My new car will be at my place in a week or two depending on the buyer as he is a local volunteer fire fighter so I won't push him.

Have seen the car and a mate has checked it out and all seems above board I hope :redface:

If anything it's still a bargin just some work needs doing like color matching the bonnet and left guard, re-gas the air-con, detailing, new winscreen. Will no more once I have it home in the next week or two.

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Hmmm, engine replaced with a 3.5L yet still has the TE 3.0L silver front rocker cover.....

And he cant say the KE 3.5L had the silver, cos its black.....if your swappng a whole engine, why keep the rocker covers from the old one?

no offence,

looks like a bomb

but a cheap one at that

Looks a bit dodge right now, but will look sweeeeet after paint job, parras and lowering!!

no offence,

looks like a bomb

but a cheap one at that


None taken as you haven't seen it in person but it all looks ok I was expecting allot worse before I looked at it.



Looks a bit dodge right now, but will look sweeeeet after paint job, parras and lowering!!


You bet just some work and she'll be right mate. It's already been lowered.

By the time you have spent money on it to make it look presentable and roadworthy you could have probably gone to a yard or bought one privately that was in good nick for less money...

did you check the engine number to make sure its a 3.5?

Whats the go with rocker covers?
I just brought a te wagon from the wreckers & it had a black rocker cover on it.
There was also te sedan beside it & it had a sliver rocker cover.
Both engines were 6g72.

yeah it's a 3.5 the magna it came out of was just down the road at the mechanics it was hit in the rear and had very low k's He just wanted the silver cover back on as he didn't like the black cover and I agree it's to much black and too easy to see all that dust on black.

He's concerned about the colour of a rocker cover, however he has replaced panels on the exterior of his car with other colours.

I call BS.

He's concerned about the colour of a rocker cover, however he has replaced panels on the exterior of his car with other colours.

I call BS.
I dont see anything weird with that at all....
As long as the engine number is a 74 and the rest of the car is in good nick....Seems like an oright purchase
color matching the bonnet and left guard = $500?++
re-gas the air-con = $80
detailing = $30-$300
new windscreen. $180

And he said his mate is gonna help him do the painting. Seems like an OK buy to me specially being 3.5L :cool:

']I dont see anything weird with that at all....
As long as the engine number is a 74 and the rest of the car is in good nick....Seems like an oright purchase
color matching the bonnet and left guard = $500?++
re-gas the air-con = $80
detailing = $30-$300
new windscreen. $180

And he said his mate is gonna help him do the painting. Seems like an OK buy to me specially being 3.5L :cool:

Where are you getting a windscreen for $180? And I'd be careful with the aircon needing a regas, I bought my first car with aircon that "just needed a regas". Turned out there were leaks in the system and it needed replacing.

Meh, ive bought worse than that and turned em into pearls.

If you have the knowledge and tools, or contacts, you'll end up with a cheap ride.

Bonnets and gaurds are easy as to paint as theres no blending in to do. Just get a good match.
I just get acrylic from autobahn, give her 3 coats and 2 of clear and shes as good as.
Shop around for the regas, my last one was $70 incl dye and oil.
Windscreens can be repaired, ive got a local guy who works as a GT Glass franchisee, cheap and bloody good.

Should turn out fine. :D

Where are you getting a windscreen for $180? And I'd be careful with the aircon needing a regas, I bought my first car with aircon that "just needed a regas". Turned out there were leaks in the system and it needed replacing.
Err windscreens O brien :s
Not that up to scratch with AC but if it was a leak in a hose they are a piece of piss to replace.

']Err windscreens O brien :s
Not that up to scratch with AC but if it was a leak in a hose they are a piece of piss to replace.

We had the windscreen replaced on my sisters Magna not a week ago, was $350ish.

And my AC compressor was leaking, not a hose.

My TH windscreen was $120 fitted ..... anyways I'd wind down the windows for aircon if that just needs a regas
I'll eat a small labrador with chilli sauce.

Got to laugh at the detailing cost ...... $100 max cash but do it yourself and it'll cost $20. Try the Kitten cut and polish and then give it a wax with the Kitten gear.

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ps I love cheap cars there much more fun than new ones

Hmmm, engine replaced with a 3.5L yet still has the TE 3.0L silver front rocker cover.....

And he cant say the KE 3.5L had the silver, cos its black.....if your swappng a whole engine, why keep the rocker covers from the old one?

