Heya Guys
Ok after reading through many threads here and on another magna site I've decided a lukey exhaust is a nice cheap upgrade for my TJ Magna Advance which should give me a fair boost in performance.
I have a couple of questions now which havn't really been touched on in the other threads.
The first thing is a mate can get me the lukey exhaust for around the $110 mark how advanced is the installation of this over the stock exhaust? Is it a case of unscrew one and bolt on the new one? I have absolutely no mechanical know how but I may be able to handle that.

Also something that isn't covered much is getting a tip for the lukey. Does anyone have any pics of a bare lukey? also is there any set agreement on what is the best tip to put on a lukey for maximum performance while keeping it as quiet as possible?

I don't want it ricey so I'm figuring either a 2.5" or 3.0" round tip would do the job but then I've read rumours of rolled tips creating extra noise etc.

If anyone has any pictures of the lukey exhaust installed that would be greatly appreciated as well.

This post is a bit of a jumble but I'm hoping to get a few of these concerns and questions worked out soonish before I place the order.

thanks in advance

Ok i will answer what i can from my exhaust - ony changed the rear muffler:

It is a cut and weld job unfortunately - no bolt off bolt on - so you will have to get it done unless u are a wizz with a welder.

I have a 2.5" rolled chrome tip - doesnt create any extra noice IMHO and it isn't even that loud - it is great - but you can hear it while booting around 3-5K mark!!! It sounds a bit hollow after 5K but a set of extractors should fix that!!

But it depends on what you think looks nice.

Manual

Hi Manual
Thanks very much for your reply. Damn thats bad news about installation I don't know if many places install an exhaust for you if you don't purchase it off them and its not easy finding places here who seem to stock the lukey.
Ok your tip sounds similar to what I am looking at are they just a generic thing or is there brands of tips to look out for. You wouldn't possibly have a piccy of it would you?

http://www.rpi.net.au/~jimmy82/magnapage/images/fullpics/mybigfattip.jpg

http://www.rpi.net.au/~jimmy82/magnapage/images/fullpics/magnarear.jpg

That's the tip I have...I used to have a pic of the bare lukey but not anymore...possibly on lukey's site there will be one.

And as far as I've heard on these, the tips don't make a huge difference to the sound produced..[/i]

Thanks for the pics Killbilly, I'm having a bit of trouble finding a genuine Lukey site with pics or even assembly information. Could you confirm that you had to get this welded on? Also if you don't mind me asking what area of sydney are you located as now I have to find a place that will either supply and fit a lukey + tip or just fit one if I can supply it.

Killbilly, what did you do to your rear bumper there to accomodate that exhaust.... did you take it to a panel beaters or someone like that to modify it, if so, what exactly did they do and how much did it cost?

I want to get a decent exhaust on mine, but the only real thing holding me back is that I don't want it sticking down any lower than it already is, meaning some modification to the bumper would be necessary.

Ok guys got a very quick question. Just had a chat with a guy at an exhaust place and he's told me about another model lukey in this case its a AL4-5597 apparently this is a bolt on version. Does anyone have any idea if this is the same exhaust as the lr2779 just with a bolt on attachment? I just don't want to end up with a lower performing/noisier exhaust.
thanks

Ok guys got a very quick question. Just had a chat with a guy at an exhaust place and he's told me about another model lukey in this case its a AL4-5597 apparently this is a bolt on version. Does anyone have any idea if this is the same exhaust as the lr2779 just with a bolt on attachment? I just don't want to end up with a lower performing/noisier exhaust.
thanks

Not sure, but i know a welded muffler is better.. it will certainly deter those who would like to unbolt it and attach it to their car..

Hmm thats a good point you bring up there Bain
I did a quick bit of research and it looks as though it is definately just like a lr2779 with the extra bolt on bits my quote atm stands at around $170 for lr2779 with no tip or $270 for the 5597 with tip included. I'm also thinking a bonus of going the bolt on job is I can keep the stock exhaust in perfect condition incase I need it for some reason in the future.

