Hey guys,

personally i HATE the spoiler on my car, i also am not a huge fan of the TJ lights, i was looking through some cars i really like on amc and i came across SLAMD6's car

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/slamd6/106_0120.jpg

Now i noticed on his car the top half of the tail lights are painted the body colour, i reckon this looks cool as! And i think it would look even tougher in black.

I however have a few concerns, firstly, what would/did he do for indicators, im assuming probably the reversing lights?

Also, what parts would you need for this conversion, is it necessary to get a verada boot lid with the lights? Or can you just use a magna boot lid and the verada tails?

Trav

You would need a Pre TJ lid, but can be exec spec, just gotta cut out the holes from the metal to house the rada lights.

Dont know why you wanna make it look older though.

']You would need a Pre TJ lid, but can be exec spec, just gotta cut out the holes from the metal to house the rada lights.

Dont know why you wanna make it look older though.

I dont think the TJ lights look 'newer' even though they are from a newer model. But yeah, its just an idea, i want to get rid of my stupid spoiler lol

I dont think the TJ lights look 'newer' even though they are from a newer model. But yeah, its just an idea, i want to get rid of my stupid spoiler lol

Personally I would suggest blackout TJ lights, they look sweet. For an example check out vegas18's car.

Personally I would suggest blackout TJ lights, they look sweet. For an example check out vegas18's car.
sam had them on his old TJ sports they are my second prefered option

Dunno why people dont like spoilers. Love my VRX one, gunna keep it on. Every time I look the the rear view mirror its a big obstructing reminder "This isn't the poverty pack model".

"This isn't the poverty pack model".

veradas (besides GTV/i's) dont have em ;)

veradas (besides GTV/i's) dont have em ;)
haha

agreed though, without spoiler looks so much sleeker

i've always wanted rarda ones for mine but i just tinted mine

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=899619&postcount=51

veradas (besides GTV/i's) dont have em ;)

yea but veradas are veradas and vrx's still have a 'magna' badge on them

to the OP,

I'm halfway through a KE/KF rada lights conversion. You can pick up the tail lights and the extra reverse lights at a wrecker, and ask for the boot decor panel which has the cutouts for the reverse lights. From my knowledge you only have to unscrew the lower half of a pre-TJ boot, and install the new rada panel plus the lights. My only problem is wiring up the extra lights on the bootlid.

edit: I think Sexi was selling his tail lights, which have been painted similar to the picture you posted. http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61470

Mate i may be biased but get KJ tails and tint them it looks the best :D

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo202/timcollings/Image001.jpg

Note: i agree get rid of the wing i will be too when i pull my finger out lol

Hey guys,

personally i HATE the spoiler on my car, i also am not a huge fan of the TJ lights, i was looking through some cars i really like on amc and i came across SLAMD6's car

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/slamd6/106_0120.jpg

Now i noticed on his car the top half of the tail lights are painted the body colour, i reckon this looks cool as! And i think it would look even tougher in black.

I however have a few concerns, firstly, what would/did he do for indicators, im assuming probably the reversing lights?

Also, what parts would you need for this conversion, is it necessary to get a verada boot lid with the lights? Or can you just use a magna boot lid and the verada tails?

Trav

this is something i really want to do once i get a sedan.

as far as i can tell you need the lights on the boot to be KE/KF and the tail lights TE/TF i think.
and just use the reverse light on the TE/TF lights as indicator.

you will need the entire boot i think as the TJ and KE/KF boots are different shape

those tail lights are not, exe TF, they are KF

Ehhh don't do it dude... Keep with the TJ bootlid.

I did this to Detour's TE Magna, sprayed the indicators body colour and put the indicator bulb and wiring in the reverse light hole. I got a KE/KF bootlid garnish and installed that for reverse lights and a second set of driving lights. Looks pimp as.

Ehhh don't do it dude... Keep with the TJ bootlid.

I did this to Detour's TE Magna, sprayed the indicators body colour and put the indicator bulb and wiring in the reverse light hole. I got a KE/KF bootlid garnish and installed that for reverse lights and a second set of driving lights. Looks pimp as.

it looks pimp as but dont do it?

hey man
everything you need for the conversion is at centre road wreckers in springvale
when i was there last they still had the bootlid and the taillights were in the boot from a KF verada

it looks pimp as but dont do it?
What are you retarded? It looks pimp as because it was done to a TE. Don't do it because Liverpool owns a TJ and the TJ boot looks a LOT better than the TE/KE conversion.