The KE also had a Silver front cover, I now this for sure as the front cover on my TF is from a KE so I can use the engine cover. Just because someone swapped a cover does not reduce the engine capacity. As Paul said, if it is a 6g74 it is a 3.5 so who cares about the cover. I personally prefer the silver cover as breaks up all the black

Dont polish intil painted, altough you can get away with no blend you are still better blending back into the door and lh guard to get a better colour match.

Yeah, you could spend a few more bucks on a yard car then again you could buy a yard car and end up with a lot worse as well. A lot of yards do dodgy RWC and you can end up with a new rack, rocker cover gaskets, major service and then is gone another $1500 in a flash. Plus there is the thrill in bringing a car back from the brink of pick a part to life agian, I should know look at mine lol

Looks like a reasonable buy. If you need any bits let me know as I have a TF in bits in my back yard. Have a good shand muffler here, have cat, have main pipe also if needed

looks like a good buy, once you get it all cleaned up + painted it should be sweet

The KE also had a Silver front cover, I now this for sure as the front cover on my TF is from a KE so I can use the engine cover. Just because someone swapped a cover does not reduce the engine capacity.

My KE had black. And this rocker cover is now on BJ31OS's TF so he can verify......


Just because someone swapped a cover does not reduce the engine capacity.

How sure are you of this? I thought the only difference between the 3L and the 3.5L was the rocker cover. :doubt:


The part I dont understand is why replace exterior panels with other colours, but apparently the guy "hated all the black" under the bonnet......so it doesnt matter if I have silver and blue and yellow panels on my car...as long as there isnt too much black under the hood.......I suspect he's replaced it with a 3.0L from another TE...but who knows.....until we get info.....

the guy "hated all the black" under the bonnet......so it doesnt matter if I have silver and blue and yellow panels on my car...as long as there isnt too much black under the hood.......
:bowrofl:

My KE had black. And this rocker cover is now on BJ31OS's TF so he can verify......



How sure are you of this? I thought the only difference between the 3L and the 3.5L was the rocker cover. :doubt:


The part I dont understand is why replace exterior panels with other colours, but apparently the guy "hated all the black" under the bonnet......so it doesnt matter if I have silver and blue and yellow panels on my car...as long as there isnt too much black under the hood.......I suspect he's replaced it with a 3.0L from another TE...but who knows.....until we get info.....

Gas Head, you have not clue at all, do you.

So what about the other half a litre, is this contained in the paint?

I have been working on these cars since they came into prouction.

It is also possible that your KE had a new cover on it for some reason too you know

TE - KE all had the silver front with exception to a few at the end of the KE run

KF - TF onwards were all black

As for the guard, think outside your mindset for a minute. When you put in a new motor, 6 bolts and 2 hoses later a new cover is on. THis was poss done way before the accident as well. Front end, once you replace then you have to paint. The paint is far more than the cost of the rocker cover gasket

Now he may only still have the 3.0 in the car, who knows but I am sure once he has the car the engine number will be revieled so we will all know

Until then, be happy for the OP in getting a car he is obviously hapy to have

TE - KE all had the silver front with exception to a few at the end of the KE run
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Mal wins ;)

Congrats on your purchase buddy!


We had the windscreen replaced on my sisters Magna not a week ago, was $350ish.
I daresay you got ripped. I got quoted $170 over the phone for replacement of mine. I didn't need one, was part of my research when deciding on what insurance/options to go for.

TE - KE all had the silver front with exception to a few at the end of the KE run

Mine was May 97, so right near the end.

However he does still have the 3.0L rocker cover.....the 3.5L does not have Mitsu 24Valve etc written on it

Oh and you are correct Mal I have no *********** clue at all...whats a Magna :gtfo:

3.0 heads, rocker covers are all interchangable so what is your issue.

The rocker cover does not mean that the engine is not 3.5. as I said, 6 bolts and 2 hoses it is changed.

As I have a silver one from a KE on my 3.0 TF must mean I now drive a KE Verada, damn and I thought the climate control would morph into my dash when I put the rocker cover on :nuts:

Gee the rocker cover is such a big deal not for me I tend to agree I like the silver better myself.

I will verify the engine number when I have the car Saturday.

Oh here's a shocker the guy is a Police Officer / Volunteer Fire Fighter. :2cool:

Oh damn, this will mean that it is actually a 2.4 and should have a pink front rocker cover. You have been done mate bit time lol

Seriuosly though, you look to have picked a good car as I stated before, all the best

I daresay you got ripped. I got quoted $170 over the phone for replacement of mine. I didn't need one, was part of my research when deciding on what insurance/options to go for.

