Now i've seen some cars having those blue bright lights.
Im sure i had it in my old car, i asked for them when i got my magna serviced (and paid for them) but they seem very dull and a yellow colour (seems i didn't get what i paid for)

Does anyone know what they are called? Zenon or something yeah?
I like lighting up the road so i can see whats where at night, if i had fogs i guess i wouldn't worry as much idk. but yeah :)

They are called HID lights, I have them.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8363/img8115.jpg

Keep note, they are illegal for road-use on non-factory fitted cars, this is due to a messed up reflector pattern, you can transplant the gear from a BMW or something, but it is a very time consuming process and requires an engineers cert to become legal.

They will also put out LESS light then standard hallogens (unless gear is transplanted properly instead of using a kit), if you want more light get 90/100w globes (However these are not good for 1p paras, they will stain the plastic).

They also have a tendency to blind anybody in front of you.

They are HIDS's or as I call them AID's. As life has put it, They are more then likely terrible chinese quality and you would consider yourself lucky if both worked for more then 6 months. They piss everyone else on the road off and are illegal.
Stay away from them.
If you want white bulbs, Philips crystal vision is where it's at (Check Lugo's thread) Expensive, still illegal but they don't blind oncoming motorists
100/90's require upgraded wiring via relays and a glass headlight lens.

']They are HIDS's or as I call them AID's. As life has put it, They are more then likely terrible chinese quality and you would consider yourself lucky if both worked for more then 6 months. They piss everyone else on the road off and are illegal.
Stay away from them.
If you want white bulbs, Philips crystal vision is where it's at (Check Lugo's thread) Expensive, still illegal but they don't blind oncoming motorists
100/90's require upgraded wiring via relays and a glass headlight lens.
Actually, Crystalvisions are legal (4300k), DiamondVisions (5000k) however are not. I was lucky with my HID's, they are german made :)

i'm waiting for my cheap $13 + $50 shipping ones from hong kong to stuff up so i can put my Phillips ones in!! now more than 18mts later still no fault yet lol.. and i use them heaps as i leave when it's dawn, and get home at dusk, and do a fair bit of night driving..

i'm waiting for my cheap $13 + $50 shipping ones from hong kong to stuff up so i can put my Phillips ones in!! now more than 18mts later still no fault yet lol.. and i use them heaps as i leave when it's dawn, and get home at dusk, and do a fair bit of night driving..

It's most likely your "$13" ones aren't actually HID's, HID's require an external ballast to run, they usually cost $80+, cheapest I've seen is $75.

Do you have these attached: ?

http://www.eatools.com/%7Eluke/gpthunderhid-new/gpthunder-hid-ballast.jpg

If not, its most likely you just have white bulbs, which usually arent UV protected and will cause your headlights to heat up to the point where they stain, become cloudy, or in case of glass lenses - burn or crack.

I would recommend not waiting...

Pretty sure the OP is talking about Xenon bulbs, not HID there is a difference, xenon use a gas to give the white or blue colour, they are a bulb only, HID are different and are almost always illegal in a magna, Xenon usually are not.

Pretty sure the OP is talking about Xenon bulbs, not HID there is a difference, xenon use a gas to give the white or blue colour, they are a bulb only, HID are different and are almost always illegal in a magna, Xenon usually are not.
HID's are Xenon's dude - Check it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#HID_.28xenon.29_light_sources

What you are thinking of is the blue bulbs, they are just hallogens with a blue coating to make them appear blue or white.

HID's are Xenon's dude - Check it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#HID_.28xenon.29_light_sources

What you are thinking of is the blue bulbs, they are just hallogens with a blue coating to make them appear blue or white.
Well unless what I purchased was complete crap the bulbs I have are apparently filled with a Xenon gas.
And his "$13" ones are just chinese made white/blue bulbs not HID's

I'm sure though for $75 those HID's would be fantastic quality and well worth installing.

HID = High Intensity Discharge, which uses Xenon gas exclusively.

Halogen = gases of the Halide element family, of which Xenon is one, as well as Argon etc.

The Plus 50 and Crystalview globes etc would have a percentage of Xenon within their halogen mix, to raise the color temperature.

