I know this topic has been covered to death - but has anyone found out conclusivly whether or not fitting the intake to an Aussie 380 will have any affect on factory warranty?

I haven't heard (or read) of anyone here getting pinged on a service for having said intake fitted, as yet.

How would it? Its a factory genuine part.

If you do have any problems just refit the old one. No problems.

The old one wouldn't fit without the original front half of the airbox. So if you are a bit worried about warranty go to the wreckers and get a std airbox to fit up if you feel the need. Also as Nemesis said they wont worry about a factory part. I never had an issue when i had mine fitted.

I highly doubt they will notice tbh.

I said in another thread, on my last service I had the Galant intake fitted (which all looks exactly the same as standard one, except the neck of the snorkel is wider), K&N filter inside (not that they'd see that of course), full front rubber strip taken off, and plastic engine cover removed.
I had to make mention of these things, because I feared they'd see the missing bits and replace them all with new items and charge me for it. The service guy acknowledged me with indifference... and nothing else was said about the car. (It was also lowered (no 19s though) with after-market muffler at that time too... they didn't say anything about those either).
Either I was lucky or they just didn't care. I believe the latter as I have not breached warranty or fitted anything illegally.
But as for your query of the intake, I am completely confident that if you fit it, nothing will be said of it; furthermore they probably won't even notice it.

Of course the dealer won't say anything about what mods you do when you take it in for a service. You are paying them for that service and they can still perform it fully. But that doesn't prevent them from using the mods as an excuse to refuse to honour a repair under warranty down the track. Just because the dealer said nothing during a service is NO INDICATION of what might happen when warranty gets involved. If I were a dealer I would prefer the mods remained installed so that if a warranty issue were to arise, they are still attached and can still be pointed to as a possible cause of a fault.

That said, I have the intake on order and don't believe it will effect the warranty. MMAL would be on very shaky ground trying to point blame to the intake for any fault as it is a Genuine Mitsubishi part for that particular motor, even if it isn't an Australian part.

But sorry OP I can't answer you conclusively either.

Yes granted a routine service and warranty claim are 2 very different issues under completely different circumstances; my mistake. And obviously the nature/specification of some mods would be taken seriously into consideration by the dealer when decided the action on claim made at that time, etc etc - but the intake surely wouldn't cause any trouble as it is a genuine Mitsubishi part... but the simplest way out is to take it off and put the original back on (for duration of claim/service, etc).

Was informed by a dealership that as long as it is fitted by a qualified mechanic, it cannot void the warranty, as it is a Mitsubishi Genuine part designed specifically for the 6G75 motor.

When I fitted my K&N Pod filter, I rang up K&N and asked them if it would void my warrenty on the car. They guaranteed that it wouldnt, but told me to call up Mitsubishi just to make sure. When I called up Mitsubishi they said that as long as I had not touched the MAL sensor it wouldnt be a problem. So I dont see why using the Galant intake would void any warrenty.

When I fitted my K&N Pod filter, I rang up K&N and asked them if it would void my warrenty on the car. They guaranteed that it wouldnt, but told me to call up Mitsubishi just to make sure. When I called up Mitsubishi they said that as long as I had not touched the MAL sensor it wouldnt be a problem. So I dont see why using the Galant intake would void any warrenty.
I thought Pod filters were illegal, aren't they?
Anyway, that's good news for you.

Cheers for your input guys

I (and me missus) are very cautious about things that could affect warranty - i think ill just give MY dealer a buzz - and perhaps MMAL direct, and see what they have to say

I can clearly see our paticular dealer - which we only have one choice of Mitsu dealers here locally, are not supportive of changing anything on a car, but ill see how it goes as i am planning on the small mods most of you have done in the way of galant intake, K&N Filter, and rear muffler mods, but im sure that is as far as it will go driveline wise - heck, im still battling with the minister for war and finance over new rims!

Thanks anyway guys:)

I thought Pod filters were illegal, aren't they?
Anyway, that's good news for you.

Only if its not in an enclosed box etc (incase the intake backfires and it catches alight apparently)

Only if its not in an enclosed box etc (incase the intake backfires and it catches alight apparently)


yeah, cos that happens allthe time apparently.:D

Well - not good news for me im afriad

had a chat to our dealer today - as expected, bloody tight****s have basically a policy

Any modification to a vehicle that alters they way the vehicle was designed to operate for this region will void warranty - this extends to any and all factory or aftermarket parts they were not specifically designed for this region - and even though the TMR380 has the 90mm intake - all other models sold in australia were designed with the smaller one, so any change voids the warranty - the intake will even void warranty on the transmission!.....:nuts:

they will viod warranty on any exhaust changes, and even lowering will void warranty on steering and suspention components

bloody pricks!

will have to wait for warranty to run out now:rant:

Well - not good news for me im afriad

had a chat to our dealer today - as expected, bloody tight****s have basically a policy

Any modification to a vehicle that alters they way the vehicle was designed to operate for this region will void warranty - this extends to any and all factory or aftermarket parts they were not specifically designed for this region - and even though the TMR380 has the 90mm intake - all other models sold in australia were designed with the smaller one, so any change voids the warranty - the intake will even void warranty on the transmission!.....:nuts:

they will viod warranty on any exhaust changes, and even lowering will void warranty on steering and suspention components

bloody pricks!

will have to wait for warranty to run out now:rant:


Would LOVE to see them prove that if it ever went to court.........

As for intake voiding warranty, guess my dealer is better than your dealer LOL as they have no issues (neither do MMAL for the record)

Well - not good news for me im afriad

had a chat to our dealer today - as expected, bloody tight****s have basically a policy

Any modification to a vehicle that alters they way the vehicle was designed to operate for this region will void warranty - this extends to any and all factory or aftermarket parts they were not specifically designed for this region - and even though the TMR380 has the 90mm intake - all other models sold in australia were designed with the smaller one, so any change voids the warranty - the intake will even void warranty on the transmission!.....:nuts:

they will viod warranty on any exhaust changes, and even lowering will void warranty on steering and suspention components

bloody pricks!

will have to wait for warranty to run out now:rant:
Take it elsewhere. Do you have another dealer you can take it too? That is just ridiculous.

Well - not good news for me im afriad

That's sounds crazy.

I talked to my dealer at length about modifications because mine is leased as well :badgrin: The Service Manager said there were no issues with the intake, the exhaust (they recommended where I should take it!) and even the chip they suggested I contact ChipTorque and gave me their number. ChipTorque had come into the dealership when the 380 model first turned up and pulled data from the OBD2 connector.

