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lowrider
26-08-2008, 12:08 PM
hey guys im about to buy a wrecked magna, using it for 3.5L conversion and manual conversion.
the doner car has a lot less KMS on it, since im transferring over the engine, gearbox, drivetrain. i want to transfer over the odometer, to prove that the engine as infact done less KMS than my old one. how would i go about proving this? im assuming i will need a engineers certificate after i get the engine in, can he certify that that the new odometer belongs to the new engine?
Killzone
26-08-2008, 12:40 PM
hey guys im about to buy a wrecked magna, using it for 3.5L conversion and manual conversion.
the doner car has a lot less KMS on it, since im transferring over the engine, gearbox, drivetrain. i want to transfer over the odometer, to prove that the engine as infact done less KMS than my old one. how would i go about proving this? im assuming i will need a engineers certificate after i get the engine in, can he certify that that the new odometer belongs to the new engine?
Well you're not changing the car... Other parts wear out, ball joints, cvs.. If I was buying a car, I would like to see the original odo with special mention as to when the engine was changed and how many k's it had.
You can replace it with the new odo if you want one that accurate to the engine and gearbox. To make it legal as such you'd need to get a certificate stating the odo of the original cluster when removed and the starting value of the new cluster. Not sure where you'd go to get that done, I suppose mechanics or maybe mitsu could organise that for you?
lowrider
26-08-2008, 12:47 PM
those parts are being changed too, engine, gearbox, drive shafts, including CV's, Diff, suspension, even exhaust is being replaced.
hey guys im about to buy a wrecked magna, using it for 3.5L conversion and manual conversion.
the doner car has a lot less KMS on it, since im transferring over the engine, gearbox, drivetrain. i want to transfer over the odometer, to prove that the engine as infact done less KMS than my old one. how would i go about proving this? im assuming i will need a engineers certificate after i get the engine in, can he certify that that the new odometer belongs to the new engine?
Can you get a service record for the car? That will be your best estimate. I once had to
replace the odometer on my TP as the left-most cog is broken so that it was rotating at
the same rate as the one on its right. I rang VDO and they said to bring the latest service
papers which was adequate to dial the replacement to have the correct left most digit.
MicJaiy
26-08-2008, 12:54 PM
those parts are being changed too, engine, gearbox, drive shafts, including CV's, Diff, suspension, even exhaust is being replaced.
even the chassis???
I agree with killzone on this one. Or do what Lugo has said.
So if you decide to sell, as long as whoever buys the car off you is completely aware of how many kms it has done in total.
lowrider
26-08-2008, 01:06 PM
Can you get a service record for the car? That will be your best estimate. I once had to
replace the odometer on my TP as the left-most cog is broken so that it was rotating at
the same rate as the one on its right. I rang VDO and they said to bring the latest service
papers which was adequate to dial the replacement to have the correct left most digit.
yeah, he has full logs books, and he can get a record for me. that will help thanks mate.
even the chassis???
I agree with killzone on this one. Or do what Lugo has said.
So if you decide to sell, as long as whoever buys the car off you is completely aware of how many kms it has done in total.
yeah i aggree that the next owner should be aware of its original KMS, im not doggey, but i would like the car to be recognised by the potential buyer, of its new condition.
by the time im finished, the whole car would have been replaced, minus the shell. lol
Chisholm
26-08-2008, 02:39 PM
Mate, even if you are replacing the motor, gearbox, cvs etc, IMO you are far better off leaving the odo alone. The chassis, body, crossmember, control arms, brake calipers/booster/lines, hoses, electrial system, interior etc etc have done the kays. You may well end up replacing many parts of the car, but there will always plenty/more things you havn't replaced.
It is much better practice to leave the kms, and explain to potential buyers later that the motor and running gear is fresher. Having a lower odo reading that doesn't reflect the true kms of the car gives a really bad impression to potential buyers, it short it just screams dodgy and will drive potential buyers away.
I know a lower odo reading looks better and lets you pretend your car is newer than it is, but seriously, just don't :)
doddski
26-08-2008, 04:37 PM
i was under the impression that the odo was more there to tell how many kms the body had done, and that the engine was serviced conveniently at intervals along the bodys life - thats what one of my car mates said to me.
just leave the original odo on it, and when it comes time to sell, tell people that it has xxxxx lower kms on the motor than the odo states as you swapped out motors along the way.
91ows
26-08-2008, 04:43 PM
i have an odo with a reading 0000015 sitting in my garage came with my conversion kit
lowrider
26-08-2008, 11:42 PM
thanks guys, mabey ill just keep the new OD and when i sell it eventually, i will just whip it out and show them, + logs books from the the donor car
the odometer MUST stay with the car at the correct kilometre-age (sp?), regardless of the engine. It is the chassis that has done the distance rather than the engine. Well thats the wa the authorities see it
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