I finally received my OBD2 scanner today to diagnose my CEL probs.

I was amazed, it seems the last thing I tried with my O2 sensors has actally solved the problem & the light came on because of two different MAF sensor codes.

Anyway I cleared them with the scanner & will see if they come up again & try to work out why!?

Definately gonna hold off bolting up my Fujita CAI now until I'm sure I don't have any MAF probs as the CAI will probably agrevate that.

Once that goes on & is happy my TMR supercharger will be on order :badgrin:

O2 problem definately cured it seems but I keep getting a P0106 which I need to investigate more. Seems to be something to do with the intake, maybe a bad sensor or airleak ????? Only comes up when I get that rough idle when cold thing happening which seems to be intermittent also :nuts:

Well now my P0106 code has disappeared by itself without being reset by the scanner ..... hmmmm. I was going to take it to Mitsubishi when I had a spare moment as I thought I had a intermittent fault with the MAP sensor.

The car has been running smooth for weeks at idle when cold also & no sign of the roughness.

Hallelujah brother, the 380 has healed itself! lol

Now for some more mods :badgrin:

Hallelujah brother, the 380 has healed itself! lol

Now for some more mods :badgrin:

Now your just asking for trouble lol

Goodluck with it mate, I really like your car.

Kieran

Well now my P0106 code has disappeared by itself without being reset by the scanner ..... hmmmm. I was going to take it to Mitsubishi when I had a spare moment as I thought I had a intermittent fault with the MAP sensor.

The car has been running smooth for weeks at idle when cold also & no sign of the roughness.

Hallelujah brother, the 380 has healed itself! lol

Now for some more mods :badgrin:

Baby Jesus, Mary and Joseph :bowdown:

Now your just asking for trouble lol

Goodluck with it mate, I really like your car.

Kieran
Thanks.

Trouble is my middle name & if I can organise my fabricator mate on the weekend my CAI will be bolting up ...... finally :cool:

Thanks.

Trouble is my middle name & if I can organise my fabricator mate on the weekend my CAI will be bolting up ...... finally :cool:

Just so as everyone knows; If i buy a 380 you are partly to blame lol

Now i just gotta find a Series III VR-X In manual, with leather and a sunroof in either red or blue in Qld for the right price and im set!! The search begins. Although i will probably give up and buy a Liberty lol

Just so as everyone knows; If i buy a 380 you are partly to blame lol

Now i just gotta find a Series III VR-X In manual, with leather and a sunroof in either red or blue in Qld for the right price and im set!! The search begins. Although i will probably give up and buy a Liberty lol
I don't mind being blamed for another modded 380 on the streets :cool:

Why don't you look into the TMR they are talking about in the other thread, bargain with all that gear on for $42k. Just open up the exhaust & intake some more & tweak the ecu & you would have a real tyre burner. I know you prefer manual but the auto box on these cars are magic & it seems there is a Quaife option available too which I will be looking into in the new year.

I don't mind being blamed for another modded 380 on the streets :cool:

Why don't you look into the TMR they are talking about in the other thread, bargain with all that gear on for $42k. Just open up the exhaust & intake some more & tweak the ecu & you would have a real tyre burner. I know you prefer manual but the auto box on these cars are magic & it seems there is a Quaife option available too which I will be looking into in the new year.

I actually have a disability where i cant drive autos, no **** im not being funny!! I just cant make them good to drive. Sure i can get from point A to point B and get the job done but its just not the same. I actually drove a twin turbo supra tonight that was auto and i can honestly say i would rather drive my manual '81 Mazda 626 :( its dam heartbraking it is. But yeah 42K is definatly not the right price lol i was thinkin more along the lines of 15ish

Oh :shock: Well good luck looking for the manual & apparantly there is a gear mod for the manual to bring the revs in top back to a normal value so you get decent fuel economy.

Where is there more info on the gear mod for manuals????

Ring Dave from RPW, he mentioned it in a conversation when I was enquiring about a Quaife diff a while back.

Hey Foozrcool,

Just been trying to install the new throttle body, but keep on coming up with a CEL light. Im wondering if your scanner could rectify the problem or do you think I should take it to a Mitsubishi Dearler and see if they could do it?

Hey Foozrcool,

Just been trying to install the new throttle body, but keep on coming up with a CEL light. Im wondering if your scanner could rectify the problem or do you think I should take it to a Mitsubishi Dearler and see if they could do it?


what throttle body you fitting?

what throttle body you fitting?

Probably one of Daves Overpriced ones with zero data to back it up

Probably one of Daves Overpriced ones with zero data to back it up
sounds AWESOME~!

sounds AWESOME~!

