Was driving home from JB Hi-Fi today when i went to change from 2nd to 3rd at around 5,000 rpm. Just as the shifter was about to reach the neutral gate i felt it go really loose in my hand. Car is now stuck in 2nd gear and will not move into any other gear. The shifter very loosely moves front to rear only, not side to side.

Had a look at the shifter cables under the centre console but couldn't find any issues. Traced the shifter cables back through the firewall into the engine bay until i came across something. Directly below the lower air intake resonator i could see something moving around loosely as i had a friend move the shifter back and forth.

Below is a random pic (not a 3rd Gen) that i found on the net. Circled is what i see moving around slightly as the shifter inside the car is moved back and forth:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/Verada/gearboxproblem01.jpg

What is this part called and how do i try and fix it? If i can't do it by tomorrow i gotta take the car back to the workshop for them to have a look at.

looks like part of the clutch assembly to me?

Might not be related, but do you have a short shifter? When I had a short shifter on my Ralliart it caused nothing but problems...

Might not be related, but do you have a short shifter? When I had a short shifter on my Ralliart it caused nothing but problems...
Sounds like Mohit needs to bugger off his short shifter then :P

Your having nothing but bad luck with this now man :(

LOL, I just pulled out a shifter cable set today. That's the horizontal movement cable. If it's loose or BROKEN (!!) then it'll need tightening/replacing. You have to lift the centre console to get access to the tighteners. it may not be this however. I'd feel the cables by slightly bending them all the way from the shifter to firewall then from firewall to shift mech. If it's got a soft spot, I'd say it was broken. Dunno if you can buy just one or if you need to get both.

You are missing the rubber bush, washer that sits on top and the split pin that stops it falling apart.
The bit that you cirlced is how the assembly should look like.
Gerry.

You are missing the rubber bush, washer that sits on top and the split pin that stops it falling apart.
The bit that you cirlced is how the assembly should look like.
Gerry.
That pic he posted isn't of his car. He said it's just some random pic he found on the internet.

That pic he posted isn't of his car. He said it's just some random pic he found on the internet.

Yeah i think thats why he said " The bit that you cirlced is how the assembly should look like"

Sounds like your Gear linkage as given in the ghost, they arent cheap from mitsi either so ive heard....

Spoke to my mechanic via email after this happened, here's what he said:


Looks like the shifter cable bush has gone missing. Normally there is a bush sitting in the middle and is retained by a washer and an R-clip or a cotter pin. Not sure why the clip or pin has failed, we may have to put in a stronger SS or high tensile one. Should be easy enough to replace the bush with a new one as well as a washer and clip. Check to see if you have a spare bush in the other set of shifter cables first. I will organize the SS or high tensile clip on Monday.
I have a spare set of shifter cables sitting in my garage which i acquired during my manual conversion hunt. The cables are prolly not usable but tomorrow i'll compare the bushes on them to those that are on my car. Will have to remove the air intake piping and MAF assembly to gain better access to the gearbox in the car.

Spoke to my mechanic via email after this happened, here's what he said:


I have a spare set of shifter cables sitting in my garage which i acquired during my manual conversion hunt. The cables are prolly not usable but tomorrow i'll compare the bushes on them to those that are on my car. Will have to remove the air intake piping and MAF assembly to gain better access to the gearbox in the car.

Depending on the size and nature of the bush they may be able to craft one up using a standard style rubber suspension bush, and just carve it to fit as well.

Depending on the size and nature of the bush they may be able to craft one up using a standard style rubber suspension bush, and just carve it to fit as well.
Easily...
Sorry to hear Mohit you are having some terrible luck lately :(
Sounds like what everyone else is saying. If not, a shifter cable itself isnt too hard to replace itself.

Took these pics today (yes they are of my car). The top shift cable linkage (out of focus) seems ok but the lower one (the one i'm pointing to) has about 5mm of play in the washers:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/Verada/gearboxproblem02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/Verada/gearboxproblem03.jpg

Could this cause the gearbox to get stuck in a particular gear? One thing i did notice was the the 2nd to 3rd shifts were getting less notchy (i have a short shifter) before the gearbox got stuck in 2nd. I'd say maybe the last three to four 2nd to 3rd shifts progressively got smoother before the gearbox finally got stuck in gear.

Its quite possible that it's the wrong sized washer,number of ways it could have happened, one being when they were doing the conversion someone may have lost the original and replaced it with an undersized one.Was just a matter of time before it gave in. Or it's missing an extra washer.

I'm no expert and I don't claim to be, I'm just going by what I can see in the photos.

In simple terms....no!!!

It is not the clutch either for the person who posted up the highly technical post.....