They said they would take any warranty claims on a case by case basis. If I modded something - for instance put in an LSD - and it contributed to a failure I would be liable. Extremely reasonable I thought.

Change your dealer!

I'm sure you did the right thing if you really want to be 100% sure and confident of where you stand before you start fiddling with your car, but I don't agree with that at all. To my understanding, the only voiding my/our modifications would result in is for claims relating directly to those areas - ie claim to exhaust system wherein I've changed the muffler, claim to suspension faults wherein I've changed the springs, etc etc - and not to areas unrelated to modifications (which are really very very minor).
Granted I didn't ask my dealer before doing the mods, but I never have in the past and have never had any problems with warranty. I reckon it comes down to dealerships... mine is a good one and haven't said anything about my mods when I've brought the car in so far.
For me, I couldn't live with a 100% stock car... I tried and eventually had to change things, its in my blood. If my simple tiny mods really do void something, so be it. Worse case scenerio I can return my original springs, rims, and intake to the car (all still in the garage) - except for the muffler (which I chucked) - before making the big bad claim (which I don't believe will ever arise).
As far as I know, the 20 TMRs had the standard intake... that guy z80, who had one here and was soon banned, mentioned it.
Sorry about the bad news.

As far as I know, the 20 TMRs had the standard intake... that guy z80, who had one here and was soon banned, mentioned it.

Huh, and standard exhaust. Missed out on a lot of free KW. Can't wait to see Foozer's result.

I'm sure you did the right thing if you really want to be 100% sure and confident of where you stand before you start fiddling with your car, but I don't agree with that at all.

yes well, when you think about it really, factory warranties can be worth thier weight in gold if you need to use it, but i wont stop there, my next step is to contact the appropriate person at MMAL and get it straight from the horses mouth....if they back up the dealer, well ill just wait till warranty runs out - if they disagree - well it'll be time to give my dealer a bit of a headache!

why was z80 banned????

why was z80 banned????
He was copping flak from a few 2nd & 3rd gen guys for buying 4 380's. He started giving it back to them & got banned. Shame really, would have been good hearing about the TMR from someone who drives one every day.

He was copping flak from a few 2nd & 3rd gen guys for buying 4 380's. He started giving it back to them & got banned. Shame really, would have been good hearing about the TMR from someone who drives one every day.

Yes, it's a shame. I PM'ed him to caution him not to respond in kind, but...

He was copping flak from a few 2nd & 3rd gen guys for buying 4 380's. He started giving it back to them & got banned. Shame really, would have been good hearing about the TMR from someone who drives one every day.
Yeah a real shame... the only user here at that time who owned a guenuine TMR380, the rarest 380 of all. It would have been very interesting to follow his work on the TMR, if he had any planned mods for it, not to mention the other 3 380s he had.

He was copping flak from a few 2nd & 3rd gen guys for buying 4 380's. He started giving it back to them & got banned. Shame really, would have been good hearing about the TMR from someone who drives one every day.
Yeah real shame, Well if we wasn't a toolbag about it I'm sure he'd still be here :)
The other 3 380's he had were all standard, why would i want to keep tabs up on 3 standard 380's? :confused:

']Yeah real shame, Well if we wasn't a toolbag about it I'm sure he'd still be here :)
The other 3 380's he had were all standard, why would i want to keep tabs up on 3 standard 380's? :confused:
Whether its 3 std 380's or 1 std Magna with "parras" or clear side indicators. Everyone is entitled to have the preferences in cars. And if they own 4 then good for them. Not everyone has the same tastes in cars or "mods" remember.

If my memory is correct he was a young fella in his early 20s, Were would he get the money to buy 4 380s from???

If my memory is correct he was a young fella in his early 20s, Were would he get the money to buy 4 380s from???

Its none of our business.

If my memory is correct he was a young fella in his early 20s, Were would he get the money to buy 4 380s from???
I think he was a dentist.

I think he was a dentist.
He lives down here in Geelong... I will call every dentist in the phone book to find him for you all! And pass on our warm regards! lol

I got the impression he wasn't in his 20s... but closer to 50s (just a hunch). I recall him mentioning being in a good financial position in life (that was right in the middle of "differences of opinions") - and he had some close relationship with Mitsubishi (family/friend worked there?) so he got some discount on the 380s he bought.
Yes he was a dentist too, and they pull down big dollars (my wife works for one). The supposed owner of the only production Phase 4 Falcon (Calypso Green) was/is also a dentist in Sydney. I guess I chose the wrong profession...

Only if its not in an enclosed box etc (incase the intake backfires and it catches alight apparently)


yeah, cos that happens allthe time apparently.:D

I've actually seen it happen once. one day i got to work and in the carpark there was a full team of fireys hosing down an early 90s celica in the car park. The guy worked in the coles next door to me, turned out his pod filter caught fire and burnt out the rest of the engine. His insurance company wasnt too impressed with the undeclared and non street legal pod filter either. Last i heard it was a 'claim for consideration' (which basically meant they were going to make sure he couldnt sue them before they told him where to go!)

Not saying pod filters are a huge fire risk. but the only care fire i've witnessed first hand was due to one.

Ouch! That wouldn't be a good happening, especially with a nice 380.
Hopefully a pod set-up like Fooz's would be okay (with the pod plumbed down behind grille at left near wheel well). But having said that, I'm not interested in a pod system at all; I'm happy just to lop the bottom of my lower intake resonator instead.

Hopefully a pod set-up like Fooz's would be okay (with the pod plumbed down behind grille at left near wheel well).
Maybe I should line the pod area with asbestos just in case lol

lol. I think a pod in a 380 would be a hell of a lot safer than in a celica that somebody's trying to make fast. I used to have an '87 celica, it was an awesome car, but it wasnt worth trying to make fast........

pods are fine, just thought i'd mention i'd seen it happen once

Guys - I am having problems sourcing the 90mm snorkel at a reasonable price. Rey Reece don't answer their "contact us" section of their website. Nor does the part show up on their website (Mitsubishi parts are no longer an option in the pull down menu).

I tried Caine at the Mitsu clearance warehouse - no luck - none left.

Are there any other options apart from the dealer? I called up my local dealer and they want $100. Maybe that is my only option left. If you know of any other options pls let me know. :ninja:

Guys - I am having problems sourcing the 90mm snorkel at a reasonable price. Rey Reece don't answer their "contact us" section of their website. Nor does the part show up on their website (Mitsubishi parts are no longer an option in the pull down menu).

