View Full Version : TJ: Lower Drivers Seat
Snupple
22-01-2009, 02:52 AM
Im 6'6" and finding I am constantly adjusting the drivers seat, either moving it forwards or tilting it backwards or upright.. I like to sit close to the steering wheel but then my head hits the roof.
Just wondering if anyone has managed to lower a standard TJ drivers seat at all?
magna00
22-01-2009, 04:25 AM
Im 6'6" and finding I am constantly adjusting the drivers seat, either moving it forwards or tilting it backwards or upright.. I like to sit close to the steering wheel but then my head hits the roof.
Just wondering if anyone has managed to lower a standard TJ drivers seat at all?
First off you want to be as far away from an airbag wheel as possible (without having to stretch to use the wheel etc) sitting pretty much as close as you can to it, can kill you in an accident, im 6"7" i have to have the seat all the way back, but the backrest is resonably straight up with the bottom seat wound all the way down for me to clear the roof.
My old girl nearly got killed from sitting too close to an airbag wheel, it went off and punctured her left lung with a rib bone with the force from the airbag hitting here in the upper chest, also smashed her jawbone as well.
no one ever said airbags were completely safe, but at least she didnt smash her face on a rock hard steering wheel, which at high speed is fatal. You should be sitting close enough to rest your wrists on the top of the wheel. With regards to lowering the seat, all i can think is to custom fabricate a new seat rail
KING EGO
22-01-2009, 04:46 AM
They are a rather low seat already.. Being that tall how dont know how u wouldnt have the base of seat all the way back anyway..:)
J-Flo
22-01-2009, 08:34 AM
I'm 6'5" and my seat is nearly always all the way back, unless i have passengers in the back, then it gets a bit uncomfortable.
I don't think it would be possible to lower the seat, and if it is possible it wouldn't be by much as they are quite low already.
Snupple
22-01-2009, 06:24 PM
Thanks for all your comments, I'll have to muck around I guess :bouncin:
doddski
22-01-2009, 08:33 PM
im 6-7, i dont have the seat all the way 'back' but i have it titled backwards and lowered with the seatback pulled up a lil more.
i have no problem with my head hitting the roof - i just cant have big hair! haha
maybe electric seats are a solution - they allow for the provision of lowering the seat and tilting it.
JuzandBec
23-01-2009, 08:09 AM
With the Magna/Verada's not have a reach adjustment it makes it a tad more difficult to get a 'perfect' driving position. Being tall myself I need to have the seat all the way back but I also like to drive with my arm resting on the window or armrest - because the wheel can't move forward I find myself driving with finger-tips.
I too Doddski was wondering if the elec seats had more adjustability..... does anyone have access to both manual and elec seats and comment on driving positions of both?
MitchellO
24-01-2009, 07:49 PM
maybe electric seats are a solution - they allow for the provision of lowering the seat and tilting it.
My KH and my sisters TJ both had/have manual height/tilt adjustment.
Didn't notice much if any change in driving position from my KH (manual) to TL (electric).
fer0x
24-01-2009, 08:15 PM
im 6'2-3" and mines always all the way back, so much more comfortable that way, and safer especially because I have no airbags
grelise
24-01-2009, 08:23 PM
My KH and my sisters TJ both had/have manual height/tilt adjustment.
Didn't notice much if any change in driving position from my KH (manual) to TL (electric).
I'm pretty sure the TL came with 4-6 way electric adjustment, I know my Kl has 10 way adjustment.
MitchellO
25-01-2009, 05:23 AM
I'm pretty sure the TL came with 4-6 way electric adjustment, I know my Kl has 10 way adjustment.
The extra 4-ways is lumbar and seatback, those are manual on the TLs, KL's got them electric.
doddski
25-01-2009, 04:26 PM
My KH and my sisters TJ both had/have manual height/tilt adjustment.
Didn't notice much if any change in driving position from my KH (manual) to TL (electric).
i always found the manual adjusters to be quite.. difficult to get a good seating position personally.
at least with the electric base, you know if you push the button square down, itl drop the seat and any combination etc etc. i found with manual ones i was droipping the back part, but couldnt get the front to drop too - so trying to get a good/comfortable tilt was hard too. mind you - this was a Daewoo and an Elantra... so one hopes the magna is easier to use?
pretty sure it was the GTVI Veradas that had the 10 way as standard - Greg and myself should only have (according to the sales brochures/scans/pdfs) 8way - i believe 10ways where optional. Someone will correct me if im wrong?