No mods to the rear bumper as I have a TR and it has the cut out already.

The place I got mine from is Windsor Exhaust Centre on windsor st Richmond, near the RAAF base if you know the area...if not I can direct you to them if you want to venture out here.

They charged me 490 for a 2.5" mandrel bent cat back exhaust with the lukey and the chrome tip installed.

I'm sure it was a weld on job, but I got a new exhaust at the same time...I'll have to check under my car to see for sure..but I'm 99% sure it was welded on.

thanks Killbilly
Ok forgot to ask in my last post but if this other exhaust is indeed a bolt on job how advanced do I need to be able to fit it. Like I'm a complete nuffy when it comes to cars but my dad and the guy across the road would probably have a better idea with a spanner :) So yeah basically would you guys be confident in fitting your exhausts if they are a bolt on job?
thanks again

Hmm thats a good point you bring up there Bain
I did a quick bit of research and it looks as though it is definately just like a lr2779 with the extra bolt on bits my quote atm stands at around $170 for lr2779 with no tip or $270 for the 5597 with tip included. I'm also thinking a bonus of going the bolt on job is I can keep the stock exhaust in perfect condition incase I need it for some reason in the future.

You might want to check your zorst mate.. Im pretty sure the standard magna zorst is welded.. So theyll need to cut the old one off to put the new bolt on.. on.

Not to sure how the bolt on works in terms of flow of zorst fumes.. I cant imagine it would be any better than a proper welded version due to it might have leaks and such (causing incorrect zorst flow, swirling action type thing)..

Hey slayer when i had my muffler changed i told him i wanted to keep the original one - he had no issues with that cos he was just gonna throw it out anyways - but my old man had said - if ur zorst is too loud they will book you and you will wnt a replacement - but the muffler change isnt that loud!! no where near a dual 3" zorst off an old V8 - so u will have nothing to worry about!!

I had my zorst done for 179 - just the muffler change and chrome tip - fitted in about 2 hours!!

Manual

Heya again guys
Ok I ended up getting my exhaust fitted a couple of days ago. I went with the Lukey AL4-5597 (bolt on version of the 2779) fitted with a 3inch round tip. The sad part of this story is I can't feel a difference. Sure it looks sweet and sounds gutsy (I actually wish it was silent) But I havn't noticed the 14kw+ everyone raves about it feels the same or ALMOST WORSE. This is probably my imagination playing tricks with me but its got me quite concerned. I can't imagine there would be a problem with installation as it looked so simple (took the guy 15mins max)
Where should I be looking for gains? Basically if I stand on the accelerator it doesn't seem to of improved much and taking off from the lights seems the same if not worse. Around the 110-120 mark seemed to be alright but it always has.
I'm considering getting it dynoed to check if everything is alright i.e see if I have any kw gain over a stock magna (didn't get it dynoed before exhaust)

Also one other thing of concern as I was driving around looking for a park spot with my window down I heard a squeak coming from my right hand side. It almost sounds as if a break is rubbing or a shock is squeaking. I'm no mechanic but it didn't sound normal and I do suspect I've heard it once before. Any ideas on this one?

thanks again for your time

[quote:3430c7cfd9]see if I have any kw gain over a stock magna (didn't get it dynoed before exhaust) [/quote:3430c7cfd9]

im surprised that you didnt 'feel' any gains, but getting it dyno'd might not be your best option as you didnt have a 'real' start point to compare it against. what i mean by start point is what YOUR car was actually proforming before and after. just because Mitsubishi can quote a figure, it doesnt nessarly mean you can quote that same figure :S sorry buddy. if anything, i doubt its gotten worse.. or has it? :? :?:

Yeah I know it won't be the most accurate testing around. I was actually basing the idea on the gold booya magna as I saw the performance gain it got from a simple exhaust update (in a thread somewhere) Yeah I'd be pretty shocked as well if there was a drop maybe its in my head because the car is sounding louder under acceleration. I really don't have a clue when it comes to exhausts but when installed the guy basically unbolted the stock exhaust bolted the lukey on then the bit that freaked me was him cutting about 3 inches off the back pipe of the lukey then welded on the 3inch chrome tip. Now I gather he had to cut it off so I wouldn't have a huge overhanging tip but would this of affected it at all or is the power gain from the bigger area before the back pipe (haha love those technical terms)

Maybe it wasnt installed correctly?

