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Anon
05-11-2008, 03:38 PM
My tread depth is getting low and borderline legal, so new tyres are on the cards. I thought they maybe had another 3 months or so left in them...

But I had a closer look at my left rear and in two spots around the circumference closer to the shoulder is bald...but its not like this along the entire circumference! Other points around the circumference at the same distance from the shoulder have a few mms od tread. I don't understand how this can happen. Flat spotting comes to mind, but between ABS and being a magna, I don't think this is really plausible.

Anywho, I need new tyres. Current tyres are Nankang 235/40R18 on I think 7.5" rims. What tyres do people suggest? Not looking to spend a lot, max $300 a tyre.

Ers
05-11-2008, 03:42 PM
For long wearing tyres, I personally like Bridgestone's.

Dad has some on his VX Calais, medium-hard compound (17's). First set lasted 50 000km, that included me going to the national park for some spirited driving every 2 nights, a few accidental burn outs, and even my dad giving the car a caining.

Basically the tyre you want depends on what you want - soft, medium or hard compound?

I prefer a medium-hard compound, still gives excellent grip, and dont wear out too fast).

Anon
05-11-2008, 03:56 PM
$300 probably infers something harder than performance oriented.

The nankangs were $200 a piece, and you get what you pay for interms of grip.

JarRah
05-11-2008, 04:38 PM
Ive got Kuhmo Ecsta SPT's on mine at the moment. They came with the car when I bought it but they have been brilliant.

Have been gripping the road like nuthin else and make braking traction a hard thing to do.

But seeing though I didn't originally buy them have no idea how much they cost and from the looks of the Kuhmo site they are the top of the range in go fast kuhmo tyres.

alscall
05-11-2008, 04:54 PM
Ive got Kuhmo Ecsta SPT's on mine at the moment. They came with the car when I bought it but they have been brilliant.

Have been gripping the road like nuthin else and make braking traction a hard thing to do.

But seeing though I didn't originally buy them have no idea how much they cost and from the looks of the Kuhmo site they are the top of the range in go fast kuhmo tyres.

I've just bought 4. Good tyre so far. $270 each.

Schnell
06-11-2008, 09:22 AM
You get what you pay for interms of grip.Exactly. Which is why you should spend as much as you can. I went berserk and spent $500 a corner on Bridgestone RE050A's. In a 17 I would have thought these would be close to your target price of 300.

perry
06-11-2008, 09:34 AM
Maxxis are a great tyre for what they are and they not a pricey as others and they grip and wear well.

Annese
06-11-2008, 10:08 AM
I'm running Hankook HR2s in 235/40/18 at the moment. They're really grippy but downside is they're a little bit noisy. Nothing too bad though. Also i've done 5000kms on them so far and the tread is looking great at the moment.

Anon
06-11-2008, 10:51 AM
At the moment I'm heading to Kumho KU31s. Got some prices, lowest being $209. They fit the bill of being better than the nankangs, but not extreme to the point where I'll have grip on tap that I just won't be using.

Also I can't get over the choice now available for 18". I guess things have changed with a lot of passenger cars now coming with 18" stock, and when I got my rims there was very little choice.

Also had a guy look at my tyre thats dodgy and he was somewhat lost at what was happening, other than to say that its a defect with the tyre and if they weren't as worn as they were and needing replacing that he would've made a claim with nankang, because that just shouldn't happen.

MAD35L
06-11-2008, 12:47 PM
Maxxis are a great tyre for what they are and they not a pricey as others and they grip and wear well.

maxxis are dangerous, pure and simple. i know i have said this before, but people should not put their families lives in danger by running maxxis tyres

if you cannot afford anything else you really should adjust your driving to suit these tyres

Disciple
06-11-2008, 01:24 PM
maxxis are dangerous, pure and simple. i know i have said this before, but people should not put their families lives in danger by running maxxis tyres

if you cannot afford anything else you really should adjust your driving to suit these tyres
Please explain? That's a big call... I used Maxxis on my Ralliart for a couple years and we've been using Maxxis on my fiances Lancer for 3 years without a problem. They wear great, grip well, they're a bit noisy, but overall very good.

