O.K. to cut a very long story short my AWD's had an ECU RETUNE today, yes bit of a Mythbusters thing, believe it or leave it.

MODS. K&N PANEL
C.A.I.
R.P.W. EXTRACTORS
2.5 inch X-FORCE METAL CAT
LUKEY MUF.
ZERO FLOWED T/BODY
FUEL 98 RON
TRANS. 5SPD. TIPPY

Car is much more lively accross the whole rev range, can feel noticeable increase in torque.
0.4 better economy and probably still coming down when I got home,plus a hot day with A/C on.

Thats all my SECRETS for today! :roll:



http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq8/lewiston142/magnadyno.jpg

543 NM at the wheels?? HUH?

Thats alot of torque.

I don't think dynos measure torque accurately. Someone who knows their stuff will be able to fill you in.

How much did the tune set you back?

when you're taslking about dyno readings , they don't measure torque. they measure tractive effort.

It's just displayed as torque, i don't know why.

when you're taslking about dyno readings , they don't measure torque. they measure tractive effort.

It's just displayed as torque, i don't know why.

yes and then there reading is affect by the gear ratio (final drive) of the car, hence why most vehicles when dynod are run in the gear closest to 1:1 in the gearbox

The 93kW and 30kW gain doesn't seem right, but the 121kW seems pretty good. Well done.

Who actually did the work on your car was it Steve himself or a guy called Stephen, good results tho.

i am interested to know how the factory ecu was retuned(or do you have a piggyback)

i believe the factory ecu can be retuned, Jason has done it and steve is just a wiz kid ( adult ) with the factory ecu's

Hi Zero, good result...but what did it cost$$$

i believe the factory ecu can be retuned, Jason has done it and steve is just a wiz kid ( adult ) with the factory ecu's

Correct.

You just need 1 standard issue TH ecu 1 security bypass and 1 tuner from SA. Im pretty sure Zero just had a morristech installed

Correct.

You just need 1 standard issue TH ecu 1 security bypass and 1 tuner from SA. Im pretty sure Zero just had a morristech installed

No its the stock ECU, 00.

Looks good Al, what did the tune cost all up, if you don't mind me asking?

Yeah i know the bloke your talking about, if you pay for the plane ticket to and from SA he will retune most factory mitsi ecus.

Ah, the Diamond Knight. Top result, just need the Street Fighter manifold on and you'll be into the low 130s atw.

Was there much timing advance change around the 3500-4000 vs other rpm ranges?

Everyone's still wandering about the CASH. :badgrin:

Cash is relative, a bit like Einsteins Theory. :D

Ah, the Diamond Knight. Top result, just need the Street Fighter manifold on and you'll be into the low 130s atw.

Was there much timing advance change around the 3500-4000 vs other rpm ranges?

Yes a visit from Dr John would be good too.
Can't say about advance,I'm a Noob suffering from info overload. :redface:

Everyone's still wandering about the CASH. :badgrin:

If people pay me "good" money then i will do work on there cars lol

Just remember knowledge and expierience doesnt come cheap and steve knight is a good bloke who wont stuff ya around.

So jason,

How much would you think would be a "good" amount for me to pay you to rebuild my engine:)

So jason,

How much would you think would be a "good" amount for me to pay you to rebuild my engine:)


Ill rebuild your engine for free QMD///801!!
Of course you wont be getting it back though..... :badgrin:

So jason,

How much would you think would be a "good" amount for me to pay you to rebuild my engine:)

Oh gee i left myself wide open for that question hey lol

Doing a rebuild for someone isnt overally hard its just finding the time to dedicate to the job (currently working 6days a week doesnt leave much time to do my own things :()
There is no way id do someone else rebuild if i couldnt put 100% of my time into getting a great result for them, hence why im very reluctant to take it on.

Oh gee i left myself wide open for that question hey lol

Doing a rebuild for someone isnt overally hard its just finding the time to dedicate to the job (currently working 6days a week doesnt leave much time to do my own things :()
There is no way id do someone else rebuild if i couldnt put 100% of my time into getting a great result for them, hence why im very reluctant to take it on.

hehehehe well a sunny vacation up to qld sounds like exactly what you need... hell I'll set you up with a garage right on the water so it feels like your on vacation...

out of interest how long would it take? without stressing if you had all the parts needed when u started...

There is nothing i'd love more than for you to do my build without a doubt from what I have found anywhere no one else has been able to do what you have with a NA 3.5, id love to see what u could do with an extra 14psi and some funny gas

hehehehe well a sunny vacation up to qld sounds like exactly what you need... hell I'll set you up with a garage right on the water so it feels like your on vacation...

out of interest how long would it take? without stressing if you had all the parts needed when u started...

