Sifting around the palettes at work today, I found one near the back of the warehouse with an old automatic transmission sitting on it. He says it was from a TE Magna, but the orientation and "F4A33" part number gave it away as a TS box.

Now, apparently it's stuffed somehow. lol The sump has been removed but the remaining oil in the bottom looked a little dark. No visible metal shards around the gearbox. For all I know it could be as simple as the solenoid pack.

However it is free to take as I wish. So... is there anything I should check inside the box, while the sump is off, that could indicate mechanical damage or an electrical fault (such as solenoids)?

The existing trans filter is still sitting there but I have yet to give it a good inspection. I assume this will be a good indication, but the filter aside, any other signs of wear to look out for.

Cheers.

is the sump of the box still there? check the magnets in the sump.... as ffar as i know thats the only guide to wear and tear...:doubt: without a teardown.

Sump of the box is still there. Didn't see any metal chunks or shards in the pan when I checked it a few days ago. Judging by a look at one of the gears (just one, others aren't visible) the gearbox seems to be in pretty good nick.

Yet he still says it's defective. Perhaps I should get in touch with the original owner for a more detailed explanation, could be an electrical issue.

Sump of the box is still there. Didn't see any metal chunks or shards in the pan when I checked it a few days ago. Judging by a look at one of the gears (just one, others aren't visible) the gearbox seems to be in pretty good nick.

Yet he still says it's defective. Perhaps I should get in touch with the original owner for a more detailed explanation, could be an electrical issue.

I'd get it and tear it down, Always wanted to do that! then you can have a looksies yourself

it might be worth getting it checked over by a transmishion place

']I'd get it and tear it down, Always wanted to do that! then you can have a looksies yourself


Yeah get dirty and replace the parts yourself, give it a good clean out, make it shiny!

Take photos, make a log, make sure you remember where you pulled this from etc

If no time or no knowledge, pay an auto place - will cost a few hundred probably

Clean an area at work or home and dismantle it with heaps and heaps of photos! It would be a real benifit to the club.

May well just do that, i'd like to get it up and running if the damage is minimal, that way I can swap it out with my existing TR automatic. Even if it isn't any good I could still swap out the overdrive assembly, etc.

Found the Torque Converter to go with it as well, looks to be in pretty decent shape. I'll pick that up ASAP.

Is it the Astron auto?

I haven't a clue really. Could be Astron, could be V6.

I'm going to state the obvious and say I know jack all about these transmissions. Only one i've seen up close was in a wreckers car and even then it was caked in oil. lol

On a side note, is it even remotely possible for a FWD Magna to oversteer? :P

Lift off oversteer, **** yeah! Also quickly flicking it through S bends will do it if you arn't careful. You can't power oversteer though, it will just power understeer :cry:

I miss fishies :bowrofl:

Ah, so i'm not crazy then. lol Been told to adjust the steering since it's oversteering a little.

I can't take this transmission for a while yet since we're in the process of packing up and moving out, but they've agreed to hold it for me until I can take it.

I had a faint glimmer of hope there that the transmission may be serviceable, and it may well be, as I did want to throw it into my TR. It's a 2.6, but i'm not sure if it's a 2.6 or 3.0 box. Any major difference?

Otherwise I may as well just get a decent box from the wreckers.

Pretty sure the transmission in my TR 2.6 has seen better days. A strange whirring sound, possibly the torque converter, plus the good old TR vibration which i'm positive is the result of the transmission. Finally, with overdrive on, it revs up, clunks, revs up, clunks, revs up...

For some reason though, I can't make myself sell this car. lol It's the kind of car you would want to hang on to if anything for the fact it has a reconditioned motor, aftermarket sound system and an sports exhaust.

Here's a few pics of the TS transmission on the palette, including a photo of the transmission fluid and a shot of one of the gears. Hopefully they will be of help. Just keep in mind those black spots in the transmission fluid aren't metal chunks, rather grease which I cleaned off the transmission prior to the pics. (I stepped on them to check, they smeared across the palette)

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/585/img0291rh2.th.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/585/img0291rh2.jpg) http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8634/img0292mr3.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8634/img0292mr3.jpg) http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2113/img0297uu6.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2113/img0297uu6.jpg) http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1159/img0298dr9.th.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1159/img0298dr9.jpg)

Out of curiosity would this bolt up to a TR 2.6, even if it had come off a V6 motor? Quick search around doesn't tell me it wouldn't but some up to date confirmation would be nice.

Cheers

I can tell you right now, that is 100% NOT a V6 gearbox, I was positive the asstron ones looked different but I'm no expert in the 4cyl field :P

Ah, so i'm not crazy then. lol Been told to adjust the steering since it's oversteering a little.

I can't take this transmission for a while yet since we're in the process of packing up and moving out, but they've agreed to hold it for me until I can take it.

I had a faint glimmer of hope there that the transmission may be serviceable, and it may well be, as I did want to throw it into my TR. It's a 2.6, but i'm not sure if it's a 2.6 or 3.0 box. Any major difference?

Otherwise I may as well just get a decent box from the wreckers.

The F4A33 was fitted to injected Astrons, and the 3.0 V6. I'm not sure if the internals are any different, they probably are, to cope with the increased torque.

The F4A33 was fitted to injected Astrons, and the 3.0 V6. I'm not sure if the internals are any different, they probably are, to cope with the increased torque.

Bellhousing is completely different, V6's have the water tube down the middle so needs the cutout at the top, transmission looks like so
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/dodgeviper89/manualGBV6.jpg

I dont think it is magna to be honest, looks nothing like the TS one in my garage.

With all that crap in the valve body, it is a throw out unit as will cost more to fix than is worth given you can get one from a self serv wrecker with warranty for under 200 bucks

True, and i've found a few decent gearboxes at one of the local self serve wreckers for about that price range. I'll probably just leave that one on the palette and let them take it for scrap.

Looking at it close up I wasn't too sure if it was a Magna 2.6 gearbox. From the back it looks the same as the one currently fitted in the car, from the opposite side it looks nothing like any Magna boxes i've seen during wreckers trips. They said it was a TS 4-speed anyway so it was worth a shot.

Cheers for the assistance anyway, looks like it'll stay there.

The v6's have the starter motor at the front, 2.6 at the back.The numbers for the autos are F4A23 - 2 LPN 2.6 carby , F4A33-1 MPN1 2.6 EFI and F4A33-1 MPN V6 and that transmission is not from a Magna.

The v6's have the starter motor at the front, 2.6 at the back.The numbers for the autos are F4A23 - 2 LPN 2.6 carby , F4A33-1 MPN1 2.6 EFI and F4A33-1 MPN V6 and that transmission is not from a Magna.

Cheers, i'll keep the part numbers in mind when scouring the yards. (although shouldn't need them, even for the wreckers replacement it's just a matter of finding a TR/TS 2.6 and lifting one out)

Not from a Magna, didn't think so. Could have been confused with one of the other transmissions around there. Probably out of a Camry or something rather for all we know. lol The photos here are the first good look I had at it, degreased and clear of dust, straight away something didn't seem completely right about it.

If it was any good I would have taken it anyway, could always use it when the right application could be found, since it isn't though it can go to scrap.

I thought so...
What gave it away to me were the bellhousing bolts, I remember that even on the 4 bangers they had the same sort of bolt hole design (so to say) as the V6, with the bolt holes sort of protruding out of the case where as this one has all the holes withing a circle.
Anyhoo...