Team,

Good news for people like Foozrcool, Knotched, BloodAsp and all other enthusiastic owners.

The TMR380 Supercharger kit is now available separately from TMR Australia.

There web site simply states

We are now selling the
Supercharger kits from the
TMR380 as an option.

However there is no other info online yet re price or other.

Go for it, this is great news.

*#^%@&^!@&*!@)(@!@

Wow!! I'm gonna ring tomorrow!! :cool:

Team,

Good news for people like Foozrcool, Knotched, BloodAsp and all other enthusiastic owners.

The TMR380 Supercharger kit is now available separately from TMR Australia.

There web site simply states

We are now selling the
Supercharger kits from the
TMR380 as an option.

However there is no other info online yet re price or other.

Go for it, this is great news.
Where is it on their website???? I couldn't find it????

Go to http://www.tmraustralia.com/

On the front page in orange text between the EVO 9 pics you will find

We are now selling the
Supercharger kits from the
TMR380 as an option.

Cool, thanks I missed that. I will try to ring to get details, I emailed them about two weeks ago about an LSD plus the superchargers etc with no reply.

Foozrcool, I fear you may not get a good reply from TMR.

My fear is around you removing your pre cats. They may view selling a Supercharger to you as a bad move from public relations / legislative perspective due to the fact they need to be seen as complying to ADR and emission control laws due to their link with MMAL.

Also they may fear any and all calibration data they have will not match the rest of your mods such as the lack of pre cats and oversized throttle body.

Also, I hope this is not a bad sign, but the Sprintex web site is offline

Good Luck

The Sprintex site is now loading, but is very slow.

Nah she'll be right. I spoke to Alan Heaphy when the TMR's were released & told him about my extractors etc. He said it would f**king fly with extractors & then told me about the up & coming kits, so I don't think that will be a problem. They obviously have the technology to retune the ecu to suit & he also told me he had people in QLD that could do the install.

Nah she'll be right. I spoke to Alan Heaphy when the TMR's were released & told him about my extractors etc. He said it would f**king fly with extractors & then told me about the up & coming kits, so I don't think that will be a problem. They obviously have the technology to retune the ecu to suit & he also told me he had people in QLD that could do the install.
what are you waiting for?? shouldnt you already be on your way to the TMR factory to pick up one when they open in the morning?? Dont forget to order your 5mm smaller s/c pulley for that extra punch!

Nah she'll be right. I spoke to Alan Heaphy when the TMR's were released & told him about my extractors etc. He said it would f**king fly with extractors & then told me about the up & coming kits, so I don't think that will be a problem. They obviously have the technology to retune the ecu to suit & he also told me he had people in QLD that could do the install.
I think it will still ****ing fly without extractors too lol

Raptor is doing up a kit for the 380 as well.

Raptor is doing up a kit for the 380 as well.
I thought Tradewind said something along the lines of "if somebody could get around the 380 ecu" coz that is the secret to it all. It runs half the frigin car & loves to throw up CEL's whenever it isn't in a good mood ...... something like a woman :redface: :bowrofl:

PS - Haven't rang TMR yet, extremely busy day, will call tomorrow about these kits.

hey fooz find out how much for a whole kit but not fitted. im interested.

Don't worry I have a whole list of questions especially since mine won't be a bolt straight up standard install if I go ahead. I want proper ecu tuning with no f**king CEL lights! :rant: :badgrin:

fair enough.lol but youll miss it. you wont have your moirning shout at the car.lol

I'm telling you now I won't miss it! It's been there for about a year now. The other night I was driving & the low fuel light came on, I thought cool, at least now I have a yellow light on both sides, looks symetrical lol

I'm telling you now I won't miss it! It's been there for about a year now. The other night I was driving & the low fuel light came on, I thought cool, at least now I have a yellow light on both sides, looks symetrical lol

:bowrofl: Did they wink at you?

No but then they began to glow red & the sky went dark & I started hearing voices in my head .................... :gtfo:

If it was me i would of ripped that mongrel out by now, luckily i havent had mine come on at all and hope to god i never do.

But the guys running Piggyback Ecu's shouldnt have an issue running blowers, there would have to be a way around the CEL.


+1 for removing it haha

Ok boys & girls this is the deal.

Buy the TMR380 supercharger kit for $4940 (DIY install will void Sprintex warranty however)
TMR's installed price on a standard unmodded 380 is $5985. Dealers in other states may charge more or less depending on their labour rates.

In modded cars with extractors/exhaust etc (like mine) you will need to outlay an additional $550 to have another magic black box built into the supercharger ecu so it can be tuned. This ecu talks directly to the factory ecu so no 7th injector needed.

I'm seriously thinking about this & if I go ahead my Unichip Q will be up for sale for anyone who wants to stay N/A but with mods.

make sure you take it to the strip first. I am sure others who wanna stay N/A would be curious about what yours can do now

i think its def worth paying the extra cash to get tmr to installed it, only around an extra grand and then u get a full warrante,

i think its great there are some good performance options coming out for the 380 so early with so few ever produced

i think its def worth paying the extra cash to get tmr to installed it, only around an extra grand and then u get a full warrante,

i think its great there are some good performance options coming out for the 380 so early with so few ever produced

Did they mention anything about factory warranty?
aka the 5/10?

also i take it will be un intercooled like the 3rd gen units?

6 grand....god i'm tempted but why can't they make the current chip in my case a unichip q talk to the s/c ecu?

I wonder how many extra KW we could wrabgle out by getting the engine s/c, i'd hazard a guess at maybe 30kw....mmm a 250kw 380...ph34r teh power!!!!

6 grand....god i'm tempted but why can't they make the current chip in my case a unichip q talk to the s/c ecu?

I wonder how many extra KW we could wrabgle out by getting the engine s/c, i'd hazard a guess at maybe 30kw....mmm a 250kw 380...ph34r teh power!!!!

If it will be anything like the 3rd gen sprintex, the scope for getting extra power will be limited until you crack the motor open. It really depends on the strength of the bottom end i would assume.

seeing as the 3.5L sc setup increased from 155kw to 225kw, I would expect around that percentage increase from the 3.8L donk... probably 175kw to 250kw with no extra mods.

and a whole bunch more torque.

mmm, supercharged 380s...

I can't wait to see what they put to the treads!

cheers,
.wook

think of the value for money as well! $15k for a low mileage 380, add blower = $20k for a 250kw family car.... naiiiice!

Great that there is a supercharger option now for these cars. However I would be worried about getting this power to the ground in a fwd. If some members who have gone the NA route in a 380 are having slippery take offs, it could be a whole lot worse with a blower given the torque.

Great that there is a supercharger option now for these cars. However I would be worried about getting this power to the ground in a fwd. If some members who have gone the NA route in a 380 are having slippery take offs, it could be a whole lot worse with a blower given the torque.

I doubt it will be any worse then a worked S/c'ed 3rd gen, mines not too bad, you just dont nail it full throttle from a standing start, just let it roll a bit then hit it, or it will just spin, same deal around corners, if you dont have TCL, or a LSD then the unloaded tyre will fry itself.

again, I found a thread on 3si where a guy ripped apart a 6g75, rods looked like spaghetti stands...
if i were charging one of these motors i'd upgrade the rods in them..

seeing as the 3.5L sc setup increased from 155kw to 225kw, I would expect around that percentage increase from the 3.8L donk... probably 175kw to 250kw with no extra mods.

and a whole bunch more torque.

mmm, supercharged 380s...

I can't wait to see what they put to the treads!

cheers,
.wook
you mean, made a 155kw car (at the engine) put down 150-170kw (to the wheels)
I hope this kit is better

Given that the 6G75 is an evolution of the 6G74, what are the chances of this kit fitting a 3.5L motor?