I tried Caine at the Mitsu clearance warehouse - no luck - none left.

Are there any other options apart from the dealer? I called up my local dealer and they want $100. Maybe that is my only option left. If you know of any other options pls let me know. :ninja:
:gtfo: Gee your right, no more Mitsubishi parts at Rey Reece :nuts:

You can try http://www.mitsubishiparts.net/ but I'm not sure if they will ship international. Other than that you may have to pay the $100, still worth it though.

Hi, Rey Reece appear to no longer sell Mitsubishi parts.

I have however found this site.

http://www.parts.com/oemcatalog/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=2

Part MN156778 Inlet duct - 3.8 liter LS & GTS $12.60 USD

Part MN180008 Air cleaner body - 3.8 liter Ls & GTS $66.46 USD

The drop down box at checkout implies that they will send internationally.

Awesome find, have saved that in my favourites.

parts.com looks good but in the FAQs they say

Can you ship to an international address?
Answer:
No, Parts.com is not offering international shipping at this time.


I have emailed that place you suggested Foozrcool - see if they can do it. It breaks my heart to think about paying $100 for a part that in the USA costs $12US.

I have emailed that place you suggested Foozrcool - see if they can do it. It breaks my heart to think about paying $100 for a part that in the USA costs $12US.
Yeah that sucks, I have one here but I don't really want to part with it ....... sorry

Ok try this then:
Courtesy Mitsubishi Parts http://www.partswebsite.com/courtesymitsubishi/
MN156778 = $13.78 USD
MN180008 = $72.70 USD
Shipping Policy
NOTICE: INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WILL BE SHIPPED DUTY AND TAX COLLECT
---------------------------------- OR ------------------------------------
Giuffre Mitsubishi Parts http://www.partswebsite.com/giuffreparts/
MN156778 = $15.51 USD
MN180008 = $81.78 USD
Shipping Policy
NOTICE: INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WILL BE SHIPPED DUTY AND TAX COLLECT
---------------------------------- OR ------------------------------------
Ray Laks Mitsubishi Parts http://www.partswebsite.com/raylaks/
MN156778 = $13.78 USD
MN180008 = $72.70 USD
Shipping Policy
NOTICE: INTERNATIONAL ORDERS WILL BE SHIPPED DUTY AND TAX COLLECT

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You're a marvel :thumbsup:

You're a marvel :thumbsup:

Thanks Knothced, I thought I had a duty to the forum to find a replacement web site, after I found the original Rey Reece site on 28-8-07 and posted the details within the "NZ 380 power" thread.

Thanks Knothced, I thought I had a duty to the forum to find a replacement web site, after I found the original Rey Reece site on 28-8-07 and posted the details within the "NZ 380 power" thread.

Thanks appreciate your help! I have emailed all the new places and will let you guys know which one works.

Dissapointing re rey reece - maybe they are hurting with the car industry problems in the USA.

Dissapointing re rey reece - maybe they are hurting with the car industry problems in the USA.
Maybe they lost Mitsubishi coz they were selling more to AMC Australia than MMAL themselves :iough:

Guys I have had no luck with any of those places in the USA - they don't even reply to emails. :cry: Looks like sourcing this from overseas is going to be difficult.

Guys I have had no luck with any of those places in the USA - they don't even reply to emails. :cry: Looks like sourcing this from overseas is going to be difficult.
Bummer, looks like you will have to pay $100 local or bore a big hole through the front or bottom to get the extra air in there. :eh:

Guys I have had no luck with any of those places in the USA - they don't even reply to emails. :cry: Looks like sourcing this from overseas is going to be difficult.

I have a snorkel.....you can have it for $300 + postage.....lol.....

at that price - do you get the feeling i dont want to part with it!

i do want to put it on my car, but my lousy dealer has warned they will void warranty on the motor and tranny if they see it on my car - and i cant be stuffed changing it over at very service, so, ill have to wait a couple more years for me warranty to run out!

i do want to put it on my car, but my lousy dealer has warned they will void warranty on the motor and tranny if they see it on my car - and i cant be stuffed changing it over at very service, so, ill have to wait a couple more years for me warranty to run out!
I'd get another dealer if I was you :nuts:

I'd get another dealer if I was you :nuts:

I agree it sounds stupid - exactly the same car made in Australia, but sold in NZ has that snorkel.

Fitted my K&N filter today, removed the rubber strip under the bonnet, and things feel better already. Lets hope fuel consumption improves. Now need that damn 90mm snorkel to finish the job....

I doubt, just by looking, if the average person (dealer mechanic included) would recognise the bigger snorkel of the Galant intake. I know they look different (wider around the 'neck' of the snorkel) but if you weren't specifically looking for anything, it surely would not be noticed. But that's your choice and business, of course.
Mine been on for 2 dealer services now, and they haven't said a thing. But then the intake is the least of my mods.

I'd get another dealer if I was you :nuts:

Choices in Tassie are slim mate!

Choices in Tassie are slim mate!
I'd go with Grubco's comment, just put it on. It looks factory, it is factory & I bet their mechanics wouldn't even notice!

The 90mm looks more "factory" than the Aus 68mm. Perhaps because it was the snorkel originally designed for it!

If you look closely, it even has an embossed plastic finish to it - unlike the "try hard" 2.4 litre snorkel we got (which has a rivet stuck in it).

Apparently the US 3.8 MIVEC intake system has a secondary snorkel/inlet that opens when the revs go over 4000rpm. Check out the link from the Technical section:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66403&page=11

That looks interesting. Does the second intake have a snorkel? Doesn't show in that diagram. Also, it looks like a slightly modified version of our front-half airbox.
Perhaps the guy with the TMR-looking 380 could link that second intake to the TMR/XA-GT nostril vent on his bonnet.
EDIT: "the guy" = mytsgt95s (had to look it up)

Apparently the US 3.8 MIVEC intake system has a secondary snorkel/inlet that opens when the revs go over 4000rpm. Check out the link from the Technical section:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66403&page=11
As I mentioned in that thread, if Mitsubishi thinks the 3.8 Mivec needs more air over the 90mm intake my pod setup will very benificial :facejump:

Looks like cutting the lower resonator is the right way to go.

congrats to those who did it :thumbsup:

A power gain wasn't a figment of your imagination after all.

Tell you what; we're lucky Alan J posted that diagram of the US airbox. That's very effective evidence the 6G75 is restricted.