5mm in a gear selector cable will make 3 fifths of bugger all difference aside form making your gear stick feel looser than a grey street worker.... I have seen these with the bushed missing and in regards to high tensile pins etc what a load of rubbish, all the split pin does is hold the washer and bush on. There is no force on the split pin at all due to the way the cable is built, the part that attaches to the selector is actually a solid shaft that works its way back into the cable part way to stop it bending when shifting.

Now to the part of the stuck in second gear, it may be a problem with the box itself, if the box in its past life has not had a very happy owner (a lot of people have a bad habbit of resting their hand on the gear stick and this badly wears the selectors inside the box) this can cause the detents to pop out and actually jam the selector from coming back onto it's hub. To check, remove both cables and see if you can pop the selectors back into neutral by hand, these should not take a lot of force to move.

If you want, depending where you are, I am more than happy to pop over and have a look for you mate, will not be hard to diagnose.

Thanks for the offer Mal but it's prolly too late now lol
I've got the car booked in for tomorrow with the mechanic so let's see what happens

In simple terms....no!!!

It is not the clutch either for the person who posted up the highly technical post.....

5mm in a gear selector cable will make 3 fifths of bugger all difference aside form making your gear stick feel looser than a grey street worker.... I have seen these with the bushed missing and in regards to high tensile pins etc what a load of rubbish, all the split pin does is hold the washer and bush on. There is no force on the split pin at all due to the way the cable is built, the part that attaches to the selector is actually a solid shaft that works its way back into the cable part way to stop it bending when shifting.

Now to the part of the stuck in second gear, it may be a problem with the box itself, if the box in its past life has not had a very happy owner (a lot of people have a bad habbit of resting their hand on the gear stick and this badly wears the selectors inside the box) this can cause the detents to pop out and actually jam the selector from coming back onto it's hub. To check, remove both cables and see if you can pop the selectors back into neutral by hand, these should not take a lot of force to move.

If you want, depending where you are, I am more than happy to pop over and have a look for you mate, will not be hard to diagnose.


Was just going to say that, if you cannot move it with your hand, you have a big problem
best of Luck mate

Just an observation have a look where his thumb is. Theres a piece there with a hole and another little more further up. I wonder if those to pieces have seperated from each other. The bush and washers are still intact the clearence between the two dont look like it will impact on anything. Problem seems obvious to me its elsewhere.

Regards

Just spoke to the mechanic
One of the shifter cables have snapped
New pair from Mitsu cost $496
I have a 2nd set which are not in the best condition but might have to use them until i can get a good set from a wrecker
If anyone has any leads on these please let me know!

5mm in a gear selector cable will make 3 fifths of bugger all difference aside form making your gear stick feel looser than a grey street worker.... I have seen these with the bushed missing

In my ET turbo it was hard to get into reverse, and the gear stick felt 'loose'

Eventually had a look - that bush was missing alltogether...

Had a new one CNC'd out of brass. Never felt anything that tight before lol

Getting the mechanic to put in the 2nd set i have just to make sure it is the cables and nothing else
If it is the cables will get a set that i've tracked down from a wrecker and get that put it

Getting the mechanic to put in the 2nd set i have just to make sure it is the cables and nothing else
If it is the cables will get a set that i've tracked down from a wrecker and get that put it


just get some spray lube and give em a good oiling.... if they move free enough and no catching theey will be fine for a good while.

damn 500 bucks for some cables! WOW!:rant:

Mechanic put 2nd set of cables in and the shifter is working from inside the car now :)
He said it's still a little hard to shift but i'm thinking this could just be due to the short shifter?
Bought a set of cables from Imlachs for $175
Should get the car back tomorrow

After conversing with magna00 i wonder if i should toss the short shifter and replace it with the original shifter
The short shifter prolly added to the cable snapping due to the harsher shifts you have to do with it
And once the blower is back on i don't really want to risk it again when the car is making more power

After conversing with magna00 i wonder if i should toss the short shifter and replace it with the original shifter
The short shifter prolly added to the cable snapping due to the harsher shifts you have to do with it
And once the blower is back on i don't really want to risk it again when the car is making more power

Plenty of people are using short shifters in their cars, and with brand new cables I say you'll be sweet.

Plenty of people are using short shifters in their cars, and with brand new cables I say you'll be sweet.
Cables aren't brand new...they cost $496
Mine are from a wrecker that are in good condition...$175

Cables aren't brand new...they cost $496
Mine are from a wrecker that are in good condition...$175

Ahh ok, well if they are in good condition I see no problem.