']you mean, made a 155kw car (at the engine) put down 150-170kw (to the wheels)
I hope this kit is better

I mean, made a 100-110kw atw car into a 150-170kw atw car. you can smirk at drivetrain losses if you want, but a 50% increase in power is nothing to be sneezed at.

given the same sort of increases on the 380, you'd be looking at 180-200kw atw.

anyway, someone hurry up and bolt one of these on!!! I wanna see some numbers!

cheers,
.wook

6 grand....god i'm tempted but why can't they make the current chip in my case a unichip q talk to the s/c ecu?

I wonder how many extra KW we could wrabgle out by getting the engine s/c, i'd hazard a guess at maybe 30kw....mmm a 250kw 380...ph34r teh power!!!!
I asked about the Unichip Q & he said I doubt it. CNJ also said you could only do it with a 7th injector.

Power wise the TMR bangs on about 30% more power from standard so with extractors & a decent exhaust & my CAI (when I get it on) adding 45 or so kw's over the TMR setup (without supercharger) that would be indicating percentage wise 280 - 290 kw at the motor??

Add some form of intercooling maybe water/methanol & it would probably crack the 300KW :shock: :cool: :badgrin:

Add some form of intercooling maybe water/methanol & it would probably crack the 300KW :shock: :cool: :badgrin:

Sounds good, but i think IC'ing that thing would prove even more difficult then the current sprintex units running about. But water/meth kits FTW

So what flow capacity are the stock injectors on the 6G75 then? Obviously more than enough if they are able to fuel the blower to what the motor can take.

If anyone knows the cc rating ............. post it up :)

i remember reading somewhere they're 305cc

Man i just got so far ahead of myself..... Im thinking 6k thats fantastic when i still havent got permission from the chief finacial officer for exhaust and lowering springs..... I am dead set kidding myself!!

Keen to see some numbers some brave soul doit!

Amen brother

I have a bit more research to do but I think I will be the one to do it. I'm still trying to find an LSD to go with it but.

So what flow capacity are the stock injectors on the 6G75 then? Obviously more than enough if they are able to fuel the blower to what the motor can take.

If anyone knows the cc rating ............. post it up :)
Obviously they are big enough to run the stock 6.5PSI 230kw setup. I'm leaning towards going for this option unless you can work out how to get your ecu to talk to the 380 ecu like TMR have. Mine will obviously be punching out more power than a stock TMR at 6.5PSI boost so will be a good experiment for these injectors.

I have a bit more research to do but I think I will be the one to do it. I'm still trying to find an LSD to go with it but.not worth your while getting a manual box installed and getting the TMR LSD they have on offer?

I have a bit more research to do but I think I will be the one to do it. I'm still trying to find an LSD to go with it but.


I'm going to get it done, i just know that i'll crack eventually but first i need to save the money for it....looks like i'm not doing anything fun for the next 6 months or so :D......of course the other option is that i get a loan to do it...depends on a few things i need to get looked at on my current setup.

not worth your while getting a manual box installed and getting the TMR LSD they have on offer?
With the 380 ecu being so hard to get around I would hate to think if that could even be done, besides a 380 manual transaxle would be around $5k. I also love the 380 auto box much better than on all of the Magnas I had.

I have the auto diff housing part number & have searched the part number on the US Mitsubishi sites & it came up as a valid part. I have sent an email to them & hopefully they will tell me what vehicle it comes in over there which hopefully will accept the Quaife LSD. :cool:

Foozr

Go with whatever is offered now, at least we can learn how they fool the stock ECU from that, once that is known we 380 owners/parts suppliers should be able to figure out other ways with some adjustability built in for increased engine performance

I haven't had much time this week so far to follow up with TMR but will get there. Still have a few queries to sort out before I bite the bullet. Actually Bullet here in Brisbane are one of the fitting agents they mentioned but weren't sure if they had a dyno to retune mine. I know someone here has used Bullet, anyone got anything good to say about them?

Dead end with my diff part number so far too but have just downloaded MMC parts lookup program & once installed hopefully after dreadging through various vehicles I may find the US one that runs the same transaxle as me & hopefully find a Quaife unit to slide into it. :cool:

Spoke to TMR today & found out the TMR380 runs a 7th injector so not quite as good as we all expected :gtfo: Getting more info on this ecu that talks to the factory unit & how the tuning module works before I go any further. :confused:

Spoke to TMR today & found out the TMR380 runs a 7th injector so not quite as good as we all expected :gtfo:

without an intercooler it's a pretty important feature. For sealing of the screws and cooling.

Sounds like you should go full aftermarket... :P You're starting to do some serious modding.

Just saw this thread. Great googly moogly.

And to think I just finished finally doing the US Galant airbox and K&N filter.... :)

So are TMRAustralia offering just the supercharger or the other TMR380 parts as well ?
That double exhaust looks sweet, as do the 19 inch wheels and lower suspension !

I just never get it why they do this piecemeal approach to tuning when the whole integrity of the motor is at stake. Tragic really :nuts:

I just never get it why they do this piecemeal approach to tuning when the whole integrity of the motor is at stake. Tragic really :nuts:
Yeah I know hence my enquiry about your ecu. After talking to them it seems they don't know much about the setup & are talking to someone else to get the information I asked for. With the 7th injector it might be a bastardised version of the supercharger kits by RIPP in the US for the Eclipse/Galant/380 running a Sprintex charger.:confused:

Just saw this thread. Great googly moogly.
So are TMRAustralia offering just the supercharger or the other TMR380 parts as well ?
That double exhaust looks sweet, as do the 19 inch wheels and lower suspension !
Supposedly they are going to do all but I didn't ask. Probably the only thing I may be interested in are those huge stoppers! :cool:

Yeah I know hence my enquiry about your ecu. After talking to them it seems they don't know much about the setup & are talking to someone else to get the information I asked for. With the 7th injector it might be a bastardised version of the supercharger kits by RIPP in the US for the Eclipse/Galant/380 running a Sprintex charger.:confused:


You'll probably find it's the magna sprintex kit, as the 3.5 and 3.8 blocks are the same in physical dimentions

Supposedly they are going to do all but I didn't ask. Probably the only thing I may be interested in are those huge stoppers! :cool:

The stoppers are made by Alcon with just a lick of powder coating on them, looking at around 2900 trade price for the fronts, aka 6 Piston calipers 390mm rotors, lines, brackets.

Ouch mega bucks :shock:

Ouch mega bucks :shock:

Then you dont want to know the RRP of the kits then. Btw thats the middle size of the 4 kits they do.

Oh well when my pads wear out might just do the standard size better quality rotor & pad upgrade, after all the 380 does brake well just has crap rotors & pads.

ive been talking to alan lately and the brakes are 5k for fronts alone as these are the same as what they fit to the evos. if anyones interested in the suspension pm me.

Wow huge markup!!

Still looking at the supercharger but with the latest developments I may go aftermarket if Tradewind can get his ecu going with the 380 ..... undecided :confused:

ive been talking to alan lately and the brakes are 5k for fronts alone as these are the same as what they fit to the evos. if anyones interested in the suspension pm me.
Which EVO do they fit those to? Previous EVO models (6-9) all have 4 pot 330mm fronts and 2 pot 300mm rears. The EVO X has 4 pot 350mm fronts and 2 pot, I think 320mm rears.

yeah 900 markup on the brakes, not too bad considering the only diff is the paint. :nuts:

Suspension is apparently custom made Koni's with internal adjustment with some spring of unknown origin. Ive heard from a few sources they were made by Red Ranger (same guys who do whiteline, Nolathane, Superpro etc)

there after market upgrades for the rs rallicars. as for the suspension there koni fully adjustable coilovers.

Disciple The alcons do direct bolt on's for evo 6-9 ranging from 355 to a tidy 420mm with 4 or 6 pot calipers depending on what you like with your dinnerplates.


Apparently Wilwood do 6piston direct bolt on apps for evo's as well.

Disciple The alcons do direct bolt on's for evo 6-9 ranging from 355 to a tidy 420mm with 4 or 6 pot calipers depending on what you like with your dinnerplates.