We just called Obriens and $370 was the quote we were given.

Personally I don't give a crap how much is costs since I've got free windscreen replacement with my insurrance, but will be a bit bummed if my sister got dogged.

We just called Obriens and $370 was the quote we were given.

Personally I don't give a crap how much is costs since I've got free windscreen replacement with my insurrance, but will be a bit bummed if my sister got dogged.

Yeah i was about the same i believe! 340 i think to do mine from windscreens O'Brien.

Ahh wats it matter. its just a color. You cant even see it when driving...

Hmmm Orange Injectors...appears to be a 3.5.

However my original argument still stands.....why not just drop in a 3.5, why **** around changing rockers etc??????

Hmmm Orange Injectors...appears to be a 3.5.

However my original argument still stands.....why not just drop in a 3.5, why **** around changing rockers etc??????

Early KE engine perhaps?

We just called Obriens and $370 was the quote we were given.

Personally I don't give a crap how much is costs since I've got free windscreen replacement with my insurrance, but will be a bit bummed if my sister got dogged.

this made me giggle. daresay i'd be upset if my sister got dogged too :P cheap car looks like fun dude!! good luck with, and shake the dudes hand for me when he drops it off, top job those guys are doing.

All this fuss over a TE with a 3.5L engine that has a silver rocker cover :bowrofl: Nice one guys, AMC wins again.

Whats the engine number? That will fix the 3.0/3.5 arguement...

$185 for a new windscreen for the VZ, from O'Briens. that's trade price though, retail was $380 - $400. So yea your sister got dogged, cos they just upped their profit a touch :)

got my windscreen replaced and it cost $120 FITTED so your sis got ripped


Back to the topic the car seems like a good chunk of metal to make a nice piece of magna out of. great bargin mate.

Good news car came early and is in my yard :D .

Now to settle this 3.0/3.5ltr engine thing exactly how do I know this is a 3.5 is if the engine number starts with 6G72 ? is this right ?
6g72 = 3.0L
6G74 = 3.5L

I now see this settled as a 3.5ltr engine has the engine number starts with 6G74 :dancin: and the other reason why the cover were swapped was because the black cover had flaky paint and he didn't like the black cover in the first place and I agree I don't like it either too much black going on in the engine bay.

don't let gas head read this. knowing the guy changed the rocker cover due to not liking too much black and now the flakey paint storey surely this thread is going to go on for years to come.

don't let gas head read this. knowing the guy changed the rocker cover due to not liking too much black and now the flakey paint storey surely this thread is going to go on for years to come.


I now see this settled as a 3.5ltr engine has the engine number starts with 6G74 :dancin: and the other reason why the cover were swapped was because the black cover had flaky paint and he didn't like the black cover in the first place and I agree I don't like it either too much black going on in the engine bay.

PS. I have also discovered that the transmission was reco'd 14mths ago another bounes.

Original owner was a douchebag. Seriously.....odd exterior panels but as long as the rocker cover paint is ok then its time to cruise..... :gtfo:

Original owner was a douchebag. Seriously.....odd exterior panels but as long as the rocker cover paint is ok then its time to cruise..... :gtfo:

You are the douchebag mate, ever taken a second to think that perhaps the engine was put in before the car was hit by a roo.....perhaps not as this would take the ability to think which is clearly not a skill that is available here

Back to the car, mate, you have got yourself a good car, low mileage 3.5, reco trans. If you put some time and patience into the job there is really no reason you could not paint the bits yourself. Take the fuel cap into a paint shop and they will be able to get a fairly good match.

You are the douchebag mate, ever taken a second to think that perhaps the engine was put in before the car was hit by a roo.....perhaps not as this would take the ability to think which is clearly not a skill that is available here

Then why if he was so anal about a rocker cover (assuming this was first) would be be so lax about the colour of the exterior panels down the track?

Please think of this and get back to me cos apparently Im a douchebag (awesome admin skills there btw, see below) and lack the ability to think of this for myself.


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Oh I am hurt now sweety.

Ever stop to think that perhaps the guy was just to busy to do the paint or he put the panels to sell the car knowing that painting them would be money he would not get back in the sale etc etc?

Just leave it be Gas Head, you were wrong from the very start, if you can not accept that, build a bridge and get over it once and for all.

