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lenda
02-03-2009, 06:27 PM
hey guys,

this is my idea, i was wondering if you could give me hints on parts, and what you think on the idea?

so what i was thinking of doing was useing the exsisting sub box and sub, putting it in the left corner of the boot, making up a panel running the same angle as the sub box, all the way to the tyre arch, and screw the amp on to it. then creating a fake enclosure on each of the side walls, making it look flush and standard, so the boot is slightly small width wise. cut two holes each side and put some down lights in, and hook them up to the existing boot light, so that they activate when open. once all in place cover it all up with some sought of vynil, leather or suede. for the floor base in the boot i was thinking of cutting a hole in the floor and putting some clear plastic or something over the spare mag in the boot, so i can show it of and retrim the boot floor as well. as the boot floor doesnt go down smooth as it is with the mag in there it will need to be re made, any tipsor hints with this as well?

thanks mike

Mr_Roberto
02-03-2009, 06:39 PM
so you want the sub to sit on one side and the amp on the other? sitting behind the rear seat?
then make up panels on either side of the boot to make it look flat?

maybe take alook at my install, that is similar to what you wanna do
just picture what you want where you want it tho

as for material, dont really need much when making a boot install, mainly just need some MDF and screws
i would be happy to lend a hand if need be mike ;)

lenda
02-03-2009, 06:43 PM
oh thanks mate.

what i was thinking was to turn the sub round so it faced out, move it over to the left, then make up a panel to follow the subs enslosure to the tyre well, so the amp can be bolted onto that. then from the rear lights to the tyre well will put a fake wall in there and bolt on the two down lights into that. i hope that makes more sense. whats the best materials to work with used for backing?

edit: i know what i want, it looks good in my head lol

Mr_Roberto
02-03-2009, 06:52 PM
right i get what your saying, you want a wall pretty much from on side of the boot to the other hiding the sub box
then panels attached to that wall to make the boot square like
as said seems similar to mine sorta
wouldn't be too hard to do

lenda
02-03-2009, 07:00 PM
yeh kinda, but instead of the two subs have the one sub and the amp then on the sidewalls where your amps are, put some down lights. then on the floor have it so i can see my sexy mags :)

Mr_Roberto
02-03-2009, 07:06 PM
and what are the lights ment to shine on?
you want them pointing down towards the floor or the side?
might as well use neons or something :P
so you want some perspex so everyone can see the inside of your stockie?

if it was me, i would flush mount the sub and amp, but also put some lights behind the amp
and if you want people to see the inside of your stockie then put some lights in the tyre well or under the false floor
made make a mitsubishi logo with lights behind that?
or get it engraved into the perspex?
hey im givimg myself some ideas lol

Harty
02-03-2009, 07:14 PM
Use something like 12mm mdf for side walls then get some automotive style carpet to make it look stock.

Use cardboard to make a template before cutting the mdf though.

Out of interest... Are you still planning on painting your sexy wheels? Or have I missed something completely?

lenda
02-03-2009, 07:15 PM
my spare is one of my 18 inch chromies, i got 5 of them :) hence why i want lights to shine on them. im no good with electrics, so if anyone could help with that, that would be great. tob you did yours, what would be some good starting materials, i wanna try a few ideas, cut it all up and put it in there and see what it looks like ;)


Use something like 12mm mdf for side walls then get some automotive style carpet to make it look stock.

Use cardboard to make a template before cutting the mdf though.

Out of interest... Are you still planning on painting your sexy wheels? Or have I missed something completely?


not sure ay, i can either get them professionally polished, which should remove scratches or most of them, or i can spray them, so i have put that on hold until i decide. any opinoins are welcome.

Harty
02-03-2009, 07:20 PM
I'm happy to give you a hand with the electronics side of it mate.

I vote polish the rims... I like chrome :P

Depends if you're planning on changing ya grill any time soon...

lenda
02-03-2009, 07:23 PM
I'm happy to give you a hand with the electronics side of it mate.

I vote polish the rims... I like chrome :P

Depends if you're planning on changing ya grill any time soon...

ahhhh nope :)

ah thanks ben, i will be in contact i think, the electrics i will need help with is to hook up the lights so they open when the boot does, and probably some neons around the amp.