Apparently Wilwood do 6piston direct bolt on apps for evo's as well.
Oh aftermarket, yeah I know they do aftermarket. :doubt: When I saw "these are the same as they fit to the EVOs" I was thinking, hmmm, what EVO gets those brakes? lol

I'd love a 6 pot Ralliart brake upgrade package... :drool:

Wow huge markup!!

Still looking at the supercharger but with the latest developments I may go aftermarket if Tradewind can get his ecu going with the 380 ..... undecided :confused:
far from knocking tradewinds's kits as i think they will be awesome, i'd personally go the TMR sprintex kit as at 6G its a good buy, its neat and tidy (well stock looking really) plus with your mods and an 8-9psi pulley upgrade the car would be insane!

Yeah I'm just a bit sus on the 7th injector. Even if I get more info & can run Tradewinds ECU with larger injectors & the Sprintex, it would look factory but be more reliable & go harder. :cool:

Yeah I'm just a bit sus on the 7th injector. Even if I get more info & can run Tradewinds ECU with larger injectors & the Sprintex, it would look factory but be more reliable & go harder. :cool:
if u run bigger injectors like i do, the 7th injector is just there to add some sort of cooling and to seal the charge. That said i believe the 380 injectors are bigger than the TJ units so they should be fine to handle a little more boost. I'm still running my 7th injector until i get my water/meth kit done, then that will seal the charge plus add a truckload of cooling. W/MI is something else you can add to your s/c with ease and low $$$

Ok I didn't realise it was for cooling & I was planning to run w/m injection anyway. That said I will still wait for the info on the TMR ecu as Alan didn't know anything about it or how the tuning module works :nuts:

You sure it's a TMR ECU and not just an SMT6/7 piggy that's controlling the injector and timing?

Have no idea, TMR don't seem to know much about it either which indicates maybe it is a Sprintex design. I thought if Sprintex had put the kit together it might have been mentioned on their website??

I think a lack of tuning upgrades from Mitsubishi have not done them any favours. The way in which they have choked the 380 and restrained it to 175KW is just plain stupid:nuts: They could easily have made the VRX model 200KW But instead Mitsubishi decided to make it slower {BECAUSE ITS HEAVIER} then there base ES model. In a perfect world the american MIVEC 3.8 would have been fitted :) Mitsubishi australia never did understand that some of us do like making our cars faster, Something that HOLDEN and FORD realised many years ago. If you want make your FALCODOOR faster the support and options available from most dealers make my mouth water, Why didnt mitsubishi go down this path, not even a factory computer chip upgrade:nuts: Its obvious mitsubishi decided there market was strictly bald 60yr old men with penile disfunction. I hope this discription doesnt fit any of our forum:bowrofl: I love my 380 but a factory supercharged or turbo model with 4wheel drive would have atracted a lot of traditional Ford and Holden buyers that want real muscle, This market is huge in Australia and NZ. I know mitsubishi didnt have the budget for such a remarkabe BEAST, But my point is even if they did I doubt they would have gone down this track, I know I could just buy an EVO but a family car it is not. Im sure you have all heard this before but I had to get this off my chest.:rant:

I think a lack of tuning upgrades from Mitsubishi have not done them any favours. The way in which they have choked the 380 and restrained it to 175KW is just plain stupid:nuts: They could easily have made the VRX model 200KW But instead Mitsubishi decided to make it slower {BECAUSE ITS HEAVIER} then there base ES model. In a perfect world the american MIVEC 3.8 would have been fitted :) Mitsubishi australia never did understand that some of us do like making our cars faster, Something that HOLDEN and FORD realised many years ago. If you want make your FALCODOOR faster the support and options available from most dealers make my mouth water, Why didnt mitsubishi go down this path, not even a factory computer chip upgrade:nuts: Its obvious mitsubishi decided there market was strictly bald 60yr old men with penile disfunction.

Just check down there first, make sure everything is OK, yep :thumbsup:

OK,
Agree with your rant. But I think the reasons aren't quite what you state. I think MMAL would have done a Ralliart version or a better VRX/GT but just didn't have the funds and, crucially, didn't have the authority from MMC.

I only modded mine because I wanted the go to match the handling and the VRX badging. Everyone on here is probably the same.

All they had to do was the same sports exhaust as they had for the Sports/GTV etc and the sports models of the 380s would have been distinctively quicker and more attractive. The 380 has a good top end when it's allowed to rev. That would've got more buyer interest, better press and might've persuaded MMC to support a Ralliart version.

I think they would have too, But you and I both know that it wouldnt be turbo like the XR6 ford or even supercharged like some of the Holdens were. The sad fact is MMC have had plenty of time to give us a real performance family sedan but have choosen not to. MMC have clearly lead the way in performance handling, but sadly not HP. I may be wrong but the most powerfull diamante was A ralliart producing 190kw or so, I dont think that sort of power really did the ralliart justice, Not to mention the fact it is front wheel drive something that is not to popular in Australia. All Im saying is I think MMC got the market wrong and were more than capable of giving us what we want{MORE POWER} but didnt.:cry:

It does seem like they were setup to fail in the last couple of years.
As people are finding out, its very cheap to signficantly up the power in your 380.
Its like they were purposely given too little funds to do anything so then head office could claim their sales weren't good enough, and justify shutting the factory down.

Guarantee that had already been decided at a high level before the 380 series 3 was launched. That 'update' was entirely and completely pointless.

Guys, the large car market as a whole is dead. Falcon sales are terrible, Aurion sales are terrible, Commodore survives because they give massive fleet and customer discounts. (Go to buy a VE, $8k off straight away!) The market has changed - a lot. Mitsubishi globally is in the best position it's been in for years. Lancer, Outlander, Triton, Pajero are all solid performers and sell very well. EVO X just released and Ralliart Lancer about to be released, along with Lancer Sportback and Ralliart Sportback. Ralliart Triton coming next year - rumours of Ralliart Outlander and Ralliart Pajero too.

Yes your right in todays market, But how about the Diamante range? I think petrol was fairly affordable over the past decade and the large car market flourished over this period.
Will the large car market resurge, now petrol is on the decline? MMC went stale with the Diamante/Magna range and gave the consumer very little option with their range, Once again I say MORE POWER NEEEEEEEDED

Yes your right in todays market, But how about the Diamante range? I think petrol was fairly affordable over the past decade and the large car market flourished over this period.
Will the large car market resurge, now petrol is on the decline? MMC went stale with the Diamante/Magna range and gave the consumer very little option with their range, Once again I say MORE POWER NEEEEEEEDED

where is petrol on the decline?

i paid $1.67 this morning as always

Yep oil is $70 per barrell as compared to about $140 at its peak & fuel ain't half the price ..... no where near it!

Yep oil is $70 per barrell as compared to about $140 at its peak & fuel ain't half the price ..... no where near it!
They said on the news last night that although oil about half the price it was earlier (few months ago, whenever), our dollar has also dropped. The guy said that had our dollar remained up in the 90s, we'd now be paying about $1.00 a litre for petrol. (That's if you believe everthing they say...)

They said on the news last night that although oil about half the price it was earlier (few months ago, whenever), our dollar has also dropped. The guy said that had our dollar remained up in the 90s, we'd now be paying about $1.00 a litre for petrol. (That's if you believe everthing they say...)

It's not just affected by the exchange rate, it is also pumped up by the increased cost of refining in these conditions.

The 2004 model AWD VRX Diamante, Was the exact car that should have had a factory supercharger producing at least 205KW. That car would have sold like hotcake. Finally I feel Like Ive finished my RANT and all my demons have been Exercised, Its great to Know that when my wife wont listen to me, At least my AMC mates will:nuts:

So back on topic ....... what are you gonna tell your wife the noise is coming from under the bonnet when you secretly bolt up the TMR supercharger kit? :confused: :badgrin:

So back on topic ....... what are you gonna tell your wife the noise is coming from under the bonnet when you secretly bolt up the TMR supercharger kit? :confused: :badgrin:
It'll just be a different whine. :bowrofl:

But a bearable one ......... you won't have to grab a drink everytime it starts up to soothe the pain :bowrofl:

a little birdy told me something interesting on Friday. As u can no longer get the kit for the TH-TL cars then only sprintex kit off the shelf is for the 380. Now the 380 will bolt onto a 6G74 except for the throttle as the 380 has a little bend in it. Sprintex are (once again what i've been told) finalising draws for machining the kit to suit the older engine. Lastly i was told a bigger pulley has been put on the kit as the new compressor flows better than the older one.

