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Mohit
28-09-2008, 09:37 AM
It really annoys me that only the central and driver's side rear view mirrors in the Verada are auto dimming/chromatic, while the passenger side is not.
Does anyone know if LHD Diamantes came with chromatic rear view mirrors? If they did then would it be possible to fit a driver's side rear view mirror from a Diamante into the passenger's side mirror of a Verada?
I think physically the mirror woud fit into the mirror housing but not sure if the passenger side of the Verada is wired up for a chromatic mirror to work on that side?
mcs_xi
28-09-2008, 09:45 AM
I believe they were chromatic. Some will also be heated! But as far as I'm aware, they are not convex as the ADM passenger side are. Im not sure if retrofitting a non-convex is illegal either. Also, the chromatic mirrors were part of an option pack in the diamante. But to get it to work is just a signal wire. It can be spliced from the other mirror.
Although, I can't see a Polizia paying attention to the lack of an 'objects closer' sign whilst pulling you over.
Mohit
28-09-2008, 11:24 AM
I believe they were chromatic. Some will also be heated! But as far as I'm aware, they are not convex as the ADM passenger side are. Im not sure if retrofitting a non-convex is illegal either. Also, the chromatic mirrors were part of an option pack in the diamante. But to get it to work is just a signal wire. It can be spliced from the other mirror.
Although, I can't see a Polizia paying attention to the lack of an 'objects closer' sign whilst pulling you over.
Interesting. Now to find a Diamante driver's side chromatic mirror.
The "objects closer" sign doesn't bother me as i was gonna get some custom made stickers that said "Assholes closer than you think" anyway :badgrin:
doddski
28-09-2008, 11:30 AM
the lack of passengers side dimming function used to annoy me, but iv adjusted the mirror so that at night i dont get annoyed too much by headlights behind me yet can still retain some sort of use outa it.
if you manage get it to work/source a dimming pass side diamante mirror, see if you can get two - so i can do it too :)
FamilyWagon
28-09-2008, 11:39 AM
My KE had a non-convex passenger mirror when brand new from factory.
The motor died in it and they replaced the whole mirror itself, and it had the convex glass in it.
So therefor it cant be illegal due to the fact that they origionally came with a standard glass in them.
alscall
28-09-2008, 11:43 AM
if you manage get it to work/source a dimming pass side diamante mirror, see if you can get two - so i can do it too :)
Make it 3. :D
Mohit
28-09-2008, 11:59 AM
My KE had a non-convex passenger mirror when brand new from factory.
The motor died in it and they replaced the whole mirror itself, and it had the convex glass in it.
So therefor it cant be illegal due to the fact that they origionally came with a standard glass in them.
Yeh my KJ's passenger side rear view mirror is non-convex as well. That's why i stuck those convex blind spot mirrors on both of my rear view mirrors.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/Verada/verada55.jpg
Articuno
28-09-2008, 12:05 PM
Newb question, but what is chromatic?
mcs_xi
28-09-2008, 12:06 PM
My TE had a STD flat mirror to the passenger side when i had it, but as far as i was aware, after the beginning to mid 97 onwards, they were convex due to regulatory policy shift. I am at a loss to explain Mohit's (KJ!) mirror though, as my KH, every TH i have seen and my mothers TJ have convex mirrors.
Once you have sourced a mirror Mohit, you will need to splice both the Brown/Green & Brown/Red wires going to the drvers side as they are the signal wires for the external mirrors. No additional wiring is necessary and the mirror you source should have the plug end supplied with it
Newb question, but what is chromatic?
EDIT: It is actually Electro-Chromatic. It is a film of charged particles which disipate light if electricity is passed through them. The mirrors have sensors front and back and detect if the light from behind the car is brighter than that light in front. If so, the electricity is passed through the film and the mirror becomes less reflective.
MR GOOGLES ANSWER (http://www.murakami-kaimeido.co.jp/english/mirror/mirror_e_tech_ecm.html)
Mohit
28-09-2008, 12:12 PM
Once you have sourced a mirror Mohit, you will need to splice both the Brown/Green & Brown/Red wires going to the drvers side as they are the signal wires for the external mirrors. No additional wiring is necessary and the mirror you source should have the plug end supplied with it
Cool thanks for the tip will see how it goes once i actually find the correct mirror.
doddski
28-09-2008, 12:55 PM
EDIT: It is actually Electro-Chromatic. It is a film of charged particles which disipate light if electricity is passed through them. The mirrors have sensors front and back and detect if the light from behind the car is brighter than that light in front. If so, the electricity is passed through the film and the mirror becomes less reflective.
MR GOOGLES ANSWER (http://www.murakami-kaimeido.co.jp/english/mirror/mirror_e_tech_ecm.html)
not all the mirrors have the light sensors on them - it is only in inside rear view mirror that has the front and back light sensors on it...
