaglerock18
08-08-2008, 10:45 AM
Awesome, thanks.

mrgibblets-wa
04-10-2008, 12:26 PM
Would it possible to use a generic system like the one below and use proper magna switches?

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?p=900579#post900579


Well does anyone actually have a general figure for a mod like this. I have no parts tho. For a 00 TH advance

yann89
04-10-2008, 12:45 PM
Well does anyone actually have a general figure for a mod like this. I have no parts tho. For a 00 TH advance

If you're buying from a wrecker it'll be exxy. My wreckers asks for $50-$60 per mechanism ONLY, plus the cost of switches. Assuming the TH is not like the TR (where only the arm rest changes), you will have to replace the whole door trim, which means that you will unfortunately be down another $30 per trim (at my wreckers).

If you get lucky you might find a conversion set for sale soemwhere for cheap. IF you're not in a rush, I say just wait it out, something will pop up soon enough...

Life
04-10-2008, 03:24 PM
Would it possible to use a generic system like the one below and use proper magna switches?

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?p=900579#post900579

Also interested if a generic ebay 4d kit would work with factory switches, could do a lot with it and would only work about about $250 max.

Lucifer
04-10-2008, 03:26 PM
If you're buying from a wrecker it'll be exxy. My wreckers asks for $50-$60 per mechanism ONLY, plus the cost of switches. Assuming the TH is not like the TR (where only the arm rest changes), you will have to replace the whole door trim, which means that you will unfortunately be down another $30 per trim (at my wreckers).

If you get lucky you might find a conversion set for sale soemwhere for cheap. IF you're not in a rush, I say just wait it out, something will pop up soon enough...
lol man that's far from exxy... The douche up here wants $150 PER REGULATOR plus switches and plus door cards.

Talk about bull****!

[TUFFTR]
04-10-2008, 04:10 PM
lol man that's far from exxy... The douche up here wants $150 PER REGULATOR plus switches and plus door cards.

Talk about bull****!

Some champion sent you down a set didn't he?
There are awesome wreckers and some assholes. The awesome ones will probably charge you about $250-$350 for all 4 trims and regs...Just keep lookin'

eaglerock18
05-10-2008, 05:03 PM
$200 for all 4 door skins, switches, regulators and all wiring. Keep lookin and something will some up.

Anyone care to lend some advice to a "gonnagiveitagomyself" effort??

[TUFFTR]
05-10-2008, 05:37 PM
$200 for all 4 door skins, switches, regulators and all wiring. Keep lookin and something will some up.

Anyone care to lend some advice to a "gonnagiveitagomyself" effort??

eaglerock, its dead easy.
If you cannot fine the looms, to make your own is dead simple!

Each door has a power supply, So you run a 12V line to each door.
From the master switch, it runs 2 earths to each switch. So, you also run 2 earth wires to each door from the master

The master itself gets a + and a -

Thats it really, 3 wires to each door. all you need to know is the wiring colors. Very simple to do, but a pain in the ass to do the actuall door trim swapping.
Now I'm talking from a 2nd gen point of view here, But i cannot imagine 3rd gens having a different setup

magna00
05-10-2008, 07:10 PM
Can anyone confirm that the wiring is there for the 3rd gens? if so its power window hunting time.

ARS55
05-10-2008, 07:19 PM
we'll be confirming this within the week.

magna00
05-10-2008, 07:21 PM
we'll be confirming this within the week.

Sweet as.

Lucifer
06-10-2008, 07:35 AM
']Some champion sent you down a set didn't he?
There are awesome wreckers and some assholes. The awesome ones will probably charge you about $250-$350 for all 4 trims and regs...Just keep lookin'
The same champion hasn't bothered to go around and get me a set for my third gen yet! :rant:

yann89
06-10-2008, 08:28 AM
The same champion hasn't bothered to go around and get me a set for my third gen yet! :rant:

there's a set at jolly rogers near my place...lol, chuck some cash over to pay for it and i'll go grab em for ya...

also there's all woodgrain switches n stuff in the "window"...an excuse for them to charge like, $20 more! lol

YLD35L
06-10-2008, 06:11 PM
it just all plug and play just need fuse in engine bay remove old wiring in doors and plug in new wiring



:stoopid:

Annese
12-11-2008, 07:15 PM
Hey guys bit of a threadmine but I thought it wasn't worth a new thread. I've finally acquired all 4 regulators, wiring looms, door cards, and almost all 4 switches (3/4 aint bad lol) so I'm wanting to install soon. From catching up on this thread and having a look at the looms it looks like it should be pretty simple.

