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SupremeMoFo
28-08-2008, 05:35 PM
Thinking about alternatives to just slapping it on the MAF.
One idea was to cut the front of the intake tract off and gut the factory filter and thoroughly clean the other half of the intake box, and probably add some silicone to seal it. ie, attach it here -

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Or, modify the factory filter to a solid plastic plate, and seal that with silicone or plastic welding and then remove the intake tract and the front panel of the airbox. Thoughts?

Trotty
28-08-2008, 05:41 PM
Get a K&N panel and be done with it... looks good as it is.

SupremeMoFo
28-08-2008, 05:47 PM
Nah. Apexi > K&N, and I want induction noise. Pod filter barely any more expensive. Besides, that stupid intract is going no matter what.

wastedhello
28-08-2008, 07:48 PM
i hope its still an oval pod and is designed for the magna, otherwise your gonna have bulk problems with your MAF.

but apart from that, obviously it way to much effort for whats it worth,
but if you enjoy that kinda of thing then who cares about the effort if its fun.

i say you can always give it a go coz if you stuff up replacing those pieces from a wrecker will be bugger all and if it works it should be pretty sweet.

magna00
28-08-2008, 07:53 PM
the fact that you said silicon made me giggle, if you are going to do it, do it properly so remove the old airbox to the maf, then you can either manufacture an adaptor to fit up to the MAF or you can purchase them from NA parts for around 18 bucks delievered, then fit the pod to that. Or you purchase some 75mm Silicon piping (aka intercooling piping) then get the maf cabling lengthened then place the pod in your front bar.

besides that pods are clowns who cant be bothered getting real induction noise.


oh EDIT. DO not ever ever ever use a sealant of any kind in an intake tract, cos if a dag comes loose and gets into the motor, could do some serious damage. And K&N > jap pods read any decent engine modification book and they will tell you K&n's flow is far superior.

SupremeMoFo
28-08-2008, 08:09 PM
... how do you get real induction noise without getting a 6 butterfly intake then?

As for K&N>all, not everyone agrees.

i hope its still an oval pod and is designed for the magna, otherwise your gonna have bulk problems with your MAF.If you believe RPW's sales pitch. As has been said elsewhere on these forums there's no problems unless there's something covering the honeycomb of the MAF...

magna00
28-08-2008, 08:22 PM
... how do you get real induction noise without getting a 6 butterfly intake then?

As for K&N>all, not everyone agrees.
If you believe RPW's sales pitch. As has been said elsewhere on these forums there's no problems unless there's something covering the honeycomb of the MAF...

The k&n>all extents further then jap ricer boys with there 20 dollar pods, Graham Bell, did quite a bit of testing with different filter medians and found that K&N outflowed even an unfiltered control test, reason being that it eliminated a dead spot in the air intake, also countless of engine builders, engineers, mechanics use K&N, that alone is enough to convince me. or you can get a Jap foam pod that will fall apart within 12 months and the glue around the edges of the plastic come off.

And the trick of getting real induction noise is to save your pennies rather then spending on worthless mods that will just get you pulled up by the police.

SupremeMoFo
28-08-2008, 08:25 PM
**** it, fine, I'll just replace the panel filter and hack off the ****ing intake tract... sheesh

The Apexi filter isn't a foam POS, BTW.

And the trick of getting real induction noise is to save your pennies rather then spending on worthless mods that will just get you pulled up by the police.Doesn't answer the question.

mozzaldinho
28-08-2008, 08:26 PM
The k&n>all extents further then jap ricer boys with there 20 dollar pods, Graham Bell, did quite a bit of testing with different filter medians and found that K&N outflowed even an unfiltered control test, reason being that it eliminated a dead spot in the air intake, also countless of engine builders, engineers, mechanics use K&N, that alone is enough to convince me. or you can get a Jap foam pod that will fall apart within 12 months and the glue around the edges of the plastic come off.

And the trick of getting real induction noise is to save your pennies rather then spending on worthless mods that will just get you pulled up by the police.

some of us dont want to spend money on a money pit, for really not a lot of speed and the need to be different...

sorry we dont all have superchargers your greatness. you make fair points about k&n etc...but either help him or just dont comment.