So shortly there could be availability for this charger to go on the older 3rd gen cars

So shortly there could be availability for this charger to go on the older 3rd gen cars

I for one really hope this happens...

Lastly i was told a bigger pulley has been put on the kit as the new compressor flows better than the older one.
You mean smaller pulley for bigger power right? Would be good if the Sprintex blowers made a come back.

You mean smaller pulley for bigger power right? Would be good if the Sprintex blowers made a come back.

because the new design flows better, you require the supercharger to spin less to produce the same air flow... so bigger pulley... this would probably in turn produces less heat as well... big +!

I for one really hope this happens...
also a good price at $6,000. its a very competitive option to tradewinds s/c kit

a little birdy told me something interesting on Friday. As u can no longer get the kit for the TH-TL cars then only sprintex kit off the shelf is for the 380. Now the 380 will bolt onto a 6G74 except for the throttle as the 380 has a little bend in it. Sprintex are (once again what i've been told) finalising draws for machining the kit to suit the older engine. Lastly i was told a bigger pulley has been put on the kit as the new compressor flows better than the older one.

So shortly there could be availability for this charger to go on the older 3rd gen cars



Someone wouldn't be thinking of buying one would they lol

Someone wouldn't be thinking of buying one would they lol
i've already got one brad, dont need another one.

I've gotta call sprintex actually, see how many more revs i can put through the compressor so i can run more boost when i get tuned next

i've already got one brad, dont need another one.

I've gotta call sprintex actually, see how many more revs i can put through the compressor so i can run more boost when i get tuned next

I meant one of the new ones lol

I might PM you with a few question

because the new design flows better, you require the supercharger to spin less to produce the same air flow... so bigger pulley... this would probably in turn produces less heat as well... big +!
Heat isn't really a problem until you get 40 degree days as that's when you can feel the heatsoak doing its thing. But there are ways around it :)

a little birdy told me something interesting on Friday. As u can no longer get the kit for the TH-TL cars then only sprintex kit off the shelf is for the 380. Now the 380 will bolt onto a 6G74 except for the throttle as the 380 has a little bend in it. Sprintex are (once again what i've been told) finalising draws for machining the kit to suit the older engine. Lastly i was told a bigger pulley has been put on the kit as the new compressor flows better than the older one


Interesting, must be bigger market than I thought for a company like that to be bothered with it. Also interesting since if they thought it was not worthwhile before then why is it now? Watch this space ......... :)

Are they selling complete fuelling and ECU solutions within that price or just 7th injector stuff? I wonder how the AUD/USD other currency thing will affect them ..... as the low dollar is a very recent development, its currently killing performance companies left right and center over the last month

well i went to melbourne and payed a visit to tmr. i almost creamed myself. they had 11 evos in there. also was tmr380 number 1(not the concept). found out that the twin exhuast just uses 2 stock mufflers. the exhaust size is the same as well. so the 60kw is just from the supercharger. got myself some goodies while i was there but will share that later.

Wish I could have a look over of a real TMR380, still waiting for Alan to send the ECU info I requested. Would make it a hell of a lot easier if I could just have a look at one!!

well i went to melbourne and payed a visit to tmr. i almost creamed myself. they had 11 evos in there. also was tmr380 number 1(not the concept). found out that the twin exhuast just uses 2 stock mufflers. the exhaust size is the same as well. so the 60kw is just from the supercharger. got myself some goodies while i was there but will share that later.do they make bits and pieces for 3rd gens?

also a good price at $6,000. its a very competitive option to tradewinds s/c kit

Down from the original ~$8,000.00 it's certainly getting more and more attractive as an option, agreed.

Time for some phone calls i think...

Maybe the presence of Raptor has brought the price down for you all (it often does), if I pulled out it should go back up $2000 :D

Maybe the presence of Raptor has brought the price down for you all (it often does), if I pulled out it should go back up $2000 :D

Being in WA like myself the Sprintex solution is attractive for other reasons also... it's hard to put a value on that!

That said i'm interested in learning more about your system, I've seen the website but is there a thread you can point me to with more detailed information?

Being in WA like myself the Sprintex solution is attractive for other reasons also... it's hard to put a value on that!

That said i'm interested in learning more about your system, I've seen the website but is there a thread you can point me to with more detailed information?


http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=49

do they make bits and pieces for 3rd gens?


not really most of the work they do is biulding up evo rally cars.

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=49

Thanks for the link, now I've seen it again i recall reading the start of that thread previously.

My memory is clearly shot!

the main reason i see the 380 charger cheaper than the 3rd gen charger is machining costs. The 380 charger is on a cast intake manifold, where the 3rd gen one is on a massive CNC machine billet of alloy. I can see the $1000 difference in price with the amount of work that must have bene involve in the development and the construction of the unit

the main reason i see the 380 charger cheaper than the 3rd gen charger is machining costs. The 380 charger is on a cast intake manifold, where the 3rd gen one is on a massive CNC machine billet of alloy. I can see the $1000 difference in price with the amount of work that must have bene involve in the development and the construction of the unit

Got any more inside information about these being made available again for 3rd gens?

I've not had time to make the necessary phone calls myself as yet.

Can anyone make a guestimate on how much this would increase petrol useage ?


And how about insurance? When I enquired with my insurance about the air filter box, the reply was engine mods and exhaust are fine, as are suspension mods. The only thing that will increase insurance is if you turbo charge it.....at the time I thought, whatever, like I'm going to be doing that.... :D

Can anyone make a guestimate on how much this would increase petrol useage ?


And how about insurance? When I enquired with my insurance about the air filter box, the reply was engine mods and exhaust are fine, as are suspension mods. The only thing that will increase insurance is if you turbo charge it.....at the time I thought, whatever, like I'm going to be doing that.... :D

who are you with?

in terms of insurance when i called justcar to see how much extra if i supercharged mine i was told $27 or something

I'm with RACV for car insurance.

$27 extra from Just Car insurance is pretty impressive !

yer i was suprised,racv wont touch me if i supercharge

when it comes to fuels economy after supercharging i didnt notice a difference. still getting around 500km per tank. but as always this depends how ya drive it. and i drive it HARD

Having a little test fit time with a 380 this Friday. Will report what problems and what possibilities we find :D

when it comes to fuels economy after supercharging i didnt notice a difference. still getting around 500km per tank. but as always this depends how ya drive it. and i drive it HARD

I could definitely live with that :D

Having a little test fit time with a 380 this Friday. Will report what problems and what possibilities we find :D
Cool! Will be interesting to see your findings, I still haven't heard back from TMR with ansers to my questions about the ecu. Maybe my questions were too hard? :bowrofl:

The link is here

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62268

Cheers

Have made several enquiries re supercharging the 380. Good news for me & BloodAsp is that we can use our existing Unichip Q ECUs either in a 7th injector setup or running 6 slightly larger injectors. This will reduce the price of our conversions dramatically. I will make an enquiry with TMR to see what I can get their kit for, minus the ECU they supply.

Welcome back from your holiday, Fozle.

Do you think it's time to do a complete thread in Member's Machines?

It would be a good place to keep all the development in one place and showcase your car at the same time. Make all those Gen 3ers itchy...:badgrin:

Welcome back from your holiday, Fozle.

Do you think it's time to do a complete thread in Member's Machines?

It would be a good place to keep all the development in one place and showcase your car at the same time. Make all those Gen 3ers itchy...:badgrin:
Yep it maybe, things are starting to happen. Going to exhaust place today to get a firm quote on my new FI exhaust system & CAI will be on next week. Hoping to redyno once that is done to get a max NA figure before the next journey into FI happens.