MAD35L
06-11-2008, 01:28 PM
Please explain? That's a big call... I used Maxxis on my Ralliart for a couple years and we've been using Maxxis on my fiances Lancer for 3 years without a problem. They wear great, grip well, they're a bit noisy, but overall very good.

they were far too hard a compound, in the wet there was next to no grip, in the heat of summer there was next to no grip, i only had them on for 5000km before i threw them away, ive never felt so unsafe in my car.

ozzy tyres in newcastle now wont sell them because "theyre rubbish" and from what i hear ozzy arent usually that concerned with safety, so these tyres must have made quite the impression

and ill also add that this was before i had any performance mods, so standard power and they just couldnt handle it

zero
06-11-2008, 01:52 PM
maxxis are dangerous, pure and simple. i know i have said this before, but people should not put their families lives in danger by running maxxis tyres

if you cannot afford anything else you really should adjust your driving to suit these tyres

Can you explain a little better?, how are they dangerous? I'm very happy with mine.

zero
06-11-2008, 01:55 PM
I'm using Z1's they were highly rated for their price.

MAD35L
06-11-2008, 02:02 PM
Can you explain a little better?, how are they dangerous? I'm very happy with mine.

read the last post

i have seen a lot of people on here say theyre happy with them, im just wondering if theyre happy with them because of the cost, or maybe they havent driven on decent tread to know what it should really perform like

and guys please dont take this as me being rude, im only bringing this up because i personally think theyre unsafe

Disciple
06-11-2008, 02:08 PM
read the last post

i have seen a lot of people on here say theyre happy with them, im just wondering if theyre happy with them because of the cost, or maybe they havent driven on decent tread to know what it should really perform like

and guys please dont take this as me being rude, im only bringing this up because i personally think theyre unsafe
I have Michellin Pilot Preceda PP2s on my EVO which cost $410 a corner. They have fairly high levels of grip. The Maxxis I've used (Z1's) were very good for the price. They aren't as good as the Michellin's obviously, but good none the less. They always do well in tyre tests against tyres twice their price. You sure the guy who sold you them at that shop wasn't retarded and actually poured acid onto all his Maxxis tyres?

MAD35L
06-11-2008, 02:11 PM
this cant be ruled out lol

im actually up for new tyres, so im open to suggestions for some 19/35/235s i really liked the 18s i had (NEXEN), but may want something a little better this time around

and i noticed you added "for the price" when talking about the MAXXIS, this is what im getting at, you are sometimes better off paying a little extra

zero
06-11-2008, 02:16 PM
MAXXIS VICTRA MAZ1 3rd place overall in WHEELS O6 tyre test.

MAD35L
06-11-2008, 02:19 PM
MAXXIS VICTRA MAZ1 3rd place overall in WHEELS O6 tyre test.

mid 07 was when i threw out my maxxis

Anon
06-11-2008, 02:21 PM
Tarring all tyres from a single brand with the same brush is a little bit harsh. Because one tyre compound and it's properties aren't too taste doesn't mean they all are the same.

I haven't run Maxxis so can't definatively say, however the tyre place I goto recommended the Ecstas and the Z1s for the price range. If the Z1s were crap, I'm sure they would've told me so (this tyre place is reasonably upfront). I've only heard good things about these Ecstas so I went with them instead.

Actually doing a quick search on Maxxis Z1 gives some complimentary reviews.

MAD35L
06-11-2008, 02:28 PM
all i know is a reputable tyre manufacturer shouldnt put tyres on the road like the 1s i had, and for this ill never buy maxxis again.

ive also turned a few friends away from them, lucky i got to them in time as a few actually had their cars booked in to get maxxis fitted.

as they say, do the right thing by a customer and theyll tell 10 people, do the wrong thing by a customer and be aware that theyll tell 20 people about it.

