Front & rears, anyone know?

Or just fronts - straight bolt in?

Front & rears, anyone know?
we can find out. ive got my standard seats still. next meet i could bring the rears and try them?

do it man, I wanna find this out too lol

are the 380 seats really nice or something?

we can find out. ive got my standard seats still. next meet i could bring the rears and try them?

SSSSMOOOOOCH.

yeah im really interested in this as well. i wanna know if they fit!!
if they do just dont tell the wreckers they will jack the prices up like they did for the 380 brakes. Hahaha

Mits being Mits noting would surprise

Would be good to find out, fronts would have the best chance, the rears I would not be surprised as they still have the stupid ski port thing in the back

are the 380 seats really nice or something?

Yes, they are very comfortable and supportive.

if this works leather 380 seats will go in asap!!!!

Would be good to find out, fronts would have the best chance, the rears I would not be surprised as they still have the stupid ski port thing in the back

I've used my skiport many times :P

380 seats look nice, wouldn't mind a set in my car.

i always thought that the front bolts lined up fine, but one of the rears where just out of alignment so required mod/drilling to make them fitl? i may / prolly am thinking about something else tho!

if so they do fit, im getting me some too!! *watches thread with interest*

what would it take to put the memory seats from a 380 into a magna i wonder?

Won't you have the minor problem of the side airbags? Isn't it illegal to fit seats with side airbags in "non-side airbag" cars?

Won't you have the minor problem of the side airbags? Isn't it illegal to fit seats with side airbags in "non-side airbag" cars?

I've got side air-bags.

Won't you have the minor problem of the side airbags? Isn't it illegal to fit seats with side airbags in "non-side airbag" cars?

i believe its ok to put side airbag equiped seats into a car that didnt have them, but illegal to go the other way (as you are removing a safety device)

just out of curiosity - of somewhat relation to this thread (side airbags into cars without them from factory) can they be removed? surely they can?
if removed without detonation, then i couldnt see any issues at all with putting 380 seats into say a TE magna

please correct me if im wrong :)

So you do. (didn't bother looking to see that you had a TL)

Would the clips fit though? Would the SRS ECU accept the new bags?

Might be an idea to try and determine whether the 380s SRS ECU has the same number as the TL SRS ECU.

Can't see why not Doddski.
Good point Dave. aahhemm.....TW thanks.

So you do. (didn't bother looking to see that you had a TL)

Would the clips fit though? Would the SRS ECU accept the new bags?

Might be an idea to try and determine whether the 380s SRS ECU has the same number as the TL SRS ECU.



the fronts bolt straight in and plug straight in no problems. mate of mine has done it. the only prob is the elec seat goes backward instead of forwards and forwards instead of backwards. the bags were not a problem.

Front & rears, anyone know?

Al
I've seen it done for the front seats at least, not sure on the rears....Speak to Daniel about his mate Ernie, hes already done it....However when I spoke with Ernie, he did mention there was a bit of fiddling to get them in...

the fronts bolt straight in and plug straight in no problems. mate of has done it. the only prob is the elec seat goes backward instead of forwards and forwards instead of backwards. the bags were not a problem.
YESSSSSSSS thats awesome, 380 VRX leather seats in a KL, mmmmmm.
Best start saving:D

Cheers, chaps.

Brilliant, I'd totally go front seats, they HAVE to be better than the TJ's.

even the SERII sports had better seats than the Ser I.

:( mine's a series 1. How were the series 2 seats different?

some fat **** had my car before me... so my drivers seat is ****ed... how close is the grey leather from a 380 to the 3rd gen?? OR.. does anyone want to get rid of thier electric dirvers seat (i can put my leather onto it..) if they are doing this conversion ??

So has this been done yet zero? Or when are you trying it?

So has this been done yet zero? Or when are you trying it?

tomorrow week at our fortnightly meet mate! I'll post feed-back.

any chance they would go into a 2nd gen? hmmm 380 seats in my ts

any chance they would go into a 2nd gen? hmmm 380 seats in my ts

If the fronts bolt to a 3rd gen they will, 3rd gen seats fit a 2nd gen.

