I can get them for $40 from Supercreep Auto. Seems like a very good price, these are for the 380 brakes. Anyone had any experience with them?

nevermind, seen some bad write-ups on the interwebs. Going with the Bendix General CT's. Double the price, but have had good experience with them on my current single piston calipers. Roll on Sunday!

with a name like that you'd expect them to be very good! :roll:

On a more serious note,what bad wrap did you here.....I've got them, fronts & backs waiting to go on my EB wagon.

I had them on my old daily drive car, they are fine for everyday use but not really any good for heavy braking (towing etc) or spirited drives

I had them on my old daily drive car, they are fine for everyday use but not really any good for heavy braking (towing etc) or spirited drives

thanks Jason.

cheers jason. Yeah I figured that would be the case. I am going to the trouble of fitting 380 brakes, might as well fit half decent pads too

What are people's opinions on bendix ultimate pads, compared to general CT?

All i've really heard about them is that they are good, but dusty.
And how much would a full set cost from autobarn, supercheap, etc?

Full set front and back of ultimates would be about $250-$300

What are people's opinions on bendix ultimate pads, compared to general CT?

All I've really heard about them is that they are good, but dusty.
And how much would a full set cost from autobarn, supercheap, etc?

I got a full set F/R off ebay for $283.00 for a 09/2004 TL AWD VRX. These have the bigger front discs than std 3rd gen Magnas so prices may be cheaper for yours.

Basically you PM the seller Gary ( the-iso-master (413) Up To 50% Off Retail Bendix Brake Pads Here) with the model car you have. He emails back the Bendix brake pad options (with part no's) and his prices.. If you want them he lists them on eBay just for you.
This was the response I received:
Please Find Your Quote Below For DB1223:

Bendix Ultimate's (DB1223ULT) Will Cost You $171.00
Bendix Heavy Duty's (DB1223HD) Will Cost You $70.00
Bendix 4WD’s (DB1223-4WD) Will Cost You $68.00
Bendix CT's (DB1223CT) Will Cost You $59.00

Please Find Your Quote Below For DB1231:

Bendix Ultimate's (DB1231ULT) Will Cost You $112.00
Bendix Heavy Duty's (DB1231HD) Will Cost You $70.00
Bendix 4WD’s (DB1231-4WD) Will Cost You $68.00
Bendix CT's (DB1231CT) Will Cost You $64.00

For Information On Each Brake Pads Type Go To:
http://www.bendix.com.au/PassengerVehicles.aspx

Postage:

Postage Will Cost You $5.30.
($1 For Each Additional Set)

e.g. Bendix Ultimate's (DB1223ULT) $171.00 and Bendix Ultimate's (DB1231ULT) $112.00 = total $283.00 + $6.30 postage = $289.30.


Give hiim a try. email address:

s06-gbfqjfrzje@members.ebay.com.au <s06-gbfqjfrzje@members.ebay.com.au>

Had em on my ED falcon ............... once.

More crap on the wheels than you could poke a stick at, faded bad on mountain roads and wore out quick.

But zero asbestos .................... i'll neva use em again.

all brake pads are zero asbestos. Fart, I guess you were alluding to the only postive of the Ferodo Zeros :badgrin:

all brake pads are zero asbestos. Fart, I guess you were alluding to the only postive of the Ferodo Zeros :badgrin:

Sigh .......................... I miss my asbestos lol :D

Sigh .......................... I miss my asbestos lol :D

Mmmm asbestos lol

The reason why the are called zero is:

Zero Chance of pulling up.

They are seriously POS pads you are better off with fred flinstone brakes then with Ferodo's, only reason why supercrap sell them is that they get them at an insane cost price vs what they sell them at.

The reason why the are called zero is:

Zero Chance of pulling up.

They are seriously POS pads you are better off with fred flinstone brakes then with Ferodo's, only reason why supercrap sell them is that they get them at an insane cost price vs what they sell them at.

Hey theres nothing wrong with ferodo DS2500 and DS3000 pads they are very good for track work and the DS2500 are still streetable enough to be used on the street. :) But they arnt a cheap pad to buy

http://www.vsport.com.au/ecommerce/?categoryID=141

Hey theres nothing wrong with ferodo DS2500 and DS3000 pads they are very good for track work and the DS2500 are still streetable enough to be used on the street. :) But they arnt a cheap pad to buy

http://www.vsport.com.au/ecommerce/?categoryID=141

DS series are good.

Ferodo in general are good, but there mid to low range stuff is epic crap.

What are people's opinions on bendix ultimate pads, compared to general CT?

All i've really heard about them is that they are good, but dusty.
And how much would a full set cost from autobarn, supercheap, etc?

Ive heard that ultimates are best for spirited driving but have a bit more dust and wear out quicker.

I've got general CT on at the moment and they are pretty good. Do well under normal and heavy braking and have hardly any dust.

The Ferodo were popular in the late 80's and early 90's but then there was a massive recall as they were shedding the linings.