I don't think QMD has picked up on my avatar comment yet. :badgrin:

....my new FI exhaust system ...

Mmmmm.

So what's that about? Forced induction system? Extractors are coming off?

Yep it maybe, things are starting to happen. Going to exhaust place today to get a firm quote on my new FI exhaust system & CAI will be on next week. Hoping to redyno once that is done to get a max NA figure before the next journey into FI happens.

I don't think QMD has picked up on my avatar comment yet. :badgrin:
When you movin'? And where?
It's pretty hard to spot if you lurk around the 380 threadslol

Mmmmm.

So what's that about? Forced induction system? Extractors are coming off?
No extractors stay but whole system coming off & new 3" hi-flow system with dualies going on.

So if anyone is interested my old dual system will be up for grabs real soon. :D

When you movin'? And where?
It's pretty hard to spot if you lurk around the 380 threadslol
I no speakeda english ........... what the? Who said I was moving?

Just got off the phone to TMR & they will be emailing me the date of delivery of my kit.

He also mentioned a 380 in WA running this kit with similar mods to me with 250KW :shock: ..... I'm assuming at the wheels?? :badgrin:

He also mentioned a 380 in WA running this kit with similar mods to me with 250KW :shock: ..... I'm assuming at the wheels?? :badgrin:


Eeeek!:shock:

I no speakeda english ........... what the? Who said I was moving?
Pheww false alarm, must have read to much into your avatar commentlol

Just got off the phone to TMR & they will be emailing me the date of delivery of my kit.

He also mentioned a 380 in WA running this kit with similar mods to me with 250KW :shock: ..... I'm assuming at the wheels?? :badgrin:


Already i'm so behind the 8 ball now :P 250kw.....wow....just wow, oh btw taking my car in tomorrow to get the tune etc looked at i'm hoping it's as simple as they forgot to hook a wire up or got it wrong somehow.....if i have to pay for more dtno time because my tuner was feeling lazy i wont be impressed let me tell you.
Will post up my results and hopefully i'll be 20kw atw richer after tomorrow :D

Pheww false alarm, must have read to much into your avatar commentlol
That was related to his catch me if you can in the Raptor section.

Noticed today while poking around that RPW have a Rotrex setup for Magna's & the 380 on their website, seems to be associated with Bullet for around $3800 (No ECU, no nothing except supercharger, mounting brackets & piping) :nuts:

Foozle

Is the CNJ workshop going to fit and tune your Sprintex?

Foozle

Is the CNJ workshop going to fit and tune your Sprintex?
Yep, I think they said they are back on the 14th then I still have to book some time to get it tuned etc. I'm half thinking I might fit it myself if it isn't too hard coz I will loose the sprintex warranty anyway if they fit it. The only people authorised to fit in QLD is Bullett performance & they don't have a dyno anyway, bit silly me thinks :nuts:

The only people authorised to fit in QLD is Bullett performance & they don't have a dyno anyway, bit silly me thinks :nuts:

Agree. Makes it more expensive farming it out to a dyno and more time.

Probably can't get a better place than CNJ anyway. they know your car backwards.

Yep spot on, look at the probs Blood has had with his Unichip tune. CNJ say they can get it to do anything I want including running 6 or 7 injectors with forced induction.

Unfortunately the TMR kit comes as a kit & I have to get the Sprintex ECU with it, although I won't use it. Don't know if it may be something I can sell or if anyone would want to buy??

Money just transfered to TMR for the supercharger kit, should have it in about 2 weeks. :badgrin:

I"m just waiting to hear from tim aka tradewind that the kit is ready to be posted and i'll be getting it sent to me, still need to find out about getting it installed and tuned but shouldn't be long.

Awesome, I thought you were still saving for it??

...... the race is on, the 1st to 300kw atm wins :D :badgrin: :cool:

Unfortunately the TMR kit comes as a kit & I have to get the Sprintex ECU with it, although I won't use it. Don't know if it may be something I can sell or if anyone would want to buy??
If the SMT6/7 that comes with the 380 S/C kit is unlocked you could put any custom tune on it. Why do you want to use another ECU out of interest?

I already have a Unichip Q on the car which can do anything I want. My tuner also knows them inside out so seems silly to pull it off to install the Sprintex. I'd say the one with the kit will be locked but if I paid the extra $540 odd dollars I would have got a unlocked tunable one. Why spend $540 when mine will do all & more.

I already have a Unichip Q on the car which can do anything I want. My tuner also knows them inside out so seems silly to pull it off to install the Sprintex. I'd say the one with the kit will be locked but if I paid the extra $540 odd dollars I would have got a unlocked tunable one. Why spend $540 when mine will do all & more.
Exactly, it would be stupid to spend extra money on an unlocked one. Reason i asked was because i didn't know you already had a piggy ECU. Can the Unichip monitor extra sensors (like the post blower temp sensor) and retard timing when the intake temps gets too hot?

Exactly, it would be stupid to spend extra money on an unlocked one. Reason i asked was because i didn't know you already had a piggy ECU. Can the Unichip monitor extra sensors (like the post blower temp sensor) and retard timing when the intake temps gets too hot?Yep Unichip can do all that, that is one of the questions I asked my tuner after reading all the comments on here. Seems like a must with the Sprintex.

Yep Unichip can do all that, that is one of the questions I asked my tuner after reading all the comments on here. Seems like a must with the Sprintex.
That's good as yes it's a must with an un-intercooled blower setup

That's good as yes it's a must with an un-intercooled blower setup
The initial setup won't be intercooled but when I rehash the kit & get it running on 6 injectors with more boost it will be running water/methanol injection as well.

Supercharger kit just left Melbourne on a courier :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

nice :D

Supercharger kit just left Melbourne on a courier :


So it should be here REALLY Quick :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

So it should be here REALLY Quick :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:
Well I hope it isn't 2nd hand when it gets here!! lol

just out of curiosity fooz is the piggy back that comes with the charger unlocked or locked?

just out of curiosity fooz is the piggy back that comes with the charger unlocked or locked?
I won't know for sure what I'm getting until Thursday but I assume it will be locked as I had to pay more to get the tunable one which maybe just means I get software? Maybe anyone else with knowledge on the SMT range can shed light? I'm assuming even if its locked you must be able to default & reprogram surely?

I won't know for sure what I'm getting until Thursday but I assume it will be locked as I had to pay more to get the tunable one which maybe just means I get software? Maybe anyone else with knowledge on the SMT range can shed light? I'm assuming even if its locked you must be able to default & reprogram surely?

if it's anything like the SMT6 on the 3.5 kits it'll be totally locked (i.e. can't even read the tune off it). there is a program to unlock it (as is evidenced by Tweakit being able to re-tune Chisholm's car), but good luck getting your mitts on it. the software to tune it is a free download from the Perfect Power website (as are the all the manuals to teach you how to tune it). but then you need the cable to talk to it.

of course, they may have changed the way they lock them down... but I doubt it.

cheers,
.wook

if it's anything like the SMT6 on the 3.5 kits it'll be totally locked (i.e. can't even read the tune off it). there is a program to unlock it (as is evidenced by Tweakit being able to re-tune Chisholm's car), but good luck getting your mitts on it. the software to tune it is a free download from the Perfect Power website (as are the all the manuals to teach you how to tune it). but then you need the cable to talk to it.

of course, they may have changed the way they lock them down... but I doubt it.

cheers,
.wook
Oh well might have a boat anchor on my hands then :nuts: Would have cost me another $540 for a tunable one so now I can put that towards bigger injectors etc cos regardless a stock 380 tune would not have been right for my car.

Supercharger kit arrived today, permission to drool granted ........ :cool:

Drooooooling comenced.........:redface:

lucky bastard. sorry im just jelous:shifty:. not much for $5500 as far as parts go hey.

