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Dave
20-01-2009, 06:39 AM
I have just had the Gearbox oil replaced by the Holden dealer, and subsequently disconnected the battery to reset the gearbox control unit. Now, under light throttle the engine surges maybe 500-1000rpm on upshifts. What can be the cause of this?

Lucifer
20-01-2009, 06:42 AM
I have just had the Gearbox oil replaced by the Holden dealer, and subsequently disconnected the battery to reset the gearbox control unit. Now, under light throttle the engine surges maybe 500-1000rpm on upshifts. What can be the cause of this?
Probably didn't use the legit Mitsubishi transmission fluid, different viscosity IIRC... I think I remember stories of members destroying gearboxes!

vlad
20-01-2009, 06:42 AM
I have just had the Gearbox oil replaced by the Holden dealer, and subsequently disconnected the battery to reset the gearbox control unit. Now, under light throttle the engine surges maybe 500-1000rpm on upshifts. What can be the cause of this?

Did they use the Mitsubishi Auto Transmission Oil. If not. I suggest you get them to flush what ever they put in and fill it with genuine Mitsu ones.

vlad
20-01-2009, 06:43 AM
Probably didn't use the legit Mitsubishi transmission fluid, different viscosity IIRC... I think I remember stories of members destroying gearboxes!

Doh. Beat me to it.

Dave
20-01-2009, 06:53 AM
Its going in on Tuesday to be looked at again. GOD DAMN CARS :rant: :rant:

Mrmacomouto
20-01-2009, 10:42 AM
Why the hell did you get it done at a holden dealer?

Disciple
20-01-2009, 10:49 AM
Why the hell did you get it done at a holden dealer?
:stoopid:

It needs the Mitsubishi auto trans fluid. Get it done at Mitsubishi.

Also, read this thread. Clicky. (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64108)

jzt
20-01-2009, 11:06 AM
Yes, in accordance with what has been said above --- The Magna automatic transmissions must have the Mitsubishi transmission fluid or else they will self-destruct.

The generic (Holden/Ford) tranny fluid is called "Dexron" or "Dexron-II" or something or other, and must not be used for Magnas.

The problem is that unless the mechanic knows that Mitsubishis use a specific type of fluid, they are more than likely just going to throw generic or Dexron stuff into the car.

Best way (before telling the mechanic that they've put the wrong fluid in) is to just ask an open question 'Just wondering what fluid you guys use for transmissions' in order to get a straight answer.

That's what I had to do with my KJ when the transmission was flushed by a non-Mitsubishi dealer.

Ended up paying for it to be redone at Mitsubishi at my own cost......selling dealer (non-Mitsubishi) wouldn't cough up as they reckoned the car was still running ok (after 2 days).

Life
20-01-2009, 11:19 AM
I have just had the Gearbox oil replaced by the Holden dealer, and subsequently disconnected the battery to reset the gearbox control unit. Now, under light throttle the engine surges maybe 500-1000rpm on upshifts. What can be the cause of this?

... Couldn't help yourself could you ;) Only just get it fixed (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64306)and you broke it again! :P

Dave
20-01-2009, 11:42 AM
It was done at Heartland Holden because that is who I bought the car from. If I do not take it to them for servicing every 6 months, then I invalidate my 3yr warranty. I like to be safe in the knowledge that if something fails badly, my warranty will kick in.

It turns out that they only topped up the gearbox oil. Is this just as bad? He couldnt honestly say what they would have used to top it up. Probably engine oil lol

Disciple
20-01-2009, 01:01 PM
It was done at Heartland Holden because that is who I bought the car from. If I do not take it to them for servicing every 6 months, then I invalidate my 3yr warranty. I like to be safe in the knowledge that if something fails badly, my warranty will kick in.

It turns out that they only topped up the gearbox oil. Is this just as bad? He couldnt honestly say what they would have used to top it up. Probably engine oil lol
3 year second hand dealer warranty? Might wanna actually look what that covers - sweet FA. lol.

Enjoy your gearbox self destructing.

Blue Lightning
20-01-2009, 01:28 PM
3 year second hand dealer warranty? Might wanna actually look what that covers - sweet FA. lol.

Enjoy your gearbox self destructing.

Those 3 year "extended warranties" are pretty useless they have soooooooooo many out clauses it is not funny. I tried to make a claim under one when I first got my car......... They came back with some lame excuse of "pre existing condition". So I got them under the 3 month warranty and having a go at their 100 point pre sale inspection........ (O2 sensor was not plugged in and stuffed the catalytic convertor, got it replaced and the O2 sensor replugged in, being a ex cop car must have unplugged it when undoing the CB radio) sorry having a rant:rant: :rant:
The old "top up" routine is a way of saying we checked there was something there.

