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wombat
09-08-2008, 04:40 PM
This question should be easy for you to answer tuffy.

Looking at replacing most of my interior lights with white LED's.

Lights i wanna replace are the driver and passenger footwell lights, door courtesy lights to red LEDS, dash cluster lights, aircon lights, light in the ash tray, interior lights on so on.

Just wondering if anyone else has converted all of their interior lights to LED's, how much did it cost all up roughly what LED sizes and types needed for each socket etc and some pics of it done would be nice:D
Also to save me searching while im on the topic, what size LEDs are needed for parkers in 2nd Gen paras?

http://www.ledshoponline.com/automotive_dashboard_bulb.htm#T10
Does this site have all of them listed? If yes, could someone point out which LEDS i will need and what they are for.

[TUFFTR]
09-08-2008, 06:46 PM
This question should be easy for you to answer tuffy.

Looking at replacing most of my interior lights with white LED's.

Lights i wanna replace are the driver and passenger footwell lights, door courtesy lights to red LEDS, dash cluster lights, aircon lights, light in the ash tray, interior lights on so on.

Just wondering if anyone else has converted all of their interior lights to LED's, how much did it cost all up roughly what LED sizes and types needed for each socket etc and some pics of it done would be nice:D
Also to save me searching while im on the topic, what size LEDs are needed for parkers in 2nd Gen paras?

http://www.ledshoponline.com/automotive_dashboard_bulb.htm#T10
Does this site have all of them listed? If yes, could someone point out which LEDS i will need and what they are for.

I'll try my best :S
Door Lights are festoon - wouldn't bother replacing these TBH
Footwell lights, I THINK Its a T10, I'm yet to install mine..
Aircon cluster light is a T5
Light in ash try is a T5
Dash clutser lights behind the dash are already LED, The ones shining down are T5

TBH Unless you get the LED's with more then 1 physical LED on them it will be useless :D

wombat
09-08-2008, 06:52 PM
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TBH Unless you get the LED's with more then 1 physical LED on them it will be useless :D
Cheers, so you mean that just having a single led to replace a single bulb isn't good?
Doesn't it put out enough light or something?
Edit: I just did a search for an interior shot of your car at night with the lights on but i can't find any, i swear i seen one in a thread once, can you point me in the right direction?

MGNTZM
09-08-2008, 07:20 PM
Ebay : Mad*****up Cheap jap T5 and T10 leds and just go crazy...

Might wanna do license plate bulbs with Xenon White T10's.. Looks mad crazy.

Wideangle are okay for certain spots.. dash cluster... T5 leds at the top of the cluser only need to be straight down.. they look better.

Nick
09-08-2008, 07:35 PM
What about good old jaycar? You'd need some resistors to knock the current down but it'd be pretty easy to hook up. They're cheap as chips too, get some 30,000MCD white leds and use them are your door lights etc..

You'd want water coloured (clear) leds as they're always brighter in my experience. I just threw a 30,000MCD led into the ash tray led, still works.. I think.. Haven't driven the Magna at all lately let alone at night.

Why not use CCFL's for the door lights and foot lights? cheap as chips too, especially for footwell lights as you can get the double driver ballasts and they throw heaps more light than a single LED and are brighter than the broad spread ones.. probably cheaper to make a run of say 5 leds though, would just have to get your resistance correct & wire in series.

wombat
09-08-2008, 08:21 PM
Ebay : Mad*****up Cheap jap T5 and T10 leds and just go crazy...

Might wanna do license plate bulbs with Xenon White T10's.. Looks mad crazy.

Wideangle are okay for certain spots.. dash cluster... T5 leds at the top of the cluser only need to be straight down.. they look better.

Are the number plate T10's wide angles or just normal ones?
yep after reading through alot of threads from people who have done this i have decided that im doing the dash cluster in blue and the rest of the car in white, can someone confirm what type of parker 2nd gen parras take? its like 9a something?
Also shinra have you got some pics of your number plate lights on or interior shots?

maggie3.5
09-08-2008, 08:28 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160267210671&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006

well you could try these,pricey though,dont get single or three leds...there crap...not enough light...

depending where the globe is can depend on the sort you use...
best of looking at ebay and type in led

try and get a min of six leds to make it worth while

i have changed everything over in mine,even put leds in the number plate,side indicators,front parkers,front indicators.

