Hi guys, just after a little advice on my tyres, as you can see by the pics the inside shoulder is stuffed, the tyres are probably 2 years old and would be lucky to have done 15000kms on the front end. they are a maxxis victa ma-z1 and were alligned mid way last year. Any recommendatations as i am sick of going through tyres prematurely.
thanx KevO
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Only thing i can think of that would help is to rotate them every 5000k's or so.

regular alignments and rotations FTW.

that looks like it might be scrubbing on something, though. I've never seen a road tyre do that when most of the tread is comparatively OK. how much negative camber do you have?

It looks like its got even wear across the tread. It might have been damaged when you drove over something, like corrugated iron or sharp unsealed road sholders etc. A mate of mine got one of his tyres threaded and wheels dented when he went to overtake another car about to turn right. He did not realise that section of the road had unsealed sholders, so the jagged edged bitumen did a lot of damage.

I'm not sure what camber i'm running on it but it actually looks like the corner of the tyre is worn away.doubt i'd be able to claim warranty or anything?? i've taken a corner or 2 with speed but come on i live out west and get excited if there is even the slightest kink in the road and i try not to punish them. I'd just hate to put another set of tyres on and go through this again in 2 years when i get another 10000 ks on them. maybe it's just me but 3 sets of tyres for the front end and just ticked over 50k doesn't seem right
and to add to my happy mood this morning the triton had a flat also :rant:
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I take it this is the same tyre as in the first post? so inside is on the left?

that doesn't look like negative camber issues to me. it looks like something has chopped up the sidewall. the wear indicators look to be fairly even, and the outside shoulder is worn in a typical fashion for our cars.

I would check clearance on full steering lock. I reckon you're scrubbing on something.

I still reckon he drove over something which caused the damage. If it was rubbing on something in the wheel well then the damage should be uniform (all around the circumferance) instead of just a small section of it.

yeah i did hit a pot hole last week on the rhs but the left is also worn, just not as badly. had a good look but can't see where it is rubbing and can't say that i've heard it either

Unless the is slight buckle in the rim or bulge in the tyre, they shouldn't normally scrub they are only 225's. I wonder what is the offset of the rim?

By the way, thats the left front, isn't it?

Edit: with the wheel back on the car, does the shape of the wear to the worn side of the tyre match the shape of the control arm?

i reckon its bad offset, and the inside rubbing against the upper control arm. Have a feel around the inside of the tyre at the top when the wheel is on. Mine is damn close on vrx 17s and 235 wide tyres

i can't read it from here, but what the load rating on the tyre??

i've noticed that my 90 rated 20's don't really like being on the front of the verada.. the rear is fine.. but the fronts not so happy wear seems to be a problem, i suspect this is due to the inadiquate load rating.. but i'm only geussing

i can't read it from here, but what the load rating on the tyre??

i've noticed that my 90 rated 20's don't really like being on the front of the verada.. the rear is fine.. but the fronts not so happy wear seems to be a problem, i suspect this is due to the inadiquate load rating.. but i'm only geussing

Inadequate and quite illegal.

i reckon its bad offset, and the inside rubbing against the upper control arm. Have a feel around the inside of the tyre at the top when the wheel is on. Mine is damn close on vrx 17s and 235 wide tyres

The gap between the tyre and the control arm does not change. I've only got 5mm space between my tyre and arm. As I mentioned again. Any constant rubbing will show signs of wear all round the tyre and not a section of it unless you sit there and constantly rock it back and forth.

unless he is running an really narrow offset, in which case the tyre will most certainly be closer to the control arm

unless he is running an really narrow offset, in which case the tyre will most certainly be closer to the control arm
Fail reading FTW. Even if the offset is incorrect, and the tyres are rubbing, they would be rubbing all the way round, not just in one spot.

Its not a fail reading, maybe the tyre had a very slight bulge in one side, causing that to rub against the arm and not all of it :nuts:

I'm just gonna go ahead and shut up. I left my LARGE shovel back in the last argument i had

I reckon you have a point by looking at the photos Cyber, there seems to be wear all the way around, and uneven road could have torn that tyre anywhere in the weakened area. All of the inside edge looks to have, like a chamfer taken off the edge. We need to see the clearance on the other tyre too.

BTW, thats just what it looks like.

That's definitely impact damage and not normal wear. The even wear across the width of the tyre says camber etc is spot on. Try a tyre with a less aggressive tread pattern, from a well known brand and rotate at 5,000km intervals. Should get 20K from the front and 40K from the rear, or 30K all round if rotated, without trying too hard.

According to Motor's last tyre test, the MA-Z1 is meant to be a very good tyre. I tend to agree, I ran this tyre for a few months on the front and was very impressed with grip. On very hot days they would tend to let go quite easily though.

I'm just gonna go ahead and shut up. I left my LARGE shovel back in the last argument i had
Nah mate, nothing wrong with adding to the discussion!

MAZ-1 are a good tyre. I would buy them before anything Pirelli make.

Yeah I had garages trying to shift Pirelli Dragos onto me when looking for tyres. After driving a Hyundai Lantra with them, I wouldnt ever go near them again. Just spirited driving was enough to cause large chunks of the outer block to break away.

Yeah I had garages trying to shift Pirelli Dragos onto me when looking for tyres. After driving a Hyundai Lantra with them, I wouldnt ever go near them again. Just spirited driving was enough to cause large chunks of the outer block to break away.
My mum has Pirelli P6 on her Hyundai Elantra, and honestly, they're fine as a general tyre. But a performance tyre, they're not.

I can see 2 things:

1. Local delamination caused by manufacturing fault or physical impact (edge of pot hole).

2. Slight wear on the inside section, some 3 cm wide. Caused by excessive neg camber. Prob is, where to find a reliable wheel alignmnet place to tell u real readings. Keep neg camber around 1-1,5 deg. Close to 4 and u'll wear them bad. Been there....
Front requires adjustable camber bolts, but rear can be adjusted with exicisting standard system.
Tyre rotation always helps, even with correct alignment.

when i get a chance i'll have a good look underneath. what i think i will do is buy some cheap crappy tyres of flebay for the time being until the problem has been solved. Yeah i know what your thinking don't get cheap tyres but as it is i'm lucky to get 10~15k km out of the maxxis so why not get some cheapies, fix the problem, and if all is well go back to the maxxis. the only prob will be finding someone who can fix it out west.?? (i am willing to travel to dubbo area if anyone could suggest a good tyre place)

KevO