Hey one and all,

not sure if this should be here or elsewhere but i thought as i have a second gen i would put this to ppl with similar power figures etc.

I have my car (see link in my sig for mods) and i run 17 inch light weight AMG racing wheels with 235/35/r17 Maxis tyres. now i have noticed of late that i seem to be loosing traction a lot easier than i normally do. now i havent done anything to the car of late, performance wise. the tyres on the front are bout 80% tread so thats not the issue. so im wondering, more for my only intrest than anything what do you ppls think is going on. and before any of you ask, its on dry roads :nuts:

1) tyres are just not up to much - round corners they are great but have never been amazing in a straight line

2) tyres are colder due to the temp of the road meaning that they are not as grippy - current road temp would be sitting between 0-10 degrees these days.

3) cold air making more power - i wish lol

4) its all seat of my pants bollocks and im just pushing the gas a bit harder

5) something else

Ive noticed this lately as well, mine is a combination of poor quality tyres, cold road and cold air. My guess is yours would be something similar

Kieran

Hey one and all,

not sure if this should be here or elsewhere but i thought as i have a second gen i would put this to ppl with similar power figures etc.

I have my car (see link in my sig for mods) and i run 17 inch light weight AMG racing wheels with 235/35/r17 Maxis tyres. now i have noticed of late that i seem to be loosing traction a lot easier than i normally do. now i havent done anything to the car of late, performance wise. the tyres on the front are bout 80% tread so thats not the issue. so im wondering, more for my only intrest than anything what do you ppls think is going on. and before any of you ask, its on dry roads :nuts:

1) tyres are just not up to much - round corners they are great but have never been amazing in a straight line

2) tyres are colder due to the temp of the road meaning that they are not as grippy - current road temp would be sitting between 0-10 degrees these days.

3) cold air making more power - i wish lol

4) its all seat of my pants bollocks and im just pushing the gas a bit harder

5) something else
If the only change is the wheels and tyres, I'd probably suspect:

Tyre pressures - try 4 psi more in the front if understeer has increased.
If suspension is unchanged, the roll-slip ratio may be affected. Solution: stiffen the suspension
If the front grips far more than the rear, the extra loss of traction could be from lift-off oversteer. Solution: Brake a little more before the turn so you can apply power as you turn the wheel, and help sit the back down.
Finally, if you've got racing rubber in those tyres, you're increasing the risk of a crash close to departure, before the tyres reach their operating temperature - I once had to advise the same to a guy who fitted race brake pads on his road car!

Hope this helps.

I had the maxxis tyres, they are only good for the first 5%-10% of the tread then they get worse as the tread gets lower. less give in the tread means more chance of slipping.

But the cold weather doesnt help at all. Cold temps mean harder rubber.:doubt:

the tyres are wheels are the same as i have has basically since i got the car.

might try some more air in them...38 psi sound bout right?

the tyres are wheels are the same as i have has basically since i got the car.

might try some more air in them...38 psi sound bout right?
Try 38psi front, 34psi rear, 45psi spare.
Do not measure the pressure with the inline hose gauge at the servo - think of how many times it would have been dropped.

Try 38psi front, 34psi rear, 45psi spare.
Do not measure the pressure with the inline hose gauge at the servo - think of how many times it would have been dropped.

yeah i have my own gauge. never trust those servo ones...well suspect

right well i upped the pressure to 38 front and 34 rear - up from 32 all round and there is def a difference, both in handleing and ride comfort...up on one down on the other...but hey thats the price we pay.

still not the greatest tho, as i said its mainly in taking off that i find i have trouble, round the bends its fine.

maybe i need an LSD :badgrin:

with the rain/dew of late its likely that the roads are more slippery with the oil/fuel/grease pooling up on the road surface and and when drying out the residue is left over.

Like race cars, the amount of rubber worn onto the road surface makes a difference, and the rain does a good job of washing off the rubber coating that usually builds up over time

I've got maxxis on my old 17's and there alot gripper that my tyres on my 19"s

if u want traction you should be dropping the pressure slightly to get more surface area on the road.

ive had experiences with tyres that are great for the first 10 or so % and then they kick the bucket as others have said. your tyres could be weathered and hardening?

Had maxxis tyres on 18's. Never liked them, only good for smoking up, I prefer Nangkang, used them for the last....4 years between 2 cars, the perform straight away, cheap, quiet on the road, look sexy, performance doesnt drop as quick as maxxis as your tyres wear, I had my 15's on my sigma almost down to slicks and still did alright!!