Hope this clarifies things a bit.

']Well unless what I purchased was complete crap the bulbs I have are apparently filled with a Xenon gas.
And his "$13" ones are just chinese made white/blue bulbs not HID's

I'm sure though for $75 those HID's would be fantastic quality and well worth installing.


hmmm that sounds very confusing :-S
i dont really want any trouble from the 5-0 i just wanna light up the streets so i can see confidently.
mine are just that bit too dull that im not 100% happy :(
would it be worth just getting fog lights to help light up the ground, then maybe fitting those 'blue' ones from super cheap?

HID's are Xenon's dude - Check it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlamp#HID_.28xenon.29_light_sources

What you are thinking of is the blue bulbs, they are just hallogens with a blue coating to make them appear blue or white.
No, I am thinking of xenon filled bulbs...just like I said. Which is by the sounds what the OP is talking about....just like I said. Either that or one of the philips type bulbs. Im sure HID use xenon gas too but they are different.

hmmm that sounds very confusing :-S
i dont really want any trouble from the 5-0 i just wanna light up the streets so i can see confidently.
mine are just that bit too dull that im not 100% happy :(
would it be worth just getting fog lights to help light up the ground, then maybe fitting those 'blue' ones from super cheap?
For $24 or whatever it was I put in those Calibre +50's
Defiantly more light over standard, still yellow, But I wasn't fussed, as long as it lit up more.
Osram's range of globes are realy good and well worth the money. There is a UK site you can get them from. PM Boozer about them.
You can still get more out of your standard bulb's without spending a fortune.
100/90's are a bit of screwing around But I'm sure in exec headlamps would be fine (with upgraded wiring off relays)

No, I am thinking of xenon filled bulbs...just like I said. Which is by the sounds what the OP is talking about....just like I said. Either that or one of the philips type bulbs. Im sure HID use xenon gas too but they are different.


hmm i might try to find these philips ones..
idk just $80 for globes sounds very expensive lol.
ill see what the local places have (super cheap,autobarn and such) but yeah :)
always wanted fog lights anyway hehe :) so i might do both ;)

hmm i might try to find these philips ones..
idk just $80 for globes sounds very expensive lol.
ill see what the local places have (super cheap,autobarn and such) but yeah :)
always wanted fog lights anyway hehe :) so i might do both ;)
You spelt "Division" wrong in your sig BTW too:P
Autobarn will carry philips, Supercheap will carry Calibre, so two ends of the scale there, personally, whack the Calibre's in for under $30< they have been proven to be one of the best bulbs in that price category.
unfortunately if you want substantially more light it will cost you alot.

haha ill change that ! lol
thats the ranga way tho, spelling everything wrong lol :)

i will PM Boozer and ask, thanks
Awesome, i will head down to Super cheap tomorrow and see if mine have Calibre's in stock :) hehe
thanks for that, i appreciate your knowledge on it all :) it always helps hehe

The best "+" style globe on the market at the moment is the Philips Xtreme +80%,they overdrive the filament due to the use of exotic gasses etc which allows more light with no more current draw,it also burns whiter than standard halogens,they are uncoated also which is a big plus (bar a shiny cap on the top),thes are my pick of the crop,and i have tested narva,hella,osram and more,but in the +50,the calibres seem good value

steve

The best "+" style globe on the market at the moment is the Philips Xtreme +80%,they overdrive the filament due to the use of exotic gasses etc which allows more light with no more current draw,it also burns whiter than standard halogens,they are uncoated also which is a big plus (bar a shiny cap on the top),thes are my pick of the crop,and i have tested narva,hella,osram and more,but in the +50,the calibres seem good value

steve


awesome :) thanks for that.
Do you have to upgrade any cables or anything? people were saying you have to if you buy some types of globes :(

The best "+" style globe on the market at the moment is the Philips Xtreme +80%,they overdrive the filament due to the use of exotic gasses etc which allows more light with no more current draw,it also burns whiter than standard halogens,they are uncoated also which is a big plus (bar a shiny cap on the top),thes are my pick of the crop,and i have tested narva,hella,osram and more,but in the +50,the calibres seem good value

steve
Are they UV protected? If not it will damage the lenses...