Anon
06-11-2008, 02:39 PM
At least they were round and weren't oval...

zero
06-11-2008, 02:46 PM
:snooty: :pray:

magna00
06-11-2008, 05:29 PM
Im running Goodyear Eagle F1's, pretty decent tyre, agressive tread pattern, made in Aus and were rated best tyre of 2006 i believe. They are standard fitment for quite a few Audis and the odd Beemer. Noise levels on the highway are really good, (alot quieter then my old RE55's) Wet grip excellent as well, with minimal movement with lots of standing water.

They also have a very chunky sidewall and have an extra lip to protect the edge of the rim. Ive gotten close to 45,000 out of mine (last 10,000 been thrashed with the blower) and still have another 5,000ish to go.

You can get them on fleabay for 200 per tyre atm and they tend to go for 300-350 each at tyre shops.

We also just put a set of Kumo's on the Old girls VRX lancer (2008) not sure on what model but they grip well and are fairly quiet as well. They were around 250 each i think.

zero
06-11-2008, 05:43 PM
Better get the EAGLE F1s,bargain.

grelise
06-11-2008, 06:03 PM
they were far too hard a compound, in the wet there was next to no grip, in the heat of summer there was next to no grip, i only had them on for 5000km before i threw them away, ive never felt so unsafe in my car.

ozzy tyres in newcastle now wont sell them because "theyre rubbish" and from what i hear ozzy arent usually that concerned with safety, so these tyres must have made quite the impression

and ill also add that this was before i had any performance mods, so standard power and they just couldnt handle it
I have the Maxxis Z1's and also live in NQLD where it's hot and humid for the majority of the year and have found the grip on these tyres to be very good.
Even with my recent trip to Melbourne the tyres were quiter then my last set which were Nankangs (never buy again.)
And found no problems with them in the wet and cruising up lake Mountain.
I got these at 245 a tyre.

magna00
06-11-2008, 07:13 PM
The Z1's are apparently really good, Scotts being trying to convince me to get a set for ages, but the other lot they make is very average, sounds like the ones you got Mad35l

MAD35L
06-11-2008, 07:17 PM
The Z1's are apparently really good, Scotts being trying to convince me to get a set for ages, but the other lot they make is very average, sounds like the ones you got Mad35l

sounds likely, but the way i see it i just cant trust a company that will put that product on the market.

im gunna spend up on my new shoes ;)

greenmatt
06-11-2008, 07:52 PM
Im running Goodyear Eagle F1's, pretty decent tyre, agressive tread pattern, made in Aus and were rated best tyre of 2006 i believe. They are standard fitment for quite a few Audis and the odd Beemer. Noise levels on the highway are really good, (alot quieter then my old RE55's) Wet grip excellent as well, with minimal movement with lots of standing water.

They also have a very chunky sidewall and have an extra lip to protect the edge of the rim. Ive gotten close to 45,000 out of mine (last 10,000 been thrashed with the blower) and still have another 5,000ish to go.

You can get them on fleabay for 200 per tyre atm and they tend to go for 300-350 each at tyre shops.

We also just put a set of Kumo's on the Old girls VRX lancer (2008) not sure on what model but they grip well and are fairly quiet as well. They were around 250 each i think.

I had two sets of Eagle F1's on the Verada and I was quite happy with them however on my latest car they caused an incurable alignment problem after about 10k, Im currently looking into replacements and the Kumho KU31 is looking like the go at the moment

Johnnyred
06-11-2008, 08:35 PM
I use high performance tyres on my car....I'd be very wary using Maxxis, I haven't used them but I wouldn't put them on my Black Beastie. I'd buy from a well known manufacturer who has lots of Research and Development dollars.

I run 18 x 9 Yokohamas on the rear and 18 x 8 Toyos on the front - retail for all four was $1100 (i got mine wholesale for $500 when the car was complianced.) but that's what you sould expect to pay for quality.

I always used Yokohamas for my TH Magna and rotated them regularly.

You've got to put good rubber on the road......

hlucin8
06-11-2008, 11:05 PM
Maxxis are a great tyre for what they are and they not a pricey as others and they grip and wear well.