Was $5039 delivered to Bris. It's pretty comprehensive, new spark plugs, new MAP sensor etc etc, full instruction manual with step by step guide to the whole setup.

sounds good

Fooz, during the install i would replace the original rocker cover gaskets and spark tube seals (at least for the rear bank as the front bank can be changed without taking the blower off). Over time the extra heat will make them leak oil so if you have the chance do them now.

Fooz, during the install i would replace the original rocker cover gaskets and spark tube seals (at least for the rear bank as the front bank can be changed without taking the blower off). Over time the extra heat will make them leak oil so if you have the chance do them now.
Ok cool thanks for the advice.

full instruction manual with step by step guide to the whole setup.

Awesome!

Let's get stuck into this thing; should be able to have it slung on in a few hours. You should look good in that cap, mate :P

U think? Plan is to read the manual tonight, talk to my tuner & also Sprintex re some tips from the 250KW 380 they did. Hopefully have something happening in the next few weeks. :cool: :badgrin:

Nah long weekend this week. You should be able to knock it over in three hours 4 max i reckon.... :)
Everyone is drooling dont step in the puddles.... lol...

Busy this weekend unfortunately, need to talk to my tuner since I wont be running the supplied ecu.

Busy this weekend unfortunately, need to talk to my tuner since I wont be running the supplied ecu.



Thats ok ill drive up and fit it for you..... just leave the keys on the the front right tyre:badgrin: :badgrin:

But dont expect to come back to a car.......ooops did i write that down:redface: lol

Thats ok ill drive up and fit it for you..... just leave the keys on the the front right tyre

But dont expect to come back to a car.......ooops did i write that down:redface: lol
Yeah righto .... as if :gtfo:

Will sus a few things this weekend then talk to my tuner Tuesday then hopefully not long after that it will go on :badgrin:

Yeah righto ....:


Fixed..... pm me ur address.....:bowrofl:

I think this should aptly summarize the reactions here thus far...
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh10/grubco/drooling_homer-712749gif.png
(Just imagine him uttering "Superchargerrrrrrrrr..."
PS Good luck with the install. Agreed it didn't look like much for five grand, but its obviously got the punch you're after - and that's all that really matters.

:bowrofl: Thanks for that, looks extremely straight forward, just have to work out the Unichip setup ..... well my tuner will anyway :) Theres gonna be some good KW figures coming up real soon :badgrin: Better start looking for new tyres now, done 39K on the current yokies & I think there maybe some smoke coming off the fronts sometime real soon :badgrin:

I'm awefully tempted to go the FI route... it seems the best power gain for a VERY good price (considering supercharger conversions were like $10G installed a few years ago). Wish someone down in Sydney had one I could take for a spin (with driver present of course) to get a feel for the difference in power (and sound).

I'm awefully tempted to go the FI route... it seems the best power gain for a VERY good price (considering supercharger conversions were like $10G installed a few years ago). Wish someone down in Sydney had one I could take for a spin (with driver present of course) to get a feel for the difference in power (and sound).
I believe Bloodasp in ACT maybe receiving something from Raptor real soon, I'm sure he'd take you for a ride :cool:

The Keyring is a nice touch I thought!

All seems the goods hey.

It carries 12 month warranty?

What pressure is it currently adjusted for?

The Keyring is a nice touch I thought!

All seems the goods hey.

It carries 12 month warranty?

What pressure is it currently adjusted for?
Hey don't forget the cap & stickers!!! lol

Yep 12 months warranty but only if installed by a TMR or Sprintex dealer & as long as you don't modify anything ..... oh well there goes warranty. I'm going to fit it myself as the manual is extremely thorough & comprehensive, idiot proof even. :cool:

The kits are 6.5PSI stock. Spoke to Sprintex yesterday & the fabled 380 they did is running about 230KW ATW with similar mods to mine at 6.5PSI. They have installed heavier valve springs to combat valve flutter at high revs. Apparantly they say it is caused by the hydralic lifters which will limit the power output. They said not worth running higher boost unless you can get solid lifters for the motor then 550HP wouldn't be out of the question. :shock:

I'll run it on stock boost setup with some cooling & if I get 230-250KW ATW I think I will be happy. After all that is over 300KW ATM. :badgrin:

I'll run it on stock boost setup with some cooling & if I get 230-250KW ATW I think I will be happy. After all that is over 300KW ATM. :badgrin:

That should seriously embarrass a lot of manual SC 3rd Gens.

I wonder if this will have the same outcome as other Sprintex'ed magnas, if they are only doing the warranty with the supplied ECU then it will have the failsafe on it, which is it will pull back timing to elimate any detonation that might/will occur at hot temps.

If you do use any old ecu then your running a terrible risk.

If you do use any old ecu then your running a terrible risk.
Already discussed this with my tuner, he was already aware of the Sprintex manifold temp sensor & mentioned pulling timing before I even mentioned it. I have the utmost faith in my tuner, he really knows his stuff. I will be running my Unichip Q on this setup.

Already discussed this with my tuner, he was already aware of the Sprintex manifold temp sensor & mentioned pulling timing before I even mentioned it. I have the utmost faith in my tuner, he really knows his stuff. I will be running my Unichip Q on this setup.

So with your unichip you will have this feature incorporated?

So with your unichip you will have this feature incorporated?
Yep sure will, like I said he was already aware of it. He will program an input to pull the timing.

The install has started, manifold removed after work today .......... :badgrin:

Wax your car man.......


It'll help our druel slide offlol

Ha ha there will be many more pics to come, I'm going to try to get a thread up in the Members Machines if I can actually find the time!! .... with some bigger hosted pics.:cool:

Very interesting

Keep me up to date, I also have the upgrade injectors for the 380 in stock as of today - see my 380 thread

soo jealous :<

Foozrcool hows this going?

I've come to a bit of a standstill. My bigger fuel injectors don't quite fit & I'm talking with Tim's suppliers to resolve this. When & if it is I will also be pulling my fuel pump & getting a Walbro for it.

The rest of the kit is installed except for the supercharger itself which can't go on until the injectors are sorted. I am also going to see if I can incorporate a bastardised version of my CAI system once the supercharger manifold/throttle body is in place.

I just ordered a water/methanol setup which should be here next week so hopefully in the next 2 to 3 weeks I might have it on the dyno along with some more pics.

Fooz

PM me with where its up to with supplier if you can please.

Cheers

I've come to a bit of a standstill.

Good time to start your own "Foozer's Forced 380" in the Members Machines Section, then!

:P nag, nag, nag....

Yeah yeah 380's at a standstill but unfortunately the rest of my life isn't! I need another holiday! :rant:

Your injectors can't be far away now can they, what is latest position on those?

Your injectors can't be far away now can they, what is latest position on those?
I'm expecting them to be in the mail today, I was told they would be sent Thursday which is when I Express posted the others back. Next weekend might see a blower mounted under my bonnet I'd say :badgrin:

OK, let me know when you get em hey

OK, let me know when you get em hey
Yep got em today, they have machined the tops down & put the double orings on like you said with a rubber stop below. Looks good, will see how they fit as soon as I get a spare moment.

Yep got em today, they have machined the tops down & put the double orings on like you said with a rubber stop below. Looks good, will see how they fit as soon as I get a spare moment.

GF got you doing all the chores :P

GF got you doing all the chores :P
lol end of the month work stuff tonight but yeah she did somehow rope me into shovelling gravel in the hot sun all weekend ..... what you do for ***** huh lol

We should see some movement on this project now :)

We should see some movement on this project now :)
Ummmm I think you might be referring to me maybe ....... yep my mate has agreed to come around after the job today & help me lift 24kg of machined aluminium under the bonnet of the 380 :badgrin:

Anyone wanna bet that there should be some pics coming forth soon?? :D

You'd be right.

Injectors & plugs are installed, unfortunately the job dragged on today so the charger didn't get bolted on but it will tomorrow :badgrin:

Finally getting somewhere, some eye candy for you guys :badgrin:

Mate, that is awesome!