Cables aren't brand new...they cost $496
Mine are from a wrecker that are in good condition...$175

Again, If I find a manual magna at the wreckers (3 or 3.5L) I will let you know, Just in case your after another set (always good to have spares)

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Again, If I find a manual magna at the wreckers (3 or 3.5L) I will let you know, Just in case your after another set (always good to have spares)
Thanks mate that would be good however i'm not sure if the 3.0L and 3.5L shifter cables are the same?

Thanks mate that would be good however i'm not sure if the 3.0L and 3.5L shifter cables are the same?
Dont see why they would be, Same GB bolts up in essence

Like I said, when I put my short shifter on my Ralliart I had nothing but problems. Gears would crunch, the throw of the stick wasn't comfortable, and at the drags the car completely locked me out of any gear - no idea why, never found out. Once everything cooled down it went back into gear, but was notchy as hell until I removed the short shifter. More trouble than they're worth IMO.

Like I said, when I put my short shifter on my Ralliart I had nothing but problems. Gears would crunch, the throw of the stick wasn't comfortable, and at the drags the car completely locked me out of any gear - no idea why, never found out. Once everything cooled down it went back into gear, but was notchy as hell until I removed the short shifter. More trouble than they're worth IMO.
after playoing around with mohits shifter just in the car park, im glad i didnt get one

Wow, shifter cables, that is very strange as is not a common thing on these cars

Could have been how they were stored perhaps, they do not like getting bent that is for sure

Glad the box has a clean bill mate

More trouble than they're worth IMO.
Yeep that's why i'm getting my mechanic to put the original shifter back in tomorrow when the cables go in.





after playoing around with mohits shifter just in the car park, im glad i didnt get one
Should have charged you more to play around with my shifter in the car park :P





Wow, shifter cables, that is very strange as is not a common thing on these cars

Could have been how they were stored perhaps, they do not like getting bent that is for sure
Think you're onto something Mal. The gearbox in my car was sent down to me from QLD. The shifter cables were packed/coiled around the gearbox tightly for transit. I reckon that, coupled with the age of the cables prolly did it.

ok well im not gettin one then. Thanks for the warnings guys :)

ok well im not gettin one then. Thanks for the warnings guys :)
In my case i'm just guessing it was the short shifter. I won't know for sure until i drive with the standard shifter for a while. But i would be inclined to think it was the short shifter based on other people's experiences.

where did you get your short shifter from?

where did you get your short shifter from?
Came with the gearbox i bought off a forum member.

If you thought my luck couldn't get any worse then you're sadly mistaken and you need to read on.

Mechanic put the new (to me) shifter cables and original shifter back in the car. Took it for a test drive, all good. Picked the car up a couple of hours ago but as i started driving back the dreaded power loss had returned. Felt like it was in limp home mode again. Turned the car off and back on immediately, power was back straight away but could hear hissing noise from engine bay again.

Took the car back to my mechanic. He checked for vacuum leaks but all good. Took it for a test drive and power loss was back. Plugged in the diagnostics computer and it threw up some error about air inlet temp sensor and air flow meter. So the car remains at the mechanic to get the issue fixed tomorrow. Mechanic thinks it might be something simple that may have been knocked out/about when the shifter cables were installed. He dropped me back home in his 1978 Porsche 911 Turbo...man that thing boogies. Really makes me miss my boost!

Danggg, i hope you get it all sorted out soon, worst time of year for this to be happening too.

If you thought my luck couldn't get any worse then you're sadly mistaken and you need to read on.

Mechanic put the new (to me) shifter cables and original shifter back in the car. Took it for a test drive, all good. Picked the car up a couple of hours ago but as i started driving back the dreaded power loss had returned. Felt like it was in limp home mode again. Turned the car off and back on immediately, power was back straight away but could hear hissing noise from engine bay again.

Took the car back to my mechanic. He checked for vacuum leaks but all good. Took it for a test drive and power loss was back. Plugged in the diagnostics computer and it threw up some error about air inlet temp sensor and air flow meter. So the car remains at the mechanic to get the issue fixed tomorrow. Mechanic thinks it might be something simple that may have been knocked out/about when the shifter cables were installed. He dropped me back home in his 1978 911 Turbo...man that things boogies. Really makes me miss my boost!

My offer still stands, and ill throw in a 6 pack of corona's and a pack of chewie to sweeten the deal

My offer still stands, and ill throw in a 6 pack of corona's and a pack of chewie to sweeten the deal
What offer? lol

What offer? lol

Sign onto MSN and i have retyped it for you :bowrofl:

In simple terms....no!!!

It is not the clutch either for the person who posted up the highly technical post.....

