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MAGNA
25-03-2004, 09:58 AM
Hello,

Does anyone here have a Davies Craig EWP running on their car. Looks like cheap horsepower.

I'm thinking about it depending on how much the units are.

Aaron

WhiteDevil
25-03-2004, 10:40 AM
wow... good stuff...

does anyone have one? or know how much it costs? looks cool.

I have a Turbo water pump ;)

ReallyArt
25-03-2004, 12:02 PM
Sounds interesting. Makes sense too. Works by the same principal as a thermo fan does ie removes the mechanical resistance the pulleys and pump generate.

The only thing I didn't like is that the thermostat has to be removed and they state that because of this the car will take longer to warm up. I live in Canberra so that's an issue.

They claim 8 -10% power increase at the wheels.

Prices etc are on the web site...

http://www.daviescraig.com.au/newproduct.html


...but you also need a controller.


The recomended retail for the pump (P/N 8005) is $280.28 and the smart controller (P/N 8010) is $271.70.
Product will be available from
Repco, Autobarn, Autopro, Auto One, Conventrys, Marlows & Global from August 1st.

MAGNA
25-03-2004, 12:06 PM
..and the fact that you have to gut you're existing water pump to get this thing working.

10% is quite a lot of power. 100 kw goes to 110 kw. You only get 2-3 kw from a pod that costs like $200 for the K&N kit so it should be a good power to $ upgrade.

WhiteDevil
25-03-2004, 01:26 PM
I say, someone try it please! !! !! While you're at it, dyno before and after.

dingo
25-03-2004, 02:09 PM
does anybody know how much power is lost to the original water pump? they claim up to 15kW but thats quite a bit of power... i know the average A/C unit steals around 12Hp (9kW).... just a thought..

looks like good gear to me :)

ReallyArt
25-03-2004, 02:42 PM
So, do any of the brainiac engineers on this forum have any thoughts on this?

If their claims are right (8-10% power gain), then if I chip my car and put in one of these I'll have 210- 214kw in my car all for around $1,800

Now that would make me very happy :D :D :D

EuroAccord13
25-03-2004, 03:24 PM
I say, someone try it please! !! !! While you're at it, dyno before and after.

I Vote You Dude! :D :D :D :D :D

WhiteDevil
25-03-2004, 04:05 PM
haha... how do you know i haven't already... :badgrin:

besides, i'm more interested in trying the electric turbo before water pump.

Altera98
25-03-2004, 05:02 PM
seems like another gimmick. water pump doesnt draw as much power as aircon compressor or engine fan. an engine fan needs to push a lot of air, aircon compressor is very hard to turn, wheras water pump quite easy.
I would be very dubious- want to see b4 and after dyno proof before buying it, not before and after fitting it. if u really want to test it, drive a car with the belt to waterpump disconnected - eg 2.6 magna has a little belt specially for the water pump.
i bet if you do that u can not tell the difference in power like you can with aircon on or off, and of course stop the test before engine overheats!

Madmagna
25-03-2004, 07:37 PM
guys, this can not be done on the Magna v6 as you will have no where to run your cam belt so it will have to stay connected.
These items are mainly for competition cars to stop cavitation at high revs.
They have been around for years, I used to run one on my rally car

Redav
26-03-2004, 05:56 AM
...I used to run one on my rally car

Hey, at what level did you race?

Phonic
26-03-2004, 08:19 AM
I have raced with my N/A 2.6 Galant with twin webers at 12 secs down the quarter mile for quite a few years.

I am now running my Magna down the strip in 12's and soon 11's and then end of the year I will have my galant back as well which is being built now to run 10's

Redav was asking MagnaMan about ralli not you, show off :D

heathyoung
26-03-2004, 09:26 AM
Autospeed tested these a few years back - they gave them such a scathing review they could not publish it (legal action was threatened)

Cheers
Heath Young

Madmagna
29-03-2004, 07:02 PM
just simple old PRC at a state level. Did not do that many events due mainly to cost. I also sponsored a couple of cars from time to time.
Mainly RX2 and RX3's as rotaries is what I mainly worked on at the time