I know this is not magna related, but i am wondering if any of you guys/gal have ever driven or know much about the Nissan Stagea?
i have been lookin at one for a while which i have fallen in love with, got all the mods i want low kays and at the right price,

it s a 99 model
tiptronice auto
fmic/bov/3inch zorst/coilovers
nice stereo
80xxx ks
phat 18's
never crashed and awesome in condition
all on road for 13500 with rego/rwc


Basicaly its a r34 wagon for those who dont know but if u know anything , maybe future problems or ne thing ne help would be greatly appreciated


Ivan

I know this is not magna related, but i am wondering if any of you guys/gal have ever driven or know much about the Nissan Stagea?
i have been lookin at one for a while which i have fallen in love with, got all the mods i want low kays and at the right price,

it s a 99 model
tiptronice auto
fmic/bov/3inch zorst/coilovers
nice stereo
80xxx ks
phat 18's
never crashed and awesome in condition
all on road for 13500 with rego/rwc


Basicaly its a r34 wagon for those who dont know but if u know anything , maybe future problems or ne thing ne help would be greatly appreciated


Ivan


It isnt really an R34 wagon, looks wise.


I honestly think you are better off with a Legnum, i recon they look better too.

I know this is not magna related, but i am wondering if any of you guys/gal have ever driven or know much about the Nissan Stagea?
i have been lookin at one for a while which i have fallen in love with, got all the mods i want low kays and at the right price,

it s a 99 model
tiptronice auto
fmic/bov/3inch zorst/coilovers
nice stereo
80xxx ks
phat 18's
never crashed and awesome in condition
all on road for 13500 with rego/rwc


Basicaly its a r34 wagon for those who dont know but if u know anything , maybe future problems or ne thing ne help would be greatly appreciated


Ivan

Simple one, if its been modded dont buy it, the rb26dett is a good strong motor, however the turbos do tend give out quickly due to being ceramic rather then steel turbine, and if he has fmic etc on it he has no doubt run up the boost and the turbos could be or would be close to shot

well looks wise no its not an r34 wagon but runnin gear yes, its not a rb26 either due to them being close to $40k it just a rb25, its only running 9 psi but i have had everthing checked over the car by my mechanic. its all good was just wanting to know if u guys had heard anythign, and imo legnums look **** and drive ****ter... just my opinion.

well looks wise no its not an r34 wagon but runnin gear yes, its not a rb26 either due to them being close to $40k it just a rb25, its only running 9 psi but i have had everthing checked over the car by my mechanic. its all good was just wanting to know if u guys had heard anythign, and imo legnums look **** and drive ****ter... just my opinion.


Fair call, if your mechanic says its all good, then i dont see a problem, they would boot bloody hard!

Someone told me a Stagea is based on an old Volvo. :bowrofl: They have the same box design.

rb25 is the same deal as the 26, turbo is ceramic so watch for upped boost also it will be as fast as (probably slower due to weight) a r33 skyline as well, they only make 140ish atw

im not really fussed about power, it ****s all over the verada, pulls pretty hard and lights up the rear 265's with ease,,:D :D just waiting for my monies to come through, as soon as i can ill get picccyss up..

2 of my mates have both the legnum and stagea, and having driven both of them i preferred the Legnum, it's alot lighter, threfore alot quciker and aftermarket parts are readily available. With a few simple mods(boost controller & exhaust will get you over 300bhp).

IMO opinion the stagea didnt handle aswell, seemed alot slower of the mark, and on a long journey, Melb- Byron Bay, didnt feel very comfortable as the legnum did on the way home!!

Both, have aftermarket parts readily available, so modding it will not be a problem, but if i was you i would be checking out another legnum before i make your final decision. Afterall, spending 15k you want something that will serve you well!

But, at the end of the day, both will be alot quicker than the Verada!!!

also, have you looked at a legacy?? might be worth checking that out!

my brother had one of these
there pretty quick for what they are
hes one was fairly stock tho, only had a muffler on it
he added in a turbo timer and BOV, but since being an auto removed the BOV as it wasnt really needed
yes they are very similar to the volvo wagons, needed to get a new door seal and the volvo one wasnt far off lol

but i'll give you one peice of advice, dont crash it
brother crashed his and the damage wasnt that bad but the main problem was finding the parts
had to get the parts from japan and thats not cheap, think it was like 12 grand just for the parts

would of be past on to me if he didnt crash it (wasnt at fault),
was only a few weeks away too :(

the only common fault with the Stagea is the are prone to rust on the inside of the door skin directly under the sidemirrors. Something in the order of 70percent of them suffer a rust spot in this area at some point in their life.

and for the record they are based on the C34 Laurel chaisis not the R34 Skyline. However many of the parts are interchangable. The nissan engines always respond well to freein up the exhaust and inlet, you could say they should have done better from the factory but anyways.

