I'm up for tyres on the VRX. 225/50 R17. Could anyone out there shed some light on the experiences with tyres on there Magna/Vrx. I'm happy for medium range types. Currently has Bridgestone Grid II. Happy to go with them again or is there something out there I should know about.

Also do i have to stick with that exact tyre size?

Thanks in advance

Hey, yes I would stick to 225/50/17.
No point going to 215/55/17, which funnily enough, is standard fare on the 380 SX/VRX/GT...oh, and Platinum too.

I believe that 235/45/17 has a lower overall rolling radius.

Have look, check out the Toyo Transas Teo (or may be replaced by the Teo PLUS now) range for a good tyre, quiet, good grip, good mileage, and reasonably priced.

Definatley keep to the 225/50R17s.. I know it limits your choice in tyres and bumps the price up a bit, but 235 are a little too wide IMO..

I put Goodyear Eagle F1 DS-G3's on the ralliart when i had it.. they were a good tyre, plenty of grip, especially in the wet and pretty quiet.. They werent the cheapest though (i think around $320 each) but that was back in early 06 now.. They were the best recommendation i got everywhere i asked at the time..

Definatley keep to the 225/50R17s.. I know it limits your choice in tyres and bumps the price up a bit, but 235 are a little too wide IMO..

I put Goodyear Eagle F1 DS-G3's on the ralliart when i had it.. they were a good tyre, plenty of grip, especially in the wet and pretty quiet.. They werent the cheapest though (i think around $320 each) but that was back in early 06 now.. They were the best recommendation i got everywhere i asked at the time..

Yeah i have the exact same tyre, its a shame though as they are no longer made in aus, they are an awesome tyre though

i am sure you could still find the eagles in that size if you looked around. The new eagle asyms are meant to be great too . . .

Bridgestone ER300 is my tip,had them for 20,000kms, sticks like **** to a blanket wet or dry and not noisy or hard riding,check them out

i am sure you could still find the eagles in that size if you looked around. The new eagle asyms are meant to be great too . . .

You can still get them, but they are now imports unless they are old stock.

Definatley keep to the 225/50R17s.. I know it limits your choice in tyres and bumps the price up a bit, but 235 are a little too wide IMO..

I put Goodyear Eagle F1 DS-G3's on the ralliart when i had it.. they were a good tyre, plenty of grip, especially in the wet and pretty quiet.. They werent the cheapest though (i think around $320 each) but that was back in early 06 now.. They were the best recommendation i got everywhere i asked at the time..

Woah...$320 each for 17" tyres? i payed less for tyres on my 19's. Are they not a common size or something?

Ive got 235's on my VRX and they work great. Kuhmo Ecsta SPT's.

Why is it a bad idea to go 235?

Woah...$320 each for 17" tyres? i payed less for tyres on my 19's. Are they not a common size or something?

Its because they are a decent tyre, one of the best on the market infact.

I'm up for tyres on the VRX. 225/50 R17. Could anyone out there shed some light on the experiences with tyres on there Magna/Vrx. I'm happy for medium range types. Currently has Bridgestone Grid II. Happy to go with them again or is there something out there I should know about.

Also do i have to stick with that exact tyre size?

Thanks in advance
Stick with 225/50/17. Personally I'd get some MAXXIS i-Pro or Bridgestone Potenza RE001.

Its because they are a decent tyre, one of the best on the market infact.

Amen. I got 2 fitted at Beaurepaires for $480, so they came down a lot in price. They are 235/45/r17's

Also consider the new Bridgestone Adrenalin tyre, also meant to be a stand-out. but again its around $220 a corner

Let me say this again. 235 wide tyres are illegal on 7" rims and the reason 225/50 R17 tyres are expensive is because they have a smaller market demand. No many cars besides magnas runs them. It would be cheaper if you run 225/55R17 tyres and get your speedo checked for accuracy. 225/55R17 is the standard fitment to Holden's 17" wheels and they are cheaper than 225/50R17. Similar problems were faced by and are still faced by Mazda 626/6 and Ford Telsta drivers having 205/55R15 tyres which in australia, besides them, no other cars use.