I dont know..

Why did you go the bolt on version? Were you thinking you might change back?

Gave it a bit more of a throw around last night and I think I may of felt a difference around the 3000rpm mark it seemed to pull pretty hard once again I can't really compare this to the stock one as I didn't do any scientific testing before I got this one fitted.

Yeah there was the possibility I'd change back. I really don't like noisy cars and if this was driving me insane I'd switch back to the stock exhaust. As it turns out the noise is bareable although deffinately noisier but the performance gain I was expecting wasn't there. I guess I'd pretty much hyped myself up thinking I'd suddenly be driving a sports car but in reality I felt as much gain when I switch to bp ultimate :) I'm gonna keep driving it and see if I notice anything more unfortunately I didn't own the car for long or drive it real hard before I changed the exhaust so it's hard to work out an accurate way of testing.

We really need someone to dyno before and after... grr..

Oh well... Maybe one day if I ever change the muffler =/

well i could do that, i was thinkin about going in the next few weeks to change my muff, mines a bit fishy atm (bad joke)

but ill ask around

Give the new muffler some time to run in... don't just go pushing RPM when it's newly installed... You should feel a difference after maybe another 100kms or so :D

CHEERS

RPW checked the bolt-on for me before shipping to the states. At that time said lukey was using a different muffler for the bolt-on kit. Also make me wonder as you said they had to cut/shorten the muffler's pipe to install the tip. Mine came with only 2" inch welding stub on each end of the muffler. I'm thinking you got a lukey but not the LR2779. Did you see if the muffler was a straight thru (should be able to look in the end and see daylight)?

Thanks for your replies ok D-D the exhaust that was installed was the lukey al4-5597 from everyone I spoke to they generally agreed it was a 2779 with a bolt on component. I really am at the mercy of them though as my car knowledge is very limited (previously not interested at all) and I'm trying to learn quickly.

Hey guys,
New to the forum but I thought that I would just let you know that I put the Lukey on mine last night and it seems to have a bit more top end. They are a bit of a pain to put in though because you have to unbolt the flange that goes over the lower control arms to pull out the muffler and pipe so that you can cut the inlet pipe of and weld it on to the new one. You also have to weld on hangers for the mounts also. I thought that I would give it a go because I runa workshop and I get these sort of things pretty cheap. It is a little bit louder but no too bad I don't think I will have to take it for a long drive to see if it drones at highway speed though. P.S. if there is anyone in Brissy that would like a hand putting one of these in let me know it only takes about an hour.

Cheers
Paul

How much is a dyno test?
Im in Brisbane ... any cheap places to do it?
Also I have seen dynos that work with the wheels off... Surley that is not the best way of testing... I would think one that actually get the car to run on rollers would have to be the best?
Any comments?
If it is not to expensive Id test my car before and after muffler.
Haydn

I've got a lr2779 and I can honestly say there is NO drone.

Bit of an update
I've got very used to the noise of the exhaust now and I'd even go as far as saying I like it. Most of the time I can't even hear it now so I don't know if it's got quieter over time or I've just adjusted. It still smells like new burning paint after I've driven it so still not fully worn in. The car really seems to go beyond 3500rpm now which may be aided by the exhaust. I'm happier with it now than I was a couple of weeks ago but I'd still really like to dyno my car and see if I've lost anything down low (I know it's really doubtful but would like to check anyway)

Off topic I'm going to chuck in a K&N Panel filter today using the stock magna air induction setup. I'm definately not expecting to feel anything but for some strange reason I feel compelled to do it :)

That's what I've done in my TR, it wasnt a huge difference but a little bit better on the intitial throttle response.

well that was dissapointing yesterday :( Drove around to a few auto stores and they all looked at me funny when I mentioned the panel filter. I had to quote them a model number i.e 33-2151 before they could even look it up. None of them had it in stock and there quoted prices varied from $100-$300 which is a bit crazy. Any Sydney based magna owners know a place that would stock these K&N panel filters for a decent price?