Have just done the clear indicator trick on my TH Sprorts...silver in color..and used yellow leds in these...looks totally wild...yellow you may say...but in reality they shine orangey...

t10 in the footwells,-six led
t10-trip computer-inverted type
t5 ashtray,cig lighter,ignition key light
t15-9 led in map lights

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/31mm-9-LED-White-Festoon-Map-Light-Bulb-For-Honda-Civic_W0QQitemZ160270489919QQihZ006QQcategoryZ3371 2QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

ive got these in my map reading lights at the front and in the middle interior light and these are good.
its all trial and error.

For something really weird i have installed two 45cm red led strips to the top of the front and rear windscreens and hooked them up to the interior light,so when i unlock the car ,it is bathed in a sexy red light....

The above shop is really good.

Good luck...

wombat
09-08-2008, 08:44 PM
4xT10 -back of instrument cluster - blue - wide angle
2xT5- shine down on instrument cluster - blue - dome
1x T5 - cig lighter - white - wide angle?
1x T5 - ash tray - white - wide angle?
2x T10 6 LED's - footwell lights - white - wide angle?
2x 31mm 9 LED festoon - interior light - wagon boot light - white - wide angle?
2x T10 - number plate lights - white - dome

Does that sound about right? Do i need wide angles or anything for these?
Still need to know the bulb type for parkers in 2nd gen paras, is it BA9S?
Also while im at it, what are the high beams and low beams in 2nd gen parras? is it h1 for high beam and h4 for low beam?
And also is replacing the bulbs in the tranny selecter hard and also the aircon controls?
Also what leds will fit in the map lights in the front? and the secondary lights on the interior light?
whoa thats alot of questions.

MGNTZM
09-08-2008, 10:43 PM
BA9S for parras. I got these awesome white Xenon things also for the parras off ebay... cost about $12.. ill get pics up within the next few days

maggie3.5
10-08-2008, 07:17 AM
4xT10 -back of instrument cluster - blue - wide angle
2xT5- shine down on instrument cluster - blue - dome
1x T5 - cig lighter - white - wide angle?
1x T5 - ash tray - white - wide angle?
2x T10 6 LED's - footwell lights - white - wide angle?
2x 31mm 9 LED festoon - interior light - wagon boot light - white - wide angle?
2x T10 - number plate lights - white - dome

Does that sound about right? Do i need wide angles or anything for these?
Still need to know the bulb type for parkers in 2nd gen paras, is it BA9S?
Also while im at it, what are the high beams and low beams in 2nd gen parras? is it h1 for high beam and h4 for low beam?
And also is replacing the bulbs in the tranny selecter hard and also the aircon controls?
Also what leds will fit in the map lights in the front? and the secondary lights on the interior light?
whoa thats alot of questions.


you can only use single T5 led in the ashtray,lighter and air con controls,key illumination light

dont use domes in ur number plate,

dome is usually concentrated point
inverted will sread the light
multi give off lots of light
get the 9 led 31mm for the interior lights-front and middle-will have to bend fitting a bit
u can useT15 in the interior spotlights-get these from Bright Lights Auto Parts

http://search.stores.ebay.com.au/BRIGHT-LIGHT-AUTO-PARTS_t10_W0QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfsnZBRIGHTQ20LIGHTQ 20AUTOQ20PARTSQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfsubZ2QQsaselZ1010 74189QQsofpZ0

dont get any that are wider than the holder,ie parkers as they wont fit
T15 in the reverse lights-did this in mine

sure the paras run H7 H1
.

SIVART
10-08-2008, 08:07 AM
this thread should be sticky

i didnt mine to, white numbers on blue needles on the dash cluster, its well worth it

wombat
10-08-2008, 10:26 AM
Has anyone got any pics of the there interior with LEDS installed?
especially interested in a 2nd gen dash with blue leds and the rest of the interior with Whites.

opilot87
10-08-2008, 07:30 PM
4xT10 -back of instrument cluster - blue - wide angle
2xT5- shine down on instrument cluster - blue - dome
1x T5 - cig lighter - white - wide angle?
1x T5 - ash tray - white - wide angle?
2x T10 6 LED's - footwell lights - white - wide angle?
2x 31mm 9 LED festoon - interior light - wagon boot light - white - wide angle?
2x T10 - number plate lights - white - dome

Does that sound about right? Do i need wide angles or anything for these?
Still need to know the bulb type for parkers in 2nd gen paras, is it BA9S?
Also while im at it, what are the high beams and low beams in 2nd gen parras? is it h1 for high beam and h4 for low beam?
And also is replacing the bulbs in the tranny selecter hard and also the aircon controls?
Also what leds will fit in the map lights in the front? and the secondary lights on the interior light?
whoa thats alot of questions.

