View Full Version : Brake Shudder KS Verada
leonbray
22-11-2008, 09:54 AM
Verada developed a shudder in the brakes under light brake pressure. It does no shudder under heavy7 pressure
Replaced rotors and pads and the shudder was still there. The brakes had been installed by a brake specialist - who has since retired.
It was due for 200,000 service so we highlighted the shudder. Dealer (My Gravatt brisbane) said that the rotors (with under 500km on them) needed machining. Dealer machined the brakes, charged me $50 and returned the car with the brakes still shuddering. (They ran for cover when I rang them back and it got worse when the radiator hose they had forgotton to tighten let go)
Do KS Verada have a sliding calipers? Could the caliper pins be worn or need lubricating?
I'd appreciate any guidance before I take this back up with the dealer
Mrmacomouto
22-11-2008, 10:54 AM
I had the same problem, get your steering boot/linkages checked out.
1986semagna
22-11-2008, 11:02 AM
Your Lower control arm bushes could need replacing
And yes they do have sliding calipers they could just need lubricating.
MadMax
22-11-2008, 04:33 PM
Could be a tyre problem - swap back to front and see if that helps. Out of balance tyre perhaps, or a bulge starting?
If not, check for play in steering components and tyre balance.
leonbray
22-11-2008, 06:37 PM
Could be a tyre problem - swap back to front and see if that helps. Out of balance tyre perhaps, or a bulge starting?
If not, check for play in steering components and tyre balance.
Had it aligned and balanced about 4 weeks ago - they didn't pick up any problems with the front end
Problem was there before alignment and after alignment
ot sure if they rotated tyres
MadMax
23-11-2008, 07:49 AM
OK - well, if they said everything is OK then why the shudder?
Get under the car YOURSELF and check everything! Jack it up, spin the tyres and see if you have an out of round problem, or a sideways movement of the tread. Check for uneven brake drag, etc. Check that there is no problems with the drive shafts - split boots, etc.
Mechanics usually DON'T look for problems, they just do the job at hand like an alignment with eyes closed - why should they? It's not their car! Machining near new rotors is a good example of their couldn't-care-less approach.
PS check wheel nut torque - uneven tension can warp a rotor.
Mrmacomouto
23-11-2008, 10:52 AM
jack car up and try shake the wheel, I could move mine heaps because my steering joints were ruieend
MerCuryRisIng
23-11-2008, 02:31 PM
This happens to me on the left hand side front side of mine at times.
I've just put it down to the lower control arm not being connected right... (the bolt has popped off somewhere and ruined the thread)
Madmagna
23-11-2008, 03:00 PM
Ok, V6 or 4Cyl, ABS or No ABS, all this makes a big difference
Forget wheel balance, will not cause this only under braking.
Forget rack boots, these do not anything more than keep dirt out of the inner rod ends and rack bushes. If you rack is dodgy it can cause this but will be more severe at higher speed and braking.
Did they check the front end when they did the allignment, most 19yr olds that work at tyre places would not konw a ball joint from a friggin tree.
Poss causes
If ABS model, the caliper pins may have never been cleaned and greased, this is very common and they wear. They may have used the wrong grease on them too and the grease goes off and goes hard.
Not warped or glazed rotors as they have been machined however did they put on new pads the second time around as using the old pads is useless.
Did they clean the hubs, did they torque the wheel nuts as Magna rotors have very thin hats on the rotors and are known to warp just from uneven wheel nut torque (rattle guns!!)
Bushes, the 4 and 6 cyl have a very different control arm and bush set up. They all do wear and this can very mch cause issues as well
1986semagna
25-11-2008, 06:33 PM
I have Replaced my v6 control arm Bush's thay are easy as pie and it fixed my brake shudder
with super pro bush's but all you need is a press then it's easy as pie
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