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Rory_newton
06-01-2009, 11:34 AM
I just bought some HSK 165's components and I would really like to use the grille that came with the speakers instead of using the crappy plastic grey mitsu one. The problem is, that mitsu have the grille in a shape that is just plain annoying so i cant just stick the new grille where the old one is without bending it or something.
How did you guys go about doing this?

Ers
06-01-2009, 11:39 AM
I dont think anyone has mounted an aftermarket grill.

Too complicated, plus the stealth look is a lot safer :)

Mr_Roberto
06-01-2009, 03:03 PM
wouldnt bother with it mate
wont see it behind the door trim

Sycrat
06-01-2009, 03:07 PM
I dont think anyone has mounted an aftermarket grill.

Too complicated, plus the stealth look is a lot safer :)
+1
Same goes for all my speakers.

Rory_newton
06-01-2009, 03:12 PM
wont see it behind the door trim

What do you mean?
Im talking about the actual speaker grille that came with the components! I can screw it on the door trim thing where the old one was, but it doesnt sit right because of the curvy shape of the original mitsu grille!
I thought about heating up and bending the new grille into shape, but that will be hard work and will prob affect the warrenty on the speakers..... rgg

Mr_Roberto
06-01-2009, 03:24 PM
What do you mean?
Im talking about the actual speaker grille that came with the components! I can screw it on the door trim thing where the old one was, but it doesnt sit right because of the curvy shape of the original mitsu grille!
I thought about heating up and bending the new grille into shape, but that will be hard work and will prob affect the warrenty on the speakers..... rgg

oh i thought you still had the stock one on, my bad
but yeah just leave the stock one on to make it look factory
well as in the car looks stock from the inside and also people cant see what you've got, so they dont break in to steal it

Nemesis
06-01-2009, 03:26 PM
Exactly! Hence why I haven't put that Focal sticker up on my window.

Rory_newton
06-01-2009, 03:28 PM
oh i thought you still had the stock one on, my bad
but yeah just leave the stock one on to make it look factory
well as in the car looks stock from the inside and also people cant see what you've got, so they dont break in to steal it

Ahh ok well ill just leave the stock on then! Although my tweeters kinda make it obvious that they are not stock.... lol
They are sitting up on the dash so everybody who looks in can easily see them (Well in the little cup things that come with the tweeters for mounting).... hmmm

Nemesis
06-01-2009, 03:29 PM
Can't you fit yours into the tweeter pods?

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r161/rhys_fairall/04122008_004.jpg

like those?

Rory_newton
06-01-2009, 03:29 PM
Exactly! Hence why I haven't put that Focal sticker up on my window.

But isnt it going to be difficult for somebody to get the speakers out of the door? They would have to take the door trim thing off, get past the dynomat, and then have a screwdriver handy to unscrew the speaker...Doubt this could be accomplished very easily...

Rory_newton
06-01-2009, 03:30 PM
Can't you fit yours into the tweeter pods?

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r161/rhys_fairall/04122008_004.jpg

like those?

Nah, my tweeters were too big and also i have drilled the 'cups' into were the little covers where the 4" drivers go in some magna's//so if i did ever stick my tweets into pods, i would have hideous looking covers :(

Nemesis
06-01-2009, 03:32 PM
Mate, they're not going to take it off gently.

They'd probably pull on the door trim till it breaks, quickly unscrew the speakers from the mounts and rip them out of there.

hlucin8
06-01-2009, 11:04 PM
But isnt it going to be difficult for somebody to get the speakers out of the door? They would have to take the door trim thing off, get past the dynomat, and then have a screwdriver handy to unscrew the speaker...Doubt this could be accomplished very easily...

If i was stealling your speakers i could have the door trim off in about 2 seconds. and the speaker out in about 10.

Aftermarket grills WILL NOT FIT without a huge amount of work. and at the end of the day they will look ****.

Go to mitsu and buy the tweeter pods. $30 a pair new from mitsu spare parts

Rory_newton
06-01-2009, 11:07 PM
If i was stealling your speakers i could have the door trim off in about 2 seconds. and the speaker out in about 10.

Aftermarket grills WILL NOT FIT without a huge amount of work. and at the end of the day they will look ****.

Go to mitsu and buy the tweeter pods. $30 a pair new from mitsu spare parts

Yeah i would have, but i was told that my tweeters would not fit in them.

hlucin8
06-01-2009, 11:39 PM
According to the hertz site the tweeters only 1" diameter. you should deffinately be able to put that in there

Sycrat
07-01-2009, 06:07 AM
If i was stealling your speakers i could have the door trim off in about 2 seconds. and the speaker out in about 10.

Aftermarket grills WILL NOT FIT without a huge amount of work. and at the end of the day they will look ****.

Go to mitsu and buy the tweeter pods. $30 a pair new from mitsu spare parts
WHAT?!?!?
The guy at mitsu told me that you couldn't buy the pods seperately, and you had to get the tweeters, and that they were 100+ EA!?!?!

