why do all magnas have to have this sony product ? its weird.

today i called a well known sight and sound store and asked about the $600 special

how much to install , could it be done this afternoon etc.

how much cheaper . without the back speakers as we already have bigger stronger ones.

he told us to take the car there and he would check it out and work out a price including fitting etc


by the time we got there the price had leapt to $1500 and it couldnt be done until next week .

needless to say , we drove away with our existing stereo ..

Try to lean away from Sony for mobile audio, they have great home entertainment products and such, but struggle with car audio as there are brands out there that ONLY produce car audio. With Sony, they have other things to worry about.

:stoopid:

sony have heaps of good products but they don't measure up quite so well against other brands in the same price bracket...

+1

stear away from sony

sony make good stuff
but not when it comes to cars :doubt:

My system is almost all sony...

300w 6x9 Rears $95
190w 6" Fronts $70
1300w 12" sub in genuine sony ported box $160
MEX-R1 DVD HU $160
Kenwood 350w bridged 2chan amp $95
Wiring kit $70

Total - $650


For under $700 you can't really complain about the quality, since most of the sony stuff is cheaper - It's quite decent value.

I haven't had any troubles with the system, I put a cheap $300 HU/speaker set in my gfs car too. She loves it.

If you're on a low budget and want something entry level, I'd recommend it. But if you're after quality, you have to be willing to spend money.

Sony makes plenty of fantastic car audio gear... anything that doesnt have an Xplod logo on it. good luck finding some :)

hahaha i am slowly getting rid f my sony gear, but its not a bad system, but then again im not a huge audio person.

I bought ' last seasons' audio gear at a competitive price without comprimising quality. I went for Pioneer/ alpine gear. It also pays to look at the catalogues with the audio stores so you don't get sold display stock that costs a fortune. Hope that helps, Aaron.

I've got a Sony headunit, its fantastic, but I wouldn't go beyond that in my stereo lol

i was going to go sony xplode for my sub without haggling the price was down 200 for the 1400 watt sub i listen to people here who know and i went alpine R splits, 6x9's & sub it costs a little more but its so worth it even if you just go type S, my R gear set me back under 1k without amps/head unit it doest sound that loud till the wife trys to talk to me and all i see is her lips movin :D im verry happy i went down the path i did

I have an XAV-W1 (Paid $770, or half RRP), and it's great.

Onboard DD and DTS decoding, and it plays SACDs (of which I have heaps).

I like multichannel audio in the car, and I'm not aware of any other car audio units that will play SACDs.

Rest of my system will be Focal speakers and Audison amps.

I think those package deals are great BUT in order to actually keep costs down (as you said after installation was $1500) I would see if any mates can help you install it.
For the $500-$600 odd It's a good all in one, one stop shop approach to a not bad system, that said, its a basic setup and thats all it will ever be.

And yes I will never own something Sony in my car :P

My system is almost all sony...

300w 6x9 Rears $95
190w 6" Fronts $70
1300w 12" sub in genuine sony ported box $160
MEX-R1 DVD HU $160
Kenwood 350w bridged 2chan amp $95
Wiring kit $70

Total - $650


For under $700 you can't really complain about the quality, since most of the sony stuff is cheaper - It's quite decent value.

I haven't had any troubles with the system, I put a cheap $300 HU/speaker set in my gfs car too. She loves it.

If you're on a low budget and want something entry level, I'd recommend it. But if you're after quality, you have to be willing to spend money.
I BET THAT SOUNDS AWESOME

It'd be better than stock at the very least and if he's happy with it thats the main thing. But it is a BUDGET system.

My system is almost all sony...

300w 6x9 Rears $95
190w 6" Fronts $70
1300w 12" sub in genuine sony ported box $160
MEX-R1 DVD HU $160
Kenwood 350w bridged 2chan amp $95
Wiring kit $70

Total - $650


For under $700 you can't really complain about the quality, since most of the sony stuff is cheaper - It's quite decent value.

I haven't had any troubles with the system, I put a cheap $300 HU/speaker set in my gfs car too. She loves it.