What a neat install! Looks like a Mitsu proprietary item lol

What happens with the strut brace later?

Looking forward to next bunch of pics.

I only just dropped the supercharger in, I took the strut brace off temporarily to make it easier to slot in. Very well made, has all the original mounts for everything so if you wanted to put the engine cover back on it would all look like its meant to be there. :cool:

Is it likely you'll consider some bonnet vents near the trailing edge of the bonnet (near the windscreen base)? Or just a single meshed opening?

Looks like it could get nice and warm tucked in behind there.

Dunno I have thought about it but I would like something that looks the part if I was going to do it. The water/methanol injection will keep the compressor temps at bay so shouldn't be that bad. I have also left the insulating gasket in place on the manifold so will see how it goes.

Fooz

You thinking about grabbing a knock sensor for sure protection with engine or gonna wing it?

Fooz

You thinking about grabbing a knock sensor for sure protection with engine or gonna wing it?
The 380's already have a knock sensor, I heard it in operation last time my car was on the dyno when they took the timing up a little bit too far.

The 380's already have a knock sensor, I heard it in operation last time my car was on the dyno when they took the timing up a little bit too far.

Thats an earhole knock sensor that is, if the sensor was working you should hear no knock ever.

Don't use that type of sensor, if you have an actively working knock control system nothing is audible ever.

It was like a miss not knocking, I assume the ecu was dropping spark or something? Well my tuner told me thats what the sound was anyway.

I've hit another snag in my epic install, the 380 fuel pump is shorter than the Magna & the Walbro won't fit. I'm going to have to start emailing all over the world to find something that fits. :rant: Anyone have any ideas about a Walbro equivelent which is shorter? :doubt:

I've hit another snag in my epic install, the 380 fuel pump is shorter than the Magna & the Walbro won't fit. I'm going to have to start emailing all over the world to find something that fits. :rant: Anyone have any ideas about a Walbro equivelent which is shorter? :doubt:



FYI the fuel pump in the 380 is desighned to change the current flow through it to regulate the fuel pressure.

380 uses a non return fuel system which the fuel pump changes the fuel pressure as needed rather than a fuel pressure reg.

FYI the fuel pump in the 380 is desighned to change the current flow through it to regulate the fuel pressure.

380 uses a non return fuel system which the fuel pump changes the fuel pressure as needed rather than a fuel pressure reg.
Do you know what the maximum flow rate is?????

Do you know what the maximum flow rate is?????
Get real, that would be useful information. lol

Get real, that would be useful information. lol
Thanks Mr Doom & Gloom, he knew all that other stuff & who the hell would know that, so he might know or can find out lol

Just came across a device on the Net that will produce 50% more flow from any fuel pump by increasing the pump voltage on boost. Looks like I have another option now if I can't find a pump to fit. :cool:

http://www.kennebell.net/accessories/boostapump/boostapump.htm

Interesting site, this guy loves his Superchargers.

Does not affect pump life. Actually increases life of returnless pumps.
•Activated by boost switch (supercharged, turbocharged) or vacuum switch

That doesn't sound too bad, Rob.

At first I thought would be a great way to burn out your pump (as you're overtaking QMD801) but since it only runs on overboost at 90-100% load you're pretty safe.

What does CNJ think? They would dabble in this stuff all the time.

That doesn't sound too bad, Rob.

At first I thought would be a great way to burn out your pump (as you're overtaking QMD801) but since it only runs on overboost at 90-100% load you're pretty safe.

What does CNJ think? They would dabble in this stuff all the time.
Anyone could overtake QMD801 atm .... sorry mate lol

Dunno what CNJ think I only stumbled across it tonight on the internet. Getting frustrated as the I can't find out what the Denso stock pump flows & what any other Denso flows or any specs. It seems Denso are mainly oem so they don't seem to publish specifications for their pumps, you just order one for the car you have. They have mega squillions of pumps available so I'm sure theres one out there for me but it wont be easy getting the info i want.

Possible to get your 380 pump tested somewhere to see what the flow rate could be? Maybe a fuel injection place?

Possible to get your 380 pump tested somewhere to see what the flow rate could be? Maybe a fuel injection place?
Yeah thats an option, I've got the pump here on my desk so thought I might take some pics & measurements & draw up a mud map & shoot a few emails off overseas to Walbro & some of the bigger pump suppliers & see how I go. If after a week or so I'm not getting anywhere will see if I can get it flowed & enquire about one of these "Booster Pump" modules.

So close but yet so far, Supercharger belt is on & everythings connected. Still have to install the water/methanol injection but this pump is my main problem at the moment.:rant:

Fooz

Could you put up some pics of the pump ................ please

Fooz

Could you put up some pics of the pump ................ please
I'll put one up in the morning, on my way out for the night.

Do you think theres a chance you might be able to supply one?

Someones gotta have a go at it so might as well be me.

Get the pics up and also comparison pics with stock pump and will see what I can offer

Ok Tim see how you go with this ......

Mate, that is awesome!

What a neat install! Looks like a Mitsu proprietary item lol

What happens with the strut brace later?

Looking forward to next bunch of pics.
Well decided to put the strut brace back on this arvo, it sits a few mm above the supercharger but actually sits on the belt pulley.

Don't worry I fixed it but, spacers under the strut mount nuts for more clearance over the supercharger & a bloody big sledge hammer to dint the crap out of it where the supercharger pulley is :shock: lol

** Edit** Oh I forgot to add, I put the stock fuel pump back in & tried to start it, once the fuel came through it started & ran ok. CEL light on which could be anything with the changes I've made & the bigger injectors. Revs very willingly with the sweet but subtle whine from the supercharger. Still have to do the water/methanol injection install & rewire the fuel pump with bigger cable to increase voltage & volume from the pump. Once thats sorted it's off to the tuners.:badgrin:

Well decided to put the strut brace back on this arvo, it sits a few mm above the supercharger but actually sits on the belt pulley.

Don't worry I fixed it but, spacers under the strut mount nuts for more clearance over the supercharger & a bloody big sledge hammer to dint the crap out of it where the supercharger pulley is :shock: lol

** Edit** Oh I forgot to add, I put the stock fuel pump back in & tried to start it, once the fuel came through it started & ran ok. CEL light on which could be anything with the changes I've made & the bigger injectors. Revs very willingly with the sweet but subtle whine from the supercharger. Still have to do the water/methanol injection install & rewire the fuel pump with bigger cable to increase voltage & volume from the pump. Once thats sorted it's off to the tuners.:badgrin:

Does this mean it'll be ready for Byron bay? *crosses fingers*

Does this mean it'll be ready for Byron bay? *crosses fingers*
:doubt: I was hoping it would be but no unfortunately. :doh: I have to get a couple of safeguards ordered for my water/methanol kit & fit them & then organise some dyno time to get it tuned. I'd be guessing at least another couple of weeks away yet.

All looking good so far it seems

All looking good so far it seems
Yep I'm pretty happy that it actually started & ran ok, which means I can drive it to the tuners ...... carefully.

The fuel pump wiring is incy wincy so some decent size cable should definately increase the voltage at the pump & give me some more fuel. :cool:

Well done, Rob.

Taking a sledgehammer to it....:cry:

In the meantime, is there still a chance you'll (or Tim) be able to pick up a real hi flow pump?

Also, when you do drive it, let us know how loud the S/C whine is in the cabin.

Well done, Rob.

Taking a sledgehammer to it....:cry:

In the meantime, is there still a chance you'll (or Tim) be able to pick up a real hi flow pump?

Also, when you do drive it, let us know how loud the S/C whine is in the cabin.
Don't panic the dint is on the underside so you can't really notice it, might not be able to fit the belt guard though. Haven't really looked at that yet but it isn't important anyway, can always leave it off.

Everyone I emailed including Tim came back with pumps about 10mm too long. Can't get any spec info out of Denso so looks like the answer is no. If I'm having problems after my wiring modification I'll look into that voltage increasing on boost device I posted up earlier.