How did you guys wire up the reverse lights on the bootlid? When I asked for the wiring harness thing at the wreckers but they said they don't sell them. Any advice?

to the OP,

I'm halfway through a KE/KF rada lights conversion. You can pick up the tail lights and the extra reverse lights at a wrecker, and ask for the boot decor panel which has the cutouts for the reverse lights. From my knowledge you only have to unscrew the lower half of a pre-TJ boot, and install the new rada panel plus the lights. My only problem is wiring up the extra lights on the bootlid.
You need more than the decor panel. Unless your handy with cutting holes in the physical boot lid, you'll need to an entire Verada boot, not just the "decor" panel so to speak. I mean I could be wrong with TE's, but TF's certainly don't have the cut outs in the boot for these lights.

They're pretty big holes anyway, you'd be able to see them as soon as you opened the boot if they were there on any magna.

hmmm, i just went outside to take a pic of my bootlid.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Image002-1.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Image001.jpg

not the holes you were referring to? :confused:

How did you guys wire up the reverse lights on the bootlid? When I asked for the wiring harness thing at the wreckers but they said they don't sell them. Any advice?

just get some decent wiring from dicksmith and splice into existing reverse light wiring and then wrap it in some cable organiser and then run it up the boot lid arms.

hmmm, i just went outside to take a pic of my bootlid.
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Image002-1.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Image001.jpg

not the holes you were referring to? :confused:

The holes are on the outer skin of the boot lid, not the inner ones you see in your photos. Its a lot easier to just go to the wreckers and get the Verada equivalent boot lid otherwise you'll need to cut holes in the outer skin and retro fit lights to it.

What are you retarded? It looks pimp as because it was done to a TE. Don't do it because Liverpool owns a TJ and the TJ boot looks a LOT better than the TE/KE conversion.

No, but your original post is not clear as you did not say anything about the TJ boot looking better

The holes are on the outer skin of the boot lid, not the inner ones you see in your photos. Its a lot easier to just go to the wreckers and get the Verada equivalent boot lid otherwise you'll need to cut holes in the outer skin and retro fit lights to it.

Or just get the lower peice of the verada boot lid, a lot cheaper :)

Below that crease that panel comes off.

How did you guys wire up the reverse lights on the bootlid? When I asked for the wiring harness thing at the wreckers but they said they don't sell them. Any advice?

Well find yourself another wrecker.

The plug in the boot is the same plug be it Verada or Magna so its a matter of getting the Verada bootlid loom and plugging it in....

The holes are on the outer skin of the boot lid, not the inner ones you see in your photos. Its a lot easier to just go to the wreckers and get the Verada equivalent boot lid otherwise you'll need to cut holes in the outer skin and retro fit lights to it.


like this? :) i just bought the lower panel that Life mentioned above http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Image0012.jpg

I just realised that the OP is going to have a problem with the boot key barrel in the wrong place. In the J series, the boot keyhole is in the garnish section (top strip, above the number plate) where as prior to that, its in the place as in the pic Cipher took.

from my knowledge if you do a TE/F/H to TJ boot lid conversion you need to take the new boot lid to a locksmith to get the lock changed... im not sure what kind of price you'de be looking at tho

I just realised that the OP is going to have a problem with the boot key barrel in the wrong place. In the J series, the boot keyhole is in the garnish section (top strip, above the number plate) where as prior to that, its in the place as in the pic Cipher took.
Its most likely getting painted anyways, I would recommend shaving it and getting a pull-ring manual boot release cable from a L/W series (They do not have a barrel).

I'm pretty sure you can just swap out the barrel instead of coding the new one.

Its most likely getting painted anyways, I would recommend shaving it and getting a pull-ring manual boot release cable from a L/W series (They do not have a barrel).

I'm pretty sure you can just swap out the barrel instead of coding the new one.

L/W don't have manual ones, they just don't have a key release. The boot is released either from the keyfob or the button in the glove box. The OP probably needs to patch the hole of the replacement panel.

If you get "another bootlid" find one in your color. Or else Say bye to to at least $130 to get it painted

I have not done it myself, but besides an angle grinder and maybe some tin snips there shouldnt be much more you need to "make" the holes so to say.
Saves putting a new lid on too, bit of stuffing around

L/W don't have manual ones, they just don't have a key release. The boot is released either from the keyfob or the button in the glove box. The OP probably needs to patch the hole of the replacement panel.

Check inside the ski hole on the drivers side, you'll see a pull ring. That is the manual boot release. It was introduced in the TL/KL when the keyhole was removed.

They definitely do have it.

Check inside the ski hole on the drivers side, you'll see a pull ring. That is the manual boot release. It was introduced in the TL/KL when the keyhole was removed.

They definitely do have it.

I'm pretty sure (correct me if I'm wrong) that they all have the emergency boot release behind the rear seats (accessible via the ski hole). I remember my old KS had it.