5mm in a gear selector cable will make 3 fifths of bugger all difference aside form making your gear stick feel looser than a grey street worker.... I have seen these with the bushed missing and in regards to high tensile pins etc what a load of rubbish, all the split pin does is hold the washer and bush on. There is no force on the split pin at all due to the way the cable is built, the part that attaches to the selector is actually a solid shaft that works its way back into the cable part way to stop it bending when shifting.

Now to the part of the stuck in second gear, it may be a problem with the box itself, if the box in its past life has not had a very happy owner (a lot of people have a bad habbit of resting their hand on the gear stick and this badly wears the selectors inside the box) this can cause the detents to pop out and actually jam the selector from coming back onto it's hub. To check, remove both cables and see if you can pop the selectors back into neutral by hand, these should not take a lot of force to move.

If you want, depending where you are, I am more than happy to pop over and have a look for you mate, will not be hard to diagnose.



The most sensible post in this thread. Round abouts what i was gonna say.

Got the car back today
Mechanic removed and refitted all air intake components from snorkel to throttle body
After doing this the power came back to normal
No more air inlet temp sensor and air flow meter error codes either

Got the car back today
Mechanic removed and refitted all air intake components from snorkel to throttle body
After doing this the power came back to normal
No more air inlet temp sensor and air flow meter error codes either
Somehow I think you should learn how to work on the SOHC 3.5L, me thinks it will save alot of mechanic trips!
Good to hear though man! hows the charger progress?

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Somehow I think you should learn how to work on the SOHC 3.5L, me thinks it will save alot of mechanic trips!
Good to hear though man! hows the charger progress?
Haha yeh i think i'm now an expert on when the SOHC 3.5L fails lol
But when it's working it's awesome, go figure!
Most problems so far have been minor and fixable

Blower came back from Sprintex this week
Car is booked in with mechanic for 2nd week of Jan for fit and tune

Oh yeh and another thing
Driving with a standard shifter feels so damn weird
Feels like it's connected to nothing after coming from a short shifter
But in the long run it's prolly better

Oh yeh and another thing
Driving with a standard shifter feels so damn weird
Feels like it's connected to nothing after coming from a short shifter
But in the long run it's prolly better

Worse comes to worse an hours work and the SS is back in, I think its weird for a SS to make your cable snap...I reckons thats BS unless someone can actually back it up with proof of why/how it does it.
3000GT's have the SS option and All ive heard so far is great things.

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Worse comes to worse an hours work and the SS is back in, I think its weird for a SS to make your cable snap...I reckons thats BS unless someone can actually back it up with proof of why/how it does it.
3000GT's have the SS option and All ive heard so far is great things.
Think it was more the way the the shifter cables were packaged when the trany was sent to me from QLD
Not sure if the SS added to it snapping early but i'll play it safe for now

Great to see this magnificent car back on the road.

Regards, Tony

Got the car back today
Mechanic removed and refitted all air intake components from snorkel to throttle body
After doing this the power came back to normal
No more air inlet temp sensor and air flow meter error codes either

So wait, your mechanic didnt fit the intake back on correctly? there is 1 pipe, 1 plug connection, 2 clamps and 6 bolts in total that hold the entire assembly together, how in gods earth can he screw that up?

So wait, your mechanic didnt fit the intake back on correctly? there is 1 pipe, 1 plug connection, 2 clamps and 6 bolts in total that hold the entire assembly together, how in gods earth can he screw that up?
Who said he didn't fit it all back correctly?
He removed and refitted it as part of the troubleshooting process
It just sorted itself out when this was done

I actually checked everything was fitted up properly with him yesterday right after the issue resurfaced
Everything was in fact in place and nothing stood out of the ordinary

I reckon my car just hates me and chucks a spastic whenever its touched lol

Who said he didn't fit it all back correctly?
He removed and refitted it as part of the troubleshooting process
It just sorted itself out when this was done

I actually checked everything was fitted up properly with him yesterday right after the issue resurfaced
Everything was in fact in place and nothing stood out of the ordinary

I reckon my car just hates me and chucks a spastic whenever its touched lol

Well yeah the way you described it, is that he didnt refit properly hence the issue

Just spoke to the mechanic
One of the shifter cables have snapped
New pair from Mitsu cost $496
I have a 2nd set which are not in the best condition but might have to use them until i can get a good set from a wrecker
If anyone has any leads on these please let me know!

Ouch dude!!!! Good luck finding the cables.....surely some others here would have some lying around....

Some people hoard so much gear.....

Still you're lucky it wasn't more serious.... I'd take a snapped cable over a broken box any day!!

Steve

Ouch dude!!!! Good luck finding the cables.....surely some others here would have some lying around....
Already did and car is back on the road