+1 for the Maxiss! They are a great tyre regardles of price. In a Wheels test they came 1st in wet weather breaking and 4th in dry breaking. The other tyres at the top end of the test were all at least $100 a tyre more than the Maxiss. I've had them for a couple of years now and cant complain at all

SupremeMoFo
06-11-2008, 11:24 PM
Urgh... what part of "Exclusive Brethren" do people not get... ignorant twats. FFS, do not buy Maxxis tyres. It funds extremist Christian ideology.

Don't believe me? http://blacktowngreens.org/?page_id=6 - nearly at the bottom of the page.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/brethren-set-up-tyre-business-to-gain-funds-for-schools/2006/12/28/1166895421378.html
Google exclusive brethren maxxis.

zero
07-11-2008, 05:26 AM
Urgh... what part of "Exclusive Brethren" do people not get... ignorant twats. FFS, do not buy Maxxis tyres. It funds extremist Christian ideology.

Don't believe me? http://blacktowngreens.org/?page_id=6 - nearly at the bottom of the page.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/brethren-set-up-tyre-business-to-gain-funds-for-schools/2006/12/28/1166895421378.html
Google exclusive brethren maxxis.

Ahh well, just goes to show there's a little good in everything. lol

perry
07-11-2008, 05:50 AM
Urgh... what part of "Exclusive Brethren" do people not get... ignorant twats. FFS, do not buy Maxxis tyres. It funds extremist Christian ideology.

Don't believe me? http://blacktowngreens.org/?page_id=6 - nearly at the bottom of the page.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/brethren-set-up-tyre-business-to-gain-funds-for-schools/2006/12/28/1166895421378.html
Google exclusive brethren maxxis.

hmm didn't know that. but its each to their own and they are a good tyre

perry
07-11-2008, 05:55 AM
maxxis are dangerous, pure and simple. i know i have said this before, but people should not put their families lives in danger by running maxxis tyres

if you cannot afford anything else you really should adjust your driving to suit these tyres

hear we go again lol

as i've said in the other posts i've got maxxis tyres on my old 17" rims and they have done 35000k's when i had them (its about 40000 now, there on my girlfriends car) and they still have plenty of tread left grip well in the wet. Everyone has there favourite brands etc..

dainese
07-11-2008, 09:15 AM
The Maxxis MA-Z1 is proven and tested as a great tyre, even better considering its price.

MAD35L
07-11-2008, 09:41 AM
hear we go again lol

as i've said in the other posts i've got maxxis tyres on my old 17" rims and they have done 35000k's when i had them (its about 40000 now, there on my girlfriends car) and they still have plenty of tread left grip well in the wet. Everyone has there favourite brands etc..

i dont have any favourite brands, all i care is the safety of my loved ones, so i personally wont use maxxis tyres again, and i will continue to tell anyone who will listen.

in all things in life, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

perry
07-11-2008, 09:43 AM
The Maxxis MA-Z1 is proven and tested as a great tyre, even better considering its price.

:stoopid:


i dont have any favourite brands, all i care is the safety of my loved ones, so i personally wont use maxxis tyres again, and i will continue to tell anyone who will listen.

in all things in life, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

fair enough. i also care about the safety of my loved ones and it is true YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR but sometings cheap in life are also good :)

zero
07-11-2008, 09:45 AM
:stoopid:
:stoopid:

MAD35L
07-11-2008, 09:46 AM
sometings cheap in life are also good :)

were not talking about toilet paper here, cheap tyres are never good

perry
07-11-2008, 09:48 AM
were not talking about toilet paper here, cheap tyres are never good

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: , as i said in my last post sometings cheap in life are also good :). and many people on hear have got maxxis tyres and no complaints

MAD35L
07-11-2008, 09:52 AM
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: , as i said in my last post sometings cheap in life are also good :). and many people on hear have got maxxis tyres and no complaints

i see that too, but i still think price plays the biggest big part in that.

zero
07-11-2008, 09:55 AM
You may have convinced yourself but thats about it.