You are right about the 2nd gen para's, its H4 low/high and H1 high. The parkers I cant remember the code, but I think most cars have one of two types, and the paras have the little ones, unlike standard magnas. However my rear number plate light (I have a wagon) I think use the bigger parker bulbs.

BTW im also planning to do this very soon so its all helping me out too so I can get a list of parts that I need.

Ollie

wombat
11-08-2008, 01:35 PM
Thanks Ollie, that completes my list, the paras are the BA9S size for parkers, the normal headlights use T10 parkers i think.
The shops on ebay that maggie3.5 listed have all the bulbs required, give the sellers a list and see what they can do for you, should work out alot cheaper then going to autobarn etc.
Im gonna ask if they can do me deal next week when ive got some funds handy. Will reply with how i go and write a proper list of all the bulbs needed.

Magna_TR-Driver
11-08-2008, 08:16 PM
Has anyone got any pics of the there interior with LEDS installed?
especially interested in a 2nd gen dash with blue leds and the rest of the interior with Whites.

Here is a pic of my dash with blue leds in this thread.
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59063

fer0x
11-08-2008, 08:38 PM
Here is a pic of my dash with blue leds in this thread.
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59063
Or get some white dials off Omar while you're at it, and it'll look like this, they look better in real life, crappy phone pic
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3920/dsc00037qt5.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00037qt5.jpg)

wombat
16-08-2008, 09:50 PM
Just got a reply from an ebay seller on prices for LED's for a 2nd gen.
Do these prices seem reasonable?
This is a list of bulbs to replace para parkers, both interior lights in a wagon, footwell lights, all dash lights to blue, and rear numberplate lights.
Still gotta find someone who sells t15's to replace the interior maplights up front and the smaller spotlights that come off the main iterior light.


2 x 31mm 9-LED White Festoon - $20

2x T5 inverted - blue - $2.95 (T5 Flat-Top 3 LED)

4x t10 inverted - blue - $7.00

4 x Hi Power T10 W5W Wedge 6-Chip SMD LED Car Bulb White - $27.90

2x BA9S T4W 1895 Bayonet White 6-LED Dash Parker Bulbs - $9.95

So all up around $60 to replace the main lights in the car, not to bad i think.


Sound good anyone?

Nick
17-08-2008, 07:22 AM
Yeah that sounds alright mate, only thing I'd be worried about is the workmanship on them if they have been soldered etc.. as the cheaper things you get the more it's like a dogs breakfast but if there's no joining it should be all good.

wombat
05-11-2008, 12:05 PM
Bit of a threadmine but, one of my numberplate lights decided to give up the ghost so ive decided to give them the LED treatment instead, trouble is i cant work out what type of LED i should be replacing the bulbs with, the only info the mitsu book has is 12V 5w bayonet, anyone wanna point me in the right direction?

[TUFFTR]
05-11-2008, 03:04 PM
Bit of a threadmine but, one of my numberplate lights decided to give up the ghost so ive decided to give them the LED treatment instead, trouble is i cant work out what type of LED i should be replacing the bulbs with, the only info the mitsu book has is 12V 5w bayonet, anyone wanna point me in the right direction?
Its a T5 globe
But word of Advice, dont.
They will spot and look terrible.
I spent the money and put in a CCFL Tube Looks ****e hot.
Ill try find a pic eh

GT-Pete
05-11-2008, 03:13 PM
']Its a T5 globe
But word of Advice, dont.
They will spot and look terrible.
I spent the money and put in a CCFL Tube Looks ****e hot.
Ill try find a pic eh

Life's has directional single LED's and they look terrible, very rice and 'pull me over please'

I got white ones that have about 6 high power LED's and they spread out really well. Either CCFL like TUFFTR has suggested or proper LEDs are the way to go

Don't go blue unless you want trouble

[TUFFTR]
05-11-2008, 03:18 PM
If you have T5 LED License plate bulbs suck on my CCFL Tube road illumination...:D
This is why you KNOW its me from ages away lol
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/Illuminatioonnnn.jpg

GT-Pete
05-11-2008, 03:20 PM
Holy crap :shock:

[TUFFTR]
05-11-2008, 03:23 PM
hahahahahahhaha i love reactions like that.
To do it is simple, just throw me a PM

wombat
05-11-2008, 03:49 PM
Life's has directional single LED's and they look terrible, very rice and 'pull me over please'