Mr_Roberto
02-03-2009, 07:27 PM
yeah but the rim faces face down doesnt it?
i know the stereo side of electrics and thats about it, sorta know alittle about other type of electrics
you wouldnt need much to get you started
16mm MDF, screws, PVA, jigsaw, pencil, tape measure, paper, lots of cardboard for templates, siccors, drill and drill bits, spray on glue, whatever material your gonna use, circular saw, belt sander im sure theres acouple of other things you'll need but yeah it'll get you started

i would grab some paper and draw up how you want the boot to look
then pull out your boot floor carpet and mark it on some 3mm MDF, this help help when planning out your boot aswell as getting measure ments
make sure you get the sub box in the right spot (find out where it'll sit when pushed back against the seat) always you'll be doing all the hard work for nothing
then just run around with your tape measuring the height of everything
make sure everything is right before wacking it in there or before you cut it out, dont wanna finish it all only to find out it doesnt fit in your boot, been there done that :doubt:

oh yeah and whos tob?? :P

lenda
02-03-2009, 07:32 PM
yeah but the rim faces face down doesnt it?
i know the stereo side of electrics and thats about it, sorta know alittle about other type of electrics
you wouldnt need much to get you started
16mm MDF, screws, PVA, jigsaw, pencil, tape measure, paper, lots of cardboard for templates, siccors, drill and drill bits, spray on glue, whatever material your gonna use, circular saw, belt sander im sure theres acouple of other things you'll need but yeah it'll get you started

i would grab some paper and draw up how you want the boot to look
then pull out your boot floor carpet and mark it on some 3mm MDF, this help help when planning out your boot aswell as getting measure ments
make sure you get the sub box in the right spot (find out where it'll sit when pushed back against the seat) always you'll be doing all the hard work for nothing
then just run around with your tape measuring the height of everything
make sure everything is right before wacking it in there or before you cut it out, dont wanna finish it all only to find out it doesnt fit in your boot, been there done that :doubt:

oh yeah and whos tob?? :P

oh awsome, when i get paid, im going shopping :)

yeh the floor doesnt sit flush with it upside down anyways, so when i turn it the right way its the same thing, hence the custom floor and the coool screen so everyone can see it when i open the boot and i can still use my boot as normal.

Harty
02-03-2009, 07:43 PM
ahhhh nope :)

ah thanks ben, i will be in contact i think, the electrics i will need help with is to hook up the lights so they open when the boot does, and probably some neons around the amp.

No worries mikeh!
Sounds simple enough, might motivate me to finally do my boot install too hehe
I've been thinking about it for a yonk or two!

lenda
03-03-2009, 09:49 PM
here is what i kinda want it to look like. hopefully the link works :)
im a bad drawer and the scanner didnt get all the writing but you get the idea. its not really complicated, but i think it will be effective. what do you think?

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/AMC-lenda/untitled.jpg

Mr_Roberto
04-03-2009, 05:14 PM
yeah that looks ok but,
it shows you want a round bit of perspex for the wheel?
i can see why you want it but it'll cost abit
as for the down lights, dont think you can use normal house ones as they get very hot let alone the wiring side of things, should be able to get low voltage/wattage ones
looking at that floor design, it'll be a pain in the **** to do

lenda
04-03-2009, 06:07 PM
yeah that looks ok but,
it shows you want a round bit of perspex for the wheel?
i can see why you want it but it'll cost abit
as for the down lights, dont think you can use normal house ones as they get very hot let alone the wiring side of things, should be able to get low voltage/wattage ones
looking at that floor design, it'll be a pain in the **** to do

got any advice to show of the rim then?

Mr_Roberto
04-03-2009, 06:17 PM
i was thinking leaving it square but thinking round would look better but then getting the tyre out would be a pain
might have to make a hidden patch that can be removed so the tyre will come out much easier
the floor bit can be done no worries, well for me that is cause i'll just chuck it on the router at work ;)

lenda
04-03-2009, 06:19 PM
i was thinking of lifting the false floor up so it sits flush, with a few blocks and putting hinges on it so the whole floor can lift up. iv been looking at my boot this afternoon, shouldnt be to hard. worst [art is i cant find no bloody cardboard hahaha.

for the lights i was thinking 12v same as the battery

lenda
04-03-2009, 06:27 PM
im thinking of useing black suede on the cnetre and the side walls, what do you think? what material and colour should i use for the floor?