Found a pic of the 3.8 Mivec with the extra vacuum operated intake

I guess the second intake collects cooler air from the other side there. Primary intake looks different to ours, but appears to be about the same size.
I'm guessing that front airbox half would fit and clip up to our 380 rear half airbox?

I guess the second intake collects cooler air from the other side there. Primary intake looks different to ours, but appears to be about the same size.
I'm guessing that front airbox half would fit and clip up to our 380 rear half airbox?
Yep that pic is from an Eclipse GT, I found one of the Ralliart Galant which looked like it had a similar setup but it wasn't a very good pic. Both these cars run the 3.8 Mivec & parts are mostly interchangable as with the 380.

Looks like cutting the lower resonator is the right way to go.

congrats to those who did it :thumbsup:

A power gain wasn't a figment of your imagination after all.

Tell you what; we're lucky Alan J posted that diagram of the US airbox. That's very effective evidence the 6G75 is restricted.
For those that have cut the lower resonator or are considering it, I PM'd Alan J about concerns I had with it sucking up water. He said that can be a problem when a low intake is your only source of air but as we have kept the 90mm as the primary source, it shouldnt be a problem. He did however suggest to clean the filter at every oil change due to the possibility of extra dirt/leaves getting sucked up.

Wonder if the Galant when it is sold here next year (as the rumour goes) will have the US intake or a modified one? That model rumoured to go on sale would be very similar to what the next model 380 would have been like. I think it has a Camryised rear...

Wonder if the Galant when it is sold here next year (as the rumour goes) will have the US intake or a modified one? That model rumoured to go on sale would be very similar to what the next model 380 would have been like. I think it has a Camryised rear...
I heard that rumor too, but I also heard it wouldn't happen... so who knows. Would be sorta good so see the 380/Galant platform continue to sell here oneday.
As for your question on the intake, with no real knowledge on the subject, I'd guess the engine would feature the same Galant intake as they fit over there; the car would be fully imported here, so I don't imagine there'd be modifications to the car on arrival here.

Given a quote like:
"Osamu Masuko, the CEO of Mitsubishi Motors, indicated that the ninth generation of the Galant would be the last to be manufactured in North America, replaced on the MMNA production line in Illinois by smaller vehicles which are more likely to appeal to export markets."

I doubt that a Galant will be imported to Australia from the US especially with how inferior the US Galant is in body stiffness to the Australian 380. The current Galant is also older than the 380

There are a number of US press articles that support MMNA dropping the Galant.

Edit: also the vehicle that was tipped to replace the Galant and 380 the Mitsubishi Concept ZT was officially abandoned by MMC in August 2008

I doubt that a Galant will be imported to Australia from the US especially with how inferior the US Galant is in body stiffness to the Australian 380. The current Galant is also older than the 380

There are a number of US press articles that support MMNA dropping the Galant.

Edit: also the vehicle that was tipped to replace the Galant and 380 the Mitsubishi Concept ZT was officially abandoned by MMC in August 2008
Yeah, I guess considering how poorly, overall, the 380 sold here, logically the original Galant (being weaker from a point of view, not to mention ugly) would do even worse.
I think it would be better to forget the Galant (with its 380 connections) and bring something newer out here.

I've been driving Mitsubishi designed cars from my first Chrysler Sigma SE wagon. Unfortunately, my needs are for a mid to large family sedan which Mitsubishi no longer sells. Looks like a change of manufacturer next year when my lease comes up for renewal. Pity...

I've been driving Mitsubishi designed cars from my first Chrysler Sigma SE wagon. Unfortunately, my needs are for a mid to large family sedan which Mitsubishi no longer sells. Looks like a change of manufacturer next year when my lease comes up for renewal. Pity...

it sucks. i know.

At least get a falcon next if you need a family sedan. The new FG series is really nice. As much as i've always been a mitsubishi fanboy i wouldnt feel ashamed driving a ford.... I dont think i'd ever want a commodore (unless it was one of those 6.2 litre hsv wagons) And aurion's seem a little pricey for what you get.

and the falcon is the newest.

I've been driving Mitsubishi designed cars from my first Chrysler Sigma SE wagon. Unfortunately, my needs are for a mid to large family sedan which Mitsubishi no longer sells. Looks like a change of manufacturer next year when my lease comes up for renewal. Pity...

Hi Zarbs, remembering that the current Outlander and Lancer are built on the same platform known as the "GS Platfrom", I am hopeful that Mitsubishi will transplant the 3 Litre 6B31 Mivec V6 from the Outlander and place it in the Lancer.

Personally I believe that the Lancer with the MIVEC V6 would be a very nice package and suitable progression path for some Mitsubishi customers looking for mid size cars.

it sucks. i know.

At least get a falcon next if you need a family sedan. The new FG series is really nice. As much as i've always been a mitsubishi fanboy i wouldnt feel ashamed driving a ford.... I dont think i'd ever want a commodore (unless it was one of those 6.2 litre hsv wagons) And aurion's seem a little pricey for what you get.

and the falcon is the newest.

Yeah, Falcon is a nice car as far as what you get for your money, and the 6 spd is apparently a very nice gearbox... just a shame about the styling of the new model. Very, very average IMO and a step backwards. Prefer the BF styling.

I really like the new Falcon styling. But if their build quality hasn't gone up a lot from the BF I wouldn't touch one.

I really like the new Falcon styling. But if their build quality hasn't gone up a lot from the BF I wouldn't touch one.
You guys might as well forget the FG falcons. Just early this morning, I spotted a FG XR6 falcon in a John Hughes Mitsubishi car yard in Vic Park. I said "WTF?" when I saw it as I walked past it and had to double back to double check that I wasn't halluncinating(sorry for the spelling). It was brand new!! Someone has traded that car for something else which I do not know!

And while I was in the car yard, I have noticed there were heaps of Ford BA to BF models in the car yard. That totally shocked me. But there was one thing that totally blew my mind: A TW Magna in gold colour with only 13xxx kms and for sale for the same price as the 380 SX.

Yeah, Falcon is a nice car as far as what you get for your money, and the 6 spd is apparently a very nice gearbox... just a shame about the styling of the new model. Very, very average IMO and a step backwards. Prefer the BF styling.