I'm pretty sure (correct me if I'm wrong) that they all have the emergency boot release behind the rear seats (accessible via the ski hole). I remember my old KS had it.

Where, I havn't seen one in mine........

Its most likely getting painted anyways, I would recommend shaving it and getting a pull-ring manual boot release cable from a L/W series (They do not have a barrel).

I'm pretty sure you can just swap out the barrel instead of coding the new one.

When I did TH -> KJ, I had to get the barrel recoded to my keys. You cant just use the existing one as the mounting of it is slightly different. I would say KJ and TJ are the same, as the barrel still mounts in the same place.

Check inside the ski hole on the drivers side, you'll see a pull ring. That is the manual boot release. It was introduced in the TL/KL when the keyhole was removed.

They definitely do have it.

i wouldnt call that one the manual one, the one in the glovebox on the other hand would be the manual one

When I did TH -> KJ, I had to get the barrel recoded to my keys. You cant just use the existing one as the mounting of it is slightly different. I would say KJ and TJ are the same, as the barrel still mounts in the same place.

I haven't looked yet, but if you are shaving the lock... do you still need to mount the barrel for any reason?

I can confirm that without a shadow of a doubt that if you make a conversion from TE or TF to KE\KF you will need to either buy a Verada boot or make the cutouts to accomodate the lights.

Thats whats prevented me from converting my TF to KF rear for the last 10 months or so.

I can confirm that without a shadow of a doubt that if you make a conversion from TE or TF to KE\KF you will need to either buy a Verada boot or make the cutouts to accomodate the lights.

Thats whats prevented me from converting my TF to KF rear for the last 10 months or so.

Why not just use the lower panel? Thats the only differnce in the TE-TH lids, the lower panel is different. The holes are still in the metal to mount the lighting and all.

Why not just use the lower panel? Thats the only differnce in the TE-TH lids, the lower panel is different. The holes are still in the metal to mount the lighting and all.
Yeah but he has to make cutouts:P
Nemesis - You should come around on saturday and meet my little friend mr angle grinder:P

Cutouts still need to be made and AFAIK the lower boot panel and boot was a single unit. It'd be good if it was seperate though.

I think that'd be a great idea TUFFY. Lol hopefully i'll have my HU and speakers by then so a bit of an audio install too :D

Cutouts still need to be made and AFAIK the lower boot panel and boot was a single unit. It'd be good if it was seperate though.

I think that'd be a great idea TUFFY. Lol hopefully i'll have my HU and speakers by then so a bit of an audio install too :D

It is a seperate unit, see this post. http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=952959&postcount=27

I have that panel. Thats not whats stopping me.

The actual boot lid itself does not have the holes drilled to accomodate for the lights. If you remove the panel and expose the boot lid you'll see that theres nowhere to secure the lights onto the boot lid.

The TE\TF lid is different from the KE\KF. Believe me I've tried.

I have that panel. Thats not whats stopping me.

The actual boot lid itself does not have the holes drilled to accomodate for the lights. If you remove the panel and expose the boot lid you'll see that theres nowhere to secure the lights onto the boot lid.

The TE\TF lid is different from the KE\KF. Believe me I've tried.

Oh thats easy, got a drill and some metal bits?

I have that panel. Thats not whats stopping me.

The actual boot lid itself does not have the holes drilled to accomodate for the lights. If you remove the panel and expose the boot lid you'll see that theres nowhere to secure the lights onto the boot lid.

The TE\TF lid is different from the KE\KF. Believe me I've tried.

i just went and had a look for myself. removed the original TE outer panel... and underneath is another smooth panel with no room for the reverse lights to fit :doubt:

pics:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Imawge002.jpg
the smooth hole-less panel below the outer TE panel

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Imagew003.jpg
the lights don't fit... they stick out a bit :P

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Image00w1.jpg

soooo how hard is it to cut a reverse-light-sized-hole in metal? what tools would i need?

i just went and had a look for myself. removed the original TE outer panel... and underneath is another smooth panel with no room for the reverse lights to fit :doubt:

pics:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Imawge002.jpg
the smooth hole-less panel below the outer TE panel

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Imagew003.jpg
the lights don't fit... they stick out a bit :P

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Image00w1.jpg

soooo how hard is it to cut a reverse-light-sized-hole in metal? what tools would i need?

angle grinder is your best bet

It is a seperate unit, see this post. http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=952959&postcount=27

It is a separate unit but wreckers will not separate them. You'll have to buy the whole boot lid. Just like when I went to buy a lever for an EA Falcons boot lock. Was able to just buy the lever on two occassions and on the third occassion I had to buy the whole assembly.