Rory_newton
04-03-2009, 06:30 PM
im thinking of useing black suede on the cnetre and the side walls, what do you think? what material and colour should i use for the floor?

Where would you buy black suede though? I went into Spotlight and Textile traders the other day loooking for some, and they both didnt stock it! :rant:

Mr_Roberto
04-03-2009, 06:36 PM
if you've seen my install i've got black suede on the panels and box but left the floor carpet as the normal floor carpet
its up to you what you do it int, you would need around 3 meters or so of the suede to do the whole boot (panels and floor)
it does make it look alittle cheap, maybe see if you can get some black leather or something
or hit spotlight or motortrimmer and see what they have

oh and rory, mate i got mine from spotlight in cannington
every store should have it but the colours will very, you'll find them on the racks (has about 6 rolls or so) think its about 15 bucks a meter

Rory_newton
04-03-2009, 06:43 PM
if you've seen my install i've got black suede on the panels and box but left the floor carpet as the normal floor carpet
its up to you what you do it int, you would need around 3 meters or so of the suede to do the whole boot (panels and floor)
it does make it look alittle cheap, maybe see if you can get some black leather or something
or hit spotlight or motortrimmer and see what they have

oh and rory, mate i got mine from spotlight in cannington
every store should have it but the colours will very, you'll find them on the racks (has about 6 rolls or so) think its about 15 bucks a meter

Hmmm Ok, I will check it out again maybe next week. Maybe the ladies that work there just dont know what their talking about. So I will search for myself next time instead of asking! Cheers for the info
I might even have to check out the cannington store....

Mr_Roberto
04-03-2009, 07:08 PM
Hmmm Ok, I will check it out again maybe next week. Maybe the ladies that work there just dont know what their talking about. So I will search for myself next time instead of asking! Cheers for the info
I might even have to check out the cannington store....

haha i didnt bother asking them, i knew what i wanted and just set out to look for it
if you go to the cannington store its right in the corner
so as you come in you walk straight until the end the left until the end and you should walk straight into the stuff
well unless they've changed the place lol

Harty
04-03-2009, 07:12 PM
Just a thought for the round perspex problem... what if you used a square cut bit of perspex then laid a thin piece of mdf with a circular cut out over the top of it?

Only problem being the recessed look + the material covering it may make a lump on the edge of the circle due to folding over.

Thoughts?

Mr_Roberto
04-03-2009, 07:20 PM
Just a thought for the round perspex problem... what if you used a square cut bit of perspex then laid a thin piece of mdf with a circular cut out over the top of it?

Only problem being the recessed look + the material covering it may make a lump on the edge of the circle due to folding over.

Thoughts?

you'll have to recess it into the floor anyways so it has some thing to sit on but also to make it sit flush with the floor
i see what your saying but perspex isnt the best thing to work with
but you could make it work, lay abit of 3mm MDF over the top of it to create the ring
the other problem is using the right glue to glue the wood down

to me if you were to buy the round perspex and rebated it into the floor it'll look neater but then you see the wood, just paint it black and it wont stand out as much

lenda
04-03-2009, 07:24 PM
is there anything else we could use instead of perspex? or is that the best stuff to use, just a pain to work with? wheres the best place to buy al these parts, good old bunnings?

Mr_Roberto
04-03-2009, 07:33 PM
is there anything else we could use instead of perspex? or is that the best stuff to use, just a pain to work with? wheres the best place to buy al these parts, good old bunnings?

perspex is probuley the only stuff you could use,
if you get it at the size you want then you can work around it, its the cutting part thats the pain unless you have the right tools
dunno if bunnings sell it or not, if you work out the size you want i'll see how much i can get it from work (it'll be alot cheaper then you can get it for ;)), just gotta find out if we can get it or not but we should be able to get it no worries

Ers
04-03-2009, 08:30 PM
Find yourself a perspex place.

They can cut things to size, and shape.

For a round piece, recessed, I'de say you're looking at $150

lenda
04-03-2009, 08:37 PM
i was hoping to do this for around 200 to 250 hmmm, when i get a day of its a trip to bunning to see what i can find.

Ers
04-03-2009, 08:46 PM
Dont cut perspex yourself.

Its not only hard, it turns out crap. Been there, done that.

Sometimes, you just have to pay the pro's if you want good results.

It would be cheaper to get 3 small diamond shaped pieces of perspex, and do a mitsi logo over the spare wheel.