I really like the new styling! the base models look good, nothing special, but good. and the XRs look amaing. i saw an ad today for a brand spankin new FG XR6 $36,000 drive away... thats pretty damn impressive! Personally i think a near new 380 vrx or gt would be better value as you can get a full specced model with under 20,000 on it for under $25k But if you were set on a brand new car and a lancer was too small for you, Personally i think the falcon is the best option on the market at the moment (out of Falcon, commo, aurion etc)

The Ford for me looks too much like a larger version of the UK Mondeo, on sale here, which debuted before the new larger Ford models. Neither are a real head turner though the Ford lines do make it look a little smaller. Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of the current Commodore either in the "non-sporty" variants.

I see the Oz Mitsubishi site still lists the ZT on its concept cars page. Not much new on that site to whet the appetite. I don't mind the styling of the Lancer but it is too small for my liking and the current variants don't make me salivate. I'll never be one to buy an off-roader that never leaves the tarmac though the Outlander is a nice enough soft roader. The Pajero would be a waste of engineering but would be my choice if I were a bush basher like my old Army days. I have just over 12 months to wait for something spectacular to come out for around $45K.

hi all at the moment i am trying to get some of those 90 mm air intake snorkels plus the front half of the air box
will find out some time next week have a contact in USA through my work when i do find out i will let every one know
i work for mit's so price should be with out the shipping cost to here put dont quote me on it
cheers liam

hi all at the moment i am trying to get some of those 90 mm air intake snorkels plus the front half of the air box
will find out some time next week have a contact in USA through my work when i do find out i will let every one know
i work for mit's so price should be with out the shipping cost to here put dont quote me on it
cheers liam

Liam help me out mate! I am in Melbourne and very excited to read your post :facejump:

Liam help me out mate! I am in Melbourne and very excited to read your post :facejump:

hi well just got info back i did not like myself to go through work i would have to get them from japan
and they cost $81 for snorkel and $115 for the front half of the air box this is in our money
i am looking at seeing if i can get them freight forward to me from usa

hi well just got info back i did not like myself to go through work i would have to get them from japan
and they cost $81 for snorkel and $115 for the front half of the air box this is in our money
i am looking at seeing if i can get them freight forward to me from usa

:gtfo: They would wanna be a bit cheaper than that, you could buy the snorkel & a K&N here cheaper.

:gtfo: They would wanna be a bit cheaper than that, you could buy the snorkel & a K&N here cheaper.

your not wrong there

hi well from what i have found out i can get the parts shipped on problems from usa but the costs is high will be about $195 in our money
this is for snorkel and front half of air box plus shipping this is for them shipping it to me
which works out to be around the same as getting it in from work which would be for both parts is $196 but from japan /still working on freight forwarding
if i can get it any cheaper i will let every one know
cheers liam

hi well i am going to order 2 of the air intakes part number MN156778 will let every one know what the cost is plus shipping
cheers liam

there about $110 from a dealer from memory.

Three posts, three plugs....mmmmm...

if anyone is still after a 90mm galant intake , there is a seller on ebay, $86 delivered

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-380-high-flow-air-intake-snorkel-galant_W0QQitemZ160342185112QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2555239498&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C 301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Thanks for posting that - it is $83 delivered. I got one - it is not quite Rey Reece USA price but that is no longer an option.

bought one also, still need the front half of the US airbox correct?.
will an aussie mitsu dealer do that?

bought one also, still need the front half of the US airbox correct?.
will an aussie mitsu dealer do that?

I bought the front half originally but a few guys have filed the opening out quite easily to fit the snorkel.

You buggers - he only lives 5 mins away from me and in the time it took for me to ask if I could pick one up, he'd sold all three!

Not to worry though, cos he has a spare which I'm picking up on the weekend - yay! Just need a K&N now. Can anyone link me up?

Cheers

J

Hmmm I wonder if that guy is from here. He seemed to know a lot about the intake - that it has better flow, performance, etc, and also requires K&N filter for best gains.
Except that the intake wasn't designed for the TMR380, it was designed for the Galant (and used on the TMR prototype but NOT on the last 20 that were made).
But to answer Stormie, yes you do need a modified front-half airbox for the intake. You either buy one or change your standard one. When you remove your standard snorkel you can see the round hole which is recessed into a larger tear-drop shaped closed-hole. You need to cut that out to match the shape of the Galant intake. I too was lazy and just bought the airbox from US with the snorkel, but it wouldn't take long to do yourself.
I wouldn't ask the dealer to do it - then they'll probably start talking about your warranty (even though the mod won't effect your warranty).

yeah i think i will buy one...
just incase i ever need to put the old one back on(cant think of why id want to do that but you never know) found the part number earlier in this thread...
will ask the dealer as they seem pretty cool (same one as fixed fantaysias window the day it broke) and its in there for a 60000 service as we speak.

If I file out the standard box to make the 90mm fit - is there a way of putting the stock intake horn back on? Eg with a larger rubber grommet?

Just thinking that if I have a warranty service it would be good to put the stock horn back on ... i know the warranty risk is next to nothing - just trying to avoid the discussion with the dealer -- if it ever arises...

He seemed to know a lot about the intake, except for the bit in his add about " with this easily bolt on mod". Could have got all his info off here.

Not that he's guilty of anything of course, except his first three post were ebay links, in three different threads, But, it is a good thing if guys here got the intakes.

I wonder where his installation links lead to? :hmmm:

And on topic, we are not aware of a reversal after modding the airbox.

guys - I don't have a hand file - could i use an electric drill to shave away the box?

guys - I don't have a hand file - could i use an electric drill to shave away the box?

i reckon a bit of patience and tracking down the right front half might be better. i will be looking into it over the next few days. my mitsu dealer went "you want a what..." so not much help there. however i didnt have the part number on me so that might have helped. if i get any news ill pass it on

Ladies and Gentleman,

It appears that it is now possible to order from the US again with happy Australian based customers posting in another forum. The link is http://www.rchillmitsu.com

The part numbers if needed are:
Air intake "snorkel" component: MN156778
Front half of air filter box: MN180008

On the other forum one user got both parts for:

Subtotal: $85.94
Shipping: $45.00
Tax: $0.00
------------------------
Total: $130.94

guys - I don't have a hand file - could i use an electric drill to shave away the box?


Rpro,

I used a Stanley knife to do mine. Whittled it away bit by bit. Took about an hour. As long as you're careful and don't try to slice off too much at a time it works, I ended up with a nice smooth finish & a perfect fit.

KJ.

Rpro,

I used a Stanley knife to do mine. Whittled it away bit by bit. Took about an hour. As long as you're careful and don't try to slice off too much at a time it works, I ended up with a nice smooth finish & a perfect fit.

