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Elwyn
29-11-2008, 07:29 AM
OK, I have to confess I stuffed-up the Cheap-Garish-Ralliart-Steering-Wheel Mod - I just pulled SRS fuse(s) and attacked the wheel-changeover and now have the SRS lamp in Dash cluster permanently on.

(All my own foolishness, I wanted to listen to radio while I changed the wheel over - so had key on with airbag unplugged, didn't read the threads in here carefully enuf before starting the job).

I have a less-than-favourable view of my local Mitsy dealer - after they charged me to quote price of boot-release cable that I had already pulled-out for them.

Wondering if any members in NSW (esp in Hunter/Newcastle or Sydney) have been able to get the SRS light reset for a cheap cost, or no cost? I have read threads where dealers have tried to replace airbag modules etc. In my case, I'm confident that if they reset the fault code which has caused warning lamp, my problem will be solved...... I assume having key on with no bag in the steering wheel hub gave rise to a fault code.... if this can be reset (which I accept Dealers need to do?), then with all back together and airbag module connected I expect no fault will be found and warning light will go back to normal??

Hoping someone has had good experience with a Dealer who will see reason?

Lugo
29-11-2008, 07:55 AM
You'll need the diagnostics computer to hook up to the car to reset it. I did what you did, but fortunately for me a mate was doing a mechanics course at the time, so I took the car into his tafe where they had a diag machine :P

Mitsu told me $70 odd to fix it, literally takes 30 seconds. I'd ask a couple of local mechanics first who might have the machine before paying Mitsu to do it.

Your other option would be to change the SRS-ECU with one from the wreckers that hasn't been in a frontal collision (ie. Set the air bags off), that would probably work also, but its not usually what you do to fix an error code lol

MattyB
29-11-2008, 08:15 AM
I've got the same problem, just needs a reset.
Let us know how much you get quoted mate.

ryan2991
29-11-2008, 09:46 AM
Also have the same problem, it doesn't really bother me though lol

Elwyn
29-11-2008, 10:55 AM
Well,
We can either start an AMC/////We-Stuffed-Our-SRS-Light Division

OR

WE arrange a Group-Buy (or possibly a cruise) to some obliging Dealer for a bulk re-program SRS modules session.

:bowrofl: Just kidding - keep the intel coming in guys n gals..... if I get quotes that appeal, or we get someone who does cheap, I'll be sure to post it up (We have created a demand with our Ralliart wheel installs, now we just need someone to meet that demand in the marketplace!)

BTW: I live at Tamworth, with family closer to Dubbo.... I'm thinking a coastal/city dealer or mechanic might be aware of issue and know its such a quick job......

ryan2991
29-11-2008, 02:23 PM
Well,
We can either start an AMC/////We-Stuffed-Our-SRS-Light Division

OR

WE arrange a Group-Buy (or possibly a cruise) to some obliging Dealer for a bulk re-program SRS modules session.

:bowrofl: Just kidding - keep the intel coming in guys n gals..... if I get quotes that appeal, or we get someone who does cheap, I'll be sure to post it up (We have created a demand with our Ralliart wheel installs, now we just need someone to meet that demand in the marketplace!)

BTW: I live at Tamworth, with family closer to Dubbo.... I'm thinking a coastal/city dealer or mechanic might be aware of issue and know its such a quick job......

I like both ideas lol

Keep us posted if you do get a fix, if you go to Mitsubishi they will hook you up to the scan tool, thats 50 already

Lugo
29-11-2008, 02:25 PM
Well if there's enough of you, you might be able to afford a diag machine, iirc the one the tafe had I used is only about $2k :P Your best bet really is to find a local mechanic that deals with the diag machines, mitsu will charge you $70 round figures, I've asked before, and Gerard actually had to pay that up on his wagon when he stuffed it lol

So you know, its unroadworthy with the SRS light on, as its malfunctioning safety device. So if you get pulled over in the mean time, turn the car off lol

westside_t_s_d.
29-11-2008, 02:51 PM
go visit your local auto elec .....they also have the diagnostic machines aswell.

doddski
29-11-2008, 03:07 PM
if the SRS light is on.. in the event of an accident, your airbags wont deploy i hope you all realise...

that would prolly in turn, void your insurance as it would be seen as tampering with a safety device...
if it was my car, i would just pay the 70odd bucks or whatever it is, and go to mitsu and get them to sort the problem out. i hate dealerships too - but for a safety device like airbags, its 99.9% worth it...

thats just 2c on the matter...

