Anyone know whats involved in doing such a thing? A manual conversion isn't quite justifiable on my car, but it'd be nice to have some control over when it changes gear, depending on the expenses involved to do it.

Atm I'm thinking TCU, Shifter Box and a TJ/KJ cluster with the 4sp Tippy lights. Anything else? I don't suppose it'd all just plug and play would it..

Anyone know whats involved in doing such a thing? A manual conversion isn't quite justifiable on my car, but it'd be nice to have some control over when it changes gear, depending on the expenses involved to do it.

Atm I'm thinking TCU, Shifter Box and a TJ/KJ cluster with the 4sp Tippy lights. Anything else? I don't suppose it'd all just plug and play would it..


For the effort involved, personally i wouldnt even bother, the links need to be changed also, and i dont think you can use that box as its different i think? dunno,

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6362&highlight=tiptronic+conversion

Its not quite the same but gives you all the issues in doing this

Yeah scratch this idea..lol

Cheers.

Didnt think You'd post a thread about it :P
manual conversion is the way to go but i doubt you'll be finding a gearbox in a hurry!

']Didnt think You'd post a thread about it :P
manual conversion is the way to go but i doubt you'll be finding a gearbox in a hurry!


Getting a gearbox is really no issue, just got to think outside the square, a whole car is worth <1k-1800 at a wreckers auctions. Then you have all the looms and other giggity bits to sell to recoup the cost.

Wheres buying all the bits seperate will cost you at least that and you wont have any giggity bits to sell to recoup cost.

Only downside is having a place to store said car, but vacant blocks, front yards, driveway, next door neighbours pool, all work rather well.

just hold out mate, a good deal comes around a fair bit, there are a lot of magnas out there. so just just gota know where to look, e-bay, FS section here, and wreckers

TCU?

Third gens ECU contains the TCU, so you'll need a new ECU. Not to mention BEM and new keys, new wiring to light up the tippy dash lights etc etc...

Waste of time. Use the search function too this has been covered a bit in times of yore IIRC.

After using both tiptronic and non-tiptronic, i can tell you the level of "control" isn't any different. Really its just wank factor, whether you drop a gear by sliding the shifter backwards, or sliding it backwards with tippy, its essentially the same thing.

Yeah it was just to get an idea of whats involved, it'd be good if it were cheap enough to do, but the expenses weigh out the benefits.

As for level of control, downshifting isn't important, the normal auto is fine at that like said. Its upshifting that makes a difference, the auto's in these cars hold gears far too long sometimes and I'd like some control over that, but as said its too expensive to justify.

And Paul :gtfo:...as if you don't post up threads for things that don't necessarily need new threads dedicated to them.
:P

Hey i have an idea
if you wanna be a sik****, put the lever in 1, then, up to 2, then 3 and then 4

hey look automatic tippy conversion! all the control over shift points you need

:D :P

']Hey i have an idea
if you wanna be a sik****, put the lever in 1, then, up to 2, then 3 and then 4

hey look automatic tippy conversion! all the control over shift points you need

:D :P
Dunno about your gearbox but I've never used an auto that upshifts when you move the selector from L to 2, 2 to 3 etc...it still upshifts when it feels like it, you just changing the highest gear it'll change in to. If anything that slows down how quickly you change gears, I want it to shift at lower revs, not higher, the opposite of a sik**** lol

Still downshifts whenever it feels like it too (aka. not as quick as you might want).

Dunno about your gearbox but I've never used an auto that upshifts when you move the selector from L to 2, 2 to 3 etc...it still upshifts when it feels like it, you just changing the highest gear it'll change in to. If anything that slows down how quickly you change gears, I want it to shift at lower revs,nt higher, the opposite of a sik**** lol
U realise that even then it wont always changes gears it will do it when the tcu wants to

To be honest the tippy is more a gimmick than anything else. I barely ever use it, except when going down steep hills to take advantage of engine braking. Go manual instead ;)

To be honest the tippy is more a gimmick than anything else. I barely ever use it, except when going down steep hills to take advantage of engine braking. Go manual instead ;)
I don't use D... Can't stand not being in the gear I want... One day I'll buy a manual.

U realise that even then it wont always changes gears it will do it when the tcu wants to
I've driven a few tippy 3rd gens and 9 times out of 10 they shift when you want it to, only doesn't when your below certain speeds for that gear. Also has the benefit if starting in 2nd, something I would quite like on wet inclines and grass hills.

Anywho it's all beside the point because its not cost effective, far too much needs changing and as a result it won't be done.

I've driven a few tippy 3rd gens and 9 times out of 10 they shift when you want it to, only doesn't when your below certain speeds for that gear. Also has the benefit if starting in 2nd, something I would quite like on wet inclines and grass hills.

Anywho it's all beside the point because its not cost effective, far too much needs changing and as a result it won't be done.