Oh and if calling you what you called yourself in the first place is such abuse, wow I recon that 90$ of members on these forums should no longer be here anymore. Also seems you took so much effort to find the rules, put some of that effort into getting your facts right about the differences between the various models and then you will not end up in a situation like this where you are wrong and then have to try and defend yourself despite you just digging yourself deeper and deeper

Oh I am hurt now sweety.

Its OK schnookums, Im sorry.

I dont see where I was wrong though, I asked why somebody would go to that extent with the rockers and it was explained to me. I said KE's had black rockers....which it turns out the had both silver and black but mine being a late model had the black, however this rocker had writing on it which indicated a 3.0L rocker.

Not up until that very last comment did anybody offer a reasonable explanation to my question about why he's anal about one thing and not another.

"Ever stop to think that perhaps the guy was just to busy to do the paint or he put the panels to sell the car knowing that painting them would be money he would not get back in the sale etc etc?"

Now there is a reasonable answer to my question then I guess Im done in this thread.....unless you can show me where I was so drastically wrong?

Fair enough

You may wish to start here



And he cant say the KE 3.5L had the silver, cos its black.....if your swappng a whole engine, why keep the rocker covers from the old one?

bahahaha Nah this is class material.:bowrofl: I had an arguement with ts3.0 the other day went like this. However we made up and shook virtual hands..

That snookums remark tho. man I hate smart ass's like that. :doubt:

You are the douchebag mate, ever taken a second to think that perhaps the engine was put in before the car was hit by a roo.....perhaps not as this would take the ability to think which is clearly not a skill that is available here
The engine went in first I thought.

Wikid car man, very enveous.

Hope that aircons not working ..... otherwise I have to go to the pet shop and find myself a labrador. lol

Fun purchase .... have a good time. :)

Did you check the rear rocker cover to double confirm what size it is?:bowrofl:

Looks like a good buy for the cash, should be easy enough to polish up nice :cool:

As for the odd panel argument, I'll just add my two cents (sorry mods)...I used to baby my old car (Blue ED Fairmont) and after I pranged it, due to lack of cash, just threw on a white bonnet and primer bumper with no grille so it wasn't naked. And after priorities in life changing (and me giving the car to mum) i never got around to respraying it, so it still has odd coloured panels.

Life isn't ALL about cars, sometimes other things just take priority. After all, the car is still shmick underneath, so no biggie.

Don't want to start another argument, just thought my story was relevant :redface:

Life isn't ALL about cars, sometimes other things just take priority.

I sold both my children into bondage to a Welsh Coal Mine to pay for my car .... what do you mean life isn't all about cars. The wife is next.....swaps anyone she's quite pretty.

that you may in fact have a 3.25lt magna

Looks like a solid base to make a decent looking car so yeah sounds like you got a good price for it.:)

Your wrong here mate go on carsales and look at the magna's with 3.5ltr engines and they all have "MITSUBISHI V6 24 VALVE" the only ones that don't have this on the rocker cover have it on a plastic cover. Hell looking through the Gregorys Manual that the guy left with the car shows images of the same.

Show me a 3.5L with silver rocker covers with Mitsubishi 24 Valve etc written on them from factory please (apart from yours of course)

Thanks in Advance.

its cheap ill give you that, but it is only a 96 model - 13years old now.
its has a new engine - old one gone..why?
NO RWC
bonnet needs respray
it has seat covers...either the guy has no taste in seat covers or he is trying to hide a rip or stain..did you check?
and he has mentioned it needs a new catalytic converter?

sorry mate your better off spending 2k more atleast and getting with orig engine and without that history.

IMO anyway!

Gas Head, get over it mate, is all done, he has a 3.5

Rocker covers get changed for many reasons, to be painted, to look better, because may be damaged, leaking etc etc

The TE 3.0 had silver front with the 24 valve crap on them
The KE 3.5 had silver front with no writing but had tabs on them for the cover

ALL others were black and came in 2 designs, either with the 24 valve rubbish stamped or the tabs for the cover.

SOme later 3.5 had the black with the stamping as they did not have engine covers

Remember, all the covers can be changed, the basic press for the covers is identical.

Now lets move on......please!

Now back to the OP, I have the cat here if you need it, not sure if you come to Melb often but I may have other bits you may find handy as well

Again, I think you got a reasonable car for a reasonable price so all the best with it. I am sure if you have any questions that MOST of the community can provide you with the correct advice

Thanks for also setting things straight about the covers that guy just doesn't know the facts and keeps ranting :nuts:

I'll be right with the exhuast my bro will replace this for a slab or two he helps run Brothers Exhuast in Geelong.