Nemesis
29-11-2008, 03:17 PM
Or you could speak to someone who does mechanics at a tafe. Failing that you could call up a local tafe and ask them if they could do it for you.

TJ Sports
29-11-2008, 04:08 PM
cant u ask the place which does ur service? its a simple plug in and press a button. i thought most mitsu dealers would do it for free? otherwise get it done at ur next service they should throw it in as they have to plug in the computer anyway.

MattyB
29-11-2008, 06:08 PM
I like to live on the edge.. It's been about 3 months lol.
Knew it's a safety issue just lazy, guess this thread has just motivated me...

Elwyn
29-11-2008, 07:05 PM
Hmmm - a few responses here got me thinking/worrying.... I just thought that by having key in with bag disconnected led to a fault being logged and that once all reconnected the fault code remained. Presence of fault code leads to dash light lit, indicating need for check.

I just assumed SRS would activate (or attempt to) in case of accident requiring bag deployment. I have skim-read the Factory manual SRS chapter, and it seems to say lots of SRS fault codes should reset if the poor connection etc is rectified.

I'm still not convinced that the dash light being on means my SRS is effectively disabled and won't protect me, but I am a bit more concerned that putting steering wheel back together hasn't allowed fault code to reset and light to behave as normal.

Also - reading the troubleshooting flowcharts, I can see why some dealers would try to sell an SRS ECU or Bag-module, it does give that impression. And it doesn't offer a "clear code and see what happens" option.

However, my plan will still be to request that they connect the MUT-thingy (or equivalent) then clear the SRS error code and see if it recurrs - which I am fairly confident won't happen. I think. -ish. Maybe. :doubt:

MitchellO
29-11-2008, 09:30 PM
Easy solution to this for those who haven't changed their wheels yet is to disconnect the battery completely during the swap over, and not reconnecting it until everything is back in place.

Won't help the OP but might help others from making the mistake ;)

Flava
29-11-2008, 10:03 PM
All the other fault codes are reset when you disconnect the battery and leave disconnected for a bit, why not this one? has it been tried?

Lugo
29-11-2008, 10:09 PM
All the other fault codes are reset when you disconnect the battery and leave disconnected for a bit, why not this one? has it been tried?
Fault codes won't reset just by removing the battery. In theory it should work, but it just doesn't, I tried everything you could think of, and all that would fix mine was clearing the SRS-ECU error log with a Diag Machine.

[TUFFTR]
30-11-2008, 10:43 AM
Fault codes won't reset just by removing the battery. In theory it should work, but it just doesn't, I tried everything you could think of, and all that would fix mine was clearing the SRS-ECU error log with a Diag Machine.
Correct!
Fault codes will stay logged on the ECU until they are cleared with the diagnostics machine.
On most of the merc trucks, just disconnecting the battery logs its own fault code! (undervoltage to all the ECU's)

Nemesis
30-11-2008, 11:40 AM
The scantool I used to clear Lugo's fault code was an Hanatech Ultrascan 4000.

http://www.pjvic.com.au/shop/scditem.asp?ProdID=55

And before you ask, I don't have access to it now unfortunately!

MattyB
30-11-2008, 09:48 PM
Let's buy one, just get everyone to put in $5 each and make it the communal AMC scanner lol

Only costs like $4k....

BIGredFREAK
01-12-2008, 03:24 PM
hey guys,

not much of a car person but i had to change my battery today, it died on me.

i dont think i did anything wrong but i now have the srs light on in my dash.

just because i changed the battery is this a cause for the light to come on?

also my stock radio just has a 1 on it, how do i fix it?

thanks guys.

Gas_Hed
01-12-2008, 04:15 PM
My SRS light used to stay on on my old KE after some fiddling...

