Hi Guys,

Just about to sell my TS and need to know some info about the auto tranny (2.6L engine).

Firstly, when I shift into D when still rolling backwards out my drive it bites hard and the front end leaps up with the shock. No, I'm not going fast when I do it. Idle is normal. Is this normal with Magnas? Torque stay rubbers seem to be OK. It changes smoothly if I stop completely and then slide into D.

Secondly, when cold, it can be a little reluctant to shift into second when I take off with any appreciable throttle. After a couple of changes, all operates fine. It usually works fine if I take off with very light throttle. ATF is about 15k old and is the genuine fluid from Mitsi (it was really the cheapest fluid as well).

Hard to say how many k's its done, as the clock shows 161 k. However it sarted to have excessive blowby and when I took the head off, no 2 & 3 cyls had about 1mm ridge on the front face! Anyways, picked up a second hand engine and put my previously reco head on (couldn't feel any ridges in the pots) and all is good now. This was 10 - 15 ks ago.

Otherwise the box runs like any box should and is quite smooth. If it is minor probs, would like to sort it out before selling.

Any help appreciated.

sounds exactly like mine mate. Nothing to worry about. Really, until the GB begins grinding, slipping or plain not shifting(or shifting with excessive shock) you shouldnt worry.

by the first bit i assume you mean your rolling back in R, switch to D while still rolling and it jolts top a stop pretty hard?
yeah its normal with ours, it was hard for me to get used to after driving my mums forester and my instructors WRX for a year which both just keep rolling back when you switch to D from R
i think doing this in our cars is pretty bad for it, gotta stop before you switch i think

by the first bit i assume you mean your rolling back in R, switch to D while still rolling and it jolts top a stop pretty hard?

Yeah, that's it.

Also what we had to learn to do. Just trying to find out if it's normal and that there's nothing to fix hopefully.

by the first bit i assume you mean your rolling back in R, switch to D while still rolling and it jolts top a stop pretty hard?
yeah its normal with ours, it was hard for me to get used to after driving my mums forester and my instructors WRX for a year which both just keep rolling back when you switch to D from R
i think doing this in our cars is pretty bad for it, gotta stop before you switch i think

Rolling back and switching gear is bad for any transmission. It can damage your selector synchro.

Strongly advise against it. My mate did it in his TJ and fried his trans.

by the first bit i assume you mean your rolling back in R, switch to D while still rolling and it jolts top a stop pretty hard?
yeah its normal with ours, it was hard for me to get used to after driving my mums forester and my instructors WRX for a year which both just keep rolling back when you switch to D from R
i think doing this in our cars is pretty bad for it, gotta stop before you switch i think


I'm perplexed. WTF would anyone do this for, and why would driving instructors be teaching it? Shoving your car into drive while it has rearward momentum is bound to stuff up the transmission. I think a warningnot to do it is actually in the driver's manual somewhere. :nuts:

I'm perplexed. WTF would anyone do this for, and why would driving instructors be teaching it? Shoving your car into drive while it has rearward momentum is bound to stuff up the transmission. I think a warningnot to do it is actually in the driver's manual somewhere. :nuts:

Mate, heaps of people do it. Its a very common thing with people that dont realy know. Some people believe that the trans will go into neutral in between and it will be ok. I never do it anymore.

I'm perplexed. WTF would anyone do this for, and why would driving instructors be teaching it? Shoving your car into drive while it has rearward momentum is bound to stuff up the transmission. I think a warningnot to do it is actually in the driver's manual somewhere. :nuts:
Yes do not do this is in magna auto trannys. In falcon transmissions its fine to do....I never ever abused my auto transmission and lucky, because when it was ripped apart it was on its last legs. No Rolling R's to D's and definitely no N dumps or hoon acts to try and get the wheels going. Take care of these transmissions or else they will suffer

My V6 TS auto does the same - need to be stationary before going R ->N->D to avoid a thump. It is also slow in selecting 2nd when cold, but improves when it warms up. Selecting D when cold engages instantly, but takes 1-2 sec when the box is hot. Also, 4th engages at 50KPH when hot, but when cold it just flares and does not pick up 4th at all. I shift manually when the box is cold and select 4th ater 5 Km by lifting off at 60KPH and pushing the button. Its just a matter of being aware of the (very tired) gearbox's limitations after 230,000Km and driving within its limitations to make it last longer. It takes the same level of concentration as driving a manual, but the car was cheap. Next Magna I buy will be a low Km auto or a high Km manual - have :learnt enough to avoid high Km autos! :badgrin:

Just remembered - I have the power button down permanently as it skips 2nd gear otherwise!
ie. in D, sedate takeoff: 1st to 2,500 rpm, 2nd and then 3rd straightaway. With the button down, it will hold 2nd to 2,500 before picking up 3rd - smoother and better acceleration. (I bet it is a pump pressure problem)

TUFFTR: "when it was ripped apart it was on its last legs." At what Km, pray tell?