I will be after a clean chrome grill thou as mine is fading as they do. I really and very rarely go to Melbourne these days unless your on the Geelong side of Melbourne ?

I wouldn't mined some advice on getting these alloy's cleaned up.
Geelong bloke eh? Exhaust Bros did my Pacemaker extractors. Good work at a good price.

I will need either a new steering wheel and airbag or I will have to see about getting them sprayed as the black is comming off and fadey.
Give alscall a PM. He might have a steering wheel and an airbag for sale.

Just to point out, it's an TE Exec and has no airbag.

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You sure look like it has an airbag ? hmm ok thanks will have to take of to be sure as I thought this was an option ?

definitly no air bags in your car....

grab yourself a momo ralliart magna steering wheel.. there is a few floating around ebay

Mate, just inject some glue into the wheel to rebond it.

The Momo ones being discussed are factory wheels, the base wheel and casting on bagged and non bagged wheels is identical, the only difference is what you bolt on afterwards.

Only problem there is that there not road worthy nor is the one in the car as you can twist it hence I'm just after a standard one. I also already have anew sports wheel with blue trim but it will not suite this magna with a grey interior.

I got a quote today to respray the panels of around $400

the momo ralliart wheels are factory fitted to ralliart magnas.. they are roadworthy

Only problem there is that there not road worthy nor is the one in the car as you can twist it hence I'm just after a standard one. I also already have anew sports wheel with blue trim but it will not suite this magna with a grey interior.

I got a quote today to respray the panels of around $400

Ralliart wheels are infact roadworthy :)

They are a factory item.

Ralliart wheel is legal, since they were fitted from factory on many Magnas/Verada, just in case no one mentioned it.

haha love it - 4 responses saying the same thing! Only on AMC!

I feel my intelligence being sapped reading that...

hahaha lol @ haviong clear tail lights then worrying about legality of ralliart wheel

ill spell it out plain and simple for ya here mate

THE RALLIART WHEEL CAME ON THE TJ RALLIART FROM FACTORY

therefore it has to be legal!!

But what's it's size ? I haven't seen one in person but I know if it's 320mm it won't pass unless it's on the car it came out with from the factory.
its the same size as the standard wheel!

i cant understand how you dont get this, its a factory option on the magna, you can get them from mitsubishi (~$1000 IIRC) they are fine, i think sam had his on for RWC?

Ok ih8hsv has comfirmed to me it's a standard size this explains to me why it is legal and will pass RWC now if the wheel was smaller and was not factory fitted to my model magna then no it wouldn't pass a RWC unless you had a mechanic who would turn a blind eye to it. You should also understand the road laws a different in each state.
yep, and in victoria its fine because its not to small which everyone had said and it doesnt have bare exposed metal.

if a car is fitted with a steering wheel any car in that range can have it provided that you dont go from air bag to non airbag.

so your saynig a factory mitsubishi ralliart magna wouldnt pass roadworthy with its factory steering wheel on?


i dont think you thought about this much

you didn't read my reply's properly I stated if it was there from the factory then yes it will pass but if it wasn't and is undersized from the standard then it won't.
Mmmmm. You realise that a factory ralliart wheel shares the same casting as the TE+ so both are identical in the middle when you strip them down, horn pads and airbag are interchangeable and many members have done this with great success including myself on several occasions. I'm fairly sure the Ralliart wheel diameter is 38cm also... Regardless, its the same as the standard wheel albeit with additional bolstered grips and perforated leather inserts.

Now to get things back on track :-

Another thing are these parras a good price or to expensive :- http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....MEWA:IT&ih=025

What about these chrome grills from Ozeparts :-
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I have already in the post clear tail lights, chrome boot garnish, white dials & boot spoiler.

If anything, the clear tails would not pass a proper RWC check

Sigh, those clear tails are horrible... TJ Boot lid + TJ, TL, or aftermarket tails ftw!

looks like you have got a good ride there, $400 is an awesome price for the paint.

sorry I don't know about the parras, stay clear of the tards.

id save money and not bother with the one piece paras, you already have the two piece paras with clears indicators. plus the two piece are a glass lens. I think you got a good deal, cosmetics are easy, as long as its mechanically sound.

where abouts in Vic do you drive it?
i may have seen you on the roads :-S