Hey, OK I know almost everyone on here is an enthusiast of the highest order, so I'm embarrassed about these pics of my car from the outset.....but I need to know if anybody else is having the same issues as me. I have Superlows in the front and lows in the back, the suspension is hard and barely lowers when the car is full, had it checked and it's all in good order. When I bought the car a bit over a year ago it had a few chips and scratches in the front bar so I had the bar repaired and sprayed (by a professional, I can't spray paint either, I feel more inferior by the second) and the car looked great. The rest of the body is in awesome condition and the color (which has a real name, but has become known by my mates as "Pensioner Beige" or "Gloss Primer/Undercoat") has grown on me, it looks nice when its all washed and in the sun.....which brings me to my problem.....13 or 14 months of driving and the front bar is rooted! I don't drive like a moron, I don't offroad in it, I take it to work and back and it scrapes on EVERYTHING! Driveways, speedhumps, carpark bump-stops, f-ing everything regardless of speed! I raised this issue when I first got the car/joined the site and suggested that I might raise the front and people were really negative. Said that Magna's/Veradas looked better with superlows in the front. It got broken into on the weekend and I had to have a window replaced. The insurance are re-tinting all the windows next week (darkest legal) so I figured it would be time to get the car back to spec and looking nice again, and I've noticed all this damage to the front bar which, like I said, is 12 months old. Is anyone else having the same issues? Is an annual bar respray on the card if I keep the suspension this low? The bar even appears to be torqued/twisted in places due to the scraping/contact......

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/lorlorpy/IMG_0268.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/lorlorpy/IMG_0270.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/lorlorpy/IMG_0271.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/lorlorpy/IMG_0272.jpg

OK, this one below might be a bit more "Driver Related" than the others, scuffed it on a carpark traffic island, but all the others are not my fault!!

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/lorlorpy/IMG_0273.jpg

Hey, OK I know almost everyone on here is an enthusiast of the highest order, so I'm embarrassed about these pics of my car from the outset.....but I need to know if anybody else is having the same issues as me. I have Superlows in the front and lows in the back, the suspension is hard and barely lowers when the car is full, had it checked and it's all in good order. When I bought the car a bit over a year ago it had a few chips and scratches in the front bar so I had the bar repaired and sprayed (by a professional, I can't spray paint either, I feel more inferior by the second) and the car looked great. The rest of the body is in awesome condition and the color (which has a real name, but has become known by my mates as "Pensioner Beige" or "Gloss Primer/Undercoat") has grown on me, it looks nice when its all washed and in the sun.....which brings me to my problem.....13 or 14 months of driving and the front bar is rooted! I don't drive like a moron, I don't offroad in it, I take it to work and back and it scrapes on EVERYTHING! Driveways, speedhumps, carpark bump-stops, f-ing everything regardless of speed! I raised this issue when I first got the car/joined the site and suggested that I might raise the front and people were really negative. Said that Magna's/Veradas looked better with superlows in the front. It got broken into on the weekend and I had to have a window replaced. The insurance are re-tinting all the windows next week (darkest legal) so I figured it would be time to get the car back to spec and looking nice again, and I've noticed all this damage to the front bar which, like I said, is 12 months old. Is anyone else having the same issues? Is an annual bar respray on the card if I keep the suspension this low? The bar even appears to be torqued/twisted in places due to the scraping/contact......

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/lorlorpy/IMG_0268.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/lorlorpy/IMG_0270.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/lorlorpy/IMG_0271.jpg
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/lorlorpy/IMG_0272.jpg

OK, this one below might be a bit more "Driver Related" than the others, scuffed it on a carpark traffic island, but all the others are not my fault!!

http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/lorlorpy/IMG_0273.jpg

After poorly trying to figure out what your getting by this thread, you are taking it either too fast (obstacles) or not on an angle, My TH is lower then yours (custom springs) and i barely scrape anything except the mudflaps.

Take stuff slower and on an angle if poss and you will be fine

http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/front/user-error.jpg

Yep, it's all about your speed and angle of attack (yes attack, those speed bumps and curbs are vicious lol).

didnt even get that far with mine on the test drive just on the road dinted the pacemakers collector, off they came

After poorly trying to figure out what your getting by this thread

What are you saying? Sometimes my short attention span causes me to ramble, but I don't think thats the case in this - yellow umbrella? Who carries an umbrella in summer?


Take stuff slower and on an angle if poss and you will be fine

This is part of my long, indecipherable point, :bowrofl: it scrapes even on an angle, even if I stop before the speedhump/driveway and let it roll over, and it's not just the bumper, it's the mudflaps and exhaust too. I didn't get a pic of it, but I reversed down a mates driveway, it wasn't especially steep, there was nobody in the back and I had to come to a stop to let cars pass, so I'd just started reversing again when it hit the road and snapped off one of the exhaust tips (I now only have one, the other one snapped about an inch after the muffler) and scraped the bottom of the spare wheel carrier. The bottom of the muffler is scratched and dented from other similar incidents and the back muffler scrapes even if you drive rather than reverse down driveways. Does the lower suspension really make that much difference to the handling? I think the car looks ****loads better lowered, but I don't know of anyone else who has to respray their bumper at every major service. Obviously it's just me (and PeteW) having issues, lol, I just thought it was worth checking if other members had the same trouble, clearly I'm in a minority :redface:


http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/front/user-error.jpg

I'm starting to get that impression :badgrin:

what size are your wheels? 16's i presume if standard Verada...?

what size are your wheels? 16's i presume if standard Verada...?

