Is there a great difference in performance between the haltech interceptor and their more expensive systems for an NA car? And when i say NA i mean SF manifold, Exhaust inc extractors, RPW CAI, 70mm TB, 252 degree duration cams with cam gears and possibly a few things done to heads eg deshroud, port, polish etc.. I'm ordering the interceptor but i can probably trade return it if i think there's a better product for the application. So yea any gains to be made from the other Haltech products over the interceptor?

As long as it can change your FUELING and IGNITION TIMING then it'll keep your NA built running just fine. It's been a long time since I've looked into the Haltech since I have the Moristech Pro Sequential (c/o Raptor), but I do recall it had several useful features besides the above and at a glance appeared to be decent value. The next step up in the Haltech line-up is becoming more of an ECU replacement which is unnecessary when an interceptor lets you make the changes you need AND retain the oem creature comforts.

TBH, I'd steer well clear of Haltech. I had an Interceptor installed a couple years ago in my Ralliart Magna and the unit failed within 6 months, left me stranded at a shopping center and the car wouldn't start. My mate had the exact same thing happen with an Interceptor on his VP SS.

12 months on, and no probs with my Interceptor. In fact I reckon it so good I will be pulling if off the Sports when that car goes to my son and installing it in the Merc E430 I am getting...

TBH, I'd steer well clear of Haltech. I had an Interceptor installed a couple years ago in my Ralliart Magna and the unit failed within 6 months, left me stranded at a shopping center and the car wouldn't start. My mate had the exact same thing happen with an Interceptor on his VP SS.

Maybe it was just the interceptors?

With the full blown ECU - lots of mates run these, and not a single issue.

i run the miniceptor with my na and i have never had any problems.

12 months on, and no probs with my Interceptor. In fact I reckon it so good I will be pulling if off the Sports when that car goes to my son and installing it in the Merc E430 I am getting...

Big spender eh?

Just my opinion guys... Motec is a much better choice, but you obviously pay for the priviledge.

Just my opinion guys... Motec is a much better choice, but you obviously pay for the priviledge.

No it isn't. Most equally featured units are similar they just have use a different algorithm set up in some models (and haltech lamba code has meaning vs motecs assigned numbers). I heard this from dave who moved to haltech from motec about 2months before-hand.

Mines been awesome for about 2 yrs.

No it isn't. Most equally featured units are similar they just have use a different algorithm set up in some models (and haltech lamba code has meaning vs motecs assigned numbers). I heard this from dave who moved to haltech from motec about 2months before-hand.

Mines been awesome for about 2 yrs.
Sorry, I forgot having an opinion with you here is a crime. :bowrofl:

Sorry, I forgot having an opinion with you here is a crime. :bowrofl:



You should know better. :doubt:












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Sorry, I forgot having an opinion with you here is a crime. :bowrofl:


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No it isn't. Most equally featured units are similar they just have use a different algorithm set up in some models (and haltech lamba code has meaning vs motecs assigned numbers). I heard this from dave who moved to haltech from motec about 2months before-hand.

Mines been awesome for about 2 yrs.

This is where I'll disagree - Motec is still the best ECU money can buy.

This is where I'll disagree - Motec is still the best ECU money can buy.
Thank you. There is a reason the top tuners use Motec.

Nah not nitpicking against you just my opinion differs and i've had experience with the aforementioned ecu. Money is a factor.

Your choice of ECU (whether piggyback or full replcement) should be largely dictated by what your tuner is familar/good with. These days there's a wide range of products that will pretty much all do the job if fitted/tuned correctly, unless you require features that are less common - e.g low-end piggybacks won't have stuff like anti-lag, launch control etc. In the case of street-driven magnas, this generally isn't going to the case, pretty much anything decent will do.

As far as piggybacks go, my preference is the the Haltech minicepter/intercepter, as it's reasonably priced, feature-rich and well-supported in most places. If I was to ditch my SMT6, I'd go the Haltech, as it has high resolution maps (for a piggyback), supports multiple maps, has outputs to drive NOS/WI etc. And most importantly, my trusted tuner is very experienced with Haltechs.

Also IMO the Greddy Emanage Ultimate is a good product, though not well-supported in some areas. I won't comment any more products as those 2 are the ones I'm familar with, but I'm sure there are other good options around, depending on where you are. But I recomend avoiding products that aren't widely supported, incase the one tuner in your city who can tune it goes out of business etc.

I don't see the point in going to a full replacement when something like the Haltech piggyback will do everything you could want (for 99% of applications).

Big spender eh?
Nope - mates rateslol Would you believe one owner, 100,000k, Benz service history, genuine AMG 18's all for 15 grand (retail is about 22ish).

All electronic components can fail regardless of the price. Sometimes its installer error too. Heat, vibration, power surges etc. Some makers "burn-in" every unit before its sold, other just randomly check 1 in 100 coming off production line.

The Motec is a good unit with lots of features the average tuner will never use. Haltec made a good product but really if you can't tune it yourself then you have to go with what the dyno operator is comfortable with.

Remember though this is a commercial world. Some products are recommended/pushed because of big profit margins, not because they are better/easier to tune/will do an equally good job.

Its not rocket science to make an ECU to fire the ign and injectors. Much more important is how carefully the ECU/piggy back ECU has been mapped and that the dyno being used was suitable for precise mapping.

Cheers, Alan

Ill Back haltech up here.. had an interceptor in my car and never had an issue with it for over a year. My car was the first magna to ever get a interceptor as Haltech used it as the test pig. All went well and they started them for magna.. When i went NA mods we upgraded to a E6x and thats not the best unit for 6 cylinder cars. Can never getting timming to do what you need it too.:P I have now upgraded again to the E11v2.. Thats there top of the line model and i havent used car yet but supposed to be as good as it gets.:)