Exactly, hell if someone had a 380 nearby id have a look and see what you can do to them...

Yep its one of those ones.....was told that there will be no probs with installing it!! But my ca wants to prove him otherwise!!

Exactly, hell if someone had a 380 nearby id have a look and see what you can do to them...

I'm sure we could arrange something where are you located?

I'm sure we could arrange something where are you located?

In newcastle/Maitland area, if you are closeish PM me, might be able to work something out.

Hey Foozrcool,

Just been trying to install the new throttle body, but keep on coming up with a CEL light. Im wondering if your scanner could rectify the problem or do you think I should take it to a Mitsubishi Dearler and see if they could do it?
Mine went on with no problems, after install I reset the ECU & all was fine.

All the scanner does is read the error code to give you an idea of what the problem was.

Try reseting it again & if still no joy you will probably have to get the code looked at.

I would help you out with my scanner but this will probably be my last post for a couple of weeks as I'm heading off overseas this evening.

Try reseting it again & if still no joy you will probably have to get the code looked at.

I would help you out with my scanner but this will probably be my last post for a couple of weeks as I'm heading off overseas this evening.
Yeah I tried doing that about 4 times....and still not resolved.
Any help would be great!

Yeah I tried doing that about 4 times....and still not resolved.
Any help would be great!

You have installed the TB already? If you are going to pull it off again in the not to distant future could you let me know please? id like to have a look at it.

Yeah I tried doing that about 4 times....and still not resolved.
Any help would be great!
Uhh this is going to sound a bit silly but how do you reset the ecu on the 380 is it the same as most others in that you disconnect the + side of the battery pump the brake a few times or something and then away you in or something else?

You have installed the TB already? If you are going to pull it off again in the not to distant future could you let me know please? id like to have a look at it.
Yeah I already installed it, but had to take it off due to the car going into a LIMP HOME mode where the revs dont go above 1k.

Yeah I already installed it, but had to take it off due to the car going into a LIMP HOME mode where the revs dont go above 1k.
I'm back from OS if you wanna plug my scanner in. I can't believe the limp home mode from the throttle body especially since I had no probs at all. Wonder if RPW have done something else to it since I got mine?:confused:

I'm back from OS if you wanna plug my scanner in. I can't believe the limp home mode from the throttle body especially since I had no probs at all. Wonder if RPW have done something else to it since I got mine?:confused:
Its ok. I ended up taking it to Mitsubishi service centre, they had no joy with it either. Also took it to a auto-electrician, they couldnt reset it either. I just ended up sending it back to RPW.
Cheers for your help mate!

Ok bummer, wonder what was so much different to mine. I've been CEL free for a while now but I'm sure it will rear its ugly head again soon once I start tinkering. :redface:

Yeah I was pretty disappointed. I even took off the cold air induction and used stock, still to no avail! Oh well. just means I can put the extra cash towards forced induction! :badgrin:

Yeah I was pretty disappointed. I even took off the cold air induction and used stock, still to no avail! Oh well. just means I can put the extra cash towards forced induction! :badgrin:

CAI??? where from and how much and how easy was it to fit?????? I MUST KNOW!!!

Pictures too, please.

It was a home job. It was done by a good mate of mine who does custom intakes for a living. Only cost me a carton.
I will post up piks of the "before", but will only post piks up of the "after" when I have COMPLELTY finished and happy with it! Sorry fellas!!

Just had my new 3" high flow metal cat installed along with 3" exhaust & twin 2.25" outlets. Installed my final O2 sensor spacers & am pleased to say NO CEL. :D

I'm gonna have to take it back though as it is soooooooo loud, but hell it has plenty of poke! :badgrin:

Sounds Great, perserverance pays.... Well done, That would be one fast N/A 380:cool:

Well my aim is after new year see if I can get it quietened down to an acceptable level & get the CAI on & get it dynoed to get a final N/A figure before the supercharger goes on :cool:

Well my aim is after new year see if I can get it quietened down to an acceptable level & get the CAI on & get it dynoed to get a final N/A figure before the supercharger goes on :cool:
I know it was suggested already, somewhere or other here, but you should make a thread in Members Rides detailing everything you have done here, with all the pics (if you have a) the time, and b) all the pics). Would be very interesting reading.

Just had my new 3" high flow metal cat installed along with 3" exhaust & twin 2.25" outlets. Installed my final O2 sensor spacers & am pleased to say NO CEL. :D

I'm gonna have to take it back though as it is soooooooo loud, but hell it has plenty of poke! :badgrin:


Pics or it didnt happen!:D

would like to see it, how they did it.