KJ.

I used a file to do mine. I went to one of those $2 stores and got a set of 3 files which did the trick. Also took me about an hour and got a nice snug finish.

Thanks guys for the tips

if anyone is still after a 90mm galant intake , there is a seller on ebay, $86 delivered

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-380-high-flow-air-intake-snorkel-galant_W0QQitemZ160342185112QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2555239498&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C 301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50



You buggers - he only lives 5 mins away from me and in the time it took for me to ask if I could pick one up, he'd sold all three!

Not to worry though, cos he has a spare which I'm picking up on the weekend - yay! Just need a K&N now. Can anyone link me up?

Cheers

J



he advised me he is getting more this week Might get me one

i used a gas soldering iron that had a hot knife attachment, took like 10 mins tops. Just be patient, beats paying for a US airbox you dont really need.

he has 6 more

I just got one of the 7

so if you need one jump on ebay and grab it

Fitted and love the growl

more rasp hehehehehe

Check out RC Hill Mitsubishi on Ebay, staes on his items the huge request from Australia Link http://motors.shop.ebay.com/rchillmitsubishi/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=

Gotta love this blurb on the ad page (go to page 4 of the link):

Integrated design.

Helps you see your way through fog.
Factory installed appearance.
Customization
Proper Fit

Helps you see your way through fog??????????????

This sure is one special intake!

KJ.

Well I was a little amused when I saw that myself.

Check out RC Hill Mitsubishi on Ebay, staes on his items the huge request from Australia Link http://motors.shop.ebay.com/rchillmitsubishi/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=

and huge delay in supply when I tried!!

and huge delay in supply when I tried!!

yep me too thats why last galant intake i bought one got off an australian ebay seller with no hassles.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-380-high-flow-air-intake-snorkel-galant_W0QQitemZ160363847893QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item25566e20d5&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_500wt_1182

so thats the 90mm?

Thats the one. If you bought one of those, you'll need to chop out a bit of the front of your airbox. Read some of the above linked to threads for info about that.

I suppose this 90mm intake will only improve power during WOT due to the bigger opening and not during normal driving.

I suppose this 90mm intake will only improve power during WOT due to the bigger opening and not during normal driving.

The 90mm intake will improve responsiveness during normal driving. You will notice a fair diffrence :happy:

I suppose this 90mm intake will only improve power during WOT due to the bigger opening and not during normal driving.

Fitted mine yesterday finally. You will notice a difference in any driving condition...well worth it!

The 90mm intake will improve responsiveness during normal driving. You will notice a fair diffrence :happy:

+1 on that Braedz I notice it in Grandpa mode lol

Does anyone know of any suppliers in New Zealand? They would have the 90mm intake and the airbox i assume? Should be cheaper with the au $..

Does anyone know of any suppliers in New Zealand? They would have the 90mm intake and the airbox i assume? Should be cheaper with the au $..

Tried NZ and no, it is cheaper to get it off Ebay or for that matter from the USA.

I just fitted the US galant intake and lower airbox tonight and can't say (from a very short test drive afterwards) that i could notice much difference in grunt, but the car seemed to change into higher gears at lower revs - could easily be imagining this though...

I'm mostly hoping to get a few extra kms per tank - we'll see how that goes over the coming weeks. What I did find surprising is just how much louder the induction sound is over the standard aussie intake. I can't say I particularly like the extra noise - I'm already thinking of trying to fit the little resonator chamber from the aussie snorkel to the galant one to see if it helps... makes me appreciate the changes mitsubishi made to the aussie version to make it quieter.

One question though - the lower airbox section i bought has an oval lip that lines up with the bottom resonator chamber, but the inlet is blocked off - can anyone else with the Galant lower airbox section confirm this? I know there was a standard (which I ordered) and Ralliart version of the lower airbox - I'm wondering if there is any difference between the two, as mine has a clearly defined oval section in the moulding where the hole is on the aussie version - it's just sealed off...

Cheers,
Adam.

I just fitted the US galant intake and lower airbox tonight and can't say (from a very short test drive afterwards) that i could notice much difference in grunt, but the car seemed to change into higher gears at lower revs - could easily be imagining this though...

I'm mostly hoping to get a few extra kms per tank - we'll see how that goes over the coming weeks. What I did find surprising is just how much louder the induction sound is over the standard aussie intake. I can't say I particularly like the extra noise - I'm already thinking of trying to fit the little resonator chamber from the aussie snorkel to the galant one to see if it helps... makes me appreciate the changes mitsubishi made to the aussie version to make it quieter.

One question though - the lower airbox section i bought has an oval lip that lines up with the bottom resonator chamber, but the inlet is blocked off - can anyone else with the Galant lower airbox section confirm this? I know there was a standard (which I ordered) and Ralliart version of the lower airbox - I'm wondering if there is any difference between the two, as mine has a clearly defined oval section in the moulding where the hole is on the aussie version - it's just sealed off...

Cheers,
Adam.

Adam,

Haven't heard of this difference before.

I reckon your extra induction noise is due to the lower resonator intake being blocked off, and not the snorkel itself.

That's the whole point of the lower resonator, to reduce induction noise.

When I first fitted my 90mm snorkel I didn't notice any increase in induction noise at all.

If you want to keep the US front half of the airbox (with the larger intake hole designed for the 90mm snorkel), but you want to get the induction noise back to how it was before, then you could try cutting out the lower resonator hole where it is blanked off.

Or else you could put the Aussie front airbox back on and cut out the 90mm snorkel hole instead, like many of us have done.

KJ.

I reckon your extra induction noise is due to the lower resonator intake being blocked off, and not the snorkel itself.

Yeah, I was wondering about that - I didn't have the time or inclination last night to cut the section out where it lines up to the lower resonator chamber, but I'll give it a go over the weekend and see how much difference it makes.

Cheers,
Adam.

It is an easy mod to do the aussie version of the air box as there is a lip there that just needs to be removed. Methods vary from rasping and filing, to hot knife, to what I did (snap it off with a pair of pliers!) brutal but worked extremely well. There are photos available, http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56400&highlight=90mm+intake&page=33

I'm already thinking of trying to fit the little resonator chamber from the aussie snorkel to the galant one to see if it helps

You're talking about the lower resonator, right? That should be the same for both versions of intake. I fitted the US 90mm snorkel to a US airbox front (which I bought both at same time). I didn't touch the lower resonator; it stayed in place. I'm guessing your extra noise is coming from the hole where this resonator is removed from; just fitting the larger top intake won't make any extra noise (didn't for me), although I did find that by removing the main snorkel makes a HELL of a lot of noise (but that's a different story).