Solution: Remove cluster and take out the bulb.....solved.

maggie3.5
01-12-2008, 04:18 PM
hey guys,

not much of a car person but i had to change my battery today, it died on me.

i dont think i did anything wrong but i now have the srs light on in my dash.

just because i changed the battery is this a cause for the light to come on?

also my stock radio just has a 1 on it, how do i fix it?

thanks guys.


Weird,the same thing has happened to me.I changed over the wheel no probs ,then months later,wife has flat battery,gets jump started and now srs light is on...what the....????

MitchellO
01-12-2008, 04:32 PM
also my stock radio just has a 1 on it, how do i fix it?

It will be waiting for a security code, should be in the manual.

Elwyn
01-12-2008, 05:07 PM
Dunno how it might be involved in a dead battery - but check the Blinkers fuse (think its No: 4), as it relates to SRS as well.

While towing a trailer once, I lost blinkers after a creek crossing and the SRS light on dash cluster lit until blinker fuse was replaced. SRS wiring looms also involve Fuse No:13 I think.

If your blinkers are working with new battery - ignore all this.

Elwyn
01-12-2008, 05:51 PM
Apologies about double-post - now deleted - have been having an absolute battle here with Satellite broadband being slow or something....... mail got duplicated as well as this post.

Please carry on as you were!

White
01-12-2008, 06:15 PM
Weird,the same thing has happened to me.I changed over the wheel no probs ,then months later,wife has flat battery,gets jump started and now srs light is on...what the....????

i may be abvle to help you as your in sa. i might be able to borrow works scanner. see what the prob is.



most srs faults are dab (drivers air bag) circuit resistance high. most comon cause for this is the clock spring.

Nemesis
01-12-2008, 06:39 PM
the problem is that the car was switched on when the steering wheel was off and the air bag disconnected, causing the srs computer to log an open circuit and thus bring up the srs warning light.

You just need to clear dtcs from memory.

Elwyn
02-12-2008, 05:41 PM
Okies
- well 2 quick calls while on my way to Work this arvo:
- Mitsi Dealer in Tamworth wants $60- and
- also called UltraTune, they want $60- as well. (have been wondering about Ultratune for next scheduled Service).
I'll try a few other mechanics and see how I go.

White
02-12-2008, 06:09 PM
we would do it for next to nothing/free (just to check what the fault is with scanner).

magna00
02-12-2008, 06:34 PM
we would do it for next to nothing/free (just to check what the fault is with scanner).

Read, he is in Toowoomba

Thats like 3000k from SA

Elwyn
02-12-2008, 07:29 PM
LOL - I'm actually in Tamworth - ya know, Country Music Capital - where we have BOTH kinds of music (unfortunately ;) )

I'll try a few more local businesses, plus if I have trip to Syd soon I might sound-out some places there - that was the point of my original post - if anyone knew of a business that would do it for reasonable price, I'd be happier.

If it really is just a 30sec job (and I hope it is), I'd rather not pay the equivalent of 3/4hour's labour. OK, I'm cheap -I've admitted it!!

Elwyn
05-12-2008, 10:57 AM
Well, Bit of an Update:

Local Auto Trans specialists I've used access my SRS problemo with thier scanner..... there were 2 faults logged, which they cleared.

However Fault Code "21" came back to haunt me... the guys didn't notice what the other code was.

According to the factory Workshop Manuals - linked via the Sticky Thread in Tech Torque forum - "21" relates to a short in the Drivers Bag part of the system. The manual mentions that "shorting pins" in the airbag connector are there to prevent accidental mis-fire when bag out of car. So, I'm hoping that if I pull the bag module out again and fiddle a bit - make sure that connector is firmly attached etc, maybe these "shorting pins" will retract as they are meant to and enable fault "21" to be cleared for good.

Does anyone else have this experience, or have more insight into the issue?

I'm certain that clock-spring wasn't disturbed etc, and am pinning my hopes on the wiring connector......

Gerard
05-12-2008, 11:36 AM
i've got an elm32 data scanner if that helps any of you guys

hy_boi
04-01-2009, 06:57 PM
My SRS light came on tonight as I went over a rough bit of road, and then the light flicked on, so I'll take it into work tomorrow to see what they say.