Hey all,

Just a question, is it possible to put heavy duty springs in a wagon and lower it too? If i decide to buy a wagon, I want to put 17s on it and lower it. I would be towing a box trailer too I would probably need hd springs too.

Is it possible?

Thanks

I imagine if it was possible, you would be looking at springs that are not only lower, but also much stiffer.

That would have to be the MOSt uncomfortable ride possible.

Depends how big the trailer and load is, i tow a box trailer with 3 motorbikes occasionally and my car is lowered and i have no problems with it at all. Maybe if the trailer is huge and packing lots of weight it could become a problem.

its a box trailer maybe weights 500kgs plus laden. Reason im asking is because, the car looks way better if you have rims and lower it. It looks ok with rims but needs to be lowered for my liking. I dont tow everyday, but the car would have stuff in the back mostly

My car's lowered on King Lows, and I've towed box trailers a couple of times. The back end obviously sits down a little, but it doesn't affect practicality or ride quality.

If you were concerned about it, you could always get a custom-made spring with a stiffer spring rate.

I think you need to work out do you want a car that can pull the trailer or a Car for looks.

I doubt a Magna Wagon can do both.

Well only compromise is having 17s with hd springs. The wagons look great lowered. If I get this car it will be for reliability over anything. Im sick of being at the mechanics everyday

sorry to hijack, but does lowering a car compromise comfort? i want to lower the wagon but I want the ride to be comfortable.. whats the best way of achieving this? i.e. tyre pressure, amount of lowering, tyres, shocks, all that stuff...

be aware i am a car noob :)

sorry to hijack, but does lowering a car compromise comfort? i want to lower the wagon but I want the ride to be comfortable.. whats the best way of achieving this? i.e. tyre pressure, amount of lowering, tyres, shocks, all that stuff...

Lowering will almost always result in some sort of loss of comfort. Aftermarket lowered springs are just about always stiffer than the factory ones they replace. A set of King Lows is around 30% stiffer than factory springs. The flipside of this is that your springs will sag less with a heavy load, you have less chances of hitting the bump stops on rough roads, and you get an improvement in handling too.

You can really feel the extra stiffness of the springs when going over speedbumps and driveways. However, in day to day driving, the difference is less pronounced. I installed KYB shocks when I lowered, which are better than the Monroes that Magnas come with standard. I have found that while I pick up more imperfections with the stiffer springs, the better quality shocks means that you don't notice the bigger bumps as much.

In fact, I prefer how my car rides after lowering than when it was stock. It's on the firm side, but very compliant -I definitely wouldn't call it 'stiff'. Even my old man, who is as anal as anything about ride quality, reckons my Magna rides pretty nicely. I've driven in brand new stock standard cars (such as a VY SS Commodore and a 2008 base model Subaru Liberty) which rode rougher than mine.


The amount of lowering doesn't always correspond to ride comfort. As far as I'm aware, the stiffest ready-made spring for Magnas is the King Low SP, which is a 30mm drop. The Lows - a 45mm drop - are actually a tad softer. Lovells springs are supposed to be softer altogether. Tyre pressure affects ride comfort, but you get that regardless of what suspension setup you run. Most members here run tyre pressure in the high 30psi bracket to improve handling and wear. Tyres will make a bit of a difference - my dad says my tyres have less 'thump' to them compared to the Bridgestones on his SS - but it's not worth worrying about.

sorry to hijack, but does lowering a car compromise comfort? i want to lower the wagon but I want the ride to be comfortable.. whats the best way of achieving this? i.e. tyre pressure, amount of lowering, tyres, shocks, all that stuff...

be aware i am a car noob :)

Generally the lower the spring, the harder the spring, if you want a comfortable ride, I'd recommend Lovell Lows (The highest between Lovells/Kings Lows/Superlows) and some decent shocks, then rims no larger then 17" with around 38psi tyre pressure.