My V6 TS auto does the same - need to be stationary before going R ->N->D to avoid a thump. It is also slow in selecting 2nd when cold, but improves when it warms up. Selecting D when cold engages instantly, but takes 1-2 sec when the box is hot. Also, 4th engages at 50KPH when hot, but when cold it just flares and does not pick up 4th at all. I shift manually when the box is cold and select 4th ater 5 Km by lifting off at 60KPH and pushing the button. Its just a matter of being aware of the (very tired) gearbox's limitations after 230,000Km and driving within its limitations to make it last longer. It takes the same level of concentration as driving a manual, but the car was cheap. Next Magna I buy will be a low Km auto or a high Km manual - have :learnt enough to avoid high Km autos! :badgrin:

Just remembered - I have the power button down permanently as it skips 2nd gear otherwise!
ie. in D, sedate takeoff: 1st to 2,500 rpm, 2nd and then 3rd straightaway. With the button down, it will hold 2nd to 2,500 before picking up 3rd - smoother and better acceleration. (I bet it is a pump pressure problem)

Youre gearbox is rooted my friend.

YANN89: "Youre gearbox is rooted my friend."

POSSIBLE RESPONSES:

(1) Oh NO!

(2) Yes I know. I'm trying to make it last as long as possible. Bought this car cheaply. Was expecting many other problems too, didn't happen.

(3) My gearbox has had sexual intercourse? Who? When? I'm disgusted!

(4) Add your own.

YANN89:
Seriously, I know any TS V6 with auto still going at 230,000Km is a miracle child. I knew that when I bought it.

Wanna give me some idea of a fix cost? Recon box? Pull it out get it rebuilt, that sort of thing?

tufftr didnt say anything. Lol. I did. Wreckers here want 350 for a 2nd hand GB with approx 160 on clock.

apologies to TUFFTR then! I go back and change my posts, yes? lol

There! All fixed!

Second hand box is an option - once this one packs up properly! (ie I need a towtruck)

My V6 TS auto does the same - need to be stationary before going R ->N->D to avoid a thump. It is also slow in selecting 2nd when cold, but improves when it warms up. Selecting D when cold engages instantly, but takes 1-2 sec when the box is hot. Also, 4th engages at 50KPH when hot, but when cold it just flares and does not pick up 4th at all. I shift manually when the box is cold and select 4th ater 5 Km by lifting off at 60KPH and pushing the button. Its just a matter of being aware of the (very tired) gearbox's limitations after 230,000Km and driving within its limitations to make it last longer. It takes the same level of concentration as driving a manual, but the car was cheap. Next Magna I buy will be a low Km auto or a high Km manual - have :learnt enough to avoid high Km autos! :badgrin:

Just remembered - I have the power button down permanently as it skips 2nd gear otherwise!
ie. in D, sedate takeoff: 1st to 2,500 rpm, 2nd and then 3rd straightaway. With the button down, it will hold 2nd to 2,500 before picking up 3rd - smoother and better acceleration. (I bet it is a pump pressure problem)


i get this too.....?hmmmmmm:confused:

TUFFTR: "when it was ripped apart it was on its last legs." At what Km, pray tell?
I sold my gearbox for $100 and told the guy what was wrong, would slip gears while cold (flare) but when warm it was fine. (He needed an auto box asap) When his mechanic got it, apparently ripped it apart and had said most of the clutch packs were gone (No idea how autos work so I have no idea what "gone" means really...) and it was lucky it was still going. Apparently all the valve body's had cracks in them too. But he said there were still some good parts so he took the good parts out of mine and made one good box out of 2....

Gearbox was 230K old. Never abused and was pretty good, never leaked or anything.

Doesn't bode well for mine then - same Km!

are we sure its bad for any transmission?
heaps of people i know do it, and it doesnt do the slamming thing like in ours, they're newer cars though, so i assumed they have a safety feature to stop reverse to drive bogan dumps etc which mean they keep rolling and only switch once stopped or something
no bad things seem to have come in any of those cars
in my TR its obviously bad hence why i dont do it, but seems fine in the subaru's etc
pretty sure its been fine in a sonata and a camry i know of too, but obviously plenty more seem to be fine

I can't think of any time in my driving life that I have been rolling backwards and wanted to shove my transmission straight into drive. Surely people can put their foot on the brake before they do so?

Bad for your manual trans too.

For the most part I'm nearly stopped when I do it (foot on brake as well). It's the only car I've known to do that and I've had a few autos. That's why I ask, as it is unusual in my experience.

YANN89:
Seriously, I know any TS V6 with auto still going at 230,000Km is a miracle child. I knew that when I bought it.


Thats a load of ****. I'm proud of the fact that the gbox in my dads/sisters/bros ks rada made 395,000 before the engine gave up.

Also this is a mitsu design which is to help you rip mad skids and kill your gearbox.

Oh, good news! I REALLY hope you are right, and I will get more Kms out of my auto box!

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