Ken_L
25-01-2009, 06:08 PM
I'm 6"-5" and I just wish there was some way to put reach adjustment on the steering wheel - it's far too close to the dash for me (but perfect for my 5'-2" wife!). Like many tall drivers, a lot of my view through the windscreen is via the tinted section at the top, and sun visors are a waste of space.
To all you blokes 6'-5" and over, the answer (gulp) is a Ford Territory. It has space and adjustability we Magna owners can only dream about.
Levinitup
25-01-2009, 06:26 PM
To all you blokes 6'-5" and over, the answer (gulp) is a Ford Territory. It has space and adjustability we Magna owners can only dream about.
Except driving a territory is like driving a bus..
Ken_L
25-01-2009, 06:42 PM
Except driving a territory is like driving a bus..
Yes, they are a big hunk of metal to deal with in city traffic, but they do have the room that the OP is really seeking. Basically, most modern sedans are way too low. You now have to look at soft-roaders to regain the sort of headroom and driving position that was standard issue in normal 1950s cars.
mrgibblets-wa
25-01-2009, 07:18 PM
If your that tall, raise the seat higher and install a sun roof. Problem solved
NORBY
25-01-2009, 07:25 PM
If your that tall, raise the seat higher and install a sun roof. Problem solved
excpt when its raining the sunroof makes the roof lining lower so its only a sunnytimes car
mrgibblets-wa
25-01-2009, 09:16 PM
Then you put something like a hood over the top of it.
Madmagna
26-01-2009, 07:23 AM
The best distance from the steering wheel is set up like this
Sit in your seat, place your wrists on the steering wheel at the 10 and 2 position, there should be a slight bend in your elbows if you are at the correct distance.
Funny think is that airbags were really invented for lazy rich people in the US who wanted to drive their convertables with no seat belts lol Research has found that there are also many bad and fatal injuries fomr airbag deployment both in accidents and by accidental deploment.
My mate is a development engineer for Ford and has worked around the world for Ford in various countries, he does not have very many complimentary things to say about airbags at all lol
mrgibblets-wa
26-01-2009, 07:49 AM
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benjamin92
26-01-2009, 07:55 AM
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didn't he drive into the back on a mattrest truck driving like that? :P
Ken_L
26-01-2009, 04:09 PM
The best distance from the steering wheel is set up like this
Sit in your seat, place your wrists on the steering wheel at the 10 and 2 position, there should be a slight bend in your elbows if you are at the correct distance.
Funny think is that airbags were really invented for lazy rich people in the US who wanted to drive their convertables with no seat belts lol Research has found that there are also many bad and fatal injuries fomr airbag deployment both in accidents and by accidental deploment.
My mate is a development engineer for Ford and has worked around the world for Ford in various countries, he does not have very many complimentary things to say about airbags at all lol
That raises a point I've often thought about - what is an airbag supposed to do that a properly fitted and tensioned seatbelt doesn't do? A long time ago, I was unfortunate enough to be involved in an accident where a tow-truck ploughed into the driver's door at high speed. My car (a VW Beetle) was written off and I really stretched the seat belt, but didn't come even close to the steering wheel or windscreen.
MitchellO
26-01-2009, 06:18 PM
That raises a point I've often thought about - what is an airbag supposed to do that a properly fitted and tensioned seatbelt doesn't do? A long time ago, I was unfortunate enough to be involved in an accident where a tow-truck ploughed into the driver's door at high speed. My car (a VW Beetle) was written off and I really stretched the seat belt, but didn't come even close to the steering wheel or windscreen.
I believe it is to stop your head snapping forward too fast, it slows it down.
Ken_L
26-01-2009, 06:45 PM
I believe it is to stop your head snapping forward too fast, it slows it down.
Fair enough. I must admit, the forces involved in an accident are huge. In the accident I mentioned above, my glasses were flung off and bounced hard against the left windscreen pillar. I guess that's where my head would heve ended up if I hadn't been wearing the seat belt. It wasn't compulsory to wear them in those days, but it seemed like a good idea!
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