There is nothing i'd love more than for you to do my build without a doubt from what I have found anywhere no one else has been able to do what you have with a NA 3.5, id love to see what u could do with an extra 14psi and some funny gas

Time to do a build up all depends on what needs to be machined (block, crank etc), what parts need work like relieving the big end caps on the rods to allow ARP rod bolt fitment, porting of the heads and associated work, basically when you are waiting for others to do there work is when it can get dragged out time wise.

The actual final "screwing" of the engine together doesnt take all that long, its all the dummy/trial fitment and clearance checking that goes on before hand that is time consuming.
As a guide my engine got trial/dummy fitted together 3 times before i was happy with where it was..... IF only Tighe could make me a pair of bloody cams that dont have issue then i could get around to totally finishing mine off and finally add the giggle gas!


Anyway lets get this thread back on topic (sorry Zero)

The price?......far out-weighs any other ECU deals. And is performed by an Expert.

Well I've done plenty more k's now and fuel economy has settled at o.8 less fuel now.
Did'nt really consider economy before hand, but thought its worth mentioning.

Yes the man now has the ability to bypass all factory ecu security codes (im awaiting my updated software from another secret source :badgrin: ) but be warned YOU do lose the factory immobiliser (although most people wouldnt even know) BUT the factory alram setup still works fine

Hey Jason,Can Mr Knight bypass the 2005 TW magna VRX ECU then??,wouldnt mind getting a bit more advance chucked in and a tune to suit 98 and my K & N and CAI

Steve

Hey Jason,Can Mr Knight bypass the 2005 TW magna VRX ECU then??,wouldnt mind getting a bit more advance chucked in and a tune to suit 98 and my K & N and CAI

Steve

He should be able to. He did my mates TW VRX AWD which had a ralliart engine and some other mods (derry is his name on the forums)

He should be able to. He did my mates TW VRX AWD which had a ralliart engine and some other mods (derry is his name on the forums)

Nice!,i might give him a bell sometime,does he have a landline aswell?

Steve

Nice!,i might give him a bell sometime,does he have a landline aswell?

Steve

Hi Steve
Had mine done Monday, PM me if you like
Al.

Who actually did the work on your car was it Steve himself or a guy called Stephen, good results tho.

Steve did the work MR.

This guy could organize a paid holiday around OZ, with all the guys that are prepared $$$ to get there ECU's retuned.

Why not post the ECU to him?

Why not post the ECU to him?

Just down load your ROM from the ECU.

Guide please.

talked to steve yesterday. it isnt possible to retune 380 ecu due to the bosch lock that bosch has programmed into it. just thought id let people know.

Guide please.

:stoopid:

Guide is simple, if you very serious about doing this then get on the phone, Zero i wouldnt be handing his number out to any joe blow on here, as i doubt he wants any dreamers ringing him for a 101.

Mr Knight is the only known person who can retune the stock ecu.

I am more wondering if he could change the shift pattern on an auto to make it a bit firmer.

What about a second gen? It's one of the most annoying things.

"I can remap mine now myself because i have the software/tool" Jasons-VRX

Thats common knowledge now.
Maybe you should try sharing "your info", thats what clubs are for .
Most of your posts seem to be you blowing your own horn.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE

"I can remap mine now myself because i have the software/tool" Jasons-VRX

Thats common knowledge now.
Maybe you should try sharing "your info", thats what clubs are for .
Most of your posts seem to be you blowing your own horn.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE

pretty sure it'd be of no use as everyone's factory ecu is locked.

Also he has helped alot of ppl out, so maybe you should tend to not have e-whines at valuable members so others can continue to use his knowledge.

Reading this thread it occurred to me there is no reason for this Steve guy not to teach everyone else how to do it.

Other than the fact that he wants to make money, of course.

So while every man and his dog can re-tune an XR6T or Commo, here we are at the Magna club still bickering internally.

Progress. I like it.

-Dan

Reading this thread it occurred to me there is no reason for this Steve guy not to teach everyone else how to do it.

Other than the fact that he wants to make money, of course.

So while every man and his dog can re-tune an XR6T or Commo, here we are at the Magna club still bickering internally.

Progress. I like it.