You're talking about the lower resonator, right? That should be the same for both versions of intake. I fitted the US 90mm snorkel to a US airbox front (which I bought both at same time). I didn't touch the lower resonator; it stayed in place. I'm guessing your extra noise is coming from the hole where this resonator is removed from; just fitting the larger top intake won't make any extra noise (didn't for me), although I did find that by removing the main snorkel makes a HELL of a lot of noise (but that's a different story).

no, i actually meant the very small resonator that is attached to the underside of the aussie version intake snorkel (at least on my series 3 there is one). It's riveted to the underside of the snorkel and if you look inside the snorkel opening, there's a small hole (about 1cm diameter) opening into this chamber.

I doubt it would quell much noise - i suspect as kj380 said, the main increase in sound is coming from the fact that the hole to the bottom resonator chamber (off the lower airbox section and which I have left in place) is blocked off on the US version.

At WOT, the extra induction sound is nice but under moderate load, it's just a little annoying

I havent noticed much extra noise at all (either that or I am deafer than the rest of you). Ads If the resonator chamber hole is blocked up then I would open it up post haste! If you have opened up the resonator chamber then open the end at the bottom in the inner guard as well. This will help it breathe a lot better too.

Hi guys,

I was interested in getting the US Galant intake, which I believe is this one (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-380-high-flow-air-intake-snorkel-galant-/150466174891?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23087b9fab) (please correct me if I am wrong).

I was also wondering where to purchase the US airbox and the suggested K&N filter? Would they need to be ordered from US?

Cheers,
Zolt

Hi guys,

I was interested in getting the US Galant intake, which I believe is this one (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-380-high-flow-air-intake-snorkel-galant-/150466174891?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23087b9fab) (please correct me if I am wrong).

I was also wondering where to purchase the US airbox and the suggested K&N filter? Would they need to be ordered from US?

Cheers,
Zolt

you dont need to buy the US box,just cut our one to suit.......its pretty simple when you have it in your hands...as for the K&N....its debatable as to its true worth.....IMOA

I believe the eBay seller is an AMC member (or maybe ex-member) and the price he is asking is fair.

As Maggie says, you don't need the US front half of the airbox, it's not cheap and it's easy to cut/drill/file the stock inlet hole to size to fit the Galant intake, plenty of us have done it. Some have decided they don't want to 'butcher' their stock airbox and want to keep the stock parts intact in case they ever go back to stock, so have been happy to spring extra for the US import. I can't see the point myself, once you fit the 90mm intake you'll never want to go back to stock, it looks better as well, and it's really a factory option (the TMR 380 uses it) so it won't effect warranty.

You can get the K&N filter from Repco (they may have to order it in) for the same or less than you will pay to get it from the US. Around $110.

Pretty much agreed that it doesn't improve airflow or power over the stock filter. No better, but no worse either.

It's main advantage is that it will last the life of the car with reasonably regular cleaning & oiling (go easy on the oil, just a very light coat!) and save you the cost of replacement stock filters.

It's main disadvantage is that it's not that good at filtering very fine dust (e.g. outback bulldust), not as good as the stock filter, so you should keep your stock filter and fit it whenever you think you will be driving through lots of fine dust. Two minute job to swap filters.

KJ.

It's main disadvantage is that it's not that good at filtering very fine dust (e.g. outback bulldust), not as good as the stock filter, so you should keep your stock filter and fit it whenever you think you will be driving through lots of fine dust. Two minute job to swap filters.

KJ.

only twice in sydney have I had bulldust

both times were with the dust storms that are rarer than hens teeth

Hi guys,

I was interested in getting the US Galant intake, which I believe is this one (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-380-high-flow-air-intake-snorkel-galant-/150466174891?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23087b9fab) (please correct me if I am wrong).

I was also wondering where to purchase the US airbox and the suggested K&N filter? Would they need to be ordered from US?

Cheers,
Zolt

I bought this exact item of the same seller about 3 - 4 weeks ago, and can verify that it is the 90 mm intake , delivered quickly with no fuss or issue,
Easy to fit , just have to cut out the (already marked out) 90mm section around the stock intake and fits straight in (plastic is thick and hard so a Dremel would be the best way to remove excess, I had sleeping wife and kids in house, so had to use stanley knife which was a lot of work) I also heated the bottom of the front flare to flatten it against the bodywork better as it was bowed slighlty inward restricting the bellmouth size

Edit: I just bought the K&N from Burson Auto Parts for $95, took 3 days to order in

Thanks for the info guys. Thanks to zarbs I have a front airbox and intake on the way. I had another couple of quick questions, in regards to the air filter, would you guys recommend buying it from modyourcar or rpw? Eg:

http://www.modyourcar.com.au/kn-replacement-panel-filter--20042009-mitsubishi-380-and-galant-p6413?&aff=sw
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=1307&category_id=76&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1

Also, I've heard people mentioning something about oiling the filter, what does that mean?

One last thing, I don't really want to add any extra noise to the car, does this replacement intake add any noticeable engine noise?

Cheers,
Zolt

Thanks for the info guys. Thanks to zarbs I have a front airbox and intake on the way. I had another couple of quick questions, in regards to the air filter, would you guys recommend buying it from modyourcar or rpw? Eg:

http://www.modyourcar.com.au/kn-replacement-panel-filter--20042009-mitsubishi-380-and-galant-p6413?&aff=sw
http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=1307&category_id=76&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1

Also, I've heard people mentioning something about oiling the filter, what does that mean?

One last thing, I don't really want to add any extra noise to the car, does this replacement intake add any noticeable engine noise?

Cheers,
Zolt


lol.....are you kidding,apart from the better breathing that this intake gives,it is the NOISE that it makes..if you dont want noise,then save your money now....

From other posts I have read, people have said there is no noise increase. I don't mind some extra noise, it's just that I modded the life out of my last car, and the extra noise drove me crazy...

Before doing any other mods like exhaust and boost...
I'll be brave and say I couldn't hear any extra noise,
and couldn't feel any performance increase with a normally aspirated 380 after fitting the larger snorkel......

Just my opinion....

Before doing any other mods like exhaust and boost...
I'll be brave and say I couldn't hear any extra noise,
and couldn't feel any performance increase with a normally aspirated 380 after fitting the larger snorkel......