Yep, standard wheels, standard size Pirelli tyres, nothing modified except suspension (and the squashed exhaust, hideously deformed bumper and shredded mudflaps)lol

What are you saying? Sometimes my short attention span causes me to ramble, but I don't think thats the case in this - yellow umbrella? Who carries an umbrella in summer?



This is part of my long, indecipherable point, :bowrofl: it scrapes even on an angle, even if I stop before the speedhump/driveway and let it roll over, and it's not just the bumper, it's the mudflaps and exhaust too. I didn't get a pic of it, but I reversed down a mates driveway, it wasn't especially steep, there was nobody in the back and I had to come to a stop to let cars pass, so I'd just started reversing again when it hit the road and snapped off one of the exhaust tips (I now only have one, the other one snapped about an inch after the muffler) and scraped the bottom of the spare wheel carrier. The bottom of the muffler is scratched and dented from other similar incidents and the back muffler scrapes even if you drive rather than reverse down driveways. Does the lower suspension really make that much difference to the handling? I think the car looks ****loads better lowered, but I don't know of anyone else who has to respray their bumper at every major service. Obviously it's just me (and PeteW) having issues, lol, I just thought it was worth checking if other members had the same trouble, clearly I'm in a minority :redface:



I'm starting to get that impression :badgrin:

No, just the mass slab of text without any gaps, just makes it harder to read thats all.

why not make it easy on us by telling us the ride height at the front, from ground to the bumper (and tell us which point of the bumper u took ur measurement), and on level ground. Maybe then we can work out if the car sits strangely low...


my guess is user error tho.. ur car isnt a 4x4 anymore, yet its being treated as such. oh, and remove the front mudflaps after putting superlows in, they scrape like a b*tch otherwise

and for godsake, learn to split up a post! it was a paragraph of text, even at 1920x1200!

maybe your shocks are rooted and your springs have sagged?

I have a VR-X on King Lows (so probably a fraction higher than yours) and I have had nearly no issues since lowering. I got my front bumper repainted in June, and I haven't put a single stratch or scrape on it anywhere at all! (until yesterday, when I ran into - not just scraped - a carpark bumpstop :disgusted)

I've never ever scraped over a speedbump, and I've only scraped out of driveways a few times. Like the other guys have said, as long as you take it slowly (even if it means crawling pace) and at an angle, you shouldn't have any problems.

My th is bloody low too, my fornt bar had already been repaired once before i owned the car, and my wife then managed to tear off the repair, i now have a massive section of bar missing as a result, no point fixing it as it'll just happen again whilst she drives it.:cry:

i rember my clearance we checked it 9cm from the cross member to the ground packys have about 2cm/3cm lower, mine was more probly country roads, on that note i still have to find some low rears should have done it over my xmass break

With superlows on stock shocks your tow hooks should measure about 130mm off the ground, any lower then this your shocks may be sagged.

Other then that, take it much slower - I can't take my driveway without scraping until I feel my tyres hit the crest, if I take it before then the cars gets stuck on the tow hooks (Pete can vouch for this).

In all, I hardly ever scrape, so long as there is 10cm clearance I can drive everywhere just fine.

Saying that, I have also mounted carpark bump stops many times - They need to make them lower damnit!

i never had any issues when i had superlows in my old car, but soon the springs are going into the vrx i am gonna have fun getting into my driveway! lebo slant ftw!

i never had any issues when i had superlows in my old car, but soon the springs are going into the vrx i am gonna have fun getting into my driveway! lebo slant ftw!

Yes... that 18cm ditch you call a driveway :P

Yes... that 18cm ditch you call a driveway :P
yeah its pretty huge you owe me for damaging my driveway!

yeah its pretty huge you owe me for damaging my driveway!

haha I think I shaved another 1mm off my tow hooks :P

why not make it easy on us by telling us the ride height at the front, from ground to the bumper (and tell us which point of the bumper u took ur measurement), and on level ground. Maybe then we can work out if the car sits strangely low...

Right Tow Hook is 135mm from the ground, but (you will see in the photos) it's mangled and sits higher than the bumper, so the bumper would hit the ground before tow hook would.

Left tow hook (also slightly mangled) sits ~130mm from the ground.

Bumper sits about 130mm from the ground when measured at the point of each tow hook.



my guess is user error tho.. ur car isnt a 4x4 anymore, yet its being treated as such. oh, and remove the front mudflaps after putting superlows in, they scrape like a b*tch otherwise

Eh, I seriously drive it only in the suburbs and around the city, wouldn't consider taking the bastard off road because it hits everything as it is.

To get to my work I go down a laneway then across a street into the underground carpark of my work. I scrape the front and back as I go down the driveway at the end of the lane, and the front and back again as I go up the driveway into the carpark. I can crawl, at an angle, and it helps nothing.

Will remove front mudflaps asap. They are rooted anyway.


and for godsake, learn to split up a post! it was a paragraph of text, even at 1920x1200!

Would God be happier with this? I'm not much into God, didn't even know he could use a computer. Will try harder in future, but I might make it for the sake of someone real lol

Right Tow Hook is 135mm from the ground, but (you will see in the photos) it's mangled and sits higher than the bumper, so the bumper would hit the ground before tow hook would.

Left tow hook (also slightly mangled) sits ~130mm from the ground.

Bumper sits about 130mm from the ground when measured at the point of each tow hook.

with that sort of clearance, u shouldnt have any issues with ur bumper. I have less than that, and i only scrape the bottom of the bumper, i dont have any hits on the front.

avoid the curbs and u'll be fine ;)