Ashneel
28-08-2008, 08:33 PM
Nah. Apexi > K&N

bwahahahahahahaahahahahahahha

my sides hurt from laughter

mate in a magna it wouldnt matter what pod you have. if you just want induction noise i bought a $15 pod from super cheap which wade as equal noise as a K&N and Apexi filter

lol Apexi>K&N

SupremeMoFo
28-08-2008, 08:35 PM
mate in a magna it wouldnt matter what pod you have.Exactly, hence the stupid reply...

magna00
28-08-2008, 08:36 PM
some of us dont want to spend money on a money pit, for really not a lot of speed and the need to be different...

sorry we dont all have superchargers your greatness. you make fair points about k&n etc...but either help him or just dont comment.

i did help him, i made him realise that rather then post stupid threads about rice filters just the s e a r c h button there are countless threads on pods and whatnot

SupremeMoFo
28-08-2008, 08:38 PM
No, you didn't. All I've ever found is freaking out over RPW's scare tactics about the MAF and some people who contradict that but SFA in the way of alternative setups.

mozzaldinho
28-08-2008, 08:39 PM
i did help him, i made him realise that rather then post stupid threads about rice filters just the s e a r c h button there are countless threads on pods and whatnot

you didnt say once to use the search button, u just said save your money to get a real induction noise...

Ashneel
28-08-2008, 08:40 PM
anyways kiddies

supermofo if you want induction noise get the pod to the front of the bar. atleast that way you will get nice cool air plus the induction noise will be heard from the outside.

but if you search on CAI you will see a fair bit of thread with CAI setups with a pod which will give you induction noise if thats all your after

magna00
28-08-2008, 08:41 PM
No, you didn't. All I've ever found is freaking out over RPW's scare tactics about the MAF and some people who contradict that but SFA in the way of alternative setups.

i never said you have to use the Kn99-1500, you can use any 4 inch pod, so long as you have the required adaptor to suit it, but the pod that you do chose does require a flat top end, also you said you wanted to just ram it on the snorkel and silicon it on thats what i was going on, that and the fact you said japcrap>k&n

Lucifer
28-08-2008, 08:42 PM
Just cable tie a shirt over your MAF... That'll give you some sick induction noise.

mozzaldinho
28-08-2008, 08:43 PM
i never said you have to use the Kn99-1500, you can use any 4 inch pod, so long as you have the required adaptor to suit it, but the pod that you do chose does require a flat top end, also you said you wanted to just ram it on the snorkel and silicon it on thats what i was going on, that and the fact you said japcrap>k&n

most useful and helpful thing you have posted in this thread.

when u say ram it on the end of the snorkel, is this a no no, or is this something you do - if not when u attached the pod to the int piping, does the MAF stay i the same place?

magna00
28-08-2008, 08:45 PM
most useful and helpful thing you have posted in this thread.

when u say ram it on the end of the snorkel, is this a no no, or is this something you do - if not when u attached the pod to the int piping, does the MAF stay i the same place?

If you decide to use a pod you remove the old airfilter box, attach a metal adaptor to the MAF that is the correct one for the mitsi maf (18 bucks NA parts) then attach pod to that, there is other ways like building a box or use intercooler piping to run it to the front bar. The OP said he was going to ram it on there, that kind of stupidity deserves to get flamed

SupremeMoFo
28-08-2008, 08:46 PM
Right... panel filter and some extra piping it is on account of the fact that noone's willing to consider alternatives. Cheers to Mozza for being able to read, magna00 I seriously suggest you brush up on your skim reading skills if you're only picking up every 5th word (on a good post).