While I was at it yesterday I also rang a wreckers that I figured would have some clear door repeaters off either a nimbus or lancer to replace the orange magna ones. Once again I got the "are you on drugs" reply

haha funny that - you always get the are you on drugs treatment when you ask for anything non stock for a magna :)

Anyone who treats you like shit, you either have a go at or dont go there again.

It's not their job to express their opinions on the matter, it's their job to get you the part you want.

I hate how people act like that, makes me want to reach thru the phone and rip their eyes out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:

I got my panel filter from Auto One and it was about 130 I think or less..cant remember. Anyway, it wasnt a bad price, the recharge kit was 29.95 I just cleaned mine 2 days ago..makes a big difference when you've done 30,000kms and you forgot to clean it :lol:

oops! :oops:

haha you got that right everything for commodores and falcons nothing for the good old magna. Just did another round of ringing pretty much the same deal except fairfield autoone the guy I spoke to was very helpful but still nothing in stock and no firm price. Killbilly which autoone did you get your filter fromand was it a order in job I might give them a buzz.

Just went to the local Midas Dealer. They had just received the new Lukey catalogue. The LR2779 and the AL4-5597 are exactly the same except as Slayer said earlier the AL4 version has the bolt on bits. We put the car up on the hoist and there is an attachment flange about a foot or so behind the muffler. I got quoted $295 fitted for the AL4 version incl a cheap tip. The problem is the tip i want is an extra $100.

I am waiting on a price from a friend who works at Tenneco (who own Lukey) to see what i can get the whole lot for. Then being a bolt on version i may be able to do the rest myself.

Auto One in Windsor..they had it in stock. Sometimes they might have to order it in..depends on stock on hand at the time.

this is teh LR2779 off of my TH - simple 2.5" zorst chrome tip!!

Manual

And here's mine :D

with regards to the K&N panel filter... why not get it online from autospeed?

$117 i think ... shipping for me (to sydney) is $7

$124 sounds pretty good ;)

Yippee just found out i can get a AL4-5597 for $115 plus a tip. Hold me back........................................

What is so good about Lukey mufflers?
Shurely there are better mufflers out there with better flow and tips.
I was just wondering thats all.
I bought a chrome muffler with 2.5" inlet and 4.5" tip ... I just have to wait until it gets registered to put it on...
Haydn

OMG TroyH that's a great price definnately grab one for that. On another note my panel filter arrived today from autospeed. I quickly whacked it in and initial impressions are good it definately feels smoother going up through the revs almost like going from unleaded to bp ultimate kind of feel in my mind it was worth the money :)

Tbutcher it's pretty much the fact that the lukeys were designed with the magna in mind and as a result should give nice performance boosts while maintaining a nice exhaust note at certain rpm's. I love the sound of my lukey now where originally I thought it was to loud. They are definately a quite exhaust from the outside my mate across the road with a different exhaust is definately louder.

I got a price for a 5" Round K&N today it was $116.50 RU-2800 .... is that a good price?
I dont know what the oval ones cost that you guys get....
Also the guy at the Autobarn Beenleigh rang up a company called "Rocket" on 02 88251900 (just looked them up in the white pages - Rocket Industries
40 Huntingwood Drv Huntingwood 2148) ( just type in their name in Netscape and got this http://www.RocketIndustries.com.au/ ) dont know if anyone can buy from them .. but this is were Autobarn gets them... Maybe if you bought a few thed sell to you...
If a few people got together and order the panel or pod fileters together you all might get a good price.
Haydn