Grrr so pissed now, I just mounted them on my dash too :cry:

SH00T
07-01-2009, 06:35 AM
WHAT?!?!?
The guy at mitsu told me that you couldn't buy the pods seperately, and you had to get the tweeters, and that they were 100+ EA!?!?!

Grrr so pissed now, I just mounted them on my dash too :cry:
I just bought some last week Mits in springwood. But after doing all that, I wouldn't change them if I were you, unless you got new top inserts from a wrecker.

Those pods are just the trick, aim the sound right at you, makes a heap of a difference. And look so Stock....But real neat....
I order them at 9 AM and picked them up at 1 PM. New years Eve.. $37.00 though

Sycrat
07-01-2009, 06:40 AM
I just bought some last week Mits in springwood. But after doing all that, I wouldn't change them if I were you, unless you got new top inserts from a wrecker.

Those pods are just the trick, aim the sound right at you, makes a heap of a difference. And look so Stock....But real neat....
Pretty sure it'd be fine, because the only hole I put in them is for the cables, I used the sticky tape stuff to stick em there, on top with the angled cup thingo..

That's funny, springwood's the place that told me they don't sell them seperately :rant:.

But yeah, I don't think I'd be stuffed moving all the cables around, already soldered it in under the dash with the crossovers..
Meh, at least they sound good :D

SH00T
07-01-2009, 06:42 AM
Does get them out of the sun though:doubt:

Happy to lend a hand :)

Sycrat
07-01-2009, 06:46 AM
Does get them out of the sun though:doubt:
Yeah.. Might save it for sometime when I've got the day off work and I'm really bored.. like yesterday lol

Where do your cables go then? Just drop down into the main part of the door trim with the speaker?
That would've been soooo much easier than ripping out the glove box and finding the cable then cutting it up etc.

SH00T
07-01-2009, 06:50 AM
I succesfully ran two new wire pairs through the rubber grommets into the doors, and put it all back as before, and left the stock wiring in place, if I ever want to return it to factory.

Sycrat
07-01-2009, 06:55 AM
That works too haha.
How did you connect up a new pair to the head unit? I thought it all just went through the wiring harness..

SH00T
07-01-2009, 07:00 AM
I had wired in the Aerpro adapter, and interfered with it from there. So, you guessed it, I can return to stock..

Life
07-01-2009, 08:45 AM
Most tweeters are too thick for the standard pods, I'm going to put mine here like wollongongVerada (Mark) did. There is plenty of clearance and if done right it looks factory.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2779/38033588wa7.jpg

Rory_newton
07-01-2009, 09:08 AM
According to the hertz site the tweeters only 1" diameter. you should deffinately be able to put that in there

Really??? Arrrgg...Maybe i have to find some way to get them out of these cases then, coz when i meansured with a ruler they were 1.5".. hmm

Does mitsubishi sell the two little circle things that go where the 4" would go in some verada's?? Coz mine will have loads of holes if i now go and buy the pods..

SH00T
07-01-2009, 10:54 AM
Jaycar's splits tweeter's go in the delta pods and are excellent value for money.

MitchellO
07-01-2009, 02:57 PM
Yeah the ones with my Alpine Type S splits fit the pods too.

Mr_Roberto
07-01-2009, 03:12 PM
Yeah the ones with my Alpine Type S splits fit the pods too.

yep, had my old type s tweeters in the pods
fit nice and snug :)


Really??? Arrrgg...Maybe i have to find some way to get them out of these cases then, coz when i meansured with a ruler they were 1.5".. hmm

you did take the tweeter out of its housing yeah?
should be just the tweeter with the wire coming out, should see the metal bottom of the tweeter

Lucifer
07-01-2009, 03:46 PM
Most tweeters are too thick for the standard pods, I'm going to put mine here like wollongongVerada (Mark) did. There is plenty of clearance and if done right it looks factory.
Bull****. You're just not trying hard enough.

Mr_Roberto
07-01-2009, 04:17 PM
Bull****. You're just not trying hard enough.

yeah, my eclipse tweeters pretty much filled the whole pod
just angled them right so i could just clip the pod onto the door
theres abit of room in there ;)

Rory_newton
07-01-2009, 05:54 PM
Ok i have decided that i will go and buy some pods as soon as i get some more monies.

Do mitsu sell the round speaker covers that go on the dash for where the 4" midbass drivers are supposed to go??? Coz i have ruined these as i have mounted my tweeters on them and so i will now need replacements.... :cry:

Lucifer
07-01-2009, 06:59 PM
Ok i have decided that i will go and buy some pods as soon as i get some more monies.

Do mitsu sell the round speaker covers that go on the dash for where the 4" midbass drivers are supposed to go??? Coz i have ruined these as i have mounted my tweeters on them and so i will now need replacements.... :cry:
Are you able to go to a wrecker near you? I guarantee you that'll be cheaper than going to mitsubishi.

Rory_newton
07-01-2009, 07:46 PM
Are you able to go to a wrecker near you? I guarantee you that'll be cheaper than going to mitsubishi.

Oh good idea! I never even thought about that! :D

Shawn
07-01-2009, 08:42 PM
anyone got a photo of the tweeter pods from mitsu?