If you're on a low budget and want something entry level, I'd recommend it. But if you're after quality, you have to be willing to spend money.

Why are you quoting all the MAX values?
Those 6x9's would be about 80W, the fronts about 40W and that sub would be about 300W.
Also you need a better amp. a small amp like that is only going to give you all bass and no focals.
lol @ luke

sony tell you the problem in there name sony XPLODE and they cant even spell it right. kinda like how ford right the problem and then circle it hehe.

Sony make some ok (not good) home stereo products. but there car audio sucks, poor quality sound for your money, low power output and about as unreliable as they come. Yes i know some people have had it in there car for years and never had a problem, BUT for the amount they well to the amount that breaks down its higher then any other major car audio brand.

Ok so i think we've established to steer clear from sony. How about pioneer? Thoughts?

Ok so i think we've established to steer clear from sony. How about pioneer? Thoughts?

I'm actually fairly pleased with Pioneer. In one of my older cars I had just the head unit, so in the latest car i'm going for Pioneer everything. Front and back, top to bottom. The build quality is great and the sound quality seems to reflect that (just going by what was in my old car here).

Good chance i'll be mistaken and my opinion debunked but hey, asked for thoughts, you got thoughts. lol

pioneer is a very good product in the value for money market. if you are workin on a budget i would definatly consider pioneer, or in the last few years i have become very fond of jvc for budget build ups. if you stick ith either of them you should geta good system for ya bucks

pioneer is a very good product in the value for money market. if you are workin on a budget i would definatly consider pioneer, or in the last few years i have become very fond of jvc for budget build ups. if you stick ith either of them you should geta good system for ya bucks
JVC make some of the best bang for buck HU's in the lower range spec.
Cruiser - I just wont buy pioneer because I'm sick of seeing Muzteks buy Pioneer for the simple fact that It's......Pioneer..."Omg bro I got a whole pioneer system because pioneer is sick!" Yeah nah Its not THAT sick.
Don't just stick to one brand because they make one nice component. I.e. My system comprises of JVC, Boston acoustics, JBL, Response, Stinger, and Soundstream.

']JVC make some of the best bang for buck HU's in the lower range spec.
Cruiser - I just wont buy pioneer because I'm sick of seeing Muzteks buy Pioneer for the simple fact that It's......Pioneer..."Omg bro I got a whole pioneer system because pioneer is sick!" Yeah nah Its not THAT sick.
Don't just stick to one brand because they make one nice component. I.e. My system comprises of JVC, Boston acoustics, JBL, Response, Stinger, and Soundstream.

I thought you said you wouldnt toucha sony........... JVC is sony LOL a mate told me this after i got one but i must say my 600 sony head unit to the new 198 supercheap JVC, JVC has a better sound i feel but yes i would take a pioneer unit anyday now i just gotta sell these two

JVC is NOT sony, who told you that? they arnt jione din anyway. and there car audio is very differant

And the war begins...

I have nearly a full sony system at tho moment (except the mono block) and have been fairly happy with it for value. It's been problem free for a year now, and still going strong. I am aware it's not the best, and I definately can notice the difference to better brands. I will be upgrading rear speakers to pioneer or clarion within the next few months, and the rest will eventually follow.

And MattyB, Thoughts on pioneer. I've never experienced anything bad about pioneer, my mate has a full pioneer system in his TR and it sounds excellent. At audio stores nobody has said anything bad about poineer, usually they tell me its a good value product, not as good as your $$MANY$$ speakers, but good quality.

Cheers,
-Matt.

I've got a sony head unit, got it at a great price with some sony dollars through work, It cost me $250 for the headunit with usb and blutooth. Does the job well, i wouldnt get sony speakers though, infact, i wouldnt crossgrade over to any mainstream brand of speaker because they wouldnt be much better if at all the the speakers in my verada.

When i do look at speakers, they will be most likely eclipse (upper range, not entry level) as i had them in a previous car and they were awesome.

JVC is sony LOL a mate told me this after i got one

Your mate is either bull****ting you or has no idea what he's talking about. JVC and Sony are in no way related at all.