I would take it straight to a mitsubishi dealer and get the box flushed and filled with the genuine ATM. Wasn't heartland at Castle hill was it? They sell mitsubisihi's so they may have some idea.........:badgrin:

Dave
20-01-2009, 01:36 PM
I bought it from the Castle Hill mob yes, but got serviced at Parramatta. With regards to the warranty, a number of things have already been fixed free-of-charge. I paid an extra $400 to have a comprehensive cover, which pretty much protects all mechanical repairs to drivetrain over the 3 years. They have already replaced cam belt, ancillary belt, PS pump, water pump after an epic failure after i bought it.

Disciple
20-01-2009, 01:36 PM
Those 3 year "extended warranties" are pretty useless they have soooooooooo many out clauses it is not funny. I tried to make a claim under one when I first got my car......... They came back with some lame excuse of "pre existing condition". So I got them under the 3 month warranty and having a go at their 100 point pre sale inspection........ (O2 sensor was not plugged in and stuffed the catalytic convertor, got it replaced and the O2 sensor replugged in, being a ex cop car must have unplugged it when undoing the CB radio) sorry having a rant:rant: :rant:
The old "top up" routine is a way of saying we checked there was something there.

I would take it straight to a mitsubishi dealer and get the box flushed and filled with the genuine ATM. Wasn't heartland at Castle hill was it? They sell mitsubisihi's so they may have some idea.........:badgrin:
When I bought my second gen Magna back in 1999 (god I feel old) it was under the dealer second hand warranty. The clutch went and same old story, "you abused it, we're not paying" I didn't abuse the car at all, I treated that car very well, as I do with all my cars. I know for a fact those warranties are useless. They serve to get the dealership more money through their servicing of the car you buy by overpricing all their servicing. I mean, to "top up" the transmission with god knows what oil, and not flush and replace like he should shows to me he's lazy and doesn't have a proper understanding of the car.

Take it elsewhere IMO.

Disciple
20-01-2009, 01:38 PM
I bought it from the Castle Hill mob yes, but got serviced at Parramatta. With regards to the warranty, a number of things have already been fixed free-of-charge. I paid an extra $400 to have a comprehensive cover, which pretty much protects all mechanical repairs to drivetrain over the 3 years. They have already replaced cam belt, ancillary belt, PS pump, water pump after an epic failure after i bought it.
That's a lot of problems for such a young car... If it's covering you like a new car warranty, then it sounds good. But please, get them to flush the transmission. If it has the wrong oil, or the oil goes brown for too long, your transmission will start to fail.

Blue Lightning
20-01-2009, 02:05 PM
I bought it from the Castle Hill mob yes, but got serviced at Parramatta. With regards to the warranty, a number of things have already been fixed free-of-charge. I paid an extra $400 to have a comprehensive cover, which pretty much protects all mechanical repairs to drivetrain over the 3 years. They have already replaced cam belt, ancillary belt, PS pump, water pump after an epic failure after i bought it.

You got a better deal then I did :)

Dave
20-01-2009, 02:53 PM
That's a lot of problems for such a young car... If it's covering you like a new car warranty, then it sounds good. But please, get them to flush the transmission. If it has the wrong oil, or the oil goes brown for too long, your transmission will start to fail.

It was the ancillary belt that partially snapped, and managed to smash the cam cover and damage the cambelt and a few other things. All happened at once

magna00
20-01-2009, 03:11 PM
When I bought my second gen Magna back in 1999 (god I feel old) it was under the dealer second hand warranty. The clutch went and same old story, "you abused it, we're not paying" I didn't abuse the car at all, I treated that car very well, as I do with all my cars. I know for a fact those warranties are useless. They serve to get the dealership more money through their servicing of the car you buy by overpricing all their servicing. I mean, to "top up" the transmission with god knows what oil, and not flush and replace like he should shows to me he's lazy and doesn't have a proper understanding of the car.

Take it elsewhere IMO.

Thats because clutches are considered consumables, hence not covered under warranty, same deal with little things like brake rotors/pads, air filters, fuel filters, etc etc, they are just consumables to keep the car running.

Blue Lightning
20-01-2009, 03:13 PM
I bought it from the Castle Hill mob yes, but got serviced at Parramatta. With regards to the warranty, a number of things have already been fixed free-of-charge. I paid an extra $400 to have a comprehensive cover, which pretty much protects all mechanical repairs to drivetrain over the 3 years. They have already replaced cam belt, ancillary belt, PS pump, water pump after an epic failure after i bought it.

Sounds like you are the exception to the rule with extended warranty!!! :cool: Good that you are being looked after!

Disciple
20-01-2009, 04:40 PM
Thats because clutches are considered consumables, hence not covered under warranty, same deal with little things like brake rotors/pads, air filters, fuel filters, etc etc, they are just consumables to keep the car running.
I understand that clutches and brakes etc are consumables. But for a car you've just bought to do the clutch... come on. The point is the warranties we're talking about cover jack all of nothing.