Has anyone here put in the KH instument cluster into the TH or TF magna. I am talking about the one that lights up when the ignition is switched on.

Was looking at getting one that is available but do not want to pop it in if it will go up in smoke

I have looked at the back and all seems the same from memory but then again did not have the TF one there handy to directly compare

Has anyone here put in the KH instument cluster into the TH or TF magna. I am talking about the one that lights up when the ignition is switched on.

Was looking at getting one that is available but do not want to pop it in if it will go up in smoke

I have looked at the back and all seems the same from memory but then again did not have the TF one there handy to directly compare

As far as I can tell it cant be done because they have a digital ODO and trip meter in them.....but I could be very very wrong.

I grabbed a KJ1 cluster at blacktown picknpay, wouldnt match up to the TH magna there, about 4 pins too short on the harness. I'm pretty sure KJ1 was the same as KH.

Possible (as the verada is using the same equipment mechanically), but would require some rewiring to use the extended harness.

I really want to do this mod to my TL. I think it has a much better chance of succeeding on later Magnas that have the digital odo and trip comp combined in the cluster, the same way the later Veradas do.

If anyone has/finds a KJ SII or later cluster let me know ;)

I think it has a much better chance of succeeding on later Magnas that have the digital odo and trip comp combined in the cluster, the same way the later Veradas do.
Yeah was going to say something along these lines.

As long as the magna you are putting it in has a digital odometer. Otherwise I can see it being an expensive process if it doesn't.

I do not think the odometer will be much of an issue as it still determines distance off the speedo drive unit which in both cases is an electronic pulse If it was a secon gen with a cable driven speedo then yes this would be an issue.

Might just have to get a look at the 2 side by side and have a look. I an sure the TH cluster fits into the TF, ie not verada.

I do not think the odometer will be much of an issue as it still determines distance off the speedo drive unit which in both cases is an electronic pulse If it was a secon gen with a cable driven speedo then yes this would be an issue.

Might just have to get a look at the 2 side by side and have a look. I an sure the TH cluster fits into the TF, ie not verada.
I though the TF was cable driven, my mistake.

then you shouldn't have too much of an issue. Only thing is wiring up the actually illumination which shouldn't be hard. Dunno if this will be an issue either but check the brightness adjuster for the KH cluster, might be different to the magna one.

Ask Ford Fella, he put the cluster from my old KJ into a TF.

but didn't he use the whole engine harness for it? cos he swapped from the auto to the v6 from your car..

and i have your passenger side air bag... mwahahahaha...

ahem..

i thought that the same series/spec would change over, example KF-TF, KJ-TJ (but all kj verada's have tiptronic, which might be different pins to show the shift pattern in the cluster)


also does anyone know if the km's is 'stored' on the cluster or in the ecu?? sounds silly i know.. but a mate has a KF with only 60 000km's on it.. but the cluster had a peice of steel go through it - don't ask... he doesn't want to loose his fantabulously low km's..

also does anyone know if the km's is 'stored' on the cluster or in the ecu?? sounds silly i know.. but a mate has a KF with only 60 000km's on it.. but the cluster had a peice of steel go through it - don't ask... he doesn't want to loose his fantabulously low km's..

I believe the klms are stored on the cluster itself. Once your mate gets a new cluster, he can have the klms set by a Mitsubishi Dealer.

I've been told it's part of the cluster. And being a KF it's mechanical anyway so it couldn't be decided by the ECU.

I grabbed a KJ1 cluster at blacktown picknpay, wouldnt match up to the TH magna there, about 4 pins too short on the harness. I'm pretty sure KJ1 was the same as KH.
That didn't work because you tried to fit a Tippy cluster to a non-tippy car, they have different connections.

As far as I know the KH cluster hooks up the same as the TE-TJ1 cluster, though I've not one to check yet, should get back onto my contact who had one in his shed and find out :P

The person who purchased MitchellO's car is a mate of mine so next time he comes over might ask him if he will let me take out the cluster and test the plugs for comparison to the TF

If anyone tries this, please be sure to post up

The person who purchased MitchellO's car is a mate of mine so next time he comes over might ask him if he will let me take out the cluster and test the plugs for comparison to the TF

You're gonna start carving up my beautiful KH :cry:

Sure am mate, already have the parras and the fog lights mwahahaha (well I will when I pop over one night and take em lol)

Nah mate, your old car is getting TLC, had had full service, new engine mount etc and is running sweet as now.

