Hey guys.

Quick question... When out on the track, if I have to make a sharp right hand turn fuel ends up coming OUT of the fuel tank. Example

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4345/badz.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/my.php?image=badz.jpg)

What could be causing this? How would I go fixing the problem?

Cap was on TIGHT... as i constantly kept checking it as it has done it a few times.

Thanks in advance.

Rob.

bahahahahahahah FAIL!@

Ok im over it. That sucks vaccuum isn't working in there? Have you used your cap on another magna? When you open your cap at the petrol station does it sound like air is rushing in.

Does anyone have a light??

Try another fuel cap check hoses around filler neck or possibly a hole somewhere....

Where is that lighter????

Regards

Ok im over it. That sucks vaccuum isn't working in there? Have you used your cap on another magna? When you open your cap at the petrol station does it sound like air is rushing in.

Mine makes the air rushing in sound when I open it, is that bad?

do the magnas have an overflow? some older cars do that if you take extremely hard turns

Mine makes the air rushing in sound when I open it, is that bad?

no its good lol

Ok im over it. That sucks vaccuum isn't working in there? Have you used your cap on another magna? When you open your cap at the petrol station does it sound like air is rushing in.

Wow, 2 posts in a row of total crap. you have exceeded all expectations.

There are several hoses from the top of your tank, there are 2 that go up to the filler and it is common for the smaller one of these to split and you will have the exact same issue.

BTW< there is not vac in the fuel tank :nuts: There is a carbon canister in the engine bay, when the tank pressurises the vapour gets stored there and then when you start the engine it will then burn the vapour. As the fuel level drops, the tank sucks fresh air in.

If you look at the pic, the fuel is coming from under the guard, not down the side of it

Wow, 2 posts in a row of total crap. you have exceeded all expectations.

There are several hoses from the top of your tank, there are 2 that go up to the filler and it is common for the smaller one of these to split and you will have the exact same issue.

BTW< there is not vac in the fuel tank :nuts: There is a carbon canister in the engine bay, when the tank pressurises the vapour gets stored there and then when you start the engine it will then burn the vapour. As the fuel level drops, the tank sucks fresh air in.

If you look at the pic, the fuel is coming from under the guard, not down the side of it
Eh mannn you burned me. I always thought anything that has a pressure build up which involves a "sucking" of the air into the tank to happen = vacuum

I had the black line on top of my pump come loose on my old KE (probably my fault, I damaged it taking it off one day) and fuel leaked out onto the driveway after taking it for a drive. Leaked from the same region as yours seems to be.

Pulled the bottom of the rear seat out, took the panel off, reconnected the hose properly and coated the whole area in glue. Never happened again. Good luck to whoever has to take it off though :)

That'd look alright once it touched your brakes! :D

Thanks to who commented on my Fail (like i was unaware) and to the people wanting to burn me alive.

Thanks MadMagna, unfortunatly that photo isnt the best but this one shows it coming out the cap section.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2848/bad2.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bad2.jpg)

Um... I know its definetly coming out the cap section... it leaves a filthy stain and dirt gets attracted to it quit easily. Also Cummins can back me up on the fact it goes out the the cap..

No the cap has never been used on another magna. Its never leaked other then that.

Imagine that hitting hot brake disc! Trails of fire round the track lol

Imagine that hitting hot brake disc! Trails of fire round the track lol
its seems that line is flaming hot today

/punbelievable jokes

Mate, there is a valve inside your cap that may have shat itself, can happen if someone has dropped it at some stage

May be worth getting a new cap and see how you go

What I was looking at was the main bit down the bottom, might be still an idea to look in the inner guard etc to see if you find any evedence. From memory the seal to the rubber boot that holds the filler is not designed to seal very well and some could be coming up through there and the rest under. The fuel at the bottom of the pic looks far too much fuel to be coming down the guard given how hard you are cornering.

Gribbles, mate when you release the cap it is actually built up pressure you are hearing escaping from the tank, not air going in. Thus why on a hotter day it is worse.....

Mate, there is a valve inside your cap that may have shat itself, can happen if someone has dropped it at some stage

May be worth getting a new cap and see how you go

What I was looking at was the main bit down the bottom, might be still an idea to look in the inner guard etc to see if you find any evedence. From memory the seal to the rubber boot that holds the filler is not designed to seal very well and some could be coming up through there and the rest under. The fuel at the bottom of the pic looks far too much fuel to be coming down the guard given how hard you are cornering.

Gribbles, mate when you release the cap it is actually built up pressure you are hearing escaping from the tank, not air going in. Thus why on a hotter day it is worse.....
Do I just get these at Mitsubishi? or like a second hand new one??

no its good lol

phew I was worried also for a second :D

Do I just get these at Mitsubishi? or like a second hand new one??

probuley best to buy a new one from mitsi
cant see them being too expensive

Do I just get these at Mitsubishi? or like a second hand new one??

I have one, where bouts in NSW are you?

Do I just get these at Mitsubishi? or like a second hand new one??

Can get them from Mits, Reptiles or most auto parts stores.