Lucifer
08-01-2009, 10:17 AM
anyone got a photo of the tweeter pods from mitsu?
Look harder :doubt:

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showpost.php?p=971773&postcount=24

Look at the picture there, tweeter pod is above the red circle and to the right.

Shawn
08-01-2009, 03:50 PM
the inside if where the mirror is? wouldn't that be too small for a tweeter?

super_sheep
08-01-2009, 04:47 PM
i doubt that the hsk-165 tweeter will fit into the standard delta pods...they are kinda big ( site says 1" diameter but thats only the cone area... i would say closer to 1.5- 1.75")

Rory_newton
08-01-2009, 04:49 PM
i doubt that the hsk-165 tweeter will fit into the standard delta pods...they are kinda big ( site says 1" diameter but thats only the cone area... i would say closer to 1.5- 1.75")

Ahhh! Can anybody else confirm this before I go and waste my money on delta pods?

Mr_Roberto
08-01-2009, 05:01 PM
i would say that the verada pods can only accept upto 1" tweeters (which most low comp splits are)

Rory_newton
08-01-2009, 05:08 PM
i would say that the verada pods can only accept upto 1" tweeters (which most low comp splits are)

You mean low cost? I paid $450 for my HSK 165 comps (thats with 10% discount coz of after chrissy sales..). is that low? :O

But i really want to know if my tweeters with fit before i go and buy some pods...

Shawn
08-01-2009, 05:12 PM
are the genuine mitsubishi tweeters any good? anyone know the output on them?

i found these on ebay... worth getting?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BRAND-NEW-Mitsubishi-Magna-Verada-front-tweeters_W0QQitemZ230318042397QQcmdZViewItemQQptZA U_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item230318042397&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318

hlucin8
08-01-2009, 07:00 PM
in a word....

NO

Ers
08-01-2009, 07:10 PM
You mean low cost? I paid $450 for my HSK 165 comps (thats with 10% discount coz of after chrissy sales..). is that low? :O

But i really want to know if my tweeters with fit before i go and buy some pods...

Thats the start of mid-range.

Elwyn
08-01-2009, 07:37 PM
Just an FYI,

Regarding those round circles/pods in the top of the dash, that take an approx 3" midrange speaker in Verada's, Sports etc:

- the Workshop Manual advises they are levered out of the dash by gently inserting a slender screwdriver etc down the edge and lever gently up and out. maybe try padding the implement with some thin soft cloth to aviod marring the dash vinyl. Just in case OP wants to seek some replacements at wreckers etc.

- the Mitsi Clearance Centre in Adelaide has/had "Infinity" speakers for this location (better quality than the "standard" Magna/Verada dash speaker), at the princely sum of $5- each. I plan to upgrade my Sports and Verada dash speakers with the 3" infinity ones. A search in here should reveal a pic someone put up, the magnets etc on the Infinity looked far larger than the standard ones, and from memory they had capacitors etc (for x-over) mounted under the speaker near the magnet, so i assume they are just wired direct to HU (or so I am hoping).

Shawn
08-01-2009, 07:45 PM
so those circle caps on the dash are actually there for speakers? thats the use? i was worried they might be connected to the aircon or something.

echidna3
08-01-2009, 07:51 PM
so those circle caps on the dash are actually there for speakers? thats the use? i was worried they might be connected to the aircon or something.

i didnt think they were designed for speakers??

Elwyn
08-01-2009, 07:53 PM
yep,

the dash circles were used in models which came with 8-spkr audio system (2 rears, 2 doors, 2 delta-pods, 2 dash) - my early KJ Verada ei uses the dash speakers - instead of weird round vinyl you see speaker cloth!!

Cars with 6-spkr audio (such as my TJ Sports) had the delta-tweeters but not the dash mid-range speakers.

echidna3
08-01-2009, 07:56 PM
yep,

the dash circles were used in models which came with 8-spkr audio system (2 rears, 2 doors, 2 delta-pods, 2 dash) - my early KJ Verada ei uses the dash speakers - instead of weird round vinyl you see speaker cloth!!

Cars with 6-spkr audio (such as my TJ Sports) had the delta-tweeters but not the dash mid-range speakers.

ahh ok. interesting.

Shawn
08-01-2009, 07:59 PM
hmm, maybe further down the line i'll put some speakers in there. for now i'm gonna go to the mitsubishi place and try to get some of the tweeter pods... then i'll find some tweeters that fit in it since i'm assuming the genuine tweeters will be just as poor as the genuine door and rear speakers (they were 15watt!)

Rory_newton
08-01-2009, 08:00 PM
assuming the genuine tweeters will be just as poor as the genuine door and rear speakers (they were 15watt!)

And made in malaysia! LOL

Shawn
08-01-2009, 08:01 PM
i kept one of the 6" speakers... i use it to magnatise my screwdrivers! all its good for.

hlucin8
08-01-2009, 08:02 PM
TH Altera LS had factory dash and door.
i used the factory location for the PRS Tweeters