I have Ferodo "Formulas" or TS2000`s (depends what you call them) on the front of my TW (with a 380 front brake conversion),and although a sporting pad,have behaved bloody well in day to day stuff,get them warm and they will put you through the window!,not much noise but are a little dusty and seem kind enough on rotors (standard DBA`s),only thing are they are about $100-120 a box trade

http://www.motospecs.com.au/ferodo_P_ff.php

Many blokes/mechanics tell me they wouldnt touch Bendix with a barge poll and some say the same about Ferodo,try what you like and make your own decision

Next change i wanna get a QFM "HPX" compound put on to my old backing plates as ive heard great things about this pad,when i do,ill ley you all know the outcome

Steve

Ive heard that ultimates are best for spirited driving but have a bit more dust and wear out quicker.

I've got general CT on at the moment and they are pretty good. Do well under normal and heavy braking and have hardly any dust.

Bendix are much better mate, sounds like your on the right track :cool:
ive got bendix ultra premiums on atm and theyre great, for your 380brakes i reckon youd wanna go heavy duty at least, possibly the ultimates depending how much u wanna spend...

i cant really justify the 40 buck premium, the general ct's i have are great and hardly any dust. Unlike the brakes on my cousins astra, never seen so much dust in my life

I had Ferodo Excels on my front brakes until a couple of weeks ago and I am glad they are gone, for all the dust they created. They only cost me $30 on ebay, braked well, lasted almost 2 years, but 1-2 weeks after washing my wheels, the fronts would be black. I have RDA pads on now and I can't notice any difference in performance except there is much less dust.

I use the Bendix HDs on my EVO atm. They're a bit dusty, but seem to perform quite well. On the QMD cruise the other day they didn't even seem to get up to operating temps on the few mountain blasts we had. lol

Here in Australia there are only two kinds of Ferodo pads - the rubbish cheap ones like Zero and Excel and the high performance like FF,2000 and 3000. I fitted Excel and found they were good for one stop, then zero brakes for 10 min. Hate to think what Zeros would be like. In Europe Ferodo have pads like Bendix Ultimate and EBC Greenstuff. Many European cars come stock with Ferodo pads. Ferodo are also fitted on some of the big brake upgrade packages from Ford, FPV and Holden, HSV.

Bendix can have problems too. I've bought Bendix pads that I had to get replaced because right out of the box the pad material was cracking away from the backing plate. Also had pads that almost new started to chew up a rotor. I found that when they punched the holes in the backing plate the hole hadn't been punched clean out and quality control was up the creek. So with the metal from the hole still attached the pad material was applied but as soon as the pad did a few kays it wore down to this lump of steel and started ripping up the rotor.

Currently have TRW/Lucas pads. They are very dirty like Ultimates but only half the price. They will fade the first time they are given a hard workout. But if you cycle them to fade and keep driving slowly to let them cool properly and then stop for 30 mins they perform very well next time they are worked hard. They aren't as good as Greenstuff when cold but similar to Ultimates.

I've just had a pad material Ford FPV use for one of their upgrades applied to Magna backing plates and will try it out soon. Its a Kevlar/Aramid low metal material that is low dust, high friction hot and cold and supposed to stop shudder for slotted rotors.

Cheers, Alan

I wouldn't be trusting things FPV do as being good practise. I'm not saying they're rubbish, but FPV brakes are known for terrible fade on the track.

I wouldn't be trusting things FPV do as being good practise. I'm not saying they're rubbish, but FPV brakes are known for terrible fade on the track.

Heheh i know what ya mean there but what he just said above was he had the same "pad material" add to magna backing plates. Now the BA gt's with the larger (than the stock BA brakes) but still only 2 spot calipers used Ferodo DS2500 pad material, im not totally sure what pad compound they used in the brembo equipped BA's and BF's though

Another thing to remember is that a FPV is a fair amount heavier than a magna, so the pad compound FPV use may actually work ok on a magna.

Oh and EBC's i wouldnt piss on there greenstuff and redstuff pads, they are crap on a magna. I'll stick with my current pagid/endless combo that i have and then will be going to DS2500 for street and occasional track use.

You are right Jason. There is a lot more to brakes than pad size and material, rotor size, caliper design etc.

I like Pagid too but at 3x the cost of Ultimates & Greenstuff the price is hard to justify. What Pagid material are you using? I take it this is on a track day car?

Why Endless on one axle? Was it for brake feel or weren't Pagid available to suit the caliper?

I've only ever used Greenstuff on light cars up to about 1300kg and have never had an issue provided they are correctly heat cycled. They are not a track pad, just very good when dead cold and handle fast road use OK. Much better than Ultimates on any car I've compared them on.

The TRW/Lucas are half the price and equal to Ultimates hot, but not as good as Greenstuff when cold. Pedal feel isn't to my liking either, feels a bit "soft".

The new pads I've had made up feel good cold. Haven't given them a workout though yet, so will report on that later.

Redstuff are too expensive so I've never considered them when proven materials like DS3000 are available.

Cheers, Alan