Yeah, c'mon Rob, where's the pics?

Can you try and get some shots of the 02 spacers?

I'm really contemplating going extractors and CAI (if yours works out).

Subjectively, how much do you think you've gained with the exhaust change?

Yeah, c'mon Rob, where's the pics?

Can you try and get some shots of the 02 spacers?

I'm really contemplating going extractors and CAI (if yours works out).

Subjectively, how much do you think you've gained with the exhaust change?
Yep ok guys, busy time of year!

Just heading away for a few more days & will take the car back to get the exhaust quieted down. Will get some pics to keep you all happy & will look at doing my own thread also.

Not sure about the extractors Knotched but at the time 20kw atm was mentioned. You can definitely notice the difference from low/mid torque to more top end power. Since I opened the exhaust right up it has a lot more go but its so f...ing loud. My AFR's are all messed up again so I will sort it out & get some pics & dyno readings done before going forced induction.

Not sure about the extractors Knotched but at the time 20kw atm was mentioned. You can definitely notice the difference from low/mid torque to more top end power. Since I opened the exhaust right up it has a lot more go but its so f...ing loud. My AFR's are all messed up again so I will sort it out & get some pics & dyno readings done before going forced induction.

Well that's really interesting. Of course proof will be the dyno readout, but I'm amazed that a change to 3" and hi-flo cat can be such a difference. I suppose in your case the engine is putting out probably close to it's unconstrained peak and a small, say 5%, improvement will be a large net kw gain.

Yet again, it shows how much can be rung from these engines by just de-restricting them.

I'm thinking about another theory which is that the standard third cat maybe a lot more restrictive than everyone realises. I lost mine straight up with the first change to the exhaust and got a reasonably good output. Those who have the 2.5" system mostly got them fitted from the third cat back; am I right?
Maybe this is not such a good idea. Either ditch it like I did or get a hi-flo version.
BloodAsp, did you replace the standard third cat? If not, that maybe your answer...

Roll on the CAI.

Thinking of which, I'm tempted to go down the pod path as that will have the most theoretical flow.

So, the path to a fully unrestricted 6G75 may be:
1. POD filter
2. 3" system with straight thru muffler
3. Extractors
4. Hi flow metal cat

*add earmuffs

Well that's really interesting. Of course proof will be the dyno readout, but I'm amazed that a change to 3" and hi-flo cat can be such a difference. I suppose in your case the engine is putting out probably close to it's unconstrained peak and a small, say 5%, improvement will be a large net kw gain.

Yet again, it shows how much can be rung from these engines by just de-restricting them.

I'm thinking about another theory which is that the standard third cat maybe a lot more restrictive than everyone realises. I lost mine straight up with the first change to the exhaust and got a reasonably good output. Those who have the 2.5" system mostly got them fitted from the third cat back; am I right?
Maybe this is not such a good idea. Either ditch it like I did or get a hi-flo version.
BloodAsp, did you replace the standard third cat? If not, that maybe your answer...

Roll on the CAI.

Thinking of which, I'm tempted to go down the pod path as that will have the most theoretical flow.

So, the path to a fully unrestricted 6G75 may be:
1. POD filter
2. 3" system with straight thru muffler
3. Extractors
4. Hi flow metal cat

*add earmuffs

Yeah replaced 3rd cat, the reason i've come up with is that when my car was tuned there was no advancement done to the timing due to the car stalling when it was attempted and the original company not be able to or being bothered to try and correct it. it's the only thing different in our tunes.

As you guys are talking about the 3rd cat, I have some questions...
To those who removed the cat completely: what was the difference in noise and accelaration/power/etc? Did the car run better, smoother, rougher, after? What fuel economy? Did any warning lights with this 'mod'? Initally I recall opinions of this being an illegal mod - but wasn't it later confirmed not so? (ie a car with 3 cats is still legit with 2 cats)
To those who replaced standard cat with hi-flo cat: again, what was the difference in noise and accelaration/power/etc? And running, fuel economy, etc.
I leaning towards replacing the cat rather than deleting it (to stay on the right side of the law, if that is the law), as this seems to be another very simple mod. As the 380 has 3 cats standard, the car is already overly restricted (or so it would appear). Hopefully this mod would be complimented by the other mods we/I have already effected.

The Service centre I go to, where I bought the car, told me the third cat was included as an easy way to achieve some back pressure required to help the standard tune. The car was already complying with Euro3 emission standards with the cats on each bank.