If the fronts bolt to a 3rd gen they will, 3rd gen seats fit a 2nd gen.

still drooling fromt he thought of 380 seats in my ts from last night:nutkick: ( post that emote cause its damn cool ) when oh when will i hear if it will work

anyone know when we can expect to hear back on this?

anyone know when we can expect to hear back on this?
Could be a couple hours mate, they were gonna try at the meet tonight. Which I missed. :doubt:

Could be a couple hours mate, they were gonna try at the meet tonight. Which I missed. :doubt:

... waits eagerly ! :facejump:

we tested the 380 rear seats in a TL/W? fit pretty well. as a quote from someone "97% fit"
i think the outside bolts to the back rest need new holes drilled. other than that i think they fit.
the ppl that actually put them in tonight will comment more.

we tested the 380 rear seats in a TL/W? fit pretty well. as a quote from someone "97% fit"
i think the outside bolts to the back rest need new holes drilled. other than that i think they fit.
the ppl that actually put them in tonight will comment more.

Yep, as above,a bit of adapting of the wire type mounts which should be easy as they're very close to being the same.
thanks Dan.

yipeeeeeee :booty:

awesome! something else to add to my to-do list... lol

Yep, as above,a bit of adapting of the wire type mounts which should be easy as they're very close to being the same.
thanks Dan.


no probs. yep just a little modification and theyll bolt in. looked good in your car to.

I hate all you guys who can find leather seats for your cars, i want leather for my wagon but no seats are interchageable for them:(

So the rear seats are pretty much a close fit.... and the fronts are a definite fit??

From a quick read i think yeah the fronts fit and rears need an easy modification

From a quick read i think yeah the fronts fit and rears need an easy modification

Sounds like a plan, now all we need to find is those rare 380 prototype wagons and steal the rear seat! Although I have a bad feeling these rare wagons would look similar to the P76 wagon.

well guys I got a pair of 380 seats today, just tried fitting them then... now for the problems...

Rears

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/aannese/P290409_19b.jpg

The rears did kinda fit in, and can I just say are a ****load more comfortable! There are a couple small issues, although I can live with them.

1) The backrest doesn't clip onto the little hooks that the original seat does
2) The backrest sits a little higher than the original, so when looking in through the rear windscreen you see this;
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/aannese/P290409_1946.jpg
3) All except one of the little wire bracket things at the bottom of the backrest dont line up with the holes to bolt it in, however that one that does line up enough is the centre one and the bit you sit on holds the backrest in anyway.
4)The backrest is a tad too wide, so when you close the doors, the armrest on the door skin pushes on the seat cushion a little bite (not enough to cause problems closing the door or anything...)
5) You see this when you open the door...
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/aannese/P290409_194503.jpg

Fronts

Well the fronts didn't fit too well at all. The 380 seats are a lot thinner than my magna seats, and only two of the holes on the rails lined up with the existing holes/threads. I tried the passenger seat, so the front RHS hole lined up, and so did the rear LHS.

Although the rear RHS hole on the rails didn't line up, there's another little slit that's cut out which does line up with the existing hole, so I could probably drill this out to make it work, but i'm not sure how safe that would be. See this pic;
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/aannese/P290409_2003.jpg

The front hole on the LHS rail is the main problem, as in the pic below, it's a far wack out due to the seat being so much thinner. Any suggestions?

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k21/aannese/P290409_2004.jpg

Al
I've seen it done for the front seats at least, not sure on the rears....Speak to Daniel about his mate Ernie, hes already done it....However when I spoke with Ernie, he did mention there was a bit of fiddling to get them in...

Annese,
I said this was going to be the case, get in touch with Ernie, hes already got them to fit....speak with Dan (380) to get in touch with him...