My next car will be something 4wd and imported and i havent ruled out a stagea or legnum yet but not a fan of the subies.

dont get an auto, please....

if its the family mule, which it undoubtedly will be, seeing as how i have a S13 to please me, it wil have to be an auto, but would love a manual. Has to be auto as my missus cant (i mean cant physicaly, not mentally) drive a manual.

Nothing wrong with the autos on Stageas or most modern cars for that matter ...some people need to move on and embrace technology.

Look for rust Stageas are prone for it in a number of areas especially around the strut towers which can be very expensive. Otherwise they are very good car.

Talking about expense they guzzle fuel .... this is seriously effecting them depreciation wise and for a 99 I'd be doing some serious negotiating on that price. I've seen clean Stageas for $10500 and even one at Pickles black and dual glass for $6950 bought by an entrepeneur who then sold it on for $12000 ish

http://motovationimports.carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/portal/tabID__88072/DesktopDefault.aspx

From what I heard/read, the Stagea's drive nice and go hard.
But for me, I'm not a fan of the front looks.


I was considering one of these when I was sticking to a wagon (Pre-Ralliart).
There were a couple of Stagea's (maybe in Japan?) which had R34 fronts on them.
Not sure what bits were replaced, bolted-on or customised though. I tried to find out more info but didn't get far.

Just do a Google-Images and type in... stagea r34 front
There's a few who have done it. More pics and info now - better now than when I was originally looking at them.

http://www.monkys.jp/e/img/600DSC50015.jpg
http://aycu37.webshots.com/image/49516/2002676023418056540_rs.jpg
http://www.page.sannet.ne.jp/totsuka/stagea_r.jpg
http://www.wkdimports.com/gallery/stagea/08112007465.jpg
http://www.wkdimports.com/1997-nissan-stagea-r34-gtr-front/

*edit*
GOLD! - Found a kit to do it - damn why didn't they have that a couple of years ago.
"The kit is made by Masa Motorsport in Japan and comes complete with everything needed . Its take off and bolt on job."
"This kit uses NO R34 parts they are all made by MASA."
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/84559-stagea-r34-conversion.html

*** http://www.nengun.com/massa-motorsport/m-34r-gt
- ouch! - expensive!

Someone told me a Stagea is based on an old Volvo. :bowrofl: They have the same box design.

when haltechs stagea rocked up i thought it was a volvo... they didnt appreciate that

How much is it costing to insure if you don't mind me asking - I'm curious about a grey import myself.

I'm a big fan of Stagea's. Very interesting cars. And very mean looking rear end. Personally, i'd only go for an Autech 260RS (GT-R powered Stagea).
Standard RB25DET Stageas are nice too. Not as much power as the Legnum VR-4's but that doesn't really matter as parts for the RB25DET Stageas are everywhere and there's so much aftermarket support for them.

Test drive one, see if you like it.
The standard RB25DET Stageas can be found for as little as $9,000 from private sellers.

The only thing that the Stagea is lacking is a dedicated club. But they have a special Stagea Discussion Section (http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Stagea-Discussion-f82.html) at SAU. You should check it out - you'll kill hours reading the information they've got there.

My brother-in-law has had 2 of them, the same model you are looking at and the latest model.

The model you are looking at is the one I like the best, looks much less like a Volvo :P

BUT...
VERY heavy on fuel.
Very heavy car overall.
Parts aren't too bad as they share a lot of parts with the Skylines.
Seats are flat, uncomfortable and not nice for long drives.
Turbo gives up regularly if you have the stock ceramic one.
Respond reasonably well to mods, but still a heavy car.
Overall a great fun family car but be prepared to empty the pocket for fuel.


The Legnum is a better car in my opinion...
Looks more sporty (aggressive)
Easier on the fuel
Seats are MUCH more comfortable
Lighter
Whilst both cars have AWD, the Legnum has AYC which is a big help
Quicker than the Stagea
Spare parts a little harder to come by as there isn't so many over here yet but they are increasing fast
Not as much turbo lag as the Stagea
Bit more difficult to upgrade the turbo as there is precious little room for the rear one to be upsized.
Also a fair bit cheaper than the Stagea
Won Car of the Year in Japan in 1999 I think it was...


Ummm thats all I can think of right now.

My brother-in-law has had 2 of them, the same model you are looking at and the latest model.

The model you are looking at is the one I like the best, looks much less like a Volvo :P

BUT...
VERY heavy on fuel.
Very heavy car overall.
Parts aren't too bad as they share a lot of parts with the Skylines.
Seats are flat, uncomfortable and not nice for long drives.
Turbo gives up regularly if you have the stock ceramic one.
Respond reasonably well to mods, but still a heavy car.
Overall a great fun family car but be prepared to empty the pocket for fuel.