JVC headunits are very good for the money.

I have a nearly 4 year old KD-LH915 in my lancer with the KS-PD100 iPod adapter. It's been in 4 cars and hasn't missed a beat in that time.

One of the best head units I've ever owned.

Ok so i think we've established to steer clear from sony. How about pioneer? Thoughts?

im a big fan of pioneer, thats all i run

And the war begins...

I have nearly a full sony system at tho moment (except the mono block) and have been fairly happy with it for value. It's been problem free for a year now, and still going strong. I am aware it's not the best, and I definately can notice the difference to better brands. I will be upgrading rear speakers to pioneer or clarion within the next few months, and the rest will eventually follow.

And MattyB, Thoughts on pioneer. I've never experienced anything bad about pioneer, my mate has a full pioneer system in his TR and it sounds excellent. At audio stores nobody has said anything bad about poineer, usually they tell me its a good value product, not as good as your $$MANY$$ speakers, but good quality.

Cheers,
-Matt.
probably because they want you too buy it as they make alot of money on it.
I dont listen to dude's at stores, I do the research myself and decide on an exact model. From my research, If you look around, You will spend as much as you did on that "all pioneer" system and have a much better sounding one.

but hey whatever

']Why are you quoting all the MAX values?
Those 6x9's would be about 80W, the fronts about 40W and that sub would be about 300W.
Also you need a better amp. a small amp like that is only going to give you all bass and no focals.
lol @ luke

easy, I cbf finding the RMS values :P Whatevers on the box will do, you can figure the rest out yourself :bowrofl:

Sony get a lot more **** than they deserve in the car audio market. A lot of their older stuff was rubbish, and it built them a bad reputation amongst many which they've not overcome. For the price you pay, you'd be hard pressed to get anything that sounds better from the other mainstream brands (eg. Pioneer, Kenwood, JVC, Clarion) without spending more.

When we updated the stereo in the TR we used all Sony gear simply because it was cheap, and I'll be the first to admit it doesn't sound the best, but for $190 worth of audio gear, you'll be hard pressed to make it better. When I bought the Sony headunit that's now in my car that was on the basis of it being the best value for money headunit on the shelf, as well as being one of the most straight forward and easy to use units and I don't regret buying it one bit. I've got Focal Polyglass components currently running straight off it and I've had several people surprised by what comes out of them without an Amp. Its one of the very best headunits in its class I've used.

I'm not being biased either, I used to have all Pioneer gear in my old car, I've used JVC decks, Clarion decks, Alpine decks and Soundstream decks, and none of them shine above the Sony for quality or functionality. No doubt when I eventually get that Rockford amp wired up it'll sound a bit better though :P

I've got a sony head unit. Its got aux in, bluetooth all the stuff I wanted and haven't had any issues with it at all. very simple to pair phones etc and the clarity is good from both ends.

Sony get a lot more **** than they deserve in the car audio market. A lot of their older stuff was rubbish, and it built them a bad reputation amongst many which they've not overcome.P

Sony's old stuff kicked ass :P

Sony's old stuff kicked ass :P
yeah exaclty their old stuff is 10000x better than their new stuff....

meh my alpine 9887 for $350 is epic win x 1.5

Does the job well, i wouldnt get sony speakers though, infact, i wouldnt crossgrade over to any mainstream brand of speaker because they wouldnt be much better if at all the the speakers in my verada.

Make of this post what you will.....

If your speakers are stock, than chances are I know of just about any brand that is better than your speakers. Factory speakers are built to a price, not to a sound quality level (few top end manufacturers are exception to this rule).

Make of this post what you will.....

If your speakers are stock, than chances are I know of just about any brand that is better than your speakers. Factory speakers are built to a price, not to a sound quality level (few top end manufacturers are exception to this rule).

bro. 15WRMS FTW!!

Europox FTL!

Make of this post what you will.....

If your speakers are stock, than chances are I know of just about any brand that is better than your speakers. Factory speakers are built to a price, not to a sound quality level (few top end manufacturers are exception to this rule).