That should be around $60-90 depending on thickness of the perspex.

Or you can just buy a sheet for $30, cut it yourself, and dont let the cut marks be on show, hide them under the MDF.

lenda
04-03-2009, 09:01 PM
rob in the pic i found of your boot it looks like leather you have. not suede.

and another thing, do the panels go right to the top, or do they stop just short?

Mr_Roberto
05-03-2009, 03:29 PM
rob in the pic i found of your boot it looks like leather you have. not suede.

and another thing, do the panels go right to the top, or do they stop just short?

trust me mike its not leather, might actually be vinyl but i thinks its suede
the panels dont go right up to the top they stop until they fit snuggly into the side of the boot
next time im down on a thursday night i'll show you if you want? just need to remind me lol


Find yourself a perspex place.

They can cut things to size, and shape.

For a round piece, recessed, I'de say you're looking at $150

i wouldnt say that much, plus the perspex wouldnt be recessed that'll cost too much
all you need is a round bit or say 9mm perspex then recess the flooring to make it fit
its the same thing but will be much cheaper ;)

lenda
10-03-2009, 08:30 PM
im gonna see if i can do all the cardboard work tomorrow, if i have time i might even start cutting up some mdf but i gotta go buy it first lol. where is the cheapest and best place to buy it from?

J-Flo
10-03-2009, 08:36 PM
im gonna see if i can do all the cardboard work tomorrow, if i have time i might even start cutting up some mdf but i gotta go buy it first lol. where is the cheapest and best place to buy it from?

I'd say bunnings would be the best place to go, if you have the measurements they MIGHT even cut it for you for free if you ask nicely, and don't have complex shapes, saves a LOT of your own time and effort.

lenda
11-03-2009, 07:54 PM
hey guys,

here is a rough layout. where i put the amp, i have decided im going to make it one piece, in cororperating the sub as well so it looks cleaner, so its not two seperate bits, and i can bolt it to the existing sub. for the floor, i have marked out the sub well, but im thinking i will change it to just the rim cutout, which will sit slightly to the left hence a smaller piece of perspex as well. what type of lights should i install... eg: what voltage etc... i want somehting black with a chrome lip :) what do you guys rekon?

http://img3.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=photo095.jpg

Mr_Roberto
11-03-2009, 08:06 PM
lol at all the cardboard
as you've said its better to make the rear bit all in one, as it'll look alot neater and look "built in"
as for the tyre well, read about what i said before about it
you can do the round cutout to show it off, but you'll need abit more space (towards the rear of the car) when it comes to pulling the tyre out
pretty sure the tyre sits sorta centre of the boot so hopefully it doesnt end up sitting under the sub box, you can still make it work but leave a flat end where it meets the sub box (the perspex i'm talking about)
as for the lights, something low voltage would be better as you dont want the lights to heat up heaps and cause your boot to catch on fire lol

lenda
11-03-2009, 08:09 PM
lol at all the cardboard
as you've said its better to make the rear bit all in one, as it'll look alot neater and look "built in"
as for the tyre well, read about what i said before about it
you can do the round cutout to show it off, but you'll need abit more space (towards the rear of the car) when it comes to pulling the tyre out
pretty sure the tyre sits sorta centre of the boot so hopefully it doesnt end up sitting under the sub box, you can still make it work but leave a flat end where it meets the sub box (the perspex i'm talking about)
as for the lights, something low voltage would be better as you dont want the lights to heat up heaps and cause your boot to catch on fire lol

12v to much?

Mr_Roberto
11-03-2009, 08:11 PM
12v to much?

im not to sure when it comes to lights
i know down lights tend to draw alot of heat
you'll want to low wattage one most likely

lenda
11-03-2009, 08:21 PM
anyone who is electrically minded able to help me? im thinking i might just hook it in to my down light already in the boot, might have to get the lowest powered lights at bunnings and see how i go. electrical people help me?

and thanks rob for noticing my cardboard, lol i thught it was better to use that instead of cutting mdf and changing my mind with that.

Ers
12-03-2009, 06:07 AM
What type of lighting do you want?

I wouldnt use downlights personally (though there are special one's that show cars use....expensive though).