Awesome, really glad to here it went to a good home :D

hey mal, i am sure one of the member with a kj should help you out by pulling one of thei clusters out and checking, i want to know it too, for mine.

KJ has a Tippy Gearbox, so according to a prior post - Tippy Cluster won't go into a non-Tippy car/loom. I have a fairly early KJ Series one, it has the 4-speed Tiptronic.

So what is needed is a KH cluster - if I've read this thread correctly?

KJ has a Tippy Gearbox, so according to a prior post - Tippy Cluster won't go into a non-Tippy car/loom. I have a fairly early KJ Series one, it has the 4-speed Tiptronic.

So what is needed is a KH cluster - if I've read this thread correctly?

For a non-tippy car I'd expect so, for a tippy car you'd be pretty much guaranteed to need a KJ Series 1 cluster (or S2 if you have a 5-speed tippy).

Hurry up and try it Mal, I want to know if I should be pursuing this!! :D I'm tempted to ask my uncle/aunt if I can remove their KL cluster to try in my car, but I'm not sure they will let me :P

When Tim and I pulled the cluster from a KJ and wanted to fit it to a TJ we found the plugs were different shapes altogether... Not sure if its the same as a KH or something...

Slightly OT but I picked up a trip computer today out of a TJ that I was going to put in my TF (I also got the instrument surround with the mode button because I got both for $20) so would it be a simple swap over with the current one?

When Tim and I pulled the cluster from a KJ and wanted to fit it to a TJ we found the plugs were different shapes altogether... Not sure if its the same as a KH or something...

Was the TJ tiptronic? I'm thinking either that or the fact that the TJ S1 had mech odo and KJ S1 had a digital one would cause issues too.

Not sure they were both about the only things left in the TJ. I put it into the car just before but when I press the mode button nothing happens, but when I press the up button it scrolls through all the functions but I can't get it to set anything

I wouldn't think so unfortunately. There are sensors/wiring which detect fuel consumption/distance and what not in a TJ that are not found in a TF. The Mode button is used to scroll through the trip computer functions and the up/down buttons are used to select the speed for the speed alert alarm.

Yeah I figured it wouldn't work about 10 minutes ago when I went for a drive to maccas and it started making sparking noises before thick white smoke started pouring out of the buttons.

Worth a try though.

lol Geez your car really wanted to send a message that it wouldn't work.

hey mal in response mate it wont work me and greg (sirkhxi) tried it but the plugs were different.:D

What combo of cluster/car?

TF exec and KH cluster.

Yup, Is the KH cluster I am trying, not sure where the discussion of TJ came from in the first place.

When Greg pluged it up, did any of it work or was just toatlly dead.

This being the case, I may look at getting the plugs and do some wiring mods which everyone knows I love doing -- not

IF I can get my hands on a second hand one, will get it in and if any mods are needed I will make sure I post up the wiring mods that were needed

Now, has anyone got a spare KH cluster or 3 lying around.......

Had a thought earlier (!) and did a bit of digging in the workshop manual. In the TJ/KJ S1 section of the circuit diagrams there are two "combination meters" listed (the proper name for the speedo/tacho/etc.): one standard meter (Magna) and one high-contrast meter (Verada).

In the TL/KL section only one is listed, no mention of separate one for Veradas/Magnas.

you could always just swap the dials and cover over.

you could always just swap the dials and cover over.

The problem with this is that the KH has a cool effect when you hit the key, it is all black and then lights up in stages.

Bit of a rice factor but lets fact it, all magna's have a rice factor somewhere

Was the TJ tiptronic? I'm thinking either that or the fact that the TJ S1 had mech odo and KJ S1 had a digital one would cause issues too.
Both were tiptronic, 4 speed.