With starting in 2nd gear, just learn to not depress the noise pedal too much, hell if i can control traction in a SC magna anyone can in a NA.

Lugo - Have you had much practice shifting with your foot? I can make my car shift pretty quickly being in drive just by how i use the pedal. If you want the car to upshift at lower revs, release the pedal, and then put your foot down again (but not too far). It takes awhile to get the hang of, but handy.

Yeah I know how to drive the car to make it shift, just would've preferred not to have to. As for controlling traction, first I'd imagine you'd have Traction Control, which makes it piss easy. The roads themselves are what causes much of the problem with launching traction, some of them are really steep uphills, and many are really smooth which becomes really slippery in the wet, the same intersections I have trouble with in the TR with Astron power.

I've driven a tippy TJ through a couple the same intersection in the soaking rain, and 2nd gear makes for a much easier and quicker launch, there's not much you can do in 1st to make it grip as well. As for grassy inclines, some of them, its impossible in 1st, you can try all you like, when the grass is wet your not getting up, in 2nd however, it works...just.

Anyway as said its not worth worrying about, too much effort. Its not that I can't drive the car as is, I've driven it a heck of a lot since buying it at the start of the year and I know exactly how to get the most out of it in all those circumstances, but the tippy would have taken much of the effort out of it and made some things much easier, and more enjoyable.

Yeah I know how to drive the car to make it shift, just would've preferred not to have to. As for controlling traction, first I'd imagine you'd have Traction Control, which makes it piss easy. The roads themselves are what causes much of the problem with launching traction, some of them are really steep uphills, and many are really smooth which becomes really slippery in the wet, the same intersections I have trouble with in the TR with Astron power.

I've driven a tippy TJ through a couple the same intersection in the soaking rain, and 2nd gear makes for a much easier and quicker launch, there's not much you can do in 1st to make it grip as well. As for grassy inclines, some of them, its impossible in 1st, you can try all you like, when the grass is wet your not getting up, in 2nd however, it works...just.

Anyway as said its not worth worrying about, too much effort. Its not that I can't drive the car as is, I've driven it a heck of a lot since buying it at the start of the year and I know exactly how to get the most out of it in all those circumstances, but the tippy would have taken much of the effort out of it and made some things much easier, and more enjoyable.

Incorrect,

I have no TC of any nature, just knowing the car well enough for how much throttle application to put in to get the car moving without spinning. As for taking off on wet grassy inclines doesnt matter what car your in, good chance that you will spin the tyres regardless of 50hp or 500hp. You just need to learn to use the gas pedal correctly, by the sounds of it you have a lead plate on the sole of your shoe, espically if you want to play with the tranny to compensate for wheel spin in an Unmodded NA.

Listen I didn't open this thread so people could have digs at my driving techniques and habits, gears play a part in controlling launches, traction, and so on, I may not be the best at doing all this myself, but I've learned about how such things work from people trained to use it with much more experience than yourself.

What I wanted the tip-tronic selection for is irrelevant in this thread anyway, I didn't ask for opinions on anything, simply what was involved in the change over, if you've got nothing further to contribute then please don't post.....this is completely typical of amc.........

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Listen I didn't open this thread so people could have digs at my driving techniques and habits, gears play a part in controlling launches, traction, and so on, I may not be the best at doing all this myself, but I've learned about how such things work from people trained to use it with much more experienced with the mechanics than yourself.

What I wanted the tip-tronic selection for is irrelevant in this thread anyway, I didn't ask for opinions on anything, simply what was involved in the change over, if you've got nothing to contribute then please don't post.....this is completely typical of amc.........

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I feel for ya mate! My stepbro has been for several driving tests and never passed I had to get up a take him to work etc which was a pain but once I eventually woke up it was alright! I'm definetely not a 6 am person! Plus the few bingles I've had over the years :redface: a couple weren't my fault but my last major one was :redface: :redface:

Oh and I would like triptronic myself cos I can only drive auto cos thats the licence i went for and didn't wanna pay to resit for a manual!


Ok Mods close the thread for Lugo Pretty Please!

PS Lugo I'm trying to be relevant in my posts! I know its my 1st post in this thread!

Lugo - Have you had much practice shifting with your foot? I can make my car shift pretty quickly being in drive just by how i use the pedal. If you want the car to upshift at lower revs, release the pedal, and then put your foot down again (but not too far). It takes awhile to get the hang of, but handy.
ive only ever driven manuals for 6 years but the odd occasion i drive an auto i can do this no problem no matter what car, tippy in the magna at least is pure wank factor

lugo i think you should learn how to control your accelerator to change gears. :P

just jokes dude, i remember reading or asking about this....i believe AR5S had some insight into it, and it is alot more trouble than its worth. If you want a manual - just bide your time and you'll be alright, because if u go to tippy you will eventually get a manual anyway. So just skip the wank and just wait for the clutch.