Im on holidays now and therfore have time to do some basic maintenance on my car.
As I use the factory sunroof almost every day (tilted/open), it has begun to seem to rise out of the roof. It just needs to be adjusted down again for a better seal. At the moment its not leaking, but I rekon it will, if left to go any further up.
At this point I can't upload photos to illustrate the problem because of my bad Internet Service Pusbucket.

I know the workshop manual details the adjusting screws and that's fine. But they are very-extra tight and I really don't wish to thread them.
So (finally to the question), has anyone done this themselves? Is there a particular type of screwdriver or torque version which I could get? Or is the service dealer the only way. The latter is not preferable in my town.

Thanks ahead for any input.

Michael

Used to adjust these all the time at the factory. But we had a gauge that made adjustments very easy. From memory I think the screws are a P2. It's bizarre how many Philips bits there are, pozi, anti cam, P1, P2 etc. Just make sure the screw driver bit is a good fit, and apply constant pressure on the screw head. That's all we did. Should be 4 screws all up. 2 front and 2 back, both under the L shaped trim. Just don't drop it too much or it will leak. We used to set them up so that the glass rubber seal was just a fraction higher than the skin of the roof. :)

YOU sir, are worth your own body weight (perhaps even twice over), in ivory-coloured, gold encrusted murh!
Thanks for the info.
Judging by the tightness of the screw on my car, I imagined they were installed by a machine similar to a rattlegun. Also thanks for the hot tip with the leaking.

Michael

Might give that a go.. Mine has always stuck up a bit to much in the front..:) Thanks

Craig O,
You don't post a lot on AMC - but when you do - it's valuable stuff.
Thanks for the info.

My sunroof tends to creak & groan sometimes if on a rough country road as the body flex's.
I open it and shut it again and the problem goes away for a while - but it comes back.
Might have a look at these screws as well.

YOU sir, are worth your own body weight (perhaps even twice over), in ivory-coloured, gold encrusted murh!
Thanks for the info.
Judging by the tightness of the screw on my car, I imagined they were installed by a machine similar to a rattlegun. Also thanks for the hot tip with the leaking.

Michael

You could try applying some crc or similar to the screws before trying to crack them, but yep we used an air powered screw driver, shaped like a drill. Minimal torque, but myself I preferred to us a hand screw driver with an apex phillips bit. Like I said it is critical that you get the right screw tip, or you will wreck the screw.

Creak and groan sounds would more likely be dry rubber seal around the glass. Give it a good clean and apply some rubber lubricant. We had this stuff that was shipped in from Japan for the rubber seals on the glass. This lubricant also eliminated the chattering of the glass when it was closing from the tilt position.

Craig O,
You don't post a lot on AMC -

My new career keeps me away from the net now for long periods of time. It would be nice if oil tankers had satellite internet for the crew, but at least we get access to email, through the ships computer system.

Besides I don't like posting crap as it can make it hard to find facts when searching through threads.

You could try applying some crc or similar to the screws before trying to crack them, but yep we used an air powered screw driver, shaped like a drill. Minimal torque, but myself I preferred to us a hand screw driver with an apex phillips bit. Like I said it is critical that you get the right screw tip, or you will wreck the screw.

Thanks again, I spent all of yesterday removing all of the windows and the roof for lubrcation service. I got the correct P2 tool and all went well. The shape of my glass isn't the same as my roof panel especially noticeable from the centre-back of the glass which would have a gap when the sides were flush with the steel. (nitpicking here though)


Creak and groan sounds would more likely be dry rubber seal around the glass. Give it a good clean and apply some rubber lubricant. We had this stuff that was shipped in from Japan for the rubber seals on the glass. This lubricant also eliminated the chattering of the glass when it was closing from the tilt position.

DO NOT use armorall on this rubber. When i first got the car, the dealer did and it leaked and drenched the headlining leaving watermarks. NOT COOL! As soon as the armorall wore off, no more leaking since.

Any suggestions as to whats a good rubber lubricant brand??

Also, before adjusting, I removed the glass all together and cleaned the sunshade. It was mega dusty and the black was badly faded but its all good now. I would do this rather than pull the headlining out as its easier and quicker.

Thanks again Craig.

Any suggestions as to whats a good rubber lubricant brand??



Ive been told that CRC 808 does the job (Bunnings), its a silicone based grease, that weather protects the rubber. Although I use it for other applications, like rubber seals in electric motors/pumps etc...

Any suggestions as to whats a good rubber lubricant brand??

Thanks again Craig.

I was told to use vaseline on the sunroofs of other cars I've had. Though thinking about it now, might not be a good idea as it's petroluem based...

Thanks for the info guys. I really appreciate it:)

You are all champions!

Honestly I can't remember the name of the rubber lubricant we used. Couldn't read Japanese.

I have on odd occasions used a little bit of clean engine oil when doing an oil change, as one engineer from a company that we sourced some of the rubber components from stated that rubber is made from oil, it rejuvenates it. Could ask a Mitsubishi dealer, they may know.

I was told to use vaseline on the sunroofs of other cars I've had. Though thinking about it now, might not be a good idea as it's petroluem based...

wouldnt be such a bad idea i dont think because it doesnt have any smell to it..

I remember i had creaking/rattling issues with my sunroof when it was open on a relatively warm day and the guys at mitsu when i had it serviced lubed it up with White Grease.. Stunk the car out for a few weeks, was horrid stuff..

...Creak and groan sounds would more likely be dry rubber seal around the glass. Give it a good clean and apply some rubber lubricant. We had this stuff that was shipped in from Japan for the rubber seals on the glass. This lubricant also eliminated the chattering of the glass when it was closing from the tilt position.Thanks, I'll try that before touching any of the screws as the glass looks to be in a good posy.
Any other ideas (good or bad experiences) for a good rubber lubricant?
Should we look for a silicon or oil based rubber treatment stuff?