So I removed it and I'm sure it has helped with a slightly higher output. I don't know whether it would make much difference to noise or not. I haven't had any CEL problems with that change.
I'm certain it's not illegal.

when i got 2.5 fitted i had 2.5 from the header flange back with no 3rd cat, no resinators or mufflers. it was so loud it wasnt funny. so they refitted the 3rd cat still is load under load but quiet at idle and cruise. im gonna eventually get a 3" high flow fitted.

I haven't had any CEL problems with that change.
I'm certain it's not illegal.
You won't have a CEL prob because the engine to all O2 sensors has not changed. All your changes were after the O2 sensors.

when i got 2.5 fitted i had 2.5 from the header flange back with no 3rd cat, no resinators or mufflers. it was so loud it wasnt funny. so they refitted the 3rd cat
Are you saying that you run ONLY the stock 3 cats as mufflers on your exhaust?? :confused:

Are you saying that you run ONLY the stock 3 cats as mufflers on your exhaust?? :confused:

yep. no mufflers or resinators

The third cat is only a "secondary" cat used to clean up anything that the 2 primary cats may have missed.

yep. no mufflers or resinators
Wow probably about as loud as mine ATM then.

I have it booked back in Wednesday to see what they can do with it, also noticed this morn when I had a look under they didn't do mandrel bends as quoted. Oh well looks like exhaust mark 3 coming up Wednesday.

I'm happy to retain the end muffler (which was my first mod) but I wouldn't mind turfing the third cat, if it poses no legal probs. Another great mod if it releases a little more power.

I'm sure it would, go on do it! ............ :D

Wow probably about as loud as mine ATM then.

I have it booked back in Wednesday to see what they can do with it, also noticed this morn when I had a look under they didn't do mandrel bends as quoted. Oh well looks like exhaust mark 3 coming up Wednesday.

i doubt they called make it mandrel as i think its actual heated up or made that way not bent.

its still pretty loud but im happy with it.

My exhaust system is stock, My wife doesnt mind the 18 inch wheels, 90mm intake, KN filter but a new rear muffler is a no no:cry: Removing the 3rd cat is something I could easily sneak past her:badgrin: Do you think I would notice any slight power increase just by removing it, It must be worth an extra couple of KW.

My exhaust system is stock, My wife doesnt mind the 18 inch wheels, 90mm intake, KN filter but a new rear muffler is a no no:cry: Removing the 3rd cat is something I could easily sneak past her:badgrin: Do you think I would notice any slight power increase just by removing it, It must be worth an extra couple of KW.
My new muffler wasn't appreciated either (personally didn't think it was THAT loud), but I didn't run it by her first - same with the wheels. Oops. But you should be able to sneak a deleted third cat under the wife-radar. As for the power gain by its removal, that's something I'm also contemplating. Logically it must be a gain.

Guys, It is easy to say sorry after the event and have a few bad days with the wife not talking to you.
:D

WOW lets see here, get new muffler for 380:D Wife doesnt talk to me for a couple of days:D Sounds like a win win situation to me:bowrofl:

i doubt they called make it mandrel as i think its actual heated up or made that way not bent.
Yep mandrel is bent, it's a bit like a bending spring for plastic electrical conduit which gives you a smooth unrestricted bend.

ok i learnt something today

I won't be chopping off my third cat. Went to exhaust shop where I did my muffler mod and the guy said he wouldn't touch it as it's illegal and attracts a $25,000 fine (for him, $2,000 for me). In his opinion it wouldn't make a huge difference anyway. So despite other users here doing such mods already, and other exhaust shops able to do it, I decided to leave such illegal mods in my foolish past. I'm happy with mods here and there, but not if they're illegal. I must point out, that I'm not getting on my soapbox to preach to you all what you should and shouldn't do. Your choice for a mod is your own business; legal or illegal, I don't care. But for my own car, I prefer to keep it legal.

Could always replace it with a hi-flow metal cat like me & Blood.

Got the exhaust fixed today, ended up retaining the 3" metal cat & dropping the pipe size dow to 2.5" & puting slightly bigger Supercat mufflers on the tailpipes after trying all different scenarios. (Additional cost $0, highly recommend Right Price Exhausts) Slightly less drone than my old system with more of a note up in the revs. Have lost the extra zap I seemed to have with the open (loud) exhaust but should have plenty of headroom for FI.

Next step fit the CAI ...... :cool:

Could always replace it with a hi-flow metal cat like me & Blood.
Yes of course, forgot to mention that in my little rant. Bugger I forgot to ask the guy today about a hi-flo cat. We chatted for about 10 minutes then his phone rang. As he was already working on a car (with owner standing by), I decided to leave at that point.

