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MadMax
13-09-2008, 10:12 AM
windscreen problem - start burst at eye level, one corner cracked.
I've replaced screens before, using the butyl tape with wire down the middle and 2 car batteries. This was years ago - modern cars have their screens glued in differently, I believe. Is it used in a caulking gun, and if so what is it called, is it easily available and how long does it take to cure?
Any info will be appreciated!!

SARRAS
13-09-2008, 01:20 PM
They're epoxied in on the Magnas. Mate just ring Windscreens O'Brien - they'll come out, rip the old one out and fit a new one exact to factory specification for less than $200.

thebowler30005
13-09-2008, 07:32 PM
what about the leaf guard at the bottom mine has been worn away around near the screen and i took it off and my wipers some of its sticky some not where do u get new ones of leafy stopper and do these get glued back in??

fer0x
13-09-2008, 07:44 PM
agreed with windscreens obrien
surprisingly good quotes
when i needed a replacement i checked all the other companies i could find and obriens was atleast $40 cheaper than any others, at times around $100 cheaper

didnt end up going with them though cos insurance ended up covering it and sent me to instant


cant help if you wanna DIY though

SARRAS
13-09-2008, 08:03 PM
what about the leaf guard at the bottom mine has been worn away around near the screen and i took it off and my wipers some of its sticky some not where do u get new ones of leafy stopper and do these get glued back in??

Mitsubishi!

The plastic covers (with rubber strips) for the plenum (what you're calling leaf guards)

Part #: MI-AW341268 - Garnish ASSY-DECK-RH: $15.62 Plus GST
Part #: MI-AW341267 - Garnish ASSY-DECK-LH: $17.51 Plus GST

while you're at it you might need some of these also:

Wiper Arms and Blades and Washer Jets

Wiper Arm Driver’s Side – MR 908437 $30 plus GST
Blade Assembly Driver’s Side – MR 908441 $13.20 plus GST
Wiper Arm Passenger’s Side – MR 908436 $28 plus GST
Blade Assembly Passenger’s Side – MR 908440 $13.20 plus GST
Nozzle Assembly (Nozzle, Filter, Tubing) – MR 922297 $10.70 plus GST (Each)

MadMax
14-09-2008, 06:30 AM
"leavy covers" or plenum covers are held in by plastic screws, not glued in. There are plenty of them at the wreckers. The plastic screws strip easily so use minimal force to unscrew them. Any damaged ones can be replaced by christmas tree plugs on reassembly.
Windscreen problem - OK, O'briens it is - but FIRST I want to try superglue - I might be able to stop that crack from spreading! :nuts:

Blackbird
14-09-2008, 09:40 PM
"leavy covers" or plenum covers are held in by plastic screws, not glued in. There are plenty of them at the wreckers. The plastic screws strip easily so use minimal force to unscrew them. Any damaged ones can be replaced by christmas tree plugs on reassembly.
Windscreen problem - OK, O'briens it is - but FIRST I want to try superglue - I might be able to stop that crack from spreading! :nuts:


Super glue will absorb moisture then peel off...Useless......

If the star crack is fresh... place some sticky tape on it to keep it clean inside... sooner you do this after a crack starts the better it will look when repaired.

Take it to windscreens obrien and they can fix the star at a fraction of the cost of a new screen. if you protected it from getting water and dirt inside... you won't see the repair without deliberately looking for it... (And looking real hard)

If the star has been there a while and not protected... change the screen...

Steve

spud100
15-09-2008, 07:09 AM
Glue is not an epoxy.

It is an air curing type of rubber.

Yes you could do it yourself, but only if you have done this type of thing before.

Actually not hard, probably easier than taking out a screen fitted in a separate rubber strip.

1) Remove garnish trims all around.
2) Using a special hooked knife, cut all around the screen through the glue.
3) Lift out screen.
4) Clean around opening.
5) Prepare edge of new screen with solvent.
6) Gun shaped bead of new sealant around edge of new screen.
7) Carefully lift screen into place.
8) Depending on the garnish type it may be necessary to fit this first.
9) Make sure that screen is in the correct place. Usually there are a couple of adjustment blocks at the bottom. It will be necessary to lift the screen up against gravity to ensure that the gap between the screen edge and the windscreen opening is correct.
10) Fit bottom leafguard trims.
11) Leave car for several hours before driving.


Gerry

MadMax
19-09-2008, 06:51 PM
3M windo-weld comes in rolls, 15 feet, in sizes 1/4 inch upwards.
Haven't yet found details like availability in Aus, suitable diameter for Magna screen, or curing time.
Anyone used this material?

Nemesis
19-09-2008, 08:07 PM
Spud100 - I've done this a few times on beamers and its a ****house job to do especially when the cars are more than a few years old, because it makes cutting the sealant quite difficult and then again to cut the sealant back to almost the windscreen frame and flatten it out.

The best stuff I've used for sealant is Sika-Flex 225 Extra and prepare the surfaces with Sika - Activator - don't worry about using the Cleaner 205 or Primer 206, Activator does a good enough job on its own.

I'd also use a good quality masking tape and tape 3 strips from the top quarter of the windscreen to the roof (doesn't need to be far) to avoid the windscreen shifting before it sets.

MadMax
20-09-2008, 07:04 AM
Nemesis - I have done this job several times, and yes, it is difficult, especially as a one man job. I know about the difficulty in removing the old screen and preparing the frame and new screen.
I have used the butyl tape with wire in it that needs 2 car batteries hooked up to it when it is all in place, many years ago. I'm looking for a more up to date method, and the air cure 3M tape seems to be it - much easier than running a bead of anything around the frame, as this method can give you inconsistent results - it ends up too narrow in some spots and oozes too much in others.

MadMax
20-09-2008, 07:08 AM
Also a good idea to reuse the rubber blocks at the base of the windscreen to hold it in place while the adhesive sets, as well as the strips of masking tape at the top.

Nemesis
20-09-2008, 09:37 AM
I've not really had a problem with the consistency of the thickness of the sealant bead as I've used a air powered caulking gun. I've also tried a method that uses wires to cut the sealant but it doesn't always work.

The Sika-Flex 225 Extra seals solid in about 4 to 5 hours time.

Mrmacomouto
20-09-2008, 11:50 AM
Always worth checking your insurance to see if they will provide you with a no claim windscreen.

Madmagna
21-09-2008, 12:02 PM
For pity sake, the screen is a structural part of the car, dont mess with it.

The old heat seals are ideal for cars like my 68 Fairmont.

The sealant used in newer cars is eurathne and is designed to flex with the body. The screen holds the body rigid

If you are paying more than $180 you are being ripped off. For anyone in the eastern suburbs I can hook you up with a new screen fitted for around $170 for a third or second gen. He comes to you, guarentees his work and has done around 10 screens on cars for me with no issues.

TJ Sports
21-09-2008, 01:38 PM
im getting the windscreen on my XR6 replaced and its only 175 through RACV auto glass with lifetime warranty, plus 10 for a new top mould like madmagna says its cheap and they come to u.