Let me say this again. 235 wide tyres are illegal on 7" rims and the reason 225/50 R17 tyres are expensive is because they have a smaller market demand. No many cars besides magnas runs them. It would be cheaper if you run 225/55R17 tyres and get your speedo checked for accuracy. 225/55R17 is the standard fitment to Holden's 17" wheels and they are cheaper than 225/50R17. Similar problems were faced by and are still faced by Mazda 626/6 and Ford Telsta drivers having 205/55R15 tyres which in australia, besides them, no other cars use.

So there aren't too many drawbacks to getting the slightly higher profile tyre?

So there aren't too many drawbacks to getting the slightly higher profile tyre?

No. For my AWD, I've got less room between the tyres and the front control arm but have not have any scraps in normal driving. On occasions, when fully locking during parking manouvres, I get a slight scraping. My speedo now underestimates about 1km/hr at 100km/hr compared to the GPS, no big deal. When I had 225/50R17 tyres, being smaller than OEM, the speedo was 3km/hr under that of the GPS at 100km/hr.

Bridgestone ER300 is my tip,had them for 20,000kms, sticks like **** to a blanket wet or dry and not noisy or hard riding,check them out

+1 for Bridgestone ER300. I have 225/55 R16 on my AWD, excellent improvement over OEM 215/60 R16. Cost $180 per corner.

Let me say this again. 235 wide tyres are illegal on 7" rims and the reason 225/50 R17 tyres are expensive is because they have a smaller market demand. No many cars besides magnas runs them. It would be cheaper if you run 225/55R17 tyres and get your speedo checked for accuracy. 225/55R17 is the standard fitment to Holden's 17" wheels and they are cheaper than 225/50R17. Similar problems were faced by and are still faced by Mazda 626/6 and Ford Telsta drivers having 205/55R15 tyres which in australia, besides them, no other cars use.

Is that illegal from an ADR point of view?

+1 for Bridgestone ER300. I have 225/55 R16 on my AWD, excellent improvement over OEM 215/60 R16. Cost $180 per corner.
I just got the exact same tyre for my TL, but cost me $199 per tyre! Good tyre tho - very quiet and ride well. Wouldn't know about performance wise.

Try Hankook. I have the Optimo and they are really quiet. I would not boast on its grip, but it is better than average. If you want more aggressive tyres, try the hankook V8RS. They handle better but makes just a little more noise.

Is that illegal from an ADR point of view?

Yes and any respectable tyre retailer won't put 235s on 7" wide rims. You need a minimum of 7.5".

Yes and any respectable tyre retailer won't put 235s on 7" wide rims. You need a minimum of 7.5".

Dead set I went to 8 different tyre dealerships in sutherland area, and each one of them quoted me on fitting the 235's to a 7" rim. I even asked each one if a tyre that wide is safe for a 7" rim and each of them said it was fine

Yes and any respectable tyre retailer won't put 235s on 7" wide rims. You need a minimum of 7.5".

the range of a 235 is a minimum 7 reccomended 7.5, you can fit them fine. Hell i have 235's on my car atm with zero scrubbage etc etc

I'm up for tyres on the VRX. 225/50 R17. Could anyone out there shed some light on the experiences with tyres on there Magna/Vrx. I'm happy for medium range types. Currently has Bridgestone Grid II. Happy to go with them again or is there something out there I should know about.

Also do i have to stick with that exact tyre size?