perry
07-11-2008, 09:55 AM
i see that too, but i still think price plays the biggest big part in that.

it might the only reason why i went for the maxxis is because a mate of mine got them on his commondore and they griped and wore well. My next set of tyres when my current ones on my 19's will be maxxis

MAD35L
07-11-2008, 09:58 AM
You may have convinced yourself but thats about it.

theres plenty of others on here that know that im right, its not like im a tyre salesman, i truly believe theyre unsafe.

but guys, do what ya want, its your life.

dainese
07-11-2008, 10:23 AM
theres plenty of others on here that know that im right, its not like im a tyre salesman, i truly believe theyre unsafe.

but guys, do what ya want, its your life.

relax, they aren't retreads or anything.
pfft "unsafe". settle down.

in the 06 wheels tyre review, the MAXXIS did really well in the majority of its tests, even against your favourite brand (whatever that is). It didn't win, but it came close.

this was the MA-Z1, i have no experience with the MA-V1. but you seem to be axe murdering the whole company and any one else who 'isn't reputable".

I assure you i'm the one that always tells friends and family to buy good tyres. i warn people that don't and i laugh at people with expensive cars that run cheap tyres. but it just so happens that the maxxis MA-Z1's are great tyres, and even better considering that they are priced well.

dainese
07-11-2008, 10:25 AM
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=943820&postcount=38

what's that really mean?

MAD35L
07-11-2008, 10:37 AM
relax, they aren't retreads or anything.
pfft "unsafe". settle down.

in the 06 wheels tyre review, the MAXXIS did really well in the majority of its tests, even against your favourite brand (whatever that is). It didn't win, but it came close.

this was the MA-Z1, i have no experience with the MA-V1. but you seem to be axe murdering the whole company and any one else who 'isn't reputable".

I assure you i'm the one that always tells friends and family to buy good tyres. i warn people that don't and i laugh at people with expensive cars that run cheap tyres. but it just so happens that the maxxis MA-Z1's are great tyres, and even better considering that they are priced well.

i wouldnt say it if i wasnt serious mate, i dont like throwing money away, but i did throw away 4 maxxis tyres with only 5000km on them

MAD35L
07-11-2008, 10:39 AM
and yes i will never buy off a company that puts a product on the road that almost had me in accidents with my son in the car

roy
07-11-2008, 10:57 AM
Im going to say the oppsited because it's what I think.

I go for cheap tyres, they all meet the same standard. Sure some have more grip and are above standard.

99% of the driving population go for the $120 a corner dunlops and bridgies, and still make it to work and back safe.

I guess you just can't go and tokyo drift and expect the same levels of grip, but for performance braking they would still perform fine (aka to standard)

Anon
07-11-2008, 11:45 AM
At the end of the day you have car Y, tyres X and driver Z. If you drive beyond X,Y and Z abilities, then you will have an accident.

Using the same logic given here that Maxxis tyres are unsafe, so is your car. An Evo with big Brembos would be able to stop and avoid an accident, where in the same circumstance where your Magna would land you in hospital.

It's just that in the circumstances, a tyre manufacturer (and a particular product at that) was the lowest link in the chain in your view.

MAD35L
07-11-2008, 11:50 AM
At the end of the day you have car Y, tyres X and driver Z. If you drive beyond X,Y and Z abilities, then you will have an accident.

Using the same logic given here that Maxxis tyres are unsafe, so is your car. An Evo with big Brembos would be able to stop and avoid an accident, where in the same circumstance where your Magna would land you in hospital.

It's just that in the circumstances, a tyre manufacturer (and a particular product at that) was the lowest link in the chain in your view.

true, the tyres were the weakest link on my car, so i fixed the problem. most of the money ive spent on my car has been for safety to match the extra power, brembos all round, braided lines (help me wook), suspension, wheels to fit the brakes, and tyres.

*EDIT* when i had the maxxis my magna was standard besides rims, still didnt stop me, and thats when i was driving with my son (miss daisy)

greenmatt
07-11-2008, 12:34 PM
At the end of the day you have car Y, tyres X and driver Z. If you drive beyond X,Y and Z abilities, then you will have an accident.