Yep will let you know about the whine, but free reving it wasn't very noticable at all, just subtle as I said.

Foozrcool, On 19-6-08 murph03 posted the photos below in post 88 within tread “20 x TMR Supercharged 380's to be built (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58113&page=9)”

The pic clearly shows an alternative brace suitable for supercharger equipped cars. You might be able to get this from TMR?

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/s311_bvm/Image036.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/s311_bvm/Image037.jpg

Foozrcool, On 19-6-08 murph03 posted the photos below in post 88 within tread “20 x TMR Supercharged 380's to be built (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58113&page=9)”

The pic clearly shows an alternative brace suitable for supercharger equipped cars. You might be able to get this from TMR?
Cool thanks for that, I will send Alan at TMR an email. I had a look at mine this arvo & there is no way I can run it with the belt guard on, even with my sledgehammer mods lol

Fooz

What date you going for the tuning?

Cant wait to see how this turns out! Should be a killer setup :thumbup: what power are u looking at once its all tuned and fully sorted?

Fooz

What date you going for the tuning?
Final failsafe parts for the water/methanol injection setup were ordered from the US 2 nights ago so should be here next week. Hopefully the following weekend it should be pretty well sorted, just have to book the dyno time then, so with Easter looming, it will be either just before or just after I'd say. :D

Cant wait to see how this turns out! Should be a killer setup :thumbup: what power are u looking at once its all tuned and fully sorted?
It's all guesstimations but I'm hoping for 250KW at the wheels :badgrin:

Sorry if its been said, how much Psi you running?

Sorry if its been said, how much Psi you running?
6.5 PSI

Started rewiring the fuel pump today, from the fusebox under the bonnet to the relay box drivers side footwell then to the fuel pump under the backseat I reckon it must be about 9 metres of wiring. The manual says it is 0.85mm & it looks so small, I have some left over 6mm from doing the fridge wiring in my 4wd so will run that. I would have to say with the size of the cabling & the length, there would be a couple of volts drop from the battery to the pump. If that's the case I should be looking at approx 20% more fuel flow which should cover me. :woot:

Water/methanol injection safeguard parts cleared customs last night so should be here real soon.

Getting close now .................. :badgrin:

Foozrcool, On 19-6-08 murph03 posted the photos below in post 88 within tread “20 x TMR Supercharged 380's to be built (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58113&page=9)”

The pic clearly shows an alternative brace suitable for supercharger equipped cars. You might be able to get this from TMR?

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/s311_bvm/Image036.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/s311_bvm/Image037.jpg
Finally got hold of someone at TMR today re the strut brace to fit over the Supercharger. They don't sell them as a seperate part as they were only made for the TMR380 but they are getting me a price & waiting time from whoever their supplier is.

I put the belt guard on today & there is no way my sledgehammer modified strut brace will fit over the belt guard as well. Unless these things are a rediculous price I will be ordering one.

Fooz,

This is obviously a completely different design to the standard brace.

The TMR brace and the strut tower top plates are are single casting, whereas the standard brace is simply a bar which bolts on to the existing top plates (which have the bolts already in them, just need the nuts).

So I reckon you could well be looking at a ridiculous price.

Something around $300 at a guess, compared to $20 to $25 for a standard brace.

KJ.

Fooz,

This is obviously a completely different design to the standard brace.

The TMR brace and the strut tower top plates are are single casting, whereas the standard brace is simply a bar which bolts on to the existing top plates (which have the bolts already in them, just need the nuts).

So I reckon you could well be looking at a ridiculous price.

Something around $300 at a guess, compared to $20 to $25 for a standard brace.

KJ.
I'm thinking maybe $200 but will see what they come back with. The only other option is to space the stock (sledgehammer modified) bar up about 5 to 10mm & take the belt guard off.

Foozrcool, it appears that TMR have two different braces for the 380 supercharged cars.

I think you need to ask TMR about the fabricated bar in these pictures it appears to bolt onto the existing strut tower plates.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/s311_bvm/garage.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb7/s311_bvm/garage2.jpg

Couldnt you just get the cover welded to the brace and then powdercoated?

It's not like they are spring steel or anything, or am i missing something?

Foozrcool, it appears that TMR have two different braces for the 380 supercharged cars.

I think you need to ask TMR about the fabricated bar in these pictures it appears to bolt onto the existing strut tower plates.
I'm thinking maybe that is the one I might be getting the price on. Those original shots look like it might be off the prototype coz the supercharger is black.

Where did you get those pics? Looks like an actual TMR380 or a red 380 with the kit I have.

Couldnt you just get the cover welded to the brace and then powdercoated?

It's not like they are spring steel or anything, or am i missing something?
Not sure what you mean Pred8r, if you mean weld the stock one up I think it will be too high to shut the bonnet. Notice the other two pictured are both slimline models.

Cars booked in for a tune on Thursday, lets see what we can out of her :badgrin:

Cars booked in for a tune on Thursday, lets see what we can out of her :badgrin:


You will be most happy if you make a nice gain and it stays together, if you get a big gain and it's dead a week later wouldn't be so hot

You will be most happy if you make a nice gain and it stays together, if you get a big gain and it's dead a week later wouldn't be so hot
Should be ok, stock 6.5 PSI boost so the cylinder pressure won't be too high. I have also got water/methanol for charge cooling & a number of failsafes so as long as my tuner does his job properly I shouldn't have a problem & I have the utmost faith in him :happy:

I have also got water/methanol for charge cooling & a number of failsafes so as long as my tuner does his job properly I shouldn't have a problem & I have the utmost faith in him :happy:
Best thing to add to a Sprintex setup. What parameter will it be running off?

Best thing to add to a Sprintex setup. What parameter will it be running off?
I am running a programmable controller with a 1-5 volt output running the variable controller. Input wise I have a water level switch, line pressure & manifold temp as the failsafe & I am leaving the trigger input connections up to my tuner. He will either run an output from the Unichip or a combination of this & RPM, boost pressure & TPS to control the water methanol injection. I have done the basic wiring & run spare cables. I will give him the software & he will do the final connections & programming.

I am running a programmable controller with a 1-5 volt output running the variable controller. Input wise I have a water level switch, line pressure & manifold temp as the failsafe & I am leaving the trigger input connections up to my tuner. He will either run an output from the Unichip or a combination of this & RPM, boost pressure & TPS to control the water methanol injection. I have done the basic wiring & run spare cables. I will give him the software & he will do the final connections & programming.
Sounds good Fooz. If i still had the blower a water/meth kit would have been next for me. Good luck with the tune.

Sounds good Fooz. If i still had the blower a water/meth kit would have been next for me. Good luck with the tune.
Yep I think it will solve all the broken motor syndromes from the Sprintex. My tuner says it allows you to put about another 10 degrees timing into the motor & have read about 10% more power is about the norm.

......... :hmm: Would have been nice to have the 380 tune done, was in the pajero today following a TRD Aurion leap frogging through traffic & gunning it from the lights. Could have caused him all sorts of embarrassment :badgrin:

......... :hmm: Would have been nice to have the 380 tune done, was in the pajero today following a TRD Aurion leap frogging through traffic & gunning it from the lights. Could have caused him all sorts of embarrassment :badgrin:
Patience Grasshopper!

Rang to see how the car was going today & the bloody P0106 MAP CEL code has reared it's ugly head again & the idle & revs are real erratic. This is the same problem I experienced last winter & earlier this year leading to Mitsubishi replacing the MAP sensor in an attempt to fix it. CNJ are trying to solve it & if they can't it will have to go back to Mitsubishi before they can finish the tune.

On a good note they have managed to trim the injectors back to give me a flat 11.8 AFR right through the range & the supercharger with no water/methanol injection is only puting out 3.5-4 PSI boost (no fuel or water to seal the rotors). Still got some sorting before the water/methanol is introduced & have only seen about 175-180 KW at the wheels (stock TMR380 output) since they are having problems tuning with the MAP code making the throttle body operate with a mind of its own.