Thanks in advance
Im in the process of deciding for my car also.
You can decide between comfort or sport. I suggest, if you want something similar to what you have then either of these two will do...225/50R17

http://www.bridgestone.com.au/lib/images/treads/threequartermini/Turanza_ER300.jpg (http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/treads/er300.aspx) Bridgestone ER300 - Comfort
(http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/treads/er300.aspx)

http://www.bridgestone.com.au/lib/images/treads/threequartermini/Adrenalin_RE001.jpg (http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/treads/Adrenalin.aspx)

Bridgestone Adrenalin - Sport (http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/treads/Adrenalin.aspx)

But price between these two and from place to place will differ significantly.
(http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/treads/Adrenalin.aspx)

... the reason 225/50 R17 tyres are expensive is because they have a smaller market demand. No many cars besides magnas runs them. It would be cheaper if you run 225/55R17 tyres
Vlad, I'd have to disagree with you, looking at the latest catalog from B Jane shows 225/50/R17 cheaper by $10 than the 225/55/R17. $259 vs $269 :D, but I guess these prices vary between all tyre places. These are for ER300s.

234/45/R17 tyres are common as anything.. but they have the wrong load rating for the 7" wide rims that the magnas use, which means they are therefore illegal..

I had the Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE001's on my 18s i had on my commodore.. they were a good tyre IMO, but at the time i didnt realise the good reputation these tyres had and I traded 4 semi decent ones in (including 4 18" SS wheels) to *******ing bob jane for $280 :rant: Really wish i had of kept them now!!

but yeah, Eagle F1 DS-G3's or Adrenalin RE001's are my first 2 choices..

234/45/R17 tyres are common as anything.. but they have the wrong load rating for the 7" wide rims that the magnas use, which means they are therefore illegal..


Bridgestone Adrenalin (235/45R17) are rated at 94V....i,e, there good to go for Magnas..... But this size is not available in the RE050 or ER300.

I wouldn't touch the Goodyear Eagle F1's with a barge pole. Horrible, yucky tyre.

havw a look at toyo proxes h4. they were around $200 each when i got mine.

I wouldn't touch the Goodyear Eagle F1's with a barge pole. Horrible, yucky tyre.

:bowrofl:

I wouldn't touch the Goodyear Eagle F1's with a barge pole. Horrible, yucky tyre.

the eagle F1's or the F1 DS-G3's?

and why? :confused:

the eagle F1's or the F1 DS-G3's?

and why? :confused:
Any of the above. They're an average tyre, and horribly overpriced. The problem is they're very old now, and companies like MAXXIS and Bridgestone make better tyres for less money.

I beg to differ that remark Disciple. They are a massive improvement over the MAXXIS Z1's I had before. Wet grip is quite frankly, unbelievable.

I beg to differ that remark Disciple. They are a massive improvement over the MAXXIS Z1's I had before. Wet grip is quite frankly, unbelievable.
Yeah, and the MAXXIS MAZ-1 are old now too. They've been replaced with the i-Pro, which are better again than the F1's in the dry or wet, and only bettered by the Bridgestone Adrenaline RE001.

Motor's 2008 tyre test rated the GS-D3's as runner up to the Adrenalin. Must say something about how good this tyre is? Sure, it might have been around a while but that is only testament to what an excellent tyre this is.

I just got the exact same tyre for my TL, but cost me $199 per tyre! Good tyre tho - very quiet and ride well. Wouldn't know about performance wise.

I got quotes from two tyre dealers, for 5 tyres, to be placed on new rims. They didn't have to get rid of the old tyres, so it all helped sweeten the deal.

With respect to performance, the ER300s have never squealed or squirmed under any cornering conditions, bearing in mind the common sense limitations of driving on public roads. They are also supposed to be very good braking in the wet.

Motor's 2008 tyre test rated the GS-D3's as runner up to the Adrenalin. Must say something about how good this tyre is? Sure, it might have been around a while but that is only testament to what an excellent tyre this is.
The latest tyre test in MOTOR magazine featured the Bridgestone Adrenaline Potenza RE001, MAXXIS i-Pro, Goodyear Eagle F1, and a few other makes. The Bridgestone came in first, MAXXIS second and the Goodyear third.