Using the same logic given here that Maxxis tyres are unsafe, so is your car. An Evo with big Brembos would be able to stop and avoid an accident, where in the same circumstance where your Magna would land you in hospital.

It's just that in the circumstances, a tyre manufacturer (and a particular product at that) was the lowest link in the chain in your view.

Tyres have a much bigger contribution to stopping once than the size of the brakes unless they are very inadequate.

Disciple
07-11-2008, 12:38 PM
If you have issues about tyres, just shell out for the expensive ones. That's what I did with my EVO - Michelin Pilot Preceda PP2 grip well in dry and wet and are actually a very quiet tyre.

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/sbub/cabinet/pp2_081.jpg

Anon
07-11-2008, 01:06 PM
Tyres have a much bigger contribution to stopping once than the size of the brakes unless they are very inadequate.

The point of the example is that if the same logic was applied to the car, the Magna is not safe as it wouldn't be able to stop/avoid an accident as well as an Evo.

I'm not debating that tyres help you stop.

dainese
07-11-2008, 01:06 PM
i wouldnt say it if i wasnt serious mate, i dont like throwing money away, but i did throw away 4 maxxis tyres with only 5000km on them

what happened, i don't know your experience.

dainese
07-11-2008, 01:08 PM
If you have issues about tyres, just shell out for the expensive ones. That's what I did with my EVO - Michelin Pilot Preceda PP2 grip well in dry and wet and are actually a very quiet tyre.

http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/sbub/cabinet/pp2_081.jpg

beautiful...

18"? 370 a corner?

Disciple
07-11-2008, 01:13 PM
245/40/18 - got them for $400 a corner, were priced at $410 a corner. Getting new rims at the end of this month, if these tyres don't fit due to offset issues, I'll be getting some new tyres - not sure what ones yet, but something that's for sure is they'll be 255/35/18 - 255, on an EVO! Got grip? :P

Anon
08-11-2008, 08:41 AM
Ecsta KU31 SPTs on.

Initial impressions are good but the have hardly scrubbed in.

I like the 'ECSTA' imprinted in the tread that leaves ECSTA stamped on the wet road and dirt. I'd buy them for this alone....oh wait...that novelty has just worn off.

opilot87
08-11-2008, 01:46 PM
Ecsta KU31 SPTs on.

Initial impressions are good but the have hardly scrubbed in.

I like the 'ECSTA' imprinted in the tread that leaves ECSTA stamped on the wet road and dirt. I'd buy them for this alone....oh wait...that novelty has just worn off.

Cool, I am looking at getting those, though I just also bought two tyres, I think a model down, KU25. Will see how they go, get fitted on Wednesday.

About the 'preferably not oval' tyres, I was ringing around for some tyres, asked for a price on some michelins, and I was replied with a ridiculously cheap price. Obviosuly wrong, I said 'for the Michelins???" and he said 'ahh, no, they are the triangles'. After some confusion ended up the tyre brand was actually called 'Triangle'. Then he said 'so what time would you like to book that in' :nuts:

Ollie

vrxbeachboy
08-11-2008, 05:57 PM
Ive got Kuhmo Ecsta SPT's on mine at the moment. They came with the car when I bought it but they have been brilliant.

Have been gripping the road like nuthin else and make braking traction a hard thing to do.

But seeing though I didn't originally buy them have no idea how much they cost and from the looks of the Kuhmo site they are the top of the range in go fast kuhmo tyres.

I got them for $130 a tyre Most places wont do much less than $150 a tire.
You just have to know where to go and shop around.
:-) They are a great tire thats for sure.
Dont skimp with tyres it can cost a lot if you loose control without expecting it.

codapane
09-11-2008, 04:21 AM
Maxxis are a great tyre for what they are and they not a pricey as others and they grip and wear well.

being that Perry is from the middle of nowhere nsw (orange the big apple) lol i will take his would on this