I got white ones that have about 6 high power LED's and they spread out really well. Either CCFL like TUFFTR has suggested or proper LEDs are the way to go

Don't go blue unless you want trouble
Whats the size of your LED's? I cant find anything that is the same size as the bayonet i pulled off the car today?
Edit: Holy crap TUFF, thats way over the top:D

[TUFFTR]
05-11-2008, 03:58 PM
Whats the size of your LED's? I cant find anything that is the same size as the bayonet i pulled off the car today?
Edit: Holy crap TUFF, thats way over the top:D
yeah but it rocks lol :P
Do wagons still use T5 Wedge?
only smaller bayonet i can think of is the BA9S bulb as found in 2nd gen parabolic parkers
it should be in your handbook

wombat
05-11-2008, 04:18 PM
']yeah but it rocks lol :P
Do wagons still use T5 Wedge?
only smaller bayonet i can think of is the BA9S bulb as found in 2nd gen parabolic parkers
it should be in your handbook
Nah they don't, they use the same bulb as used in the brake lights, only the glass bulb is alot smaller, the same as in the parkers but a little bit bigger, so its the same as the brake and parra parker bulb but its in the middle of them both for size:P

[TUFFTR]
05-11-2008, 04:28 PM
Nah they don't, they use the same bulb as used in the brake lights, only the glass bulb is alot smaller, the same as in the parkers but a little bit bigger, so its the same as the brake and parra parker bulb but its in the middle of them both for size:P
check your manual to be 100% but it will be something like a ba15s or b15s

wombat
05-11-2008, 04:32 PM
']check your manual to be 100% but it will be something like a ba15s or b15s
book in the glovebox just says 12v 5w lol, same as the sedan.

wombat
24-02-2009, 09:32 AM
Another threadmine on my own thread, i just installed white needles on my dash, atm i only have my white LED's shining from the back of the cluster to light up the dash with none shining down on the front.
The LED's i had doing this were way to bright and it hurt my eyes to look at, the LED's i had shining on the front were the 6-LED type, if i switch to an inverted type LED will it put out less light but spread the light evenly enough to see the dash well? ATM i can only just make out the needles at night with just the back of the dash lit up.

GT-Pete
24-02-2009, 09:39 AM
Can't you just turn down the dimmer????

If you use single LED T5's for the 2 lights shining down on your cluster, it will light it up well and not be too bright...

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7492/img0165jb6.jpg

wombat
24-02-2009, 10:08 AM
Even with the dimmer all the way down is was still way to glarey, what type of single LED have you got in it? There is 2 types:
Dome: They direct the light onto a concentrated point.
Inverted: They spread the light out.

GT-Pete
24-02-2009, 10:31 AM
Even with the dimmer all the way down is was still way to glarey, what type of single LED have you got in it? There is 2 types:
Dome: They direct the light onto a concentrated point.
Inverted: They spread the light out.

inverted.....

see here (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=999633&postcount=790)

These are the ones I just re-ordered for mine as one of mine is busted.

You want the biggest ones in that auction...

And my bad, you want T5 not T6....

wombat
24-02-2009, 12:42 PM
Ah cool thanks, do you remember which size out of them it is in those neo wedge ones to change the dash clock? T3 or something isn't it?

GT-Pete
24-02-2009, 12:45 PM
Ah cool thanks, do you remember which size out of them it is in those neo wedge ones to change the dash clock? T3 or something isn't it?

Yep T3, the baby ones..... there are 2 in the clock. go white!

Life
24-02-2009, 01:03 PM
Hmm, I think its time to do the rest of my lights now :P Might do them tonight.

Madmagna
24-02-2009, 01:28 PM
When I did my KR I used all LED's from Jaycar with resistors. I soldered them all into the clobe holders so they would not come loose and also turned them all side on so as not to get hot spots (bright spots) Did everything including climate control etc and looked awsome

[TUFFTR]
24-02-2009, 01:57 PM
Hmm, I think its time to do the rest of my lights now :P Might do them tonight.
You need to spend less money on LED's and more money paying off your loan so you can afford a FASTER CAR!

Mal - That is something I will get around to. However can't right now :P

Life
24-02-2009, 02:05 PM
']You need to spend less money on LED's and more money paying off your loan so you can afford a FASTER CAR!

Mal - That is something I will get around to. However can't right now :P

Not spending anything, I have a bunch of xenon white wedge LED's left over, like 12 of them :P