I suppose i could buy a set of 1000w pmpo kenwood speakers for $72 to replace them, alternativly, i could just put socks between my current speakers and the speaker grill. Perhaps a set of cheap pioneer speakers? that way ill have really good midrange and treble.
If you bothered to read the second half of my post, you'd see that i've said "When i do look at speakers, they will be most likely eclipse (upper range, not entry level) as i had them in a previous car and they were awesome."
Meaning, i dont see the value in going for a cheap alternative.

You do know that wattage isnt the be all and end all with speakers? The wattage describes how much power they draw, which is relevant to how loud they go, not how good they sound. Next time your in qld, send me a pm and come have a listen.

ive got an Xplode Head unit in my car, and i have 6 inch Sonys on the front

ive got an Xplode Head unit in my car, and i have 6 inch Sonys on the front

Did they come in a box package - basic red/chrome mp3 head unit? If so I installed the same one in my gfs festiva :P

I suppose i could buy a set of 1000w pmpo kenwood speakers for $72 to replace them, alternativly, i could just put socks between my current speakers and the speaker grill. Perhaps a set of cheap pioneer speakers? that way ill have really good midrange and treble.
If you bothered to read the second half of my post, you'd see that i've said "When i do look at speakers, they will be most likely eclipse (upper range, not entry level) as i had them in a previous car and they were awesome."
Meaning, i dont see the value in going for a cheap alternative.

You do know that wattage isnt the be all and end all with speakers? The wattage describes how much power they draw, which is relevant to how loud they go, not how good they sound. Next time your in qld, send me a pm and come have a listen.

No drama's, I'll drive up and you can also have a listen.

why do all magnas have to have this sony product ? its weird.
Eh?? WTH?

']Cruiser - I just wont buy pioneer because I'm sick of seeing Muzteks buy Pioneer for the simple fact that It's......Pioneer..."Omg bro I got a whole pioneer system because pioneer is sick!" Yeah nah Its not THAT sick.
Don't just stick to one brand because they make one nice component. I.e. My system comprises of JVC, Boston acoustics, JBL, Response, Stinger, and Soundstream.

Fully understand where you're coming from there. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy them just for the brand name. Pioneer is however just a particular brand that i've had exceptional success with in the past and to this day, still do have success with in all of their components. I admit that i'm a nut for unity (I like to keep entire systems from single manufacturers) but if I didn't think it wasn't going to get the job done well, I wouldn't have gone for Pioneer at all.

I wonder why they called them 'Xplode..' ;) :P

I thought you said you wouldnt toucha sony........... JVC is sony LOL a mate told me this after i got one but i must say my 600 sony head unit to the new 198 supercheap JVC, JVC has a better sound i feel but yes i would take a pioneer unit anyday now i just gotta sell these two
Your mate is an ignorant fool.
JVC and Sony are rival companies (and have been for over 50 years) they are not related in any way shape or form, and never have been.
Sometimes in certain segments you may find certain buttons or something may look the same, and that's because they may share the same button supplier (such as Ford & holden have used the same light fittings in their cars in the past) but this by no way means they are the same car.. or same product.

Man the ignorance of people astounds me.. but not just the people who say these things, but the people who believe it!

I suppose i could buy a set of 1000w pmpo kenwood speakers for $72 to replace them, alternativly, i could just put socks between my current speakers and the speaker grill. Perhaps a set of cheap pioneer speakers? that way ill have really good midrange and treble.
If you bothered to read the second half of my post, you'd see that i've said "When i do look at speakers, they will be most likely eclipse (upper range, not entry level) as i had them in a previous car and they were awesome."
Meaning, i dont see the value in going for a cheap alternative.
Sony speakers sound better than the stock Verada ones, sorry but they do lol Eclipse is an interesting choice of speaker brand too to update too, I've never really considered them good value compared to what else you can get for their money. Eclipse amps are good, but their speakers? Not for what you pay in my humble opinion.

Sony speakers sound better than the stock Verada ones, sorry but they do lol Eclipse is an interesting choice of speaker brand too to update too, I've never really considered them good value compared to what else you can get for their money. Eclipse amps are good, but their speakers? Not for what you pay in my humble opinion.