There's a couple connections that I'm not sure about on the looms but i'll be giving this install a go in the next couple weeks. When I do it i'll take some photos and attempt a DIY so stay tuned.

Life
12-11-2008, 07:21 PM
Hey guys bit of a threadmine but I thought it wasn't worth a new thread. I've finally acquired all 4 regulators, wiring looms, door cards, and almost all 4 switches (3/4 aint bad lol) so I'm wanting to install soon. From catching up on this thread and having a look at the looms it looks like it should be pretty simple.

There's a couple connections that I'm not sure about on the looms but i'll be giving this install a go in the next couple weeks. When I do it i'll take some photos and attempt a DIY so stay tuned.

Just curious, how much did it set you back? I'm looking at doing it, but money is an issue.

Annese
12-11-2008, 07:26 PM
Well I got 3 regulators, switches, and and looms from a member on here for $200, and the other regulator and loom off ebay for like $80, plus i've just gotta get the door cards from the mitsu clearance place for $5 each so it'll end up being $300 all up. Only thing I'm missing is the switch covers and RHR switch, but they're not all too urgent for me.

[TUFFTR]
12-11-2008, 07:31 PM
Well I got 3 regulators, switches, and and looms from a member on here for $200, and the other regulator and loom off ebay for like $80, plus i've just gotta get the door cards from the mitsu clearance place for $5 each so it'll end up being $300 all up. Only thing I'm missing is the switch covers and RHR switch, but they're not all too urgent for me.
I stand by one saying, You dont miss what you dont have

but when you get power windows in you'll love it!!!
i used to be able to roll down all 4 windows by hand while driving in the TR while still watching the road, elec windows is so much easier :P Love em though..

Annese
13-11-2008, 07:03 PM
Important note which I found out the hard way today! TJ door/power window wiring looms do not plug straight into a TE/F! As in the picture below, the one on the right is the TE/F loom, and the one on the left is the TJ one. I now have to source some TE/F wiring looms :doubt:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/aannese/P131108_144002.jpg

[TUFFTR]
13-11-2008, 07:08 PM
Just find out what wire does what in both looms
its not hard, there is a + and -, and then 3 wires to each door, one positive, and 2 grounds, so shouldnt be hard to find out what does what

Ers
13-11-2008, 07:25 PM
']Just find out what wire does what in both looms
its not hard, there is a + and -, and then 3 wires to each door, one positive, and 2 grounds, so shouldnt be hard to find out what does what

It could be my eyes, but I swear there's more than 5 wires :P Its that, or Mitsu had a plug big enough for 24 power window functions :P

Annese
13-11-2008, 07:29 PM
It could be my eyes, but I swear there's more than 5 wires :P Its that, or Mitsu had a plug big enough for 24 power window functions :P

Read tuffy's post again lol he said 3 wires to each door. Plus what he didn't mention is the central locking and front speaker wiring.

edit: in conclusion, **** that! I'm just gunna get the TE looms haha

Madmagna
13-11-2008, 07:31 PM
Here is the issue

If you have an exec, then you are in trouble as the internal harness does not carry any of the power window wiring. ABove that model and you are fine.

I am about to do mine, I have a thing for not wiring extra wiring so I have obtained a full wiring harness from a TF solara with cruise as well, will just pop this in and job done.

Annese
13-11-2008, 07:38 PM
Here is the issue

If you have an exec, then you are in trouble as the internal harness does not carry any of the power window wiring. ABove that model and you are fine.

I am about to do mine, I have a thing for not wiring extra wiring so I have obtained a full wiring harness from a TF solara with cruise as well, will just pop this in and job done.

I'm not sure if it's any different with my car though as it came with cruise from factory.

When I look in the back of the connector from the internal harness (female?), it does actually look like there's the wiring there caus most of the little connectors have wiring going into them, however the looms in the actual door (male?) only have about 5 or 6 little connections used.

Is this the same in yours madmagna, or are only a few of the connectors on the connection from the internal harness (female?) being used? (if you can understand that lol)