(if any mods brush past, you can lock the thread)

mozzaldinho
28-08-2008, 08:47 PM
If you decide to use a pod you remove the old airfilter box, attach a metal adaptor to the MAF that is the correct one for the mitsi maf (18 bucks NA parts) then attach pod to that, there is other ways like building a box or use intercooler piping to run it to the front bar. The OP said he was going to ram it on there, that kind of stupidity deserves to get flamed

some of us are not of great knowledge in these area's as u, just dont be so harsh, it was an idea. Use your knowledge for the better, not for the flaming!

anyway, when its in a box, wont it get all hot and wont engine heat just make it suck hot air?

magna00
28-08-2008, 08:52 PM
some of us are not of great knowledge in these area's as u, just dont be so harsh, it was an idea. Use your knowledge for the better, not for the flaming!

anyway, when its in a box, wont it get all hot and wont engine heat just make it suck hot air?

depends, if you run piping from a negative pressure zone (aka front bar, etc) then no unless the box is made out of very thick steel, the moving air wont get a chance to heat up enough to make a noticeable difference to it. If you are paranoid about heatsoak use some silver heat reflecting tape (can get it from any auto shop or Air conditioning mob) and wrap the entire intake system, it might look a tad weird but will do the job. The only decent podbox ive seen for the magnas is the ezboy podbox and a custom made blowmould CF unit.

There is a lesson here, before posting you should really use the good ol serach button most general questions in the way of modifiying has already been covered numerous times, if then you cannot find what your after then post.

BJ31OS
28-08-2008, 08:57 PM
This thread is ****ing pathetic people need to use the search button there is a million threads on this and where to locate it.

But im willing to try and clear some things up

On another note i have had both POD and Panel K&N filters and i can tell you there is no difference power wise between them but the pod did make some nice intake noise, but it is illegal and if you want to have trouble with the police get a pod (as they will check if you have a POD)if you dont want them to bother you stay with a panel simple as that.

On the other hand where you wanted to put the pod if you do use silicone to create a seal the gases produced by some types of silicone can have a negative affect on the engines performance hence you will lose more power.

Also having the pod in the engine bay will suck hot air in and will have a negative affect (hence its call cold air intake not hot air intake)
the only benefit you will see from a pod is if you have it located in the front bumper but still the gains are the same as a panel filter.

no one take offense just stating the facts

magna00
28-08-2008, 09:06 PM
This thread is ****ing pathetic people need to use the search button there is a million threads on this and where to locate it.

But im willing to try and clear some things up

On another note i have had both POD and Panel K&N filters and i can tell you there is no difference power wise between them but the pod did make some nice intake noise, but it is illegal and if you want to have trouble with the police get a pod (as they will check if you have a POD)if you dont want them to bother you stay with a panel simple as that.

On the other hand where you wanted to put the pod if you do use silicone to create a seal the gases produced by some types of silicone can have a negative affect on the engines performance hence you will lose more power.

Also having the pod in the engine bay will suck hot air in and will have a negative affect (hence its call cold air intake not hot air intake)
the only benefit you will see from a pod is if you have it located in the front bumper but still the gains are the same as a panel filter.

no one take offense just stating the facts
:stoopid:

SupremeMoFo
28-08-2008, 09:07 PM
Ah for ****s sake. I was just looking for NEW ideas for places to put a pod filter, as I HAVE searched and noone has really bothered as far as I can tell - either just go the RPW route or just sit around bitching that they don't have the money and they'd love to do this, that and the other but frankly have no intentions of doing anything other than putting petrol in the car. magna00, I never said anything about just glueing the bloody thing on with silicon - I was going to use a 75mm adapter and the gaskets which are supplied with them so they work.

magna00
28-08-2008, 09:09 PM
and seal that with silicone or plastic welding and then remove the intake tract

There you go

SupremeMoFo
28-08-2008, 09:11 PM
That wasn't the filter itself!

BJ31OS
28-08-2008, 09:11 PM
Ah for ****s sake. I was just looking for NEW ideas for places to put a pod filter, as I HAVE searched and noone has really bothered as far as I can tell - either just go the RPW route or just sit around bitching that they don't have the money and they'd love to do this, that and the other but frankly have no intentions of doing anything other than putting petrol in the car. magna00, I never said anything about just glueing the bloody thing on with silicon - I was going to use a 75mm adapter and the gaskets which are supplied with them so they work.

As stated i have done both and it wasn't a RPW one i made my own up so dont jump to conclusions.I think i have enough evidence to back up my post.


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