-Dan

Thats becuase we all bought cars that we knew had bugger all develoments available compared to the ford /holden boys,but thats never stopped most people,look at the manifolds,TB`s and supercharger kits etc that people have made/researched,but i also like having something different aswell to the mass amounts of commos fords and rice mobiles

As for steve Knight,he has the smarts being a ex mitsi man and the programs to do it,we dont,im happy to pay the man for his time and knowledge,would you trust yourself to tune a car?

Steve

Have you finished editing yet!

I don't need or want any of your info as I'm happy with a mild set up.
But there's a lot of people on here that could be saved a lot of wasted money if you builds are so good.
So what if you spent a lot of time and money, being a club member is about helping each other out, or why be a member?
so maybe you should try that instead of spending time thread jacking.
Dont send me anymore PM's until you open your PM's to people.

OH by the way have you posted any DYNO CHARTS?

I like this thread....is proving to be good reading by tonight. Subscribed!

People lets calm down, there is no need for this.
Lets get back on topic. :roll:

"I can remap mine now myself because i have the software/tool" Jasons-VRX

Thats common knowledge now.
Maybe you should try sharing "your info", thats what clubs are for .
Most of your posts seem to be you blowing your own horn.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE

Who the **** are you to pretend you are acting on the best interests of the "club". I can speak for many members here when I say that Jasons VRX has always been willing to share his knowledge when people who have actually done a little bit of research for themselves ask for his help.

Who the **** are you to pretend you are acting on the best interests of the "club". I can speak for many members here when I say that Jasons VRX has always been willing to share his knowledge when people who have actually done a little bit of research for themselves ask for his help.

Lets all just step back.

Zero i have erased my posts in your thread to help clean it up and keep it on track

OK then

Jasonsvrx has a very good reason why he keeps his ideas to himself, the main reason being that HE did all the work and HE did the R&D etc for it, he has every right to keep it to himself, also apart from maybe a dozen or so members on here, most people dont have the cash/time/skill to do the sort of work he has done, so just let him be, he does come in and chime in every now and again with useful info so we should be happy with that.


Zero, i really did think more of you until now.

Funny how for years Jason has been piddling into the wind trying to educate people and help them save money, encouraging them to select their components correctly for their application instead of market hype. Time and time again this wisdom goes unheeded, so it's little wonder he's stepped back his level of direct involvement. 12months after he slows down on AMC and MCA, people with big budgets still can't make the same power he has achieved and only then are they all ears to what he's been going blue in the face trying to tell us. Sadly too there is very little motors-open, hands-on techinical 3rd gen builds or work being done. Just lots of big talk and more threads about air filters and mufflers. So then how can he contribute if that's the level of club development.

Oh well. Our loss.

Funny how for years Jason has been piddling into the wind trying to educate people and help them save money, encouraging them to select their components correctly for their application instead of market hype. Time and time again this wisdom goes unheeded, so it's little wonder he's stepped back his level of direct involvement. 12months after he slows down on AMC and MCA, people with big budgets still can't make the same power he has achieved and only then are they all ears to what he's been going blue in the face trying to tell us. Sadly too there is very little motors-open, hands-on techinical 3rd gen builds or work being done. Just lots of big talk and more threads about air filters and mufflers. So then how can he contribute if that's the level of club development.

Oh well. Our loss.


I agree 100%

Jason has helped me with info many and many times and has also saved me alot of money with his advise, I can understand why he is stepping back from the club (prime example is you ZERO a new member to the club that has been here for less than a year) arguing with a member who has been on here for along time and has built some of the most powerful engines magna owners have ever seen.

Ian you are 100% correct in saying OUR LOSS

C`mon boys,no more crap stirring,they have shaken hands,non of our business anymore,and just remember though,its a public forum,people are allowed to question one another

Steve

I agree 100%

Jason has helped me with info many and many times and has also saved me alot of money with his advise, I can understand why he is stepping back from the club (prime example is you ZERO a new member to the club that has been here for less than a year) arguing with a member who has been on here for along time and has built some of the most powerful engines magna owners have ever seen.

Ian you are 100% correct in saying OUR LOSS
Just because someone is new, does not mean they are stupid ;) Not singling this case out, but if say, Jasons VRX Just joined up, would you still give him the respect you do now? even though he would be classed as new?

Leave it alone. 4 people in a row beating a dead horse. Why is this topic still open?

Even though I get sick and tired of people posting in a thread when they think a it should be closed, after evaluating this one I can concur that it seems to serve no further purpose.

What you choose to contribute to the club is purely up to you, and you alone... you usually find that people are generally very giving here even though they have invested a lot of their time and money.

Try not to be too judgmental of each other and please contact one of the mods if you feel things are getting out of hand.

Cheers.