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Next step fit the CAI ...... :cool:

Hey Fooz,
If you are interested in getting rid of the Galant intake i am interested in a little deal

Hey Fooz,
If you are interested in getting rid of the Galant intake i am interested in a little deal
Will keep it in mind, thinking I might hang on to it for a bit & make sure I don't get CEL up etc from the CAI.

I won't be chopping off my third cat. Went to exhaust shop where I did my muffler mod and the guy said he wouldn't touch it as it's illegal and attracts a $25,000 fine (for him, $2,000 for me). In his opinion it wouldn't make a huge difference anyway. So despite other users here doing such mods already, and other exhaust shops able to do it, I decided to leave such illegal mods in my foolish past. I'm happy with mods here and there, but not if they're illegal. I must point out, that I'm not getting on my soapbox to preach to you all what you should and shouldn't do. Your choice for a mod is your own business; legal or illegal, I don't care. But for my own car, I prefer to keep it legal.
I also went to the exhaust shop today and they told me the exact same rant, As for it being illegal I find it a bit hard to believe, if they tested the car for emmisions Im sure the 2 primary cats do more than whats required of them. After researching cat converters and how they work I do beleive removing the 3rd cat will make a differance to performance, Ill try anouther exhaust shop tomorrow:doubt:

PM Knotched & see where he got his done if you're around Brisbane.

I also went to the exhaust shop today and they told me the exact same rant, As for it being illegal I find it a bit hard to believe, if they tested the car for emmisions Im sure the 2 primary cats do more than whats required of them. After researching cat converters and how they work I do beleive removing the 3rd cat will make a differance to performance, Ill try anouther exhaust shop tomorrow:doubt:
I reckon removing the third cat would release some more power. As for shoptalk, I said that with 3 cats, the third one should be okay to chop off. Remember back in the 80s+90s cars only had 1 cat (and a friend of mine modded one with a pipe going straight through it). He said doesn't matter if it has 5 cats, you still cannot touch them because they are all there to comply with ADRs, and if 1 is removed cops would easily be able to pick up on it and measure it with an O2 sensor, etc etc.
I was planning to go somewhere else, but decided to abort the mod. If the hi-flo cat is any good, I'll try that. Good luck if you continue with the chop. I'm curious with the before/after power feel.

Well, I don't agree with your exhaust man, Grubco. The guy I know at Nundah Mitsubishi is in his 50's and the head serviceman. he spoke to me for a couple of hours re the Ralliart, 380 and Mitsubishi generally. I talked to him first before doing the exhaust. Also, in 2006 when I bought my car, I'm fairly certain Euro 3 emission targets weren't mandatory.
The ADRs have been changed when we all changed the intake so i wouldn't worry too much. Also if the Dept Transport ever tested my car for emissions I'm sure it would pass after what i was told.
If I fit extractors, it will be an entirely different story and putting a cat on after that may not comply.

Finally got around to take the car into Mitsubishi to get that intermittent P0106 CEL code checked out this morning & as I guessed it is a faulty MAP sensor on the intake manifold. They will be replacing it Friday morning, so that now means I can do the CAI without worry that they will blame that for the CEL.

I finally received my OBD2 scanner today to diagnose my CEL probs.

I was amazed, it seems the last thing I tried with my O2 sensors has actally solved the problem & the light came on because of two different MAF sensor codes.

Anyway I cleared them with the scanner & will see if they come up again & try to work out why!?

Definately gonna hold off bolting up my Fujita CAI now until I'm sure I don't have any MAF probs as the CAI will probably agrevate that.

Once that goes on & is happy my TMR supercharger will be on order :badgrin:

Mate, out of curiosity, where did you get the scanner and roughly how much did it set you back

Mate, out of curiosity, where did you get the scanner and roughly how much did it set you backI ended up buying it from the USA through Ebay, I got the Acton CP9180 which does a bit more than the basic ones & has the LCD screen with the code & description of what it is. Think I paid about $200AU so who knows what it would be now. Heres a link to it http://www.actron.com/product_detail.php?pid=16318 Just had a look on Ebay & they are still around $200 - 225 plus delivery.

What did the MAP sensor cost? Covered by warranty?
Easy to pull out and replace?

Dunno & yep will be covered by warranty. I have to take it back in Friday morning when they get the part & they said it would take about 2 minutes to install.

Just thinking the Sprintex will replace the whole manifold anyway, wonder if that sensor gets reused or another takes its place. Could be a waste of time but best to have it all spot on under warranty before I go FI. They mightn't think a manifold pressure switch should be replaced under warranty with FI lol