Just my opinion....

Yep, I agree with this. I noticed more of a performance gain with the berklee muffler than the 90mm intake. Once I fitted the 90mm intake, it did improve responsiveness, but I didnt notice any other performance increase.

I don't recall any extra noise either although definitely better throttle response & in my opinion once the ecu adjusts a bit more go ...... but I did already have an exhaust.

The filter will be pre-oiled when you get it......come time to clean it you can grab a k&n kit that comes with cleaner & oil....most the usual auto stores stock them & the filters.
Theres no real gain with the k&n's performance wise.
The bigger intake is a good place to start with approx. 4 kw's & 5nm's.....it all helps! .......extra induction noise is negligible.

Seems to be different experiences/opinions about whether or not the 90mm snorkel results in much of an increase in induction noise. Most of us (me included) didn't notice much increase at all, others seem to hear a big increase. Maybe it all depends on what exhaust mods you have made - stock exhaust = noticable increase in noise, modified/louder exhaust = no noticable increase in noise. But little doubt that if you completely remove the snorkel and/or the lower resonator there is a big increase in noise, especially at WOT.

So my advice is give it a go, what have you got to lose, if it ends up making too much noise for your liking then stick the stock snorkel back on (seeing as you are getting the modified front half of the airbox as well) and sell the 90mm one - plenty of buyers out there.

I seem to recall that the small intake was fitted to reduce the "drive by noise" as measured from the footpath.

Perfectly reasonable to not notice anything inside the luxury sound proofed 380 cabin me thinks.

I added a 60mm snorkel in place of the lower resonator first, and this definately increased induction noise (not so much the actual volume, just more induction warble. i.e. not really that much MORE sound , more like DIFFERENT ("throaty") sound). Adding the 90mm intake after this caused hardly noticable diff in the sound , as probably most was already caused by the lower pipe, much like the guys who did the exhaust first

I Finally got around to fitting mine on the weekend, definatley no extra noise. The car just feels better, fuel consumption seems better as well. Was the easiest mod by far. Now time to change the muffler.

The muffler is where you will really notice a change.

The muffler is where you will really notice a change.

and what was that Berklee part number again.....???????????

and what was that berklee part number again.....???????????

bs0655.

Edit phail.

It should be capital B capital S but for some reason it won't accept and reverts to lower case.

bs0655.

Edit phail.

It should be capital B capital S but for some reason it won't accept and reverts to lower case.


cheers...going to Dynamic Exhaust tomorrow...though it is a bit of a worry when he was waffling about the 380 having a "ralliart " system on it and that the GT had a super sports exhaust system,to which i replied...na there all the same,and then he said,no there not ...mmm

Exhaust fitter FAIL ..... go somewhere else lol

cheers...going to Dynamic Exhaust tomorrow...though it is a bit of a worry when he was waffling about the 380 having a "ralliart " system on it and that the GT had a super sports exhaust system,to which i replied...na there all the same,and then he said,no there not ...mmm

It's really surprising how mechanics etc quote magna prices/parts/information and keep bullsh***ing hoping you wont notice. I remember when I got my car serviced this one time and they "didnt have the 380 on their system" so the quote they gave me was for a magna =.=. turned out the 380 actually was a different car and they charged me a extra $100 odd for parts and labour. Haven't been back since..

Also I fitted the galant intake about a month ago and haven't really noticed much of a difference other than the car being a bit more revv happy. No real change in intake noise either.

I finally received the air intake box yesterday and fitted the 90mm snorkel. There's definitely an inprovement to throttle response and possibly more grunt when accelerating (could be placebo though). As long as there's a reduction in fuel ussage than I'll be happy. I've always owned 4 cylinder cars prior to this and the increase in fuel costs was quite a shock.

Everyone-
There is clear documented evidence the 90mm intake produces more power for the 6G75. It is in NZ 380GT/VRX power graphs from Mitsubishi and proven by me some time ago on a dyno.

You may or may not feel the diffeerence but you are comparing a small increase to total overall power.

Everyone-
There is clear documented evidence the 90mm intake produces more power for the 6G75. It is in NZ 380GT/VRX power graphs from Mitsubishi and proven by me some time ago on a dyno.

You may or may not feel the diffeerence but you are comparing a small increase to total overall power.

The NZ 380's were advertised as having 180kw at the fly yeah?

Well since fitting mine 1 month ago i have noticed an increase in economy, not by much but an increase. So much nicer to drive, don't believe my driving style has changed.

Guys, just a question. Is it worth replacing my stock air filter with a K&N when I do the headers?

Guys, just a question. Is it worth replacing my stock air filter with a K&N when I do the headers?

Braedz,

Lots of debate on this subject, see this thread: KN Filter (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69944&pagenumber=)

Some say it provides a small power boost over the stock paper filter (mainly Knotched), others can't feel or measure any difference (I'm one of these).

The main benefit is that it's reuseable and should last the life of the car providing you clean it regularly and oil it properly (don't over oil it). Saves you around $30 a pop on new OEM filters. You don't need to buy the expensive K&N cleaning fluid, ordinary dishwashing liquid works fine, but you do need to use the K&N filter oil. So it depends on how long you intend to keep your 380.

Only known downside is that it's not so good at filtering very fine dust like bulldust, or the dust you get in a duststorm.

Guys, just a question. Is it worth replacing my stock air filter with a K&N when I do the headers?


Don't do it mate, the head mechanic at TMR chewed me out for putting one on, said they were an utter waste of time.
When they tried them in the Evo's due to one drivers' insistance they had wildly differing qualifying times, with the best time simply equalling the stock paper filter.

Buy something more proven at power enhancement like Peter Brock's "Energy Polarizer" and stick it against the firewall under the bonnet, making sure it faces East/West...).........;)


.

i've got a K&N purely so i don't have to buy replacement stock ones anymore..
planning on keeping the car a while , so it was more cost effective..

on the performance difference , Meh.

If I was still N/A I would run a K&N again. Maybe minimal power increase if any but it definately improves throttle response which is all part of the driving experience. The long term cost savings are also a bonus.

If I was still N/A I would run a K&N again. Maybe minimal power increase if any but it definately improves throttle response which is all part of the driving experience. The long term cost savings are also a bonus.


make sure you put an inline filter to the Sprintex 3 bar map sensor vacuum line then....cause the oil fouls it up.

...... or use less oil lol ..... or better still get an oil free filter like my pod ;)