It really annoys me that only the central and driver's side rear view mirrors in the Verada are auto dimming/chromatic, while the passenger side is not.
Does anyone know if LHD Diamantes came with chromatic rear view mirrors? If they did then would it be possible to fit a driver's side rear view mirror from a Diamante into the passenger's side mirror of a Verada?
I think physically the mirror woud fit into the mirror housing but not sure if the passenger side of the Verada is wired up for a chromatic mirror to work on that side?
And my boss' 2006 HSV Grange only has the elctro chromatic centre mirror. Generally, the curvature of the lefthand mirror causes it not to reflect a lot of light into the cabin. Also, as the rules go, a safety device that is fitted to a vehicle can not be replaced by a standard one. So, since the lefthand parabolic mirror was introduced as a safety device, you must replace it with the same. With Mohit's KJ, the only reason I can think of is that the previous owner replaced it with a standard mirror when it was broken.
MR_WOODY_TJ
28-09-2008, 07:13 PM
prob stupid Q's but what is the advantage of there mirrors?(what do they do) and if you use a mirror from USA isnt it goung to be realy hard to see/judge while reversing-so on and so fourth as it is a extended view?
not trying to be a tool but i am interested to know!
prob stupid Q's but what is the advantage of there mirrors?(what do they do) and if you use a mirror from USA isnt it goung to be realy hard to see/judge while reversing-so on and so fourth as it is a extended view?
not trying to be a tool but i am interested to know!
It darkens when someone highbeams you from behind. It goes through several stages of darkness from clear to greenish to something like dark monochrome.
matty.c
01-10-2008, 08:19 AM
lets just go through a scenario...
Police man pulls me over for a 'random breath test'
'good afternoon sir, just stopped you to perform OMG!!! you don't have a convex mirror on your passenger side!'
not likley..
working in the insurance industry.. it wouldn't make a difference to a payout on a claim either..
wannamagna
01-10-2008, 08:45 AM
already looked into this not really worth it ive emailed gentex.com (the manufacturer of the mirror glass) and theyre not prepared to make them as mitsy only wanted rhs ones made.
[shhh]ayne
01-10-2008, 09:47 AM
Interesting. Now to find a Diamante driver's side chromatic mirror.
The "objects closer" sign doesn't bother me as i was gonna get some custom made stickers that said "Assholes closer than you think" anyway :badgrin:
where do you source your diamante parts from?
im after a few things and they never appear on ebay!
and if they do the price is way toooo hight
Gerard
01-10-2008, 09:50 AM
ayne']where do you source your diamante parts from?
im after a few things and they never appear on ebay!
and if they do the price is way toooo hight
im taking a guess that mohit is a us ebay troll, he finds some good stuff at times
he also pays a lot for them
worth it when you see how nice his car is
[shhh]ayne
01-10-2008, 10:10 AM
yeh i know
i go one ebay motors regularly to
i just guess its the quick or the dead
Mohit
01-10-2008, 05:23 PM
im taking a guess that mohit is a us ebay troll, he finds some good stuff at times
he also pays a lot for them
Yes i am an eBay USA hore :D
Parts usually aren't that expensive, but postage hurts sometime.
To me it's worth it in the end.
[TUFFTR]
01-10-2008, 06:07 PM
Yes i am an eBay USA hore :D
Parts usually aren't that expensive, but postage hurts sometime.
To me it's worth it in the end.
lurveeee Ebay.com
[shhh]ayne
01-10-2008, 06:10 PM
Yes i am an eBay USA hore :D
Parts usually aren't that expensive, but postage hurts sometime.
To me it's worth it in the end.
some guy sourced the lighted rear markers for me out of a diamante being wrecked
told me $30 for the lights and $40 for postage
pretty sure i can get them cheaper here
and
i want a diamante console
but they're all f******* beige!
havent seen a grey one for ages
magna00
01-10-2008, 06:12 PM
ayne']some guy sourced the lighted rear markers for me out of a diamante being wrecked
told me $30 for the lights and $40 for postage
pretty sure i can get them cheaper here
and
i want a diamante console
but they're all f******* beige!
havent seen a grey one for ages
Giggle giggle giggle, ive got a black one coming :cool:
Oh yeah was 10 bucks US + 15 for freight.
[shhh]ayne
01-10-2008, 06:15 PM
Giggle giggle giggle, ive got a black one coming :cool:
Oh yeah was 10 bucks US + 15 for freight.
so jealousssss!
how
when did you get it
ive checked everyday for at least a month now
[shhh]ayne
01-10-2008, 06:49 PM
mohit just posted a link in the ebay section
theres a mirror on ebay motors atm
magna00
01-10-2008, 07:05 PM
ayne']so jealousssss!
how
when did you get it
ive checked everyday for at least a month now
he was selling the entire console, and i said ill buy the lot just throw the console out and send me the lid, so he just charged me 10 bucks for it.
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