I prefer genuine for these as some of the aftermarket ones are fairly average

30 dollars mitsu. I know due to driving away and leavin it at the servo... :(

30 dollars mitsu. I know due to driving away and leavin it at the servo... :(

That's why there's a place to put the cap inside the fuel flap when filling up, so you don't forget it :P

That's why there's a place to put the cap inside the fuel flap when filling up, so you don't forget it :P
Yea i never knew it was there. Couple of weeks im like. "Wtf is this. ZOmg dan check this out!! does your xr**** have that." Guess the reply.lol

You could try a few servos, just say you left your cap there and get one for nothing :thumbsup:

When i worked in a servo we had stacks of 'em

Ok.... I know its been a while but im still struggling...

I replaced the cap. And not much was doing for a while because I hadnt been out to the track in forever.. Anyways I managed to take a fairly sharp right and its happened again..

Im wondering if anyone could Pretty Please... take a photo of there filler hose thingy with the cap off.. Because I think I may have found out whats going on. I have a slight crack but I dont know If its ment to be the or not lol.

Thanks to anyone that can help.

how about you stick up some pics of the crack so we can see..

how about you stick up some pics of the crack so we can see..

Show us ya crack.............

SuFz

There are several hoses from the top of your tank, there are 2 that go up to the filler and it is common for the smaller one of these to split and you will have the exact same issue.
If you look at the pic, the fuel is coming from under the guard, not down the side of it

The first intelligent comment in this thread! Ignore everything else said!

Stick your head under the rear passenger side of the car and have a look. Perhaps pull the trim off the inside of the boot on that side and have a really good look. Look for loose clamps and split hoses.

OooooooooooKkkkkkkkk!!!.. Sorry this has taken so long but here is a picture of the Fuel neck thingy. If anyone can tell me if thats normal or not that would be great. Thanks,

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3455/1000832z.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/1000832z.jpg/)

If anyone can find anything else out by that photo that would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.
Rob.

Checked my TL and it doesn't have those cracks, although it could be different between the models.

Checked my TH, not there, possible split in the pipe between where you stick the nozzle in and the tank, maybe behind the body work?

Alright then... so how the hell do i fix that? lol

I guess, make sure its bone dry, fill it till 'click', go for a hard right then have a peek where its all wet, around the fill point and up the body work if possibale, or try and buy a new cap from mits and try that, I cant think of much

Cap is new... No fuel comes out underneath the body it all comes out the filler cap.. If i didnt wash the car today i would of shown the stains that run out my filler cap.

Is it visable that fuel is coming out those cracks you posted in the picture?

My TH filler neck isn't split like yours either. I'd imagine that you'd need to replace it.
Here's the fuel tank diagram for the TH taken from the service manual.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh110/caz375/Fueltankdiagram.png

I'd also be checking the vapour hose as well.

Yeah that doesn't look good. You will have too replace the filler neck. Will be a tad fiddlie but chat to Mal as he should have something like that and can tell you how hard it is too fit.

I think you're actually missing a piece!

**went to check mine and compare, took pics**

http://i53.tinypic.com/25a5a0w_th.jpg (http://i53.tinypic.com/25a5a0w.jpg)

It might just be model-difference (my TE and KE are like this) but see where the "crack" (ring/seam) is on mine, its behind the front-most sealing surface.

huh? are you being sarcastic with a witty joke of not having a fuel cap??? just making sure. lol

Edited above post w/further info.

I think you're actually missing a piece!

**went to check mine and compare, took pics**

http://i53.tinypic.com/25a5a0w_th.jpg (http://i53.tinypic.com/25a5a0w.jpg)

It might just be model-difference (my TE and KE are like this) but see where the "crack" (ring/seam) is on mine, its behind the front-most sealing surface.


huh? are you being sarcastic with a witty joke of not having a fuel cap??? just making sure. lolIf you compare your photo with the above, yes the piece seems to be in both where the splits are (expansion ring??) but wacky's seems to have the sealing ring further 'forward' of it than yours? if that makes any sense? look at the two photo's side by side and you should see what I mean.

My theory, flame away, is that the filler cap isn't properly seating against the seal ring, because of the plastic piece with the splits (which I think are meant to be there)

Agreed! Robs appears to be defective.

Mine doesnt have the splits.But more importantly, that inner part where it seals sits much more proud of the rest.

Im so sorry for popping this thread back up. But I thought that everyone should know that.........

ITS FIXED.....

You guys were right about that seal. My mechanic bought a new hose line and everything for it and as he went to replace it he just popped the thing back out.. And hes like.. fixed!.. lol
Have not had trouble since.
Atleast i didnt have to pay for anything haha...

Thanks for everyones input by the way.

Cheers

Rob.

That's why there's a place to put the cap inside the fuel flap when filling up, so you don't forget it :P

Hah well, you learn something new every day. I've been putting mine on the boot, not realising that was there! :P

Hah well, you learn something new every day. I've been putting mine on the boot, not realising that was there! :P

You're joking, right?

SuFz