The Legnum is a better car in my opinion...
Looks more sporty (aggressive)
Easier on the fuel
Seats are MUCH more comfortable
Lighter
Whilst both cars have AWD, the Legnum has AYC which is a big help
Quicker than the Stagea
Spare parts a little harder to come by as there isn't so many over here yet but they are increasing fast
Not as much turbo lag as the Stagea
Bit more difficult to upgrade the turbo as there is precious little room for the rear one to be upsized.
Also a fair bit cheaper than the Stagea
Won Car of the Year in Japan in 1999 I think it was...


Ummm thats all I can think of right now.

100% agree.

Oh if you do decide to go for the Stagea route, the price on the one you are looking at is pretty good.

My brother-in-law upgraded the exhaust, turbo, shift kit, and SAFC and got 184kw at all 4 wheels.

ok well heres the update, i got absolutely shat on with the stagea, put down a deposit and everything, waiting to get the rest of the money together and then bam they sold it on me, apparently some1 else had put down a deposit and the guy i was dealing with didnt know, the guy picked it up last night and i was goin to go in tonight with the money, absolutely shattered as i made the mistake of falling for this car, now i will look a lil more seriously into a legnum... my only downfall is i suck major testes when it comes to driving a manual car.... what are the autos like in a legnum? is it like buying a ferrari with no engine or could i still get a decent drive from the auto? also what kinda power would i get from basic mods? ie fmic,boost,zorst, ecu etc etc.... any insight on legnums would be muchly appreciated...

Well I hope you got your deposit back. And seems a bit unprofessional of the dealership not knowing there was a deposit already on it.

That's fairly ironic putting a deposit on a car and the dealer selling it....usually if you do and don't follow through with the purchase then the dealer comes after YOU because you have entered a agreement for purchase.

You could ask for a small amount in damages ie cost of running around blah blah blah. But usually they are d*ckheads and its just not worth it. Maybe a couple of phone calls just to stir them up.

http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-car/MITSUBISHI/LEGNUM/ACT/csn6630411.aspx

This car is on carpoint looks pretty good etc right price for a Legnum Series II won't get it too much cheaper importing etc

A word of caution though make sure it is road registered BEFORE purchase, don't take the sellers word for it.

Legnum autos are very good in fact Mitsubishi make one of the best Intelligent gearboxes around, sometimes they are set to the owners driving patterns and initially this may seem they are 'faulty' you can reset them and they'll learn your driving habits.

mate if ur still interested in stagea's and aren't too fussed about the model, i have a stagea for u (cept it's not mine, and it's from j-spec.com.au)

http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/index.php?ID=13331

this one has been on the site for a pretty long time, it had a twin stagea which i had more of an eye on (twin sun roof, full kit, and wheels) and was a couple grand cheaper.. just had a check on the site a few days ago and the one i was keen on is gone.. but this one looks pretty good, and the price isn't too bad either IMO

legnums have a 5 speed automatic. unlike the magnas the 0-100 times of the automatics vs manuals is the same. I have owned a legnum VR4 before and the autobox is great. road grip is outstanding and there is no wheel spin even under hard acceleration. I had a boost controller and gauge installed in mine and have personally measured 0-100kmh at 5.6 seconds. Others have had this car running below 5 seconds without major mods. oh and please drive sensibly on public roads with these machines. I have only tested mine on country roads and within the speed limits. I sold mine last year because i needed the money. on looks, I think the legnum looks very s*xy. stagea is just ugly.(the back especially) thats my opinion anyway.

You wont have any problems with the auto on the Legnum. They are a very good box.

But once you learnt the manual it would be oh so much more fun!:D

There is an Australian VR4 website... OZVR4 or something I can't remember now, been i while since I was on there.

If you are looking at importing, Iron Chef is the man to go through with the Legnums, he has owned them before and so has his family members so he knows what he is looking for.

thanks for the help guys, if u know more keep it coming, im goin to be looking at a few tommorrow to take for a drive to get a feel, im not completely sold on the interior and the whole way the dash is made up , the auto shifter reminds me of lancers but oh well. beggers cant be chosers apparently,. ill let u all know how i go tommorrow wiht the legnums. will be interesting seeing its goin to be 44 degress, im goin to go early in the morning b4 it gets to hot... i will post updates tommorow arvo

J-styl

There's a lot more you need to know about the 8th generation VR-4's besides how well the car goes and what it's like to drive the 5 speed tiptronic. Head over to www.ozvr4.com. You'll find oodles of information there. Please also search through our forums first and take a look at the Index (http://www.ozvr4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11) page with answers to the most common VR-4 questions - if you can't find the answer, then post up a question and we'll do our best to help you out.
There is also a VR-4 literature, road tests and reviews (http://www.ozvr4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4740) thread including scanned brochures etc, so do take a look at that thread as well.