Test 1 - Dry Slalom
1. Bridgestone Potenza Adrenalin RE001 13.1s
2. Dunlop Sp Sport Maxx 13.2s
3. Maxxis Victra i-pro 13.3s
4. Pirelli P Zero Nero 13.3s
5. Federal 595 Evo 13.4s
6. Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 13.4s
7. Continental Sportcontact 3 13.5s
8. Goodyear Eagle F1 13.6s

Test 3 - Dry Braking
1. B'stone Potenza 36.7m
2. Maxxis Victra 38.1m
3. Goodyear F1 38.3m


Test 5 - Lateral G Dry
1. Maxxis 1.01g
=2 Pirelli 1.00g
= Hankook
= Federal
=B'stone

Overall scores
1. B'stone
2. Maxxis
3. Goodyear

The Goodyear win the tests in the wet, but fall everywhere else. So I guess they're fine if you live in England...

true lol

I believe the Maxxis won on price point though? So for what they are at that price they cannot be ignored.

After re-reading the article, the tyres in that tyre test are not GS-D3's, they are the new F1 ASYM's my mistake.

Lap time put the Eagles in 3rd
Dry braking put it again in 3rd
Lateral G wet they pulled 1.04G's which EQUALS 2 of the semi-slick lateral G dry times :shock:

Remember the GS-D3 has a far more aggressive tread pattern that the ASYM's so can't really be compared.

But wet is usually where you need the extra traction anyways, im probably going to go for a set of falkens for the next lot of tyres (fortnight or so)

Vlad, I'd have to disagree with you, looking at the latest catalog from B Jane shows 225/50/R17 cheaper by $10 than the 225/55/R17. $259 vs $269 :D, but I guess these prices vary between all tyre places. These are for ER300s.

What is the load rating of the 225/50R17. I bet it is not at least 95. Add at least another $50.00 per tyre for 95+ load rated ones. They have XL stamped on the side.

Also, looking at all the tyre websites for 235/45R17, none of them has a min width of 7". They are all 7.5". However, 235/50R17, with the extra height sidewall has a min width of 7", however, 235/50R17 is almost double the price of 235/45R17 as only a couple of manufacturers make them available in Oz. Trust me. I've done a lot of research, ringing tyre places, visiting them and checking their websites etc. Finally decided on 225/55R17 tyres as they are cheap due to them being OEM GMH ones.

I tried to find this aussie website yesterday, and the absolute minimum rim width for a 235/45/17 tyre was 7". From a safety point of view, what are the potential issues running a 94 load rating rather than a 95?

What is the load rating of the 225/50R17. I bet it is not at least 95. Add at least another $50.00 per tyre for 95+ load rated ones. They have XL stamped on the side.

Also, looking at all the tyre websites for 235/45R17, none of them has a min width of 7". They are all 7.5". However, 235/50R17, with the extra height sidewall has a min width of 7", however, 235/50R17 is almost double the price of 235/45R17 as only a couple of manufacturers make them available in Oz. Trust me. I've done a lot of research, ringing tyre places, visiting them and checking their websites etc. Finally decided on 225/55R17 tyres as they are cheap due to them being OEM GMH ones.

Dear Vlad,
The rating of the tyre is 94. That is the minimum that it required for the OP car. So my point still stands, your original statement was misleading, and pricing on the current B Jane catalog proves it. Remember we are not talking about your car but the OP's car. You made a generic statement which was not entirely true. My suggestion to the original OP for 225/50R17 are from my inquiries with Bridgestone (as Im in the market for new tyes and shopping around at the moment). And the ER300s are cheaper in this configuration than the 225/55 R17. And with all due respect, sorry I don't trust anyone I prefer to do my own research.

the range of a 235 is a minimum 7 reccomended 7.5, you can fit them fine. Hell i have 235's on my car atm with zero scrubbage etc etcMy sources say that minimum for a 235 is 7.5. This has been covered on AMC many times before; no one except your insurance assessor will notice if you've fitted 235 to a 7 inch rim; I honestly don't think it's worth the stress of having to put an insurance claim put into question because you were too cheap to pay more (ironically) for a smaller tyre.

I'm running Bridgestone RE001 Adrenalines 225/50 R17s and they're great; note they are about $255 a tyre.