Dont know if anyone can confirm, but you'd think there may have been an upgrade in speakers since the te/ke?

Eclipse are very good value for money, as long as you look around when the sales are on and push the dealers hard. Most eclipse dealers are generally exclusive in their reigon eg; maroochy car sound, which means the margin is high and there is a fair amount of play in the pricing.

And i personally dont think i would find a better sound by simply replacing my speakers to a mainstream brand at around $150/pr. no amps, subs, dynamat, better cables, just headunit and speakers. as i said before, its not about loud, and its not about rms, its about a decent mix of bass/mid/treble.

Dont know if anyone can confirm, but you'd think there may have been an upgrade in speakers since the te/ke?
Yeah theres been a couple of changes, the door pod tweeters and 2-way 6x9"s, but I'm not comparing the stock stereo that was in my car, I've spent plenty of time in KJ's and I know they're a good stereo for stock, but without a doubt nearly any brand name, Sony included sounds better. Omar's KJ is one of the best back to back I've heard, when he replaced the stock speakers with Pioneer speakers there was quite a remarkable difference, and they're no flashy Pioneer speakers either, basically just your kick of variants.

Hell the JVC's that are currently in the rear of my car that I spent a whole $10 on sound heaps better than any stock 6x9 I've heard in a magna/verada.

I promise you that if you spend your proposed $150 a pair on new speakers on your car to run off a headunit with no extras at all (eg sound deadening, amps) you will get better sound. Most people I know with Verada's have been stubborn when people tell them that, but they all agree when they hear the difference. Don't need to tell the majority of us about it not being all about loud and rms, personally I've got Focal components which are rated at 75w rms but they'll blow the pants of many speakers with double the power rating for quality, and as it stands they're running off the headunit alone!

I kinda like the Sony Xplodes - bought a TS V6 cheaply with one in it. Wiring and speakers needed sorting, 6 X 9 s in the back, 4 s in the doors and it sounds good. All up cost $60 for eBay speakers. I was impressed enough to duplicate the system in my other Magna, also sourced from eBay, as cheap as possible.
You don't need to spend thousands to get a reasonable/adequate sound systerm in a Magna.
You miss out on bluetooth, USB and mp3 with the older decks, but I have an Ipod touch with FM transmitter - works well.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Your mate is an ignorant fool.
JVC and Sony are rival companies (and have been for over 50 years) they are not related in any way shape or form, and never have been.
Sometimes in certain segments you may find certain buttons or something may look the same, and that's because they may share the same button supplier (such as Ford & holden have used the same light fittings in their cars in the past) but this by no way means they are the same car.. or same product.

Man the ignorance of people astounds me.. but not just the people who say these things, but the people who believe it!

Well im ****en sorry. He has had over 20 years in these products but hey you sure know alot, so you must have sum idea

DRUMROLL . . . . . Let the war of words begin!

Well im ****en sorry. He has had over 20 years in these products but hey you sure know alot, so you must have sum idea

Righty is well, right.

JVC and Sony are two seperate companies. Thats why both are listed on stock exchanges, have seperate offices, and have seperate manufacturing plants.

As for your mate, just ask him how he knows this.

Righty is well, right.

JVC and Sony are two seperate companies. Thats why both are listed on stock exchanges, have seperate offices, and have seperate manufacturing plants.

As for your mate, just ask him how he knows this.

He is not a mate mate that i see like every day he's a once in a blue moon guy. I have just googled this and he is on the right track as Sony and JVC have to become sharing partners in there crap

The only thing I've found is Sony has licenced a file format to JVC?

He is not a mate mate that i see like every day he's a once in a blue moon guy. I have just googled this and he is on the right track as Sony and JVC have to become sharing partners in there crap

Yeah bit like Holden and Ford.

Who cares what brand name is on a component, it's how well it performs it's task vs price.

He is not a mate mate that i see like every day he's a once in a blue moon guy. I have just googled this and he is on the right track as Sony and JVC have to become sharing partners in there crap
Trust me on this, Sony & JVC are affiliated in no way, shape or form.