Dan, maybe Ernie can make the next meet and we can get a good look at his car, and take pics etc of what he did....

ouch well i might have to take some measurements and make some spacers and joiners up at work

ok talked to eirny today. he used his original tw rails and bolted the 380 seats to it. he did have to do some slight modifications to the rails though. if your pateint he will get rego for the tw (as its been off the road for some time its only done 30k km) and bring it to a meet and show you what he did.

ok talked to eirny today. he used his original tw rails and bolted the 380 seats to it. he did have to do some slight modifications to the rails though. if your pateint he will get rego for the tw (as its been off the road for some time its only done 30k km) and bring it to a meet and show you what he did.

yeah i thought thats what he would have done, and annese do ur rear seats fit in all ok cos i cant get them to fit properly ????????

ok talked to eirny today. he used his original tw rails and bolted the 380 seats to it. he did have to do some slight modifications to the rails though. if your pateint he will get rego for the tw (as its been off the road for some time its only done 30k km) and bring it to a meet and show you what he did.

Just remember that the TL/TW seat rails bolt up to the floor slightly differently to the TE-TJ models.

wow........despite your problems....they look great.....any more.....???????????

good thing you are sorting it out for those who may do this later...

Just remember that the TL/TW seat rails bolt up to the floor slightly differently to the TE-TJ models.

but are TE-TJ rails different to TL-TW so what im sayin is can i put the 380 seat rails into my old TH ones

but are TE-TJ rails different to TL-TW so what im sayin is can i put the 380 seat rails into my old TH ones

You may be able to all depends on the seat frame bolt holes....all i can say is theres no way id wanna be sitting on dodgy modded stock seat rails just because the "new" seat that is fitted is comfortable.

if done properly should be no problems.

if done properly should be no problems.

If is a big word, lots of people will just dodgy it to "make" them fit and then whinge if it all turns to poo in a crash or a vehicle inspection, so still not legal unless engineered and if u have a crash..... well it could ended up bad but i guess that is up to the individual but ya wont see me doing it

Still not legal unless engineered and if u have a crash..... well it could ended up bad but i guess that is up to the individual but ya wont see me doing it

true but as you say up to the individual. i personally would look at it, if modification was needed do it properly.

true but as you say up to the individual. i personally would look at it, if modification was needed do it properly.

Problem is alot of people on here: A) wouldnt do it properly and B) dont have the $$$ to get it done properly.

yeah i thought thats what he would have done, and annese do ur rear seats fit in all ok cos i cant get them to fit properly ????????

They do squeeze in, you have to remove some little plastic bits to get the backrest in and then refit them, i'll get some daylight photos tomorrow. It's a battle to push the seat base far back enough for it to clip in but after much swearing I got it clipped in and it's pretty damn tight so it isnt gunna go anywhere. Also I think it would be possible to make up a couple custom clips for the backrest to make sure it's nice and secure.

Like I said the front seats are the main issue, I did think of maybe somehow fitting the 380 seats onto my old rails but I started taking my passenger seat apart to see if it was possible and decided that i'd leave that for another day so i've just got all the stock seats back in at the moment.

I'll have another look tomorrow and see how I go, and Jason I won't be fitting them unless I can make them just as secure as the stock seats, I know how important it'd be in a crash to have the seats secured properly...

Ok an easy solution to the front not fitting properly.

Custom seat rails - its done plenty of times in old cars trying to fit modern seats.

Pricey, at (from memory) $300 for one seat rail or so. However, its ADR complied at the end - and its safe.

theres always Blackmans :woot:

What/who is Blackmans?

the 380 has a slightly bigger interior doesnt it? and thus the seats are possibly bigger (evidenced in the pokey out bits.) so you few that have put them in your third gens any noticable difference in (rear) legroom?
***may or may not be trying to dissuade all the nice 380 leather being taken by the magna hordes... never know mine might need replacing at some point:P***

Ok an easy solution to the front not fitting properly.

Custom seat rails - its done plenty of times in old cars trying to fit modern seats.

Pricey, at (from memory) $300 for one seat rail or so. However, its ADR complied at the end - and its safe.

For $600 I would say that's well and truly worth the peace of mind and safety aspect. How much do a set of seats set you back?

Well the drivers seat in my poor TH is flat and flat, remember for years I was doing courier work in her jumping in and out all day so the seat copped a hiding. This 380 idea might be worth looking into then.