I supose it varies according to the wrecker you visit. I managed to purchase just the panel, but they would not supply me with the wiring. You might be better off purchasing a whole bootlid since we've discovered that the TE/TF (and TH?) bootlids have to get sections of metal cut out before the lights can be installed.

i just went and had a look for myself. removed the original TE outer panel... and underneath is another smooth panel with no room for the reverse lights to fit :doubt:

pics:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Imawge002.jpg
the smooth hole-less panel below the outer TE panel

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Imagew003.jpg
the lights don't fit... they stick out a bit :P

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd13/cipher747/Image00w1.jpg

soooo how hard is it to cut a reverse-light-sized-hole in metal? what tools would i need?

would it be safer to track down the right boot lid?

Angle grinder.
1) your panel will be in front of the holes with the new lights, no one will see the dodgey cutting
2) no-one is going to look BEHIND your bootlid.
3) its fun taking to your car with an angle grinder:bowrofl: trust me....its like you feel like your sinning :P

Hey guys,

personally i HATE the spoiler on my car, i also am not a huge fan of the TJ lights, i was looking through some cars i really like on amc and i came across SLAMD6's car

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h251/slamd6/106_0120.jpg

Now i noticed on his car the top half of the tail lights are painted the body colour, i reckon this looks cool as! And i think it would look even tougher in black.

I however have a few concerns, firstly, what would/did he do for indicators, im assuming probably the reversing lights?

Also, what parts would you need for this conversion, is it necessary to get a verada boot lid with the lights? Or can you just use a magna boot lid and the verada tails?

Trav

Hey guys,

If you want to do this and keep both indicators and reverse lights...

Instead of using the KF lights on the side, use a set of TH lights:

http://www.ozeparts.com.au/picture%5CN%5CEC%5CNEC8000NL.JPG

What you'll notice, is if you paint the upper half, you'll still have where the original reverse lights were - which you can now use as your indicators...

Something like this:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8933/samplefa7.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=samplefa7.jpg)

Thats a good idea, however be prepared to pay a pretty penny... you're looking at about $100 for TH tails. Maybe just use TE-TF tails with the smaller reverse light area?

Thats a good idea, however be prepared to pay a pretty penny... you're looking at about $100 for TH tails. Maybe just use TE-TF tails with the smaller reverse light area?

That could work too! :)

Thats a good idea, however be prepared to pay a pretty penny... you're looking at about $100 for TH tails. Maybe just use TE-TF tails with the smaller reverse light area?
Thats not the first time you've said TH tails are around $100. I don't get that, I've been to plenty of wreckers I could get a set from under $50 if I wanted to...

In theory the idea of the TF/TH tails with the KE/KF inserts looks good, but wait till you see it in practice, I have, looks like you've been in an accident and couldn't find the right parts for your car, they don't match up.

Thats not the first time you've said TH tails are around $100. I don't get that, I've been to plenty of wreckers I could get a set from under $50 if I wanted to...

In theory the idea of the TF/TH tails with the KE/KF inserts looks good, but wait till you see it in practice, I have, looks like you've been in an accident and couldn't find the right parts for your car, they don't match up.
If you can get them for 50 - Do it and sell them on, wreckers obviously don't know their value. TE-TF are $50, TH are 100+ (They look better therefore cost more), TJ+ are all over 150.

Wreckers in Sydney know what they are doing, they'll charge 120 for TH tails, and take them off before they go in the yard.

If you can get them for 50 - Do it and sell them on, wreckers obviously don't know their value.
Or maybe you don't lol The only reason they're apparently worth that much is because people like you will pay it lol The only 3rd gen lights I know of that are pricier are the KE-KH Verada ones because there's more to them. You just don't know where to go to get them at a sane price :P

I hope your not implying I buy something to sell on here at a higher price, that's very much not in the spirit of a car club.

Or maybe you don't lol The only reason they're apparently worth that much is because people like you will pay it lol The only 3rd gen lights I know of that are pricier are the KE-KH Verada ones because there's more to them. You just don't know where to go to get them at a sane price :P

I hope your not implying I buy something to sell on here at a higher price, that's very much not in the spirit of a car club.
Just my broke mentality. Anyways - I wouldn't pay that much :) I sold my TH tails and bought TW tails (w/ globes and harnesses) for $35. But not exactly in that order, car was without tails for a couple days.

Ask anybody here that has done a TH tail conversion about prices.

In order of least to most expensive:

TE-TF ($20-$40)
TH ($80-$100)
TJ,TL-TW,KE-KH ($80-$120)
TJ Altezza, TJ Blacked out ($150+)
KJ,KL-KW, TL-TW VRX ($250+)