LED lights are your best bet. If you're using a lot of lighting, read up on relay's www.bcae1.com

Woob
12-03-2009, 12:21 PM
led downlights ftw. we use 12v tri-led downlights in kitchen overheads. theyre only 12mm thick too. epically bright, draw no current, and look awesome.

only downside is they are $75 each. you can but these yourself if you want to, go to Hafele in malaga, look through their product catalogue and find something you like. theyve got about a 1000 page book to look through so youll find something.

only thing im not sure of is if you can run them straight from the car or if you will need a 12-12v ballast.

lenda
13-03-2009, 08:32 PM
started to do the boot today. still gotta cut the whole in the floor for the rim, buy and insert another light, buy and insert the perspex, bolt the amp on, then buy and trim the boot.

http://img26.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=photo102.jpg

Mr_Roberto
13-03-2009, 09:07 PM
i hope your gonna use MDF and not chipboard :pray:

lenda
13-03-2009, 09:23 PM
it is mdf... whats the difference?

its stuff i got found in the garage which had mdf written on it lol

Mr_Roberto
13-03-2009, 09:34 PM
mate if thats MDF in those pics then i'll punch myself in the balls
i work with wood day in day out and i can tell you right now thats not MDF, it's chipboard
you'll know MDF when you see it, its like a dark browny colour
MDF would be better cause its more "sterdy" then chipboard

lenda
13-03-2009, 09:37 PM
lol can you punch yourself anyways hehehe. look the stuff seems pritty good mate, its only holding a poor little light and my amp, nothing nuts, and the floor is like 16mm thick by memory. im even gonna put padding on the floor make it nice and soft :). and its not chip board either, i know that much.

by the way you didnt warn me how dirty my car would get when doing all the cutting. :rant:

Mr_Roberto
13-03-2009, 09:44 PM
haha ok then its not chipboard its particalboard, same thing really
except ones white :P
i prefer to do installs with MDF, just easier to work with
but you should be right with your "MDF" *cough*chipboard*cough* :P
i'll be popping down next thursday night if you wanna look at my install and get some ideas, just gotta remind me

oh yeah and your car will get dirty, but your not ment to use the car as a work bench

lenda
13-03-2009, 09:50 PM
lol i didnt... my work bench is like a metre away lol

hopefully tomorrow i can bolt that panel up next to the sub, bolt on the amp, bolt all the hinges on, and cut the whole for the rim. then during the week start putting the suede on it :)

edit: oh and put the other light in

i need someone to come do the wiring for me, its probably a real easy job, but me and electrics get along like water and electrics :)

Mr_Roberto
14-03-2009, 04:06 PM
lol a meter isnt that far, should of been like 5 meters
what type of lights did you end up getting?
you might be able to tap into the boot light for power or you'll have to run another power wire with a relay

lenda
14-03-2009, 05:55 PM
well iv changed my plan again this afternoon, so tomorrow when i get home from work tomorrow im gonna do some more cutting. reason for idea change, when i took the floor out the enclosures were sitting over the rim. so by tomorrow night everything should be in place bah the floor.

Woob
15-03-2009, 03:23 PM
eww brown mdf. someones buying from china!

quality mdf is like the same colour as chipboard

lenda
17-03-2009, 10:02 PM
hey guys,

here are some progress pics... the final pics will be in my memebers machine when its finished...there are two plugs coming out the rear of the boot light, you can see them hanging down in some of the pics, do you think i could hook my lights up to them?

http://img25.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=photo113pcb.jpg

im yet to do the floor, as i havent decided what i want yet. oh and benny (Harty) i will be in contact with you to do my electrics.

Harty
18-03-2009, 03:26 PM
wow, this has come quite a long way in a short amount of time!

I might have to borrow your cardboard templates if you still have em. I'm lazy lol

Happy to help you out - during the week is probably best.
I have to find some time to respray my front bar (and boot) which is looking like a weekend job while the weather is still good.

Mr_Roberto
18-03-2009, 08:08 PM
i hope your gonna tidy up that wiring? looks shocking
for the lights depending on wattage and volts it may be ok to tap into the boot light for power, but may be better to run another seperate relay for them then tap into the boot light so the lights turn on with the boot lids opencan i

have a look see tomorrow night? i'll show you mine :)

lenda
18-03-2009, 08:28 PM
well ahh rob, i thought u would of realised this, but once the floor is in, you wont see the wiring lol i havent done the floor yet hahaha and yes i SUPPOSE you can have a look lol