Are they UV protected? If not it will damage the lenses...
Pretty sure most if not all standard halogens these days are UV cut.

']Pretty sure most if not all standard halogens these days are UV cut.

The cheap chinese ones arent, gotta watch out for the ebay ones....

Are they UV protected? If not it will damage the lenses...

Of course,its Philips we are talking about! ;),only Ho-chi-min special etc are non uv cut these days!,no, you do not need to upgrade the wiring etc as the only draw the standard amps and produce the same heat,but having said that,most factory cars these days run terribly thin wires and globes needs every volt they can get to produce max lumens,so i always recommend a relay setup if chasing more light to negate voltage drop in the circuit (5% voltage drop causes 20% loss of lumens in halogen globes),so it well worth it IMO

steve

Of course,its Philips we are talking about! ;),only Ho-chi-min special etc are non uv cut these days!,no, you do not need to upgrade the wiring etc as the only draw the standard amps and produce the same heat,but having said that,most factory cars these days run terribly thin wires and globes needs every volt they can get to produce max lumens,so i always recommend a relay setup if chasing more light to negate voltage drop in the circuit (5% voltage drop causes 20% loss of lumens in halogen globes),so it well worth it IMO

steve



How do you create a relay setup? lol im a fair noob when it comes to cars lol

It's most likely your "$13" ones aren't actually HID's, HID's require an external ballast to run, they usually cost $80+, cheapest I've seen is $75.

Do you have these attached: ?

http://www.eatools.com/%7Eluke/gpthunderhid-new/gpthunder-hid-ballast.jpg

If not, its most likely you just have white bulbs, which usually arent UV protected and will cause your headlights to heat up to the point where they stain, become cloudy, or in case of glass lenses - burn or crack.

I would recommend not waiting...

yes dude, they are HID's 2 kits.. 35w 6000k... bought a kit for the foggies H3, and a kit for the parra's H7... if you read my post it was $13 + 50 post.. in reality i dare say it was more like the other way around.. and just an attempt to get ppl to look at the item and not the postage lol.. that was what each kit cost me after coversion.. mind you as i mentioned this was some time ago.. when our dollar was quite good and the US was starting to feel the pinch about a year or so before bush left..

recently i bought a kit for the high beam.. these are 55w H1's.. yet to fit them but i dare say i could land a plane with them.. even just 35w hid's are bright.. 55w are just obscene!

there is a pic of the H3 and H1 kit... total cost to me was $126AU for the 2 kits 'back in the day' i paid $89 for the H1's recently..

How do you create a relay setup? lol im a fair noob when it comes to cars lol

you pay a auto electrican,or do some DIY,Basically what a relay does is simply use the original light switch as a low current switch for the relay,so it saves the contacts in it etc from wear,and it gets fed with a heavy (usually 6mm) cable direct from the battery to reduce voltage drop,it also has a earth terminal and a outtput as well on this relay,so all you are doing is creating the shortest path for the power to get to your globes instaed of going into the cabin,then back to the lights etc,which causes volatge drop cos of the distance and small factory wiring

Steve

you pay a auto electrican,or do some DIY,Basically what a relay does is simply use the original light switch as a low current switch for the relay,so it saves the contacts in it etc from wear,and it gets fed with a heavy (usually 6mm) cable direct from the battery to reduce voltage drop,it also has a earth terminal and a outtput as well on this relay,so all you are doing is creating the shortest path for the power to get to your globes instaed of going into the cabin,then back to the lights etc,which causes volatge drop cos of the distance and small factory wiring

Steve


ahhhh okayy :) that sounds alright.
Ill speak to a mate who is quite car smart and could prob save me alot of money :) hehe. Thanks for your input, you described that very well and i understood :) hehe.

ahhhh okayy :) that sounds alright.
Ill speak to a mate who is quite car smart and could prob save me alot of money :) hehe. Thanks for your input, you described that very well and i understood :) hehe.

Using a relay also gives you a chance to use a thicker wire, decreasing voltage drop even more.

Using a relay also gives you a chance to use a thicker wire, decreasing voltage drop even more.